It took 45 minutes, 6 police officers, and 5 office staff to field a FOIA request.
The police wanted to solicit a disorderly conduct charge because he swore and talked back to them after the clerk invocked his mom.
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how many helpful cops does it take to get a signed copy of a FOIA request?
I know some people will give this auditor a hard time about professionalism but the female clerk mentioned something about the auditors mother. The disrespect and unprofessionalism by the clerk was uncalled for and the give what you give approach is what this auditor did. Some people do like this style while some do not.
If you give an inch they take a mile. This guy shows the power of knowing your rights. He completely mentally disarmed about 6 different police officers in a 20 minute video. People get the same respect they give and that clerk is rude as hell.
I don’t understand why so many people in the public think this guy isn’t trying to protect their rights? People will say “ oh he’s just trying to be trouble” when in reality if the public workers treated the way they do everyone without a camera nothing would have happened but paying getting his copy and leaving. Why does a camera mean he doesn’t get served or cops called on him?
these cops were just there to help this guy 🤣🤣🤣 kinda like when i paid $197 jaywalking fine in pennies
Another example of a “under resourced” dept that can spare 6 officers to stand and do nothing, for no legitimate reason
4:53 Cops will always interrupt, or turn their attention elsewhere whenever a member of the public tries to educate them on case law…
many ignorant cops in one place who ask questions and do not listen to so they just keep harassing this law abiding citizen
I love this guy. It is so crazy that people want to work for the public, but hate the public. She needs to be fired and the officers re-educated on the law and Constitution. They called the cops over hurt feelings and the idiot cops showed up and tried to enforce the “feelings”.
“don’t you want us to help you?”
“no”
that question backfired on that cop lmaooo
Not to be as dramatic as John Filax but any time a cop says “okay” they know the game is over and all they can do is save face by escalating.
Funny how all these incidents start from people being in their feelings.
As a retired police officer, with over 20 years of service. This video is 100% correct. I was constantly, battling my “alleged” superiors (they hated me), over what the law states vs. their personal opinion. So many times, I was told/ordered… “Do as I say, not as I do” Ad-nauseum! That’s why I retired early. I worked for three separate departments and they were “ALL” the same! The only thing I learned I was going to continue to do, what was right (follow the law). Not what was popular by a bunch of ignorant/god complex supervisors. Supervisors who were the first to put an officer under the bus to avoid taking responsibility for their own actions! That’s known as… A FACT! I speak from over 20 years of dealing with that CRAP!!!
the only way this will stop is if it is MANDATORY that all cops state the actual law that is being broken when first contacted. Then if your recording you have the so called law on record.On traffic stops the first thing out of the officers mouth should be why he or she pulled you over. If not stated then the driver should be let go.Also needs a law that cops cannot touch your vehicle at any time during the stop. Always seemed to me of planting evidence on personal property.
When cops start losing the argument they go straight to open ended questions in the hopes that if they do it long enough you will eventually lose patience and THEN they get you for disorderly, etc.
he is well known to the police there. he has the right to get the video anonymously and thats why he asked for it anonymously , not because he need to stay anonymous. the video he asked for is from a police station where police attacked him without he doing anything wrong. (they ambushed him also on the streets, crazy ambush without warning) thats why it took so long to get this video, the police fucked up big time there and he has all on video. the whole town conspires against this man, the city attorney, the police ,… i went in rabbit hole on his channel the other day and thats one crazy ride all his intereactions with public servants on this matter. i can say you this man has absolutely no fear and this story will be a good one, because he documents every step and he does his law suit and complain every time and he will win in the end-
I cant believe it takes that many people for one simple request.
This is what happens when people take the attitude of: “we talk; you listen”. If instead one or two of these employees had spent a little more energy listening then they would not take an hour to produce a copy of a piece of paper.
They tactically surrounded you. You should’ve questioned them on their hostility. There was no need for that.
I would strongly advise the auditor to always bring a friend, and have that friend be completely silent while recording
“Give what you get” is one of the first principles that kids learn in kindergarten. As they mature, some kids learn that they can better accomplish their goals by not playing or joining in that game.
He should have at least let the cops know the clerk was talking about his mother, and so he was returning that vibe.
How many cops does it take to screw with a photographer? The world may never know
The best part is you had six police officers ask you if you needed help and not one of them helped you.
This is why there is a disconnect between the police and the public.Respect is earned not given and government has never earned respect
I love how that woman sitting down looked at him the entire time like he’s trash. Spectacle!
How many cops does it take to copy a piece of paper,…we still don’t know
I’m not sure what annoys me more, the blatant waste of time, the lecturing of officers, or the $40 cost for a public record to hold government accountable… time wasted and paywalls to accountability… this is why government is failing…
He is lucky he wasn’t arrested for not letting them help him 🤣
Qualified immunity needs abolished. That’s why cops just laugh &/or cuff you when threatened w a lawsuit. Bc the taxpayers are the only ones punished for bad cop behavior!
This guy has a mouth. I’m surprised that they didn’t try to recruit him on that alone.
If it wasn’t for the video’s you wouldn’t believe how these public servants act toward we the people ( citizens ) they were rule, disrespectful and out right ignorant acting. And for her to bring up your mother’s name. Their treatment of you was outrageous, and should be fired, who do they think they are. Pure tyrants and 6 police officer’s for what? Keep videoing and exposing, you have my vote….Stay safe
The worst part of interactions like this is that the private citizen is citing laws that are actually being broken by public servants and the public servants are citing bogus charges against the citizen.
Perfect example of how police escalate in every situation. Great video exposing public employees that think it’s their building & they actually think that WE the people have to serve & cater to them.
I think he handled it very well the only thing I don’t understand is he said he filed the foia without his name because he wanted to remain anonymous and then he used either a credit or debit card that makes no sense
I have to honestly say I don’t know if I could control my temper with these officers are trying to create a situation that would allow them to throw me out!
11:00 FREE HELP?! Are they all volunteers today? There is probably more than $500,000 worth of LEOS just standing around harassing a citizen!
For all the help they claimed to want to provide, they just couldn’t get over their egos. Their disdain for the public and transparency was on full display.
There are 27 cameras back there. Why is mine the issue. “LOL”
Imo they act like this because they are hoping that the person will lose their patients to justify them making a hands on arrest? The person behind the counter is the one the Cops should of been talking to and observing as they were the one that started to make unjustified personal comments. Very good auditor who keeps his cool and explains things very well.
Overstaffed police department that’s for sure
A great example of how there isn’t any Law Enforcement, but Feelings Policing and Revenue Generating by today’s undereducated overpaid Governmental Welfare Recipients.
“That’s disorderly conduct sir..”
🤦🤦🤦🤦 They always try and pull that BS because most people don’t know their rights and will roll over for them.
One thing these videos show is the overstaffing of all these police forces. They are all sitting around doing nothing until they see an opportunity to hassle a citizen. Budgets should be slashed.
To charge a person with disorderly conduct there has to be a threat of imminent danger.
In NC there’s a law thst says if ya cuss a cop you can be charged with assault on a cop.
In this case, the cop could ask the man to stop cussing, but not demand it. Or call it disorderly conduct. That’s suppression of free speech. So is the law in NC.
Bring up my Momma & we gon tangle.“They’re back there working on your request.” WTH? Do they have 6 monks back there copying the 10 Commandments for the last 45 minutes?
Look at the tyrannt who keeps covering his body cam!
He missed a few opportunites to say “You work here AND want to help me? Go get my stamped and dated copy of my paperwork… Why aren’t you moving to help me?”
This auditor went way too far with the verbal abuse. This is obviously all about getting clicks.
Will they ever get tired of pulling out old faithful “ disorderly conduct “ I doubt it it will be used to intimidate and threaten till the end of time.
Courts have ruled multiple officer s is a show of force and may constitute a detention
This auditor could learn a few things about professionalism by watching Battousai for a while.
I kinda dont like it when auditors get deliberately rude. I mean… I get it…. My mother is dead so if she said that to me I’d get a bit upset so…. I get it.I know “she started it” but we really shouldn’t be propping up auditors who act like this. He CLEARLY heard something he could take and run with to ratchet up the confrontation and went 10x beyond what her little transgression reasonably called for, let’s be real. The overly-confrontational type of auditors make it about themselves instead of the big picture and even when they’re TECHNICALLY in the right, end up harming their own cause acting like jack-offs. Yes, the police sucked, so this is just immaturity on BOTH sides.
They actually believe they help people out 🤡
Seems like harrassment just to get public service
Why did he pay by card? They can now find out who he is!
>> Because they already know him from previous battles they lost.You have to go at these lions like a lion. They are no longer public servants they are public predators. Reason and logic is not a flower that grows in any of their Gardens. They prey on the weak stand your ground be adamant about exercising your constitutional rights. Keywords are lawsuit and ending their qualified immunity. You made it clear you know you’re constitutional rights and the consequences that they will incur for violating your constitutional rights. FTP
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Police Decides that Cleaning Woman has an “Attitude”
Thank you for featuring my video. The chief actually went to the building I was at and tried to get me in trouble the next day, luckily my bosses are the best ever and are backing me completely. I’ve gotten a bunch of hate from the people in my town saying I was in the wrong. Thanks!
He is the perfect example of why people don’t trust the police.
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- I can see why the cop is so emotional being in his third trimester and all.
- The only one being disrespectful here is the foul mouthed cop. He’s in the wrong line of work. He has serious psychological issues. He will cost the city a fortune some day when he flips out on someone without a camera.
- He just can’t admit he’s wrong, like most cops.
- Having an attitude about standing up for your rights is not against the law. It actually is standing up for every single one of us. The police, like this example, is what makes most of us no longer willing to back them up like before. The people of her town who think it’s okay to harass a working woman, Shame on them! We need to limit the power we have bestowed to this profession. We need to get rid of Qualified Immunity, it protects the wrong type of police more often than not.
- This cop is truly scary. Be careful, I can’t imagine what he does when he knows he’s not on video. Egomaniac tyrant is right…
- This officer lied about being able to get ID. Every time an officer lies about the law we should legally be allowed to disregard everything that comes after, and no arrest be legal. How can we be expected to trust an officer once they’ve lied?
- He just can’t let it go. NO de-escalation here. MASSIVE ego problem with no LAW training or knoledge
- “Dont be an ass”
-while being an ass
- The minute she made a small apology, it generated LARGER bullying and intimidation tactics from him.
- “Anyone can wear a janitorial shirt.”
Anyone can wear a police uniform these days it seems
- This tyrant did all that talking about “doing his job”, but walked away. He just wanted to be a bully.
- He didn’t even try to get her ID after she flat-out stated that she wasn’t handing it over. From then on, she was detained for his pleasure while he lectured her for going in public while in “possession of an attitude”, and nothing else.
- I can see his descalation training was wasted on him.
- If she gave him her full name, and her ID matched the name, how would that prove to him she was there to clean?
- With less of an attitude the LEO actually means “I want you to lick my boots and answer every question with Yes Sir”
- Ask this tyrant, “Is attitude a misdemeanor or a felony?”
- I did a shot every time this guy said “that’s fantastic” and now I’m hammered.
- This cop cried to his chief. Who then tried to get her fired
- This situation is too common.
If the cop would observe the “suspect” for a few minutes he would see work being done and a complete absence of criminal activity. At that point there would be no reason to approach her.
- This guy is has been picked on until he graduated grade 8 and became a cop. Now imagine if that was a black male, that guy would have had back up in 1 minute.
- She hurt his feelings. I think he’s going to call his mom and cry.
- “What words do you wish me to say to appease your fragile ego so you can leave?”
- I hope he gets disciplined, because a cop that says “I can act however I want” is a threat to society.
- soooo all I heard here was the officer wanted to uphold his emotions, not the law… because he wasn’t citing law, he was citing attitude.
- Could he drop a few more f bombs while telling someone else not to have an attitude?
My question is what does giving her name/id matter? What does he have a magic list of names that works in the building along with a list of names/employees of outside contractors like the janitorial staff? And or a list of the hours employees for that building?
- “Next time be courteous” says officer Butterbean F’ing away at a woman. The reason he sat there for that time, was because he was checking the plates. Officer we’re not as stupid as you look!
- Cops have a huge ego and when you challenge them they have a hissy fit. I would have reminded him that I’m a tax payer and I pay his wages.
- He really blows it when he says if she’s gonna have an attitude, she’s gonna have a problem … oooof.
- Yes, I realise that her camera saved her from physical abuse. That cop look like a controller and abuser of his office.
- Had she been a woman of color the whole conversation would’ve been all the way different. I’m so glad the young lady held her ground and was allowed to go do her job.
- Love your channel brother.
Keep em coming.
I am Canadian. But i love cop watch from around the world.
Every nation needs to hold their government employees to account.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance!
Keep being vigilant brother!
- If she wants to have an attitude that’s not against the law. It’s amazing how police officers try to tell you how to feel and act. They hate pushback and they hate to be challenged. That is what he’s mad about.
- Boy, this guy just has to have the last word
- Cracks me up when cops say “but I don’t know who you are” does this mean he knows everyone that he comes into contact with? I’ll bet he doesn’t remember all the names and ages and addresses of all he’s run ID on, unless of course he demands ID just to remember. Stop using that reason to get ID, It’s lame.
- He’s was asking for an ID even though it wasn’t a stop. He never put on the lights. How does she know if that was a cop.
- ‘Lose the attitude’ must be one of their little power phrases they teach them in goon school. It’s definitely a cop thing. You know, when they’re trying to talk down to you or act like they’re somebody’s daddy. Ugh…
Now why would ANYBODY have an attitude with the police?? Hmm…
- Eight minute lecture on being nice while he’s asking for something he’s not entitled to.
- Imagine if she didn’t know her rights.
Do you believe the cop would have let her go about her business.
- He absolutely cannot act as he wants in “his official capacity”…. this guy’s not just a tyrant cop but I xan assume he acts like this at home with his wife also..
- Why does he feel like he can tell her how to talk he’s using his position of power to bully her
- If this is the way they treat their own people just imagine how they treat women and children in a war zone.
- She should get his bodycam he said some more shit on his way back to the car.
- How many times did he say “I don’t know who you are.” It seems like that is the only thing he finds out of place.
- I know, you know, and the officer knows, that shining that light in your face is rude.
Let’s start there. Then, get the hell off of our property! “I Gotta Call” is NOT probable cause!
- A funny side idea would be for her to run to the door, go in and lock him out. Just funny, not recommending it.
- The old ‘I don’t know who you are’ game.
Did you notice after she apologized fat boy escalated.
- Another cop with hurt feelings. I had this happen to me , put my key in the door and left the cop standing outside I was done talking.
- Now that I know who you work for!
I can get one of those vests anywhere.
What an ass, complete reversal of what he initially said and his idea of a dignified retreat.
Bah, this cop has an attitude and knew he would get a complaint made against him hence the backdown.
- Even if she is rude to him he has no right to be rude back to her when acting in his professional capacity. The fact he lets his emotions control his demeanour shows he is unfit to hold his position
- Wow. This cop reeks of entitlement.
- Love his courteous behavior saying F@#K,A@# etc. while giving advice on courtesy. Such a power struggle for no reason! Gees, she’s got to go clean it’s not an easy job..been there done that!
Do your thing girl, a nice clean office is much appreciated!
- Police need to be held accountable. I dealt with this as a young man all the time. They do the same tactics all the time. Now they are realizing these old school German tactics don’t work anymore. God I love it..
- The police are breaking the (Constitutional) law if they take your ID and run it. This is considered “detainment” and without probable cause, the police are breaking the law. If the police are caught out with no probable cause, they will LIE about it saying they thought they smelled pot, or they thought they saw a gun, or they saw you exchanging an envelope with someone (who was Black and disappeared into the night) and they believed you had just made a controlled substance purchase, etc.. We the people must know the law and respectfully but firmly push back against the growing lawlessness of the police across this whole country, (and straight up into the SCOTUS)
- “That’s fine, Now that I know you work here” Well I told you I worked here earlier and showed you the keys and my uniform And you said well I can go pick up a shirt like that from the store. So out of curiosity how do you know that I work here now? What it looks like is you realize you fucked up. Because there’s no new evidence that can verify my story from what I told you the first time. You’re clearly just fishing
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