It remains an open secret that police domestic abuse is a widespread and deeply entrenched problem.
The consequences of police violence are indelible. It impacts communities large and small nationwide. Large because police violence is seen publicly, small because research data suggests a connection between police violence on the job and police domestic violence at home. Indeed, cops and domestic violence have a strong relationship. As Black Lives Matter protests happened last summer, video after video showed law enforcement going after unarmed civilians — shoving, punching, using tear gas, rubber bullets, and in some cases, using live ammunition against civilian populations. What wasn’t seen was what cops do at home.
In Louisville, local businessman and community leader David McAtee was shot and killed by law enforcement at a protest over the killing of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor. Add that to the fact that, so often, police can get away with nearly murder, accountability and justice in the public sphere, and in the private sphere, when police domestic violence happens in the home, doesn’t seem achievable.
There are those who argue that the police can be trusted always to act in the public interest, protecting and serving the innocent. Surely many do, but research into the private lives of cops suggests that that faith in the restraint of police officers on the job is founded at least in part on men who abuse their wives and children. And what percent of cops are domestic abusers is conspicuously quite high.
Though data on police domestic violence is not only notoriously difficult to gather but also skewed by a culture of silence and intimidation, it suggests that police officers in the United States perpetrate acts of domestic violence at roughly 15 times the rate of the general population. Because officers tend to protect their own, domestic victims of violent cops often don’t know where to go. Sometimes they reach out to Alex Roslin, author of Police Wife: The Secret Epidemic of Police Domestic Violence, the American Society of Journalists and Authors-award-winning book that constitutes perhaps the only major work on this subject.
“I get emails that would make your hair crawl,” says Roslin, a Canadian freelance journalist who came to the issue two decades ago after a friend working with survivors of abuse informed him police wives and biker gang spouses constituted the bulk of her patient population, suggesting a hidden epidemic of police domestic abuse.
Indeed, police domestic abuse, Roslin points out, is an open secret. In 1991, sociologist Leonor Johnson presented to the U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, suggesting that 360,000 of the then 900,000 law enforcement officers in the U.S. were likely perpetrating acts of abuse. After a Los Angeles Police Department officer murdered his wife and committed suicide in the late 1990s, a review of domestic abuse allegations brought against officers showed that between 1990 and 1997, 227 alleged cases of domestic violence were brought against police officers, only 91 were sustained and only four resulted in the conviction of criminal charges. Of the four convictions, only one officer was suspended from duty. He was asked to take three weeks off.
For many, cops remain heroes. But the law enforcement culture lionized by reactionaries is also a culture of silence antithetical to the values of most partners and parents. Fatherly spoke to Alex Roslin about the extent of the police domestic violence problem and why it persists.
The numbers in your book are absolutely shocking. In particular, the number 15 is shocking. You support the claim that abuse is roughly 15 times more pervasive within police families than in the general population. Where does that come from?
The major study here was done by a police officer and a sociologist in Tucson, Arizona, working with a collaborator who had studied domestic violence in military families. It wasn’t by the police department officially. That study found that 40 percent of cops reported having participated in domestic violence in the previous year. The researchers questioned spouses and officers separately with anonymous questions and came up with strikingly similar figures.
An FBI advisory board later found that roughly 40 percent of officers who filled out questionnaires in a number of different settings admitted to being physically violent with their spouse in the previous six months. The general population data for self-reported abuse is closer to 4 percent when people are asked to report on the last 12 months.
The numbers are higher for cops who work night shifts.
It’s worth noting that the sample sizes are a bit small and that these are older studies. Given the potential scale of the crisis, it’s bizarre that there wouldn’t be more available numbers.
The 40 percent number is the closest I could figure while trying to do an apple to apple comparison. We know for sure that the rate of domestic violence among cops from the little data we have is ridiculously high. We know that thanks to research done in part by police officers, some of whom suggest that number might be low. So we wind up with cops being around 15 times more likely to engage in domestic violence than members of the general population. [Editor’s Note: The comparison here is based on 1.5 to 4 percent of U.S. and Canadian women reporting domestic violence by a partner and an estimate that 6 to 14 percent of children are abused each year. These numbers vary because data is based largely on incidents and self-reporting.]
We should consider why the data is nonexistent or decades old. Why is no one looking at a massive issue of public interest? I’ve been working on updating my book for a third edition. Doing research I’ve found 40 examples of cops in the United States murdering their spouses. That’s over just three years.
Is there data available on the children of cops? Is there any reason to believe that abuse doesn’t extend beyond partner violence?
Sadly, I’ve seen no data on that, but anecdotally… I’ve heard a lot of stories. It’s not just police partners that face abuse. It’s children. There have been a lot of reports of that and it makes sense.
It’s a broad question, but unavoidable: Why is this happening?
Abuse is an open secret among police officers. Many officers claim that it’s the result of a stressful job. But in my research and in talking to domestic violence researchers, it becomes clear that stress doesn’t really cause abuse. There are lots of stressful jobs. Paramedics and surgeons and firefighters don’t have this kind of problem.
The more honest officers will tell you that policing is a job about control — controlling people and controlling chaotic environments. It attracts people with that mentality and that desire. Not all police officers are the same, but the more authoritarian police officers are the more likely they are to be violent at home.
These men aren’t losing control. They are maintaining control. That’s different.
That’s a disturbing idea because it suggests a strong connection between domestic violence and public violence. Do you see a strong link there?
The reality is that police are being put into places in society where they are supposed to be in control, but we have both movements toward recognizing the rights of more groups — notably women and minorities — and also more inequality than ever. Maintaining control in that environment becomes extremely taxing. My fear is that this is trending the wrong way. When police are protecting this kind of status quo, you’re going to see more domestic violence, not less.
The inequalities of society force us to empower the police. And that empowerment results in the hiring of abusers. Police domestic violence is a mirror held up to our society. Who polices an unequal and violent society?
Are there causes beyond the desire for control? It feels like that impulse would be tempered by the proximity of… law enforcement officers. Is it not?
No. Cops get away with it. Anthony Bouza, a one-time commander in the New York Police Department and former police chief of Minneapolis, said that ‘The Mafia never enforced its code of blood-sworn omerta with the ferocity, efficacy, and enthusiasm the police bring to the Blue Code of Silence.” That’s reflected in the rates at which violence is reported and the degree to which there are consequences.
What happens to partners abused by the police?
In general, these women are terrified. Normally, domestic violence survivors are not in a good place. But these women know the cop has a gun and knows how to commit violence without leaving a mark and they say, “Everyone will think you’re crazy.” And she can’t necessarily go to a shelter because he knows where they are.
Some of these women contact me. I’m a freelance journalist in Canada. I’m happy to do what I can to help, but why is there no one else?
You’re a father. What do you tell your kids about the police? How do you talk to them about law enforcement given what you know and given your work?
My daughters know what I do. They know what I’m writing about. My wife has two uncles who are retired officers. We live in a small town and a former police officer is now the mayor and lives down the street. Police officers are humans. At the same time, my kids know that there is a darker side to policing.
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Pulled Over For Driving Too Safely
“Most Texans don’t go 60 they go 80”. So he’s getting punished for not going over the speed limit!?!? This is a joke
“Isn’t 60 safer than 70” “Well actually you’re suppose to go the posted speed” “No, that’s the maximum” Holy shit that man came with the factual statements lol.
“You’re getting off with a warning”, then proceeds to ask tons of inconsequential questions. Typical cop behavior, trying to implicate a person for a crime.
One of the things that my driving instructor told me, that has stuck with me decades later is this: “The speed limit is the MAXIMUM speed you can travel, under absolutely PERFECT driving conditions”. Meaning, if it’s raining, traffic is heavily congested or any other number of factors, you should probably be going UNDER the max speed.
It is not unlawful for the police to interrogate you during a stop or even a regular conversation. If the driver would have known at the time ; he could have stopped the interrogation cold. At anytime you can withdraw your implied consent to be interrogated without an attorney present. He was under no obligation to provide the officer details not pertaining to the traffic stop. He should have invoked the 5th.
>> Had an officer do this to me and then change his tune real quick when he saw I’m in the Army. Let me go faster than someone holding a hot potato.>> When they arrest or ticket someone on active duty, the Army for example will investigate the matter and be in contact with the police department who issued the citation.
.. Most people, esp. green card holders, do not understand this. Police are intimidating; and a police officer can ruin your life. People will often just comply to avoid any resistance, and can you blame them? I can’t.>> Why are you here? Why were you vacationing? Why were you born?Why was he asked to go into the cop car to receive the warning? And I am confused why this wasn’t addressed in the video?A warning is like getting an incorrect answer on a quiz before an exam. There’s a reason this happened; maybe you misread a question, lacked domain knowledge, or maybe you ran out of testing time, et cetera. But it gives you something specific that you and your teach can correct, so you get it right in the future. With this warning for his “driving behavior,” there is no specific item for this man to focus on in order to subsequently avoid another warning or citation. (Perhaps he’s advocating doing 80?).@Kurt Wetzel you don’t need to be able to go lower than an f. If an officer breaks the law in any way they fail. There are degrees of success but failure is failure.I’ve actually been pulled over twice in this exact manner, but here in Northern Ontario, Canada. The police officer on both times suspected me of being intoxicated because I was driving slowly (~10km below the posted limit). The first time, it had been raining all afternoon in the fall, and temperatures dropped below freezing and I was driving cautiously as there was ice on the road, and I did not yet have winter tires on. The second time, it was snowing, and we were in town while hauling a very large trailer, and again just trying to be careful.>> This is standard procedure The mission in asking questions is to find a bigger crime or to later attempt to discredit them through inconsistencies in their story in a potential court case>> And if you don’t answer it’s suspicious. No winning
>> He’s trying to find a reason to search him or the car to eventually get a ticket out of him
Civic-minded Black Family’s Kids would have been sent to Child Protective Services over Non-Existent Law
“Soliciting without a permit”
“soliciting what?”
“Whatever you’re soliciting…”
“you don’t even know what I’m doing?”
“what are you soliciting?”
- They wanted to arrest him and take his kids to protective so the parents would have a case with CPS , any thing to destroy a family for no reason
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***CORRECTION*** Mr. Marshall would not have been legally obligated to present his ID unless he had been arrested at the time of the command. Michigan is not a stop and ID state, meaning that more than RAS is required to compel citizens to present ID.
- When the interaction started, I would have requested a supervisor on the scene now.
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Senator Doug Mastriano | Lion’s Den Interview
I had the opportunity to speak with a 30-year veteran, now the Pennsylvania State Senator, Doug Mastriano. Who’s been fighting, probably the loudest in the state of Pennsylvania to reopen the state & get PA back to work.
mean just it was a long haul it was a
great time served with so many beautiful
people it’s been simply amazing let’s
talk about your experiences over there
I’m sure you had scary times I don’t
care who you are I’m sure you’ve seen so
much what experiences did you take from
there they’re helping you do your job
now as an elected official I’m not going
to call you a politician today there’s a
negative connotation especially in this
environment for any a politician but but
your elected official what experiences
are you taking
the key thing that I saw this you know I
did not deploy to the Balkans I don’t
want people who deploy but I supported
the mission I went there many many times
spent a lot of days there supporting the
mission and that that one in particular
struck me because that was a civil war
and then I look around at the atrocities
ever committed and you know people that
want to say maybe we need something like
a civil war in America like you you’re
nuts we don’t want that in here and the
other thing is is just how precious rare
and valuable our freedoms are we take it
for granted every day we wake up you
know you and I can talk and I worry
about the police monitoring our speech
at this moment anyway and we could
liberalize normally and do we want to do
except now and so when I come back I
retire from the Army I’m reflecting on
my career I’m about to go on an
interview with another guy a couple
years ago when I was just leaving the
army and I was before we were recording
I’m complaining about how I’m handing
over the country and state in pretty bad
shape to my son and this young man
looked over and he said well Colonel do
something about it and I’m like oh man
because normally Colonels and generals
are offered you know a nice package by
the federal government to continue to
serve and as a civilian because they say
best so much in US and I thought about
that I had all these excuses like hey I
don’t like politics I don’t have the
money I don’t have the connections I was
prohibited for thirty years while I was
then officer which is a good thing from
being involved politically but he was
right it’s like we need to do something
about it so you know I ended up running
and winning and so I bring with me or
all the thoughts of the sacrifice and
deaths and deployments of all those I
served with here the heroism of so many
the fear that came with it the
uncertainty in life and that’s why I’m
the leading voice of opposition to
governor cuz he has no idea what he’s
doing and those willing accomplices in
the population there’s those busy bodies
that want to go in and oppress you wear
your masks social distance they have no
idea that they’re nothing but useful
idiots for this bad agenda here to
destroy our country and everything is at
stake and we’re about to lose our
freedoms if we don’t stand up and resist
can you tell us some other some other
pieces of legislation that you’re
working on right now in Harrisburg yes
so there’s a couple things here that are
interesting I I together with Senator
Argyll and Schuylkill County we have
legislation and to require the General
Assembly the house has Senate every ten
days to renew emergency order Senator
Kim hill at a Westmoreland County she
has legislation for constitutional
amendment to limit its every 30 days
those are important to sew up right now
and so we need to get those moves so we
can’t have a governor willy-nilly
declaring a 90 day emergency and then
renewing it on this side of control
right now in the middle of a second
emergency order going through September
on this can you imagine this if he gets
away with it
I mean we’re gonna see what happens for
sure well senator thank you for being on
the let then I appreciate it I
appreciate your time you heard it from
the senator every vote matters
I’ve listened this year to a lot of
things I’ll be voting I suggest everyone
to vote whichever way you feel you think
this country should go senator thank you
so much for your time I wish you the
best luck in your upcoming election and
thank you for everything you’re doing
for reopening say the Pennsylvania thank
you for giving the people a voice here
and our lives do matter and what we do
echoes across the generations end to
eternity so this everything’s at stake
for our children and children’s children
we gotta win this fight and together we
will we must thank you senator have a
good day I appreciate everything thank
you bye-bye to be encouraged and be bold
and courageous here a lot of us say call
my vote doesn’t matter my voice doesn’t
matter and and I prove that together you
know with my online chats hear that we
created a movement of thousands of
people last month I reached about three
and a half million people many of those
people have been engaged their Senators
reps and pushing them to do the right
thing a lot of times these these
politicians have been doing this all
their lives here they lost our moral
compass but when the people rise up and
start pushing them I had one of the
senior guys tell me okay you call your
people off be now we compelled him to
force a vote on us here we can make a
difference together and so if I happen
to be the voice right now the people
here to fight for our freedoms here let
we gotta stick together as he as I
Benjamin Franklin said there in the
revolution if we don’t hang together
we’ll hang separately so we gotta hang
together and win this fight