That cop trying to get ID for cigarette ash is EXACTLY the type of cop who would plant drugs to get a bust like Zach Wester. Same personality, character, & superiority complex. I wonder what all his bodycams show over the years? He’s itching to get that town sued into oblivion.
the fact cops can treat us like this shows how far our “rights” have fallen.
I’m an officer in Cincinnati, I’ve never seen anything so petty. I’m sure these officers can spend their time more wisely than detaining a man for simply dropping an ash.
And this is another perfect example as to why I dont trust a word that comes out of a cops mouth. And i never will until they change the laws making it a crime for ANY law enforcement to lie just as its a crime for a civilian to lie.
The fact that the LT admitted that they train their officers to split hairs to hopefully lead to a bigger violation is absolutely cringe.
….can kinda lead to other things…” That’s called being pre-textual (before-the written word/law)…using a small infraction in hopes of obtaining info for a larger offense.
The problem here is,…when that younger police officer one day becomes Sargent he will abuse his powers and get I.D or whatever else he wants, he is a bully. The ego’s and feeling of power over the peoples goes to their heads. Then they wonder why is their such a disconnect between the citizens and police officers, the clan protects and covers for their own.
Wow imagine how many people’s rights these police walk all over
Thin blue line on his belt buckle tells us ALL we need to know about these officers and their department. The only reason the officer didn’t push the issue is because he KNEW he was on the losing side. The LT telling him “he’s a good officer” is telling us ALL to believe HIS words and NOT our own eyes and ears. This video was SUCH a black eye on this entire department. Even the officer making the BS claim on the ashes being “littering” couldn’t keep a straight face as he spewed his bs. I’m surprised they didn’t charge him with “attempted arson”. The biggest blunder here imo is the higher ranking officer choosing to defend such outrageously disguisting behavior. The minute he did that, he owned the disgraceful abhorrent behavior of the first cop. He made it clear that they are in it to protect each other no matter how ridiculous their behavior and abuses of power are.
I’m watching this from the other side of the world (I’m northern European) and I really can’t believe this stuff, it’s insane what you good Americans have to put up with from your police, it’s absolutely absurd and a big shout out to this channel for exposing this kind of ridiculousness!
The cop can’t even really look him in the eye. He knows he’s being shady and disingenuous.
I came around the end of a pavilion and looked up and there was a police officer standing there and he said to me I don’t think you’re supposed to be in here doing this! I said to him I have a permit and I actually have more right to be here doing this than you do Smoking a cigarette and standing right in front of a sign that says “Young lungs at play no smoking permitted in this park $50 fine for any violators”. he became visibly agitated and started running his mouth to me about me telling a police officer what’s right and what’s not right and then he wanted to see my ID and then blah blah blah. he then flipped his cigarette onto the ground got in his car and drove off in a hurry and he was not a happy man. I refuse to show my ID which made him even matter. I didn’t do anything wrong and I wasn’t going to show him my ID no matter how hard he pressed. And I wasn’t being anti-police I was being pro citizen.
12:35 Being overzealous and vindictive is not indicative being a “good officer”. It’s indicative of someone who is prone to abuse his authority.
Now this is just one of the many reasons why so many people hate cops. This entire incident was totally unnecessary and the cop was on a power trip over pettiest bs that I have ever seen
I had a friend – a Marine Corp Veteran – that was driving home from a friend’s house in his pickup truck. He was honorably discharged and by now was rocking a ZZ Top look.
He brought a bottle of expensive liquor to his friend’s house and they drank a little bit of it. My friend left and didn’t want to leave the almost full bottle at his friend’s house and since he didn’t have a trunk he put the almost full bottle on the floor behind his seat – he didn’t want it to break in the bed of the truck. It was a short drive & an expensive bottle.
He got pulled over by a cop less than 1 mile from home for some BS reason. He was sober but got a ticket for having an opened bottle in his car (not open exactly – the seal was broke.)
The cop made him park his truck at the police station that was nearby and find another way home. My friend complied to avoid a confrontation and started to walk home when the cop called him back over and tried to hand him a knife, saying “You forgot your knife.” My friend was shocked and knew the cop was trying to plant evidence on him. He backed away and refused to accept the knife.
This behavior by the criminal cop is NOT how a democracy functions. Cops like that and in this video are undermining democracy and the Rule of Law all because they are ignorant, insecure twats on a power trip.
If criminal cops were removed from the force quickly and permanently we would get more ethical, honest police officers. They are the minority due to this sick culture. Thank God for the good cops!!
So basically pretty much, these 2 cops main number 1 goal is to hopefully be able to make arrests, and the easiest and fastest way of achieving that is to get i.d.’s and run the names. So if they run 90 names a day, that would average out to X many arrests. Wow!
For once, a reasonable man in charge of upholding the law when he stopped a situation from turning into something much worse. I’m also impressed how much he was open to you guys training some of their officers, that’s stellar! Someone who I would absolutely want to be in charge of my local force!
I would honestly have to ask for a FOIA request on any convictions related to cigarette ashes and littering. The cop claims he had cited people “several times” including pulling people over while driving and ashing out the window. It that is true then there will be court records that state the violations as well as the specifics.
The last officer on the scene was really the best one in the bunch. He was willing to listen and learn as well as reciprocate the “lack” of knowledge that many officer’s have. Really glad that officer stayed behind to talk to you guys.
I hope that any cops on this site read this: I used to be a hardcore supporter of law enforcement. Now, I’ve seen enough of this selective enforcement BS and outright abuse of citizens’ rights to view them as the enemy until they individually prove to me that they aren’t.
What kind of career satisfaction does this guy even get from trying to enforce this?
“I arrested someone for driving well over the drink limit”
“I intervened to stop an armed robbery”
“Well I and two other well paid officers argued for twenty minutes with some guy over a tiny speck of cigarette ash on an empty street”
Wounder if this guy would be just as passionate and aggressive if he was called to a school shooting, or would he hide, scroll his phone and pee his pants far from the action like the rest of those cowards.
This cop is everything that’s wrong with police today. I love what cops do and I believe there are many more good than bad out there. They need more training on the constitution and perhaps they need to spend more time on real crimes, or better yet, some public assistance to those in need. So much potential to do good but…
This officer is petty af. He’s on a fishing expedition to feed his ego.
Context is everything. Flicking ash in a wooded area during a drought is one thing. Having ash fall on concrete in the middle of a town with nothing that could possibly ignited from it is another. This guy is ridiculous, and coincidentally 1 town over from where I grew up. I’ll remember his face the next time I visit family. Easy to remember, as he exudes di ckness.
I saw the title and bust out laughing!, A sheriff in Houston Texas did that same thing to me ; told me to get rid of the cigarette? And I released it on the ground. Of course he wrote me a $250 littering ticket, the day of court? I parked on the side of the court house where the cops gather to smoke and laugh,I.videoed them.flickering cigarette butts everywhere; long story short??; DISMISSED.
My mate had something similar once before but he was pulled over for flicking ash out of his car window. Unbelievably petty. My mate asked him to show the evidence, then suddenly there was a speeding violation. This was way before cameras were common place. One stupid cop and my trust has gone forever for watching them make it up on the spot.
And he says he’s done the same job for seven years, apparently he hasn’t learned anything including the law.
That older cop was actually good. Rare to see older cops like that who understand all your rights
“It might seem light but it can lead to other bigger things”?? So ashing a cigarette in public leads to serious crime?
I would like to see what a federal court thinks about this violation of a man’s civil rights. You do not have to show ID for smoking a cigarette. Ashes falling off a cigarette is not disorderly conduct, obstruction or littering.
I know a lot of LEO’s and do you know how many of them I trust??? 2. That’s right 2 out of over 2 dozen. That LT is one who actually seems to believe in the constitution and it was surprising how he said the auditors are doing a service to the public and mentioned the auditors doing training to help teach cops about constitutional rights. I would say that he is actually a good cop which is a true rarity.
I’ve now seen the most trifling attempt to ID someone in all history. Cigarette ashes on a concrete sidewalk constitute both littering AND a fire hazard? Somebody tell the prison industrial complex to get busy building many millions more cell blocks to house all the repeat offenders they’ll soon be incarcerating.
Cigarette ash is a violation of the law…a law which I have just admitted that I don’t know… but it’s a violation…! If you don’t know a law, you CANNOT enforce it…by just making it up as you go along…!! 🧐🤬
The thin blue line belt buckle speaks volumes of the kind of officer this guy is.
The cops in Illinois confiscated the cremated ashes of my friend’s dead wife claiming they were some kind of drugs. They sent them in to the drug lab and found out what they were and then disposed of them. The guy couldn’t even get his dead wife’s ashes back after they dropped all charges against him. I would have sued their asses all the way to Hell.
I hope these guys stay in touch with the LT. I”d love to know if he took them up on their offer. THAT’S the kind of police interaction I actually like to see.
This cop’s hair alone puts his intellectual capacity at question. He verifies that he is not all that bright by using such a lame ploy to coerce this guy’s ID out of him. The guy saw through it immediately.
Pathetic abuse of authority. The retaliation is real, folks. This “pretext” of a friendly conversation turning into a baseless, unwarranted Terry Stop is ridiculous, and likely against that department’s own policy…
The fact that they can say some of this shit with a straight face, and then continually double-down…… I just can’t comprehend the mindset it takes to act like this, AND think you’re doing nothing wrong. It’s like self-hypnosis or something.
I think the fact that he admitted he’s pulled over multiple cars over the 7 years he’s been a cop suggests we should FOIA request all his traffic stops and get a group lawsuit together for what I’m positive will be multiple violations of rights.
I would absolutely refuse. Take me to jail I would love for you to explain to a judge that you arrested me for ash falling on the ground. I think that video in itself would be hilarious.
This is a great video of how hard it is for some people to just say, shit I was wrong. He’s trying so hard to justify lol.
That supervisor was one of the best officers I have seen. I would 100% support him.
I think everyone should ask the following question at the onset of contact with ANY LEO…. “Officer, will you please qualify the nature of this contact…is this consensual, am I being detained, or am I under arrest?” The LEO’s answer, if any, should determine how the citizen interacts with the LEO as encouraged by WTPU and countless other 1AAs. -VGQ
If I was a tax payer of that city I would be livid! It amazes me that even the cop was told by is LT he fucked up he still couldn’t let his ego go. He has to have the last word saying it was basically a warning. Did the LT spit out some bs that smoking a cigarette leads to busting people with drugs? 🤦♂️ I feel sorry for the next grandma smoking a cigarette. She might be slinging dope. 🤦♂️ I got secondhand embarrassment just from watching this.
The LT says at 12:39 it has to do with stud interdiction and that can lead to other bigger things like drugs. So they use cigarette ash out a car window as a justifiable reason to pull a car over and search it for drugs. This is total bs as ash out a car window is not illegal, only if driver throws the cigarette butt out the window.
Would have loved to have heard the conversation the two cops had in the cop car.
This lieutenant was pretty cool at deescalating this situation as the other cop was in my opinion ready to arrest this guy. As he stated plainly he had used it bother as probable cause to stop motorist..
I’m always overjoyed when they pull this and the person complies only to find out the person is an FBI agent.
Whether or not he had the legal authority to demand this man identify really doesn’t matter it just shows what kind of person this officer is by pulling a dirty rotten stunt like that. Pathetic. I hope this man learned his lesson though and realizes no police officer is your friend and there is no reason to talk to them at all because if you do they will only use what you do and say against you.
I would ask the cop something like, “is that a strategy of ur department, to do whatever u can possible to get as many i.d.’s as u can to run the names in hopes to be able to make as many warrant arrests possible?” Just to hear him flat out lie and say some practiced lines.
It seams like harassment to me ! When Cops esculate a situation when there is no need they are not doing that city any good
This cop is the true definition of a tyrant. He needs to turn in his badge now.
“it might seem real light but it kind of can lead to other bigger things”… Oh okay, got it. So you want to investigate people in order to find out which crimes they have already probably commited instead of having probable cause.
The police treat the public as the enemy. This is ridculous. Not to mention a complete waste of time.
This happened to me. A traffic stop, my brother was driving and the cop asked me for ID. I had my seat belt on and I told the PA officer that he had no right to ask me anything. They tried asking my brother but he wasn’t telling. After 30 minutes of them harassing me I lit a cigarette and when I flicked the ash out the window, bam! Cop showed me on the registration that it was littering. They got me for a probation violation I knew I had. Off to jail
Why does this cop claim “I’m recording, too” then continually cover his body cam lens with his left hand while interacting with the auditor? And what a pedantic argument about whether the ash is created by something man made?
I’m in my mid-60s and have always been a support the police/law and order kinda guy. The behavior of these officers disgusts me, as does their appearance – tattoos and hairstyles.
Someone please charge and fine that officer for littering, the dead skin cells that are falling off of him and onto our streets is just insane out of control 😆
I had a cop try this on me years ago. He pulled me over and tryed to tell me not to smoke my cigarette. I told him he was free to get away from my window if he didnt like the smoke. He made me get out of the car and stand at the back. I knew he was trying to get me to flick my cigarette but to harass me further. So I ashed into my own hand the whole cigarette then ate the butt after putting it out on the ashes in my hand. He literately said he was going to ticket me if I had flicked the butt.
People: I wish the cops arrested rapists and murderers and solved violent crimes. This cop: best I can do is harass you for ash.
You can tell that cop at the end has a good understanding why people do the audits that they do. The world needs more cops like him and less cops like that young one.
I saw this on Facebook. This cop was looking for a reason to try and identify this man and the statement about the ash on the concrete sidewalk was just about the most asinine idiotic reason to try and identify someone. Police are really out of control with their perceived authority. No laws were broken so go away. Stop fishing
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the most fragile thing on a planet is a cop’s ego
that’s called making a mountain out of a mole hill….literally
That’s what happens when you have a “for profit’ penal system.
“He’s a good cop. He’s the field training officer.” He spends his time trying to manipulate laws for his own purposes. Being an old geek, that would be called “lawful evil” in DnD terms. He uses the law to do evil things, like try to violate 4th Amendment rights by lying about littering.
The cop said he didn’t know the law then tries to enforce what he doesn’t know. The cops that harass citizens over silly stuff like this and even admit to not knowing the law need to get a ticket. They also should be required to take and pass tests covering the laws before being hired. They should also be required to be tested periodically during employment.
I generally support police, they do a hard usually thankless job, but they should absolutely be versed in the laws they are empowered to enforce. If you want to know if you’re dealing with a good/bad cop at a glance look no further than the Blue Line gang insignia. That’s an inconspicuous indicator that they stand with other police before they’ll stand with citizens and laws they are sworn to serve.
If I was a luetenant, I would have dismissed this young cop from working the rest of the day. Period… His arrogance and ignorance is very typical of an ego driven twit just wanting to start trouble while working on the city time clock.
I hope no one ever goes to this town and spends a cent with jerks like this that should be out on the road patrolling and protecting . They give good police officers a bad name . Shame on you and the town you have sworn to protect I served 25 years in the service to protect our rights and these guys should be FIRED
Best advice when a cop approaches you is to simply tell the cop the name of your attorney and give the name of said attorney and tel lthem if they have any questions to contact your attorney and walk off. If they physically stop you at that point it’s assault and kidnapping. Defend yourself using any means possible and this shit will stop.
Many things scare me in this video in the sense that the young man is training other officers how to split the law to find bad people or bad things that gets very dangerous to corruption. The FTO might be trying to train the other officers however I believe he’s also training the officers to possibly break laws and step on people’s civil rights. RLEO
“You we’re hiding in the bushes” at what point was he hiding in the bushes lol!He wanted to arrest him so bad “when you’re going to jail it is gonna be real funny”“What’s crazy is he knows he’s wrong and you know he’s wrong and you’re still going on”. Yep. The thin blue line.I wish we could see them driving away. The UNCG code of conduct is online. It took me 1 minute to search for identification. Nowhere does it say you have to produce ID except in a hearing.
>> I agree when the cop started saying keep your hands out your pockets off camera who knows what would of happened. He was walking backwards to his car..lol ..WTF what a !!COWARDThe crazy thing about some of these cops is they have gotten away with things like this in the past. If it wasnt on camera he would have been arrested and the story would have been different. you see how he stated you were in the bushes, what “THESE” people do at times. Not all, not all, but a lot of them. It’s in them
>> Now that Officer did violate that students 4th Amendment Rights. The Sgt. Knew her Officer was wrong…and she still tried to cover for him. Comply…make it home alive… then contact an attorney. That’s the smartest approach.At the school I attended COC did indeed list showing your student I.D. to security and cops. Nevertheless, there’s a lot of people walking back and forth, so how is he unusual or suspicious? Besides, why sets up a camera on a main road if you intends to commit a crime?
I really hate it when a cop says he will “ allow “ someone to do something already legally allowed.
It’s like the police are actually trained to escalate situations.
I like the way that both cops abandoned the guy with the weed in order to attack the guy filming them. Shows which activity they consider more threatening. And they wonder why people hate them.
“We will allow you to record”. This says exactly how the criminal thinks about the citizens he serves
“You don’t walk up behind me!!”
So if he had walked up to him from the front would it have been ok? How do police not realize that flying off the handle at completely innocuous shit is exactly what makes people dislike them?
Ive been a cop for 11 years i have my masters degree in legal studies. I firmly believe every cop should have a degree whether its a associates bachelor’s or masters in law studies. So many uniformed cops out hereYou should have a webpage that updates about all these cases when they get resolvedSo escalating a situation with a taser is a good way to de-escalate. Noted.The cop starting the confrontation when the guy was still at least 50 feet away. That’s an awfully big bubble of control“You can film me from over there in that parking lot” Ah yes, the privately owned parking lot, that he probably has no right to loiter in. LolSo is this cop just arresting everybody who is walking within 30 feet of him?I’ve actually been pulled over by that cop. He is incredibly unprofessional and confrontational even for something as minor as a burnt out headlight.Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is watching. What’s it called when you do the wrong thing while being recorded?He wasn’t actually scared. He’s an insecure little boy who wanted to use his authority to control someone who made him angry. If he was actually scared, we don’t need cowards like this in law enforcement. This is the type of person who is going to end up discharging a weapon on a person who poses no threat to him.What I would like to see is an audit in which two auditors participate: the first auditor simply walks by, either not directly recording, or very inconspicuously recording, and the second auditor walks by in the exact same manner as the first but is very conspicuously recording. I believe that type of audit would really show the motives behind officers making contact with an auditor that is recording.The worst bit is that deputy is like one of those kids that just says “get away from me” while walking towards them.>> Or texts “stop talking to me” when no one texted them lol. He’s INSANE.>> I love how cops say, “I’m asking you,” when they’re really commanding you. Explains their poor communication skills and why woman might not want to date them. 🤷🏻♀️Imagine thinking that a random dude standing over ten feet away filming is literally preventing the officer from doing his jobIf he was not recording, this cop would not even pay attention to himAllowing police to define what is “hindering” leads to arbitrary definitions and capricious enforcement. In this case you “can’t walk up behind us” could apply to someone just minding their own business, but obviously this is contempt of cop. The real issue, though, is that police paranoia is institutionalized, and they are allowed to take anything short of enthusiastic compliance as a form of threat.“You’re going to jail.” If you wanna illegally arrest someone, sure. Can’t wait to see Harford county get sued. Their police are ridiculous.Fastest escalation I’ve ever seen, I’m honestly impressed!We will “allow you” to exercise your constitutional right! C’mon man, that’s some BS!6:15 Sheriff: “We will allow you to video.” I didn’t realise that citizens had to seek permission from police before performing constitutionally-protected activities. And how generous of them to “allow” it.I work with an ex cop, he said they are trained to “make excuses” and guide the narrative in the direction they want it to go.>> Of course, when an officer is asking you what seem to be inane questions, they are just trying to steer the conversation into you saying something “suspicious” or incriminating. If an officer is investigating, they want you to talk as much as possible, nothing they say can be used against them, everything you say can be used against you.@ Drew. Yep, but when they come across a citizen who knows their rights and challenges the cop, that’s when they start feeling threatened cos their egos are being dented. This cop was unnecessarily aggressive and abusing his power.They are trained to see is they can lead you into an arrest. Thats why they fish for anything. Shake… Weed… A smell…. A dog… Random search. All those things can “lead” you into BSYeah, this cop made excuses. His statement about how he got no problem with people filiming in principle doesn’t hold up in light of how he acted overall.I love that his narrative is that he was being approached from behind but you can clearly see in the video he watches him walk the entire time lol. They are real time story tellers!literally every cop on here: “you’re making me angry and taking up my time even though I’m the one who approached you in the first place and did the confrontation so I’m going to arrest you“ TBH at this point I don’t think cops can just say “Well we drop a invisible bubble and if you get in it you get arrested”. Like if they really wanna do that then they can make a physical bubble by putting traffic cones or something around the area and then go to court and make it illegal for pedestrians to go in that area unless instructed. I don’t know why this is so fucking hard to do. It’s like cops just want to arrest people for the fun of it.Idk, threatening to electrocute someone seems like a “use of force” to meHe doesn’t want someone walking up behind him, well, he stopped the auditor from walking to the front of the traffic stop, where he would’ve been in their view. What about the vehicles driving behind him? Does that bother him, too?It’s interesting how the officer knew the exact path of Mr. Reyes and at the same time he managed to approach him from behind. :))The officer repeatedly asked him if he could help him and when he approaches the officer to answer the officer’s question the officer starts yelling to back up and points a weapon at the citizen.I’ve been watching ATA for a long time and it was today that I saw a video in my Home town of Harford County and I can attest to just how terrible the officers employed by the HCS are at best sub par and use intimidation tactics on citizens all the time as well as harassment and other dishonest tactics and the HCS definitely need some reformCop asks him “can I help you” twice and then arrests the guy for walking up to him. That’s virtually an open invitation for the guy to approach the cop.“You can film us from the front” Even though he was yelling for him to back up essentially preventing that from being possible…Love when cops use new terms to lie. “Sir, you popped our bubble and now you’re under arrest”.“I believe in your rights”… “but I believe they don’t mean shit, unless I decide they do.”It’s amazing how quickly and aggressively the cop escalated an otherwise peaceful situation.My question for that sheriff is, would the same deputy have reacted in the same way if the photographer had instead been a young mother pushing her baby in a stroller? I somehow think not.Thanks, as always, for your excellent commentary. The deputy has anger management issues…he was so aggressive towards Mr Reyes, and created a problem where none existed. The taser threat was unjustified. It is odd that LEO units investigate themselves, rather than having a neutral outside investigative organization. Imagine if hospitals, etc were run in this manner.So if the dude wasn’t holding a phone recording this and just walked past would the cops have acted in the same manner and accused him of hindering?Whenever cops say that they ALLOW citizens that haven’t broken the law to do something, you know they’re about to get themselves in trouble. They think they are the boss of the public rather than the public being their boss. This cop went out of his way, stopped doing his job and hindered himself.I’ve watched tons of your videos. I believe this is one of your poorest assessments. Mr. Reyes did not identify himself until much later on. He walked behind a single deputy at night. Mr. Reyes was confrontational. Mr. Reyes was ignorant of the law. The deputy escalated the situation as well and was not well-informed on the law either. Both should get D- for just piss poor judgment. Mr. Reyes should plead out. He will lose the court case while probably making some fair points on his ‘constitutional rights’ . Good luck!
“Soliciting without a permit”
“Whatever you’re soliciting…”
“you don’t even know what I’m doing?”
“what are you soliciting?”
- They wanted to arrest him and take his kids to protective so the parents would have a case with CPS , any thing to destroy a family for no reason
I think it’s fair to say that some of these folks are simply trying to evoke a response from the police in order to bait them into a confrontation (though I don’t think it’s accurate that they’re “known for getting into people’s faces”…the police are coming up to them, not the other way around). I also think it’s fair to say that officers sometimes embarrass themselves and their departments in the way that they respond. I guess my question would be…if someone is engaging in a legal activity, such as recording what they can see from a public sidewalk, why would you talk to them at all? Someone engaging in this kind of activity knows that what they’re doing is legal, and is well aware of their rights…the whole reason they’re doing it is to see if YOU’RE aware of their rights too. An officer most certainly can walk up to them and initiate a conversation, but if they’re rebuffed, and the person doesn’t want to talk to them, that should be the end of it. No pressing the issue, no demanding ID, no threat of arrest. The Commissioner that they talked to mentioned potential lawsuits, settlements, and getting officers fired. If any of those things happen, is that the auditor’s fault? No! I believe there is room for improvement on both sides of the equation. As a citizen, I should be mindful of the law, and respectful of those whose job it is to enforce it. Those whose job it is to enforce the law have a duty to uphold the public trust. Bothering people who aren’t breaking the law is not the way to do this. I’d even venture to say that once these auditors see that they’re not going to get a reaction from the police, they’ll go away. Until or unless that happens, officers will continue to become YouTube stars, and cities will continue to pay out large settlements.The cops always initiate the contact. Just leave law abiding citizens alone. The video never points out that the cop had no right to touch a person, unless they are breaking the law.
All the cops have to do is obey the law. Same goes for civilians. If they did that there would be no problems.The law enforcement community brought this on themselves. can you imagine how boring it would be to watch police officers behaving correctly ?I find it amazing how these auditors are PROVING that cops are EXTREMELY IGNORANT to the law and what’s legal.If they have done nothing unlawful, leave them be, don’t react and they will leave you alone. The police in these videos are often ignorant of the law or just belligerent.‘How to handle 1st Amendment Auditors?’ There is nothing to ‘handle’, when someone isn’t breaking the law they don’t have to talk to police or identify, so run along and finish mopping the floor at the station cops. This is part of the problem, that police think they have to ‘find a way’ to control every single person they see.When I first started watching these videos, I took issue with what the auditors were doing and then as I watched more and educated myself, I started to understand their motives. There are some auditors who take to the streets with a clear agenda and bias against the police and do everything they can to provoke them so I tend to not watch them but there are others who truly seem to be standing up for their rights and are more than happy to find officers that respect what they are doing as opposed to hoping to find bad officers. My favorite auditor is Amagansett Press, for example. It still baffles me that police academies aren’t teaching basic constitutional law and that departments aren’t educating their officers about basic first amendment rights. A guy with a camera on a public sidewalk isn’t a threat and since we don’t live in Russia, he isn’t required to produce “papers” because you demanded them.Its through the first amendment auditors that i have come to realise the importance of the constitution and how it can work for the little guy. I don’t know why they’re being presented as aggressors, yet its usually those in authority that are the aggressors.These auditors are protected everyone’s rights. You might not like them but that is what they are doing.As time passes we don’t automatically get more and more rights. Out rights erode away. That’s why as a former law enforcement officer I support audits.When you abuse and disrespect the citizens so long this is what you get and they’ll like how the tables turned a little bit. Now they have to be held accountable for their actions which could be recorded back in the days.4:30 officer asks “If they’re truly the media, then aren’t they subject to the same rules as what apply to you?” This is the crux of why the mainstream media sides with the cops on this one. They don’t like “amateurs” stealing their viewers. They feeeeel that it’s an insult to THEIR profession. The “rules” that the officer is referring to are not laws. They are company policies. If the reporter doesn’t follow those rules, he will get fired, not arrested.
I love the way the news reporter says that the auditors are known for getting in people’s faces. She must not watch many videos does she not see how the people walk right up to their cameras and get into the auditor’s faces. I do agree that some auditors push some buttons on some people but that still doesn’t give people the right to violate their first amendment rights.The whole purpose of the Constitution is to protect our rights. How many news reporters push their camera and microphones right up into people’s faces to get their story. Double standard. Because they work for a major news outlet they think they are better than everyday normal citizens who go out and report what they see going on in America and reporting corruption that most news reporters don’t have the where for all to do on their own. They are paid by a news agency and are only allowed to report on what they feel is news worthy. They have no free will of their own. Unless it’s a live video all their work is edited so as not to compromise or offend whoever or whatever they are reporting on.My question. Where’s the cops when a tv crew with cameras are at the same place the auditor was at? Why are “they” not concerned? Isn’t this suspicious activity (as they say)? Where’s the ID check? So this is the cops warning other cops to be on your best behavior when a camera is out? If cops have nothing to hide why attempt to make a CONSTITUTIONALLY protected act villainous?The reporter is right in front of the military installation. Wonder if they called the cops on him?The cops need to smarten up and be able to tell the difference between someone that is a real security risk and someone who is just doing an audit. As soon as they realize they’re dealing with one of these auditors they need to just say “thank you, carry-on citizen.”Auditors like him have NOT broken the law in any way. When a cop violates the rights of auditors it is their own actions that has earned their firings and lawsuits. The under sherriff was the law breaker and the same law applies to him. Putting hands on someone without cause is Not legal. The badge doesnt earn them extra rights.
“get a settlement from the city and possibly get the officer terminated”.
A good auditor does not leave to provoke a reaction. The reaction is left entirely up to the officer.
This news report is a perfect example of how biased news is and how it does not report facts anymore, it reports feelings
It’s unfortunate that both the reporters and even the auditor himself misrepresented the entire auditing community. There are bad auditors that intentionally provoke and unnecessarily escalate encounters, but the overall goal is to never to do that–usually the police will do that themselves out of ignorance of the law.
This news agency should be ashamed of such a biased report. As a news agency, you would think they would be on the side of free speech and press 🤦🏼♂️I love how the news guy ends the video by getting a shot of himself standing in front of what appears to be a military installation. As if his 1st Amendment right to do so is somehow different than anyone else’s. The hypocrisy is staggering.It’s funny how they left out that if the cops were just calm, professionals following the law, citizen’s rights, and proper police policy, NONE of this would even be an issue. Yep, they sure left that out of the story.If the officers aren’t doing anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about.When the government becomes transparent and cops stop abusing free citizens. We won’t need auditors, until then auditors keep up the good work.I love how they make it seem like recording a video on a sidewalk is the scariest thing, while also recording a video on the sidewalk. Oh cause your camera is bigger? Or you have a news jacket on? How is that any different?WXYZ should be embarrassed by this report.“They tricked me into doing something wrong by checking if we were doing something wrong”Why are these ‘trained professionals” so easily, and so often, provoked by ordinary citizens with a camera? Why do these ‘trained professionals’ so easily, and so often, ‘take the bait’ despite extensive training, re-training and cross training? Why are these ‘trained professionals’ either ignorant of, or purposely ignore, the very laws which they have sworn to protect? Why do these ‘trained professionals’ first escalate, and then retaliate, over such simple constitutionally protected activities?love how they say “1st amendment rights” so sarcastically. I was on the side of thinking these guys were frauds at first. after watching a lot, i am so glad they are doing what they do. These “officials” are not the little victims they try to act like.“It is all his first amendment right”, said with a nod and a wink. You can just see the disdain the reporter has for someone other than the “news” exercising their rights.I love how the reporter feels as entitled and as above the law as government officials do. They think they are better than an on the street indie journalist running their own business and creating an audience.“File a law suit. They’re gonna get a settlement from a city. They’re possibly going to get the officer terminated” So they’re holding people responsible for their illegal activities! Got it!Law enforcement uses “bait tactics” all the time……but don’t like it when they think it’s being used on them. SMH“Known for getting in people’s faces.” Not sure I’ve ever seen an auditor get in anyone’s face. I’ve seen people get in auditors’ faces.When you’ve witnessed enough injustice perpetrated by the employees that are paid by your tax dollars, and when you see your tax dollars frivolously passed out, like candy, to those that have no accountability for their actions, then there should be no surprise when people start testing the system for its effectiveness. If the auditors are exposing flaws in the system, then pointing an accusatory finger at them is nothing more than an attempt to justify a broken system.Love that they interviewed the sheriff that literally assaulted the auditor!! Did he go to jail? No…… trying to make auditors into Villians and literally only catch cops breaking the law!!If the city is offering a settlement and the officer is losing his job then the cop was was violating rights and breaking laws. Without the auditors would continue with his crooked waysSome of these auditors may appear to be annoying, however they’re willing to reveal how many government agencies throughout this country that are not constitutionally compliant. Keep up the good work! We need more of them.This reports bias is clearly a result of them being out done in holding authority accountable by amateurs.The fact that they have to send a mass email out to government employees telling them to not violate but respect the rights of American citizens shows how messed up the justice system really is.“They are known for getting in people’s faces.” Actually, they are known for being confronted by other people.Love it how the tele-prompter told the reporter to call the audits “verbal attacks” . I KNOW that wasn’t the verbiage she’d use. It was forced upon her.Finally the cops are starting to think about what they are doing4:30 Here’s the thing, they don’t come up and put their hands all over cops, they don’t walk up to cops trying to dominate every encounter. Some of them may, but the majority of them obviously don’t. And so what if they are trying to provoke these cops? if the cops can’t handle their temper around these guys, even when they know they are being filmed, how well do you think they handle that temper with people when their isn’t a camera around?!?! This video being shown with the cop being interviewed does NOT paint him in a good light and it’s a perfect example of why 1st amendment auditors are needed. Oh yeah, talking about the Freedom News Now guy when he said “they beat their wives” or whatever. He was trying to provoke an angry response, because cops are PAID to keep their cool when dealing with people like him. Who cares if they don’t actually beat their wives, I’m sure some of them don’t! Regardless, the police lie to the public all the time trying to provoke the response they want from us. The only difference is if they get the response they want, we end up in prison for a long time whether we’re guilty or not… But that’s ok I suppose.Last cop went hands on as soon as he stepped out of the door. That cop is the reason why we need the auditors.The irony of explaining how the auditor filmed that tank place out front, to only do it in the last segment of the video themselves but with a way bigger camera 😂
John Smyly, a former Boulder Colorado Police officer detains a man, Zayde Atkinson with no RAS. When he refuses to ID the way the cop wants him to, John Smyly escalates the situation. He tries to make his victim sit like a dog, for no reason other than to assert dominance over him. When Zayde Atkinson refuses, Smyly threatens to tase him. When Zayde continues to refuse to be John Smyly’s b****, Smyly brandished a fire arm to try to further intimidate his victim into compliance. The man he tried to bully and intimidate, Zayde Atkinson, NEVER gave in. Smyly was allowed to resign, and is likely working for another department at this time. If you know what department Smyly is working it, please email that information to firstname.lastname@example.org, so I can publicly publish that information, warning potential new victims.
ID Refusal by Boulder Colorado man, Zayde Atkinson results in threats and officer John Smyly brandishing a fire arm.
I remember this video when it first released these cops are just so utterly pathetic it’s disgusting and it really isn’t going to stop until we stand up and physically defend ourselves
Why was he allowed to resign? Should have been stripped of all official credentials. And then jailed for up to ten years.I’ve seen this video maybe six times at this point since it was originally released and the more times I watch it the more absurd it becomes. This video is a perfect example where you could be minding your business not breaking any law and even going out of your way above and beyond to placate a psycho in a costume and still almost become a murder victim on the street by that psycho in a costume.And they wonder why people hate the police.There isn’t any manner you can perform any action in this country that LE can’t twist into something suspicious.They keep asking him to “sit down” as in their eyes that’s him submitting to them and they win their sick mind games.Even the cop apologists think the police are terrorists… They say, if you obey and submit then you will prevent the violence that is otherwise guaranteed.>> Rapist mentality. See what you made me do?When a cop knows he is being unlawful but continues the lie anywayThis cop Escalated that whole situation!What is most scary is that, to become a judge takes between 8/10 years training, it takes between 6/8 years to become a lawyer. But it only takes around 6 months to become a LEO’s. This in itself is just crazy, how can a LEO’s understand law & enforce such law with minimum training is beggars belief. It’s like getting children being in charge to educate adults in how to be an adult. It’s a system that is programed to fail. Crazy world hey.What is most scary is that, to become a judge takes between 8/10 years training, it takes between 6/8 years to become a lawyer. But it only takes around 6 months to become a LEO’s. This in itself is just crazy, how can a LEO’s understand law & enforce such law with minimum training is beggars belief. It’s like getting children being in charge to educate adults in how to be an adult. It’s a system that is programed to fail. Crazy world hey.They should be handing out deadly buckets and ‘garbage picker-uppers’ to officers.“Sorry, you cleaning up trash at is suspicious behavior. We need to treat you like a threat now” – Police 2022Even “if” he was trespassing on private property he was picking up trash on private property… Um that’s a good thing right?!I didn’t realize that he gave him an ID with his name….he still escalated this situation?!What people don’t understand that these type of interactions happen more often then people think. James keep up your good work and fight for liberty and justice and to keep cops in check. 🇺🇸Wow the Ego just doesn’t stop with this cop. I’m proud of how this man handled the unwelcome invasion of government on HIS property. 👍🏼“All you have to do is comply”. Sounds familiar “……once compliance becomes part of the culture” – Boston Mayor Michelle WuOldie but a goodie, Almost certainly got picked up by another departmentThat got my blood boiling. Hats off to this guy for refusing to sit like an obedient dog!This guy was awesome the way he stood up for his rights. Imagine how many people get violated by police because they don’t know their rights or are just afraid. Always film police!!And a half dozen cops with itchy-fingers surround him waiting for an excuse to gun him down, and frightening what law enforcement has evolved to and they wonder why targets are on their backs now.Tasers are a training tool, much like the collar on your puppy… it speaks a universal language of, “do what I say, or you’re gonna get zapped again until you learn”,…. Understandably there are instances when it’s ABSOLUTELY necessary for such activities. “Get on the ground because I said so”, probably isn’t one of those,……
I was just gonna say the same thing! The bootlickers that “just comply” and don’t know there rights are the reason we are in the situation we are now.And just think, this is just “1” instance of this kind of abuse brought to light. Gotta wonder how many events like this end very differently because somebody refuses to comply with an “unlawful” order by a uniformed bully with a badge. This event should have been career ending for psycho shoat!It’s called harassing people just because he wants to prove the point he’s wrongCops remind me of terrible poker players. They bet too big, too early with an extraordinarily weak hand and get pot committed to where they must go all in in with no chance of winning. It’s also hilarious at 18:25 how the cop sneaks up on the bucket and the grabber like it’s actually a dangerous item“We see you out here picking up trash and that’s clearly a sign of a hardened criminal.”I can’t remember how many times I’ve watched this… but each and every time I’m left with a definite fact: This college student is a Psychology Major!!! It’s confirmed each and every time he asks the officer, “and how do you feel about that?”There’s a far more dangerous cop running around Colorado. His name is Chris Dickey and he’s cost taxpayers over $1,000,000 in lawsuits (He and his partner murdered a suicidal veteran having a PTSD episode, he and his partner severely beat a motorist who had a diabetic episode and crashed, he deployed a taser on a protester on public property who didn’t ID) and I believe he’s a deputy in Grand County.100% ego!!! The fact that he can’t let it go even when told to by his supervisor means he WILL KILL SOMEONE one-day. Count on it.They know he’s no threat but they are obsessed with getting him to sit down as they see that as him submitting.I’ve seem this video so many times, I can literally say every word they say in unison. Thing is , even after all those views, all those channels, I STILL find it one of the most telling videos on there right now. It shows broken police policies and behaviors. How they can turn anything Into a weapon, a crime, constitutional violation, and the other cops question nothing. The fact ONLY one officer was fired is Insane. He was the sacrifice, but all the others went with it. If it wasn’t for the bodycam, witnesses, and cameras on the cops, that kid would have been beaten , razed, or even shot. Ridiculous, every one of them should be fired and charged.I’ve already watched this video and a few other similar ones, so I think it’s advisable for people to carry the documentation of their properties or lease contracts under their arm or they risk being arrested for trespassing in their own home. How can there be a trespassing crime without the owner requesting it??????????????????Notice that as soon as the other cops arrive the trash grabber changes from “weapon” to “object”, he knew he was being an absurd liar.Wow that crazy story he tells his manager is insane. Guy it’s all on camera.There was absolutely no reason for this cop to even speak to this guy.Notice how he described the grabbed as “sort of a blunt object”. That’s the games these thugs play.According to the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office, Smyly was hired in January on a two-year term position as a civilian training and development coordinator in the sheriff’s computer support unit. As of 9 22 20 Boulder Daily CameraThese trash grabbers are so common officer tyrant knows exactly what he’s holding.COP= Control Obsessed PsychoPro active policing …? What interaction about this footage was positive? ~ I wonder if this cop still to this day thinks what he did was lawful and if he has any regrets?my favorite part is the jump in logic that not only someone must be trespassing if he thinks they are, but that a trespasser showed up to pick up trash illegally.Accusation before investigation! Guilty before proven innocent! How much training is needed to understand the mistakes in these two statements?“He was sitting around, milling about with a metal thing and banging it on another thing near a no trespassing sign” ..”your partner just confirmed he lives here”.. ” I dont know who he is”. The copsplaining is insane here. “We cant even talk unless you are in the sitting position i commanded you to take, even though this entire encounter is unlawful from the start and I already had confirmation of the info I obtained on unlawful premises”. Further sad was the citizen telling this victim to chill out.The cop could have easily went inside and investigated but it’s easier for them to intimidate someone into a confession. It’s to expensive for most people to afford a lawyer so they plea or confess. The plea or confession also prevents civil action, thus reinforcing the officers actions.Hey isn’t it cute how the state will show up on your property and Surround you and point their guns at you while claiming you are a threat but if you do it to them while being armed only with your first amendment they claim it’s insurgence or disturbing the peaceThis is an insane abuse of power. This cop has probably always “felt threatened” in his life. Should have never been a cop.“This officer was ready to kill me sir” a powerful statement indubitably. 👏That police officer should not have been allowed to resign, he should have been fired and charged for his crimes, but the thin blue line protected him.James don’t forget it’s the “day and age we live in” that’s the cousin to the”you got id”. That shit is highly addictive, hopefully in the future it’ll wipes out every pig and piglet suffering from this addiction.Love this man’s courage to stand up for his rights, every cop on this call should be fired for not insisting that this pig stop this completely illegal detainment also he lied about what he observed right from the get goI’ve seen this one before. This guy was great. He had the guts to back down eight cops with their guns drawn. It’s so important to let cops know their power is limited. They aren’t kings who can do what ever they please.I’ve seen this before and it’s infuriating. This is called, “being within sight of a cop while black“. This cop should do jail time. I counted six cops there surrounding this lawful citizen and not one had the decency to tell that POS ENOUGH. They are all sick and when you are in contact with one, no matter what the situation, your life is in danger. Only dangerous, sick people seek the job of a cop. I won’t change my mind about how unstable cops are until they LEAVE people who are not breaking the law alone. I think I’ll be waiting a long time.I remember watching this video when it first came out. Watching it again pissed me off just as much. Who is this cop who thinks he can go around asking Americans if they belong on any property when there was no 911 call. He’s totally on an ego trip. Guy with a stick was never close enough to him to be justified in shooting him. IdiotI love how the young man vehemently stood up for himself. I hope these officers hear his voice on repeat every time they fuck up. “How do feel? How do feel now? How do feel about that?”i love how he just twisted a lil bit of the details to his encounter with him… was so butt hurt he couldn’t get his DOB and make him sit on the ground like a dogWhy tf would their cameras ever have a mute button? Or right , the game is riggedIn defense of an officer please refer to these Redcoats as Redcoats or other demeaning terms of authoritarian revenue collectors!I wonder how a cop would feel if the person he was confronting gave a call and people start emerging from all round, surround the cop? It is downright creepy how they do this. What is worse is that no-one questions or clarifies the call out.I’ve seen this ….. blatent harassment …. ego driven , the nerve to call the garbage tool a weapon !!! …..“He had a metal object stabbing, I didn’t know if he was damaging something. ….then I noticed it is used to pick up trash ….then he picked up the metal object again “ His lies are SO EASILY detectable! 😣😣😣As much as I appreciate the time and effort and activism…I really can’t watch to many more of these vids without pulling my hair out . Needs to be something done about it other then just an awareness . Before certain entities start getting splattered .That young man is a REAL American, standing up for his rights!!I remember seeing this the day it was originally uploaded.. Boulder and Denver cops still haven’t changed. Shit is sad.I love when a cop says “subject is failing to comply “it almost like cops think citizens are slaves to them..!!!My favorite line is when the victim says that the cop had his gun out and the cop says “it wasn’t even pointed at you” as if that makes it all OKQualified IMPUNITY on display!* According to a news article* “Smyly resigned prior to the conclusion of the disciplinary process, but police indicated the process would have likely resulted in suspension or termination. As part of a settlement with the city, Smyly remained under city employment until February as he exhausted accrued holiday, sick and administrative leave. According to the Boulder County Sheriff’s Office, Smyly was hired in January on a two-year term position as a civilian training and development coordinator in the sheriff’s computer support unit.” Be careful that he is not hired again with the police dept. when this 2 year temp job is finished.You very accurately indicated the Crucible method of policing… They make the citizen try to prove their innocenceAll channels of this type constantly say, “cops dont know the law,” and things like that…. This is not true, cops do know at least the basics. Some just choose to constantly do the wrong thing because they have no consequences.I remember this video. The ego on Smyly was out of control. Zane should have made Smyly hand him his bucket and trash picker upper. The fact that Smyly wouldn’t give the ID back after his supervisor told him to was insane. The fact this egomaniac is in another department and still terrorizing other citizens is scary. Agree 100% cops should not be allowed to mute thier BWC for a certain time before, during an interaction, and a certain point of time after. I can’t remember for sure but I think Zane (the guy harassed by Smyly) did sue. Would be nice if Smyly had to apologize and pay some sort of damage out of his own pocket. This whole interaction was disturbing.I remember this video a long time ago,with over 1 million views…This officer is upset because Mr Atkinson refused to listen to unlawful orderThe victim had 2 weapons, common sense and a brain. Both lethal to today’s cops.When dirty cops are not held accountable. We The people will hold them accountable. One way or anotherThe danger in calling backup for a noncompliant man with a weapon… If he did get hurt or killed as a consequence he’d make excuses and blame the victimImagine telling a dude that is cleaning dirt in front of a building that he is trespassing. Like, do people just go to other peoples property and clean their trash??I never understood why this officer harasses this citizen… we also know had the guy given his name, the officer would have wanted to “pat him down”. What’s worse is once they knew he lived there they should have left right then and there.Apart from the fact that he has no legal obligation to identify, having his name in a database is not a good idea. If he is stopped in the future and his name ran, he will come under greater scrutiny having been checked for a “crime” previously. This can, at the least cost him his time or give them time to find a crime.When I see someone picking up trash at daytime, with earphones on, I immediately think “This guy’s looking to rob the place for sure”.If this is how this thug acts at work just imagine if he has a spouse, kids, or a pet and what they might go through.This is the 3rd or 4th time ive seen this video. Thankfully the citizen wasn’t hurt. It shows so many aspects of poor policing. No crime was reported. No crime committed. Muting of bodycam. Escalation by police officer. Its really quite sad.How can any of the other deputies be taken seriously after this? I would look at them and laugh.I wouldn’t be surprised if the young man switched his major so he could become a civil rights attorney.If I were a cop, which will never happen, and I were one of the policemen that later showed up, I would’ve had the courage to speak up and say, “This is stupid let’s leave this guy alone”, but none of them have the backbone to do so.You should have demanded he surrender his certification as part of the settlement, I guarantee he is still doing this kind of behavior and has already corrupted another department!18:26 Officer Sneaky creeping up on the bucket and claw like it was a Western Brown snake and he was fixin’ to wrangle it. Instead he committed a fourth amendment violation by seizing the man’s property.20:43 If you haven’t figured it out yet Smyly, you have shown that you are a) incompetent, and b) not at all capable of figuring this situation out, and never will.23:19 No, Smyly, you did not “contact him”. There was no touching between you and the man whom you trespassed upon.The officer initial officer tells the sergeant I recognize it’s a device to pick up trash but then a sentence later he says picks up the object because the officer realized he f*** up when he said the guy had a weapon. He just admitted to the sergeant that prior to him making the call for back up he knew that it was a device to pick up trash. No wonder the guy got firedAnyone want to know what a police state looks like? Watch this video again… This confrontation was a “near death” experience.This video is still really frustrating to watch. “I didn’t even point my gun at you sir!” The fuck? Let’s see your reaction when someone brandishes a hand gun!This cop thinks he’s the hero we deserve and without his intervention the city would crumble. James Madison audits just posted a video with officer Velez. Velez has the same hero complex and it’s just a matter of time before he pulls some crazy shit like smylyThe officer says he has a gun in his hand because you’re not listening, I didn’t know guns were hearing devices.THE COP HAD NO BUSINESS ASKING HIM ANYTHING. He gave him the apartment. Number already a long time ago.No this officer didn’t get the privilege of going to a new department, BLM made great changes to policing in America with those billions of dollars they raised. For example, BLM changed who and how settlements we’re paid, who and how cops are investigated, cops that violate rights lose their pension. There’s a whole slew of things BLM changed with all that money and destruction.Anybody ever see how flimsy those grabber things are?If he quit which he did it allows him to still be rehired by another agency or the next city overIf he quit which he did it allows him to still be rehired by another agency or the next city over
Here is the body cam video from my illegal detainment in Pueblo, CO along with the settlement reached.
Settlement – https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByFa…
Policy Redline – https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByFa…
Original Body Cam Video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ0wY…
My Body Cam Video – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgFC0…
My Livestream – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_2ZM…