Officer Straight Up Lies To Detain Citizen

Cop Gets Busted, Then Lashes Out To Get Even

 

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That cop knew he was caught and stupidly thought he could turn it around for a stupid ass ticket. Ridiculous. Hope something is done about those tryants. And that sign goes right back up. Unfrikenbelivable
This video shows how cops lie with no worries about getting in trouble even with the camera recording them lie. That’s why qualified immunity and police unions need to go. Citizens need more accountability for bad cops.

Cop attacks, unlawfully detains, is out of jurisdiction citing people and doing all sorts of shady stuff, but it’s the citizen who’s being “hostile”. Well, everybody needs to be “hostile” towards these pignorant tyrants.

 

I love when they call you “confrontational” for “confronting” them for their bs.

 

“I don’t know what a retaliation ticket is.” Literally every word out of cops is a lie. EVERY. WORD.
Please sue! Totally retaliation and illegal. On a side note; I have never seen a cop so obviously scared. The embarrassment he will recieve from this alone should make him resign. I bet even his boyfriend will dump him over this. But Erie Fam should get PAID!
He needs to press criminal charges on these officers for assault. They attacked him multiple times in the video for no reason. Absolutely disgusting.
Talk about moving the goal post mid-game. 😂
Why, are cops allowed to lie all the time???
Nothing speaks to guilty behavior like destroying evidence —like removing entire city boundary signs.
Obviously it was the police that cut the sign. If it was municipal road maintenance, they would not have left the dangerous and sharp stubs sticking up. Sharp stubs hidden in the vegetation at the end of a sidewalk, perfect for a child to fall on and seriously hurt themselves. Even in construction sites, we put bright orange plastic ‘mushrooms’ over the ends of rebar to prevent injury. This is totally irresponsible and a huge liability issue.
If the cop was so afraid of someone “he doesn’t know” coming up to him, why did he exit his car? This cop is a coward who uses the protection of the state to act tough.
Chestnuts News called and left a message for the Chief of Police of Hamburg. Much to his surprise he actually returned his call. He said that officer Sullivan was completely out of line for
1) sitting outside Hamburg,
2) not de-escalating the situation,
3) writing retaliatory tickets against a journalist who caught him breaking the law.
He said he doesn’t know what happened to the Welcome to Hamburg sign, his investigation will include looking to see if any cameras at area businesses might have caught the sign removal, and in fact he was going there right after his phone call to go out there to see if it got dumped on the side. He said he was going to require officer Sullivan to take remedial training on de-escalation skills as well as making sure other officers are aware of the 100 foot rule (not 100 yards). He said none of his officers should be going outside the city limits unless it’s absolutely necessary. He asked what is going to happen to AEC’s retaliatory ticket and he said he was going to get with the DA to see if they can get it dismissed before court date. He said I have to say I’m really impressed with this Chief. He was open, humble, and he seemed to be honest. He said if he discovered that someone inside the department removed the sign they would be fired and charged with theft.
  • Providing he’s not BSing you
  • Would like a follow-up on this incident and Chief of Police of Hamburg
  • My suggestion is for us not to hold our breaths while we wait for our servant to be true to his word. Just saying…
Cutting down the sign is misprision of evidence. Depose whatever the local equivalent of the public works department is. Someone has committed a felony. They won’t face criminal consequences, but it will cement the city’s civil liability.
A valuable LESSON to ALL AUDITORS in this video is: ALWAYS do a nice, steady, slooow, 360* pan more than once during a video (maybe zoomed in just a little depending on distances involved) of the entire area. WHY? Well in this video, such a careful, clear, slow 360* scan would have clearly cemented WHERE exactly the cop’s car was sitting and which WAY it was facing, WHERE exactly the auditor’s truck was sitting (it could have/should have been parked several feet more away from the road as THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK THERE (who else caught that right away when they headed for his truck?) and it would have clearly shown the CITY LIMIT SIGN existence and location in relation to the cop’s car, the auditor’s truck, etc. Details being recorded OFTEN DO MATTER in these audit videos, and…the camera can only see what it is pointed at and focused on during the recording of the video.
What did you expect for him to do/say, “You’re right, I’m sorry, I’ll move along.?” The police do not have the ability to admit they’re wrong even when they’re on video. It’s Sad, pathetic,
and oh so common! FTP! Keep up the good work my man.
Who’s the “bad cop” here? Answer: It’s the 2 other officers on scene that did nothing to stop and deescalate the unlawful detention. They knew their fellow officer was wrong and they didn’t stop him.
He actually said “sneak up on me”. Broad daylight with a camera… That’s an admission of poor situational awareness. Acting like a tough guy but scared of every citizen interaction. Every department policy claims to be professional and courteous when interacting with the community… I have yet to see this expected behavior from the police.
he is going to leave him in cuffs until he “copsplains and gets him to comply” If the cop thinks everyone he meets is a dangerous person he needs to get a new line of work.
11:00The reason I need your ID is because you were walking in traffic“, he said it – therefore he has to own it. Was he in traffic? I didn’t see it. Hmmm……. yeah, no he’s lying, maybe because it’s starting to dawn on him just how much trouble he’s getting into. Why else would he manufacture BS. IMO there are many cops that still think this is a noble job… yeah, they push that or this line, but they still think it’s respected. What they don’t realize is that the train left the station a few years ago…. that’s over. All you’re doing today is just perpetuating the bad label. Here is another classic case.
I wonder why they removed the sign if they had “clear” jurisdiction? I wonder how the neighboring city feels about the revenue theft on their side? Is this another gang war brewing? So many questions.
How do they even have jurisdiction within 100 feet? This is clearly not “Hot Pursuit”…
This cop knew from the get-go that he was busted. I think that he felt that he could intimidate his way out of the situation, but he failed at that also. He reached into his bag of lies and came up with “Walking in the street, then it was demanding ID for illegally parked. His fellow officers should have put the choke collar on him by then, but that did not happen, so they should be named in the lawsuit as well. This poor excuse for an officer needs to be taken down a few notches and get some mandatory retraining.
He wanted his name to try to get the upper hand. It was like this, “Ok, you know I’m writing tickets outside my jurisdiction, but now you also know that I know who you are”. It was a failed attempt to make AEC think twice about making a big deal about what he found him doing.
That’s such a dangerous hazard they created. I can imagine destroying my legs not seeing the sharp metal sticking up.
Corruption at its finest! 6:40 Assault charges! 2nd assault 8:30 this dude has lost his job and is the reason his town is going to pay out big time. Phone call made…..They hung up on me! Guess they don’t want an explanation on what retaliatory policing is. I didn’t even get to Ask about the Sign 🙁
This dude’s a local hero. Our news media tries to make him look bad. And they just get roasted
what a crooked lil leprechaun. and loved how the auditor stayed on topic. Cop had to push him to make it seem like he was in the road. What a scared little piggy. Had to call for back up to write a ticket? And I might be wrong, but was he illegally park? Looked like an easement to me
I would love to hear a cop tell a judge they have jurisdiction outside their jurisdiction. Maybe it’s time that someone request all car dash cam and look at every ticket they write. Find a bunch of illegal tickets and watch so many others get dismissed, plus being able to ask cops if their fellow officers illegally write ticket and the officers will have to say yes
The most aggressive meter maid I’ve ever seen and he’s a jerk 👎
Something seems illegal when he, the cop, solicited a deal that if the citizen would give up one of his rights then he would take him ‘out of cuffs’.
Just remember, when seconds count, the police are only 77 minutes away.
That is a very good point about them issuing parking tickets all the time and they don’t need anybody’s ID to do it.
The officers that stand by and watch these retaliation actions or join in are every bit as guilty and should be disciplined
Get rid of qualify immunity with solved most of all these incidents. Cops would automatically act better if they had to pay the court fine for breaking the law
Lesson 1
Walking up to a Cop and asking a question is considered “being confrontational” this coming from a man that spends everyday walking up to people and encroaching on them even being grabby at times all i kept hearing from the Cop was I don’t know,,,,this is what someone with a low iq and zero trainning says….Cop clearly needs to go back to trainning,,,,he got lying and thuggery down, now how about juristdictions
If AEC confronted him with lunch and coffee, that wouldn’t be a problem. Instead AEC confronted him with QUESTIONS!! GASP! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Asking questions is anti-police
And this is why I shook the NY dust off my feet and moved to Florida. NY was so corrupt I couldn’t stand living there
Is it possible to call there DOT to see if they cut the sign? If not then report it to the DOT and start an investigation for Vandalism, they should put the sign back up.
1:04 Jumping out of his vehicle in full tactical gear while only on traffic duty tells you everything you need to know about this blue line clown.
“I need your ID to write you a parking ticket,” said no parking enforcement person, ever.
I have no clue why cops thinks moving/removing signs actually changes the official jurisdiction lines. My father was career law enforcement and told me about a particularly dangerous intersection on the very edge of the county. People would often crash into the county line sign. The officers hated having to respond to accidents so far out in the hills, so each time the sign got knocked down they would knowingly reinstall it on the other side of the intersection in an attempt to make the neighboring county have to respond to the next accident. Both counties would move the sign back and forth in an attempt to shirk responding to the accidents. It got to the point neither county knew their actual jurisdiction boundaries.
11:12 their game of demanding id has always been nothing but a power shift. They know full well that they actually have zero lawful authority to go hands on or compel for “violations”….they are hiding behind legislation that they willfully interpret incorrectly because it gives them the backing needed to survive the balance that is their buddy club, the courts. Too bad they didn’t study those oaths before going on their career as a fishing road pirate…
12:06 “Here’s the thing, in the future if you want to come up and talk to me or any other officer, [get ready for a retaliatory ticket and some intimidation tactics because I DO NOT want you to interact with me]”
9:11 “Because of the fact that you’re so hostile with me … [I’m going to ignore all the laws I personally broke and pretend that you’re the problem here].”
Them removing the sign is great for you it proves intent…That’s the hardest element to prove

Cops lied to put him in handcuffs, but a camera caught the truth!

A Los Angeles man says he was targeted by police after he was pulled over for crossing a line in front of a stop sign; but after placing him in handcuffs and arresting the passenger in his car, a recording cellphone caught the real reason cops pulled him over.

This Is What Happens When Cops Get Their Feelings Hurt | This Guy Was Ready!

Courts need to start doing something about these dirty cops. He had every right to flip that cop off that goes to show he’s dirty because he was going to ticket him for that it’s not against the law. Are these people trained in law at all ? 😱
It’s like they’re thinking “if the public hates us, well we’ll just go give ’em another reason to hate us then”
I expect a ARMED police officer to be “cool” and “adult” enough to ignore gestures like that.
Freedom of speech is so paramount to the foundation of this nation that our founders wrote it down first. I may not agree with how some choose to express that right, but I support their right to express it!
Police in New York are on notice that flipping the middle finger (“one-finger salute”) at a cop is protected speech and a constitutional right that’s “clearly established” … meaning they get no “qualified immunity” for pulling a car over in response to getting the bird — aka digitus impudicus — from the motorist. See Swartz v. Insogna 704 F. 3d 105 – Court of Appeals, 2nd Circuit, 2013.
The cop needs a reason to get his ID, but the he doesn’t need to articulate that reason to the driver. And I believe that’s a problem. I think police should be required to verbalize the actual statute (section/paragraph/text) that was allegedly broken before he compels identification.
It’s sad how law enforcement has become, even the retired cops frown on these new ones, no integrity, retaliation against the public,
So the officer chose to pull him over illegally and unlawfully detain him for something that was not a crime. Is it being a dick? Yes. But not a crime. Unfortunately if your ego is so easily hurt that you have to violate somebody’s right and break the law yourself to make sure they knew that your ego is hurt, maybe you should not be wearing that badge!
Why do ALL these sovereign citizens dress the same way? “You flipped me off and that’s not normal.” He’s right. We need to normalize it.
There is reasonable suspicion, and then then there is only one other kind in this context. It is quite unlawful to detain anybody for anything less than a reasonable suspicion of a violation of the law. There are circumstances where I’d get verbally offensive with a cop but the only good way to be is to try to not aggravate public servants, cops included. This cop was wrong to detain finger man but he at least didn’t escalate into a deeper abuse of authority. Imagine the police facing a population that knew how to calmly and succinctly stand for their rights at every encounter, and too smartly file complaints at every abuse of authority.
As always, Thank You for a very informative. Serious question, Do you think that the majority of the officers that act this way are in hopes of you not knowing your rights or are they so dumb that they have no idea that we even have rights. I know an officer that made this statement, “ a sovereign citizen has no rights. You can literally treat them anyway that you want to “ this comment was made sitting around a card table with plenty alcohol and some special ingredient peanut butter cookies. All in which this officer was partaking , He said more stupid stuff that night, I just can’t recall anything else right now .
He should have said “so you stopped me for freedom of speech?” I’d also add “I’ll make sure to cite that in the lawsuit and criminal complaint.”
The officer admitted he illegally stopped the citizen– the chief should immediately suspend him and make sure he gets educated on civil rights and Supreme Court rulings. This officer is a clear danger to the citizens of the town or city he works for. Very sad that this is how bad law enforcement has become.
If the driver was not recording these cops would have really messed with this dude. Flipping cops off is not the brightest thing to do. They’ll now be on the lookout for this dude just to screw with him.
You mentioned being “Trained to violate the rights of citizens” nor being trained in the law. This is one of the reasons most police departments will not hire someone with an IQ above 125. If you score too high on certain tests, it shows that you may be too smart to be an officer. No offense intended, but sadly they want to hire drones and robots, not intelligent humans who might question authority and the tactics of modern police departments. It’s just sad.

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Cops arrested him for filming in public, but things took a bizarre turn when the case went to court

 

The arrest of a Texas cop watcher for filming in public is the most recent chilling example of how law enforcement across the country is attempting to roll back auditors’ First Amendment rights. Jack Miller, also known as Texas Sheepdog, was filming outside the Olmos Park, Texas, City Hall when police arrested and charged him with multiple crimes. The ensuing five-day trial and jury verdict reveal that citizens’ ability to film in public is facing new obstacles and concerted pushback from the government.

 

 

He should have immediately filed an appeal and had his sentence stayed a federal judge would have looked at that video and put a halt to the entire sentence
Assault on a Police Officer? He never touched them. Or Is hurting their fragile feelings by cursing at them a Federal Offense?
Maybe if the police stopped making frivolous arrest, they wouldn’t have to worry about charges being dropped. The police need to know and understand the law!
…Let me get this straight. He went out to film a PSA about not threatening cops, only to have the cops brutally assault him trying to help cops. The Irony in this story is off the charts. 📈🤦🏿
It would be interesting to hear the jury instructions. Should be appealed.
I have to believe that that jury had no idea what they were doing I saw nothing of what they charged him with.
This is a prime example of how our justice system is not about right or wrong but about money and power and ego’s
I’m surprised they aren’t drug testing you twice per day! (They charge you $30.00 each time!) Its a money racket… Financial extortion! Probation is far worse than serving the time … (Never accept probation!) – Michael B. Saari for Michigan State Senate 2022
He needs to get himself a lawyer who knows what the law is. Being a retired lawyer I cannot believe that he was convicted
how in the hell did a trial get the majority of the the jurors to have a guilty plea? it is SUPER clear to me that he wasnt resisting, and VERY clear that he did not attack a police officer and the fact that it was a toy gun not an actual fire arm means how did they tack on a fire arm charge with no fire arm? this sounds EXTREMLY fishy to me ( meaning like corruption )
>> Yeah, the gun charges got me as well… isn’t this in an open carry state and that was a toy rifle SLUNG over his back? Not very menacing.
Weaponized law enforcement. Imagine that.
I’m wondering how a jury can find you guilty of resisting arrest when there was no crime committed. Resisting arrest is a secondary charge. I would say I want another jury trial with new jury members, as seeing as those jurors must be incredibly incompetent. There was no crime to begin with, so how was resisting arrest of a crime that was never committed? 2nd Amendment? That’s not a crime. Blocking a pathway? Didnt see him blocking anyone. And assault on a peace officer!?!?!? Where in this video does it show this man lay a single finger on these cops!?!?!?!? Except maybe he pulled away from them when THEY TRIED TO GRAB HIM!!! And they tackled him to the ground, pulled his arm behind his back essentially breaking it to where he needed surgery 2 days later, hes laying there crying in pain, and they charged him with Assault on a peace officer!?!?!? Get the fuck outta here dude!!! So even though he had a fake gun (Even if real, we still have 2nd amendment), was not blocking a single person on the sidewalk, didnt commit a crime at all, and was the one brutally tackled to the ground and had his arm broken, he is still somehow found guilty on all charges? What video did these jurors see, because I see the complete opposite of these charges. Once again, to recap… Fake Gun, blocking no one’s movement, didnt lay a single finger on either of those cops, no crime committed, and being the victim of assault and battery and hes still charged with disorderly (Possibly Brandishing with intent to harm), blocking pathway, assault on peace officer, and resisting arrest!?!?!?!?!? What kind of a system are we in where we find our fellow man guilty at the hands of the corrupts crimes? I’m scared to live in this society. I dont want today’s corruption and abuse to be my future….

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Fishing Expedition ends in Retaliation?

“Can I leave?”
“No”
“You’re loitering”
  • This happens a lot especially when it’s a female officer being observed by a male officer. She has to show she can throw her authority around. And make citizens afraid of her.

 

  • This was one of the more infuriating cop videos I’ve seen. The female cop obviously lied about seeing Adam smoking. She holds onto his ID, effectively detaining him, and then issues him a citation for trespassing. Where do you get nerve like this?

 

 

>> He never should’ve handed over his ID.

  • Boy, if this isn’t a police state, then what is? Thanks Adam.
  • Stopped for allegedly smoking, detained for several minutes, then ticketed for loitering. Could this cop be any more dishonest and corrupt?
  • They illegally detaine him to issue a loitering citation. What a bunch of crooks.
  • This is one of the most BS tickets I’ve ever seen. I hope to God he fought it. Any reputable DA would toss this ticket after viewing the video. Of course, I’ve seen some pretty outrageous cases brought to court, so I emphasize the term “reputable”.
  • It’s almost to the point where we need to walk around with our own body cameras. I don’t know how cops sleep at night when they treat people like this
  • “the officer made a mistake” is what people will say to defend actions like this as “not a big deal”… bad cop defenders will never find this offensive until THEY are being accused of something they had not done… the cops were SO certain they were going to find something else, they lead with a lie that had to keep evolving from smoking, to loitering… without video evidence how do you beat the testimony of a “decorated officer with extensive training and knowledge”…
  • Viewing from United Kingdom. This is appalling! She was determined to punish him for not bowing down to her. And the other officers were a party to this. I hope this gets enough publicity for her superiors to see and for her to be reprimanded! Disgraceful behaviour exhibited here, adding to the hatred of police
  • I think the lady cop backed herself into a corner once she called for backup. After she called for backup, in order to “save face” with her coworkers looking on, she had to write a ticket for something. It remains to be seen if loitering would have been the citation until it was suggested by her fellow cop. Hope the fellow fought the ticket – especially the trespass one. These cops are wildly out of control and don’t appear to have an adequate working knowledge of the Utah “no smoking” law.
  • “You’re not gonna tell me how to do my job.” Well someone has to because you have no idea what you’re doing.
  • The problem here is the police have developed their policy around the grey areas of the law that give them authority. It is the reason there needs to be a totally separate organization.
    •  IMHO it’s bc people are way to quick to take a settlement. They can go all the way with this, making it it case law or reference to such. Terry v Ohio must be challenged, and have a standard for what is reasonable, bc these cops clearly aren’t reasonable people
    • I hadn’t thought of it that way but seems accurate. I think it’s also a combination of some officers that are just plain bored. She prob saw someone who looked out of place in “her” community and went on a fishing expedition cause he looked like someone who smoked and when that didn’t work she had to find something to justify her stop and jam him up for not being adequately deferential to her perceived authority. She’s prob also trying to climb the ladder and had a supervisor comment on her dearth of citations. It’s a system that rewards finding or even creating criminality rather than keeping peace. Department budgets and funding are based on amount of “crime” rather than creating a culture of mutual respect and lawfulness. They assume low crime rate means they’re not “finding” it. They need to justify their exorbitant budgets and military toys somehow. Yet if there is a spike in actual crime they have a press conference reassuring the public that it’s not really that bad because they keep the peace and exaggerate any small decrease in crime as solely due to their department. It’s a self-reinforcing cycle of judicial theater.
  • when they sited him for trespassing, i would have asked them if uta had asked them to remove me for trespassing. the police don’t have the power to just trespass you, unless the property manager has asked them to remove you, that is not in their power to do.
    • They can and will convince someone at UTA to file a complaint.
    • @Mr. Security  that would be soliciting a trespass, and that is also illegal. I’m not saying they wouldn’t do it, but they’re not supposed to.
    • @Ryan Barry  they’ve done it before and since
    • That does depend on the state. I don’t agree with it, but it’s my understanding.
  • Unscrupulous actions by officers like the ones in this video are an important reason why the public is continuing to lose respect for the police. Supervisors in law enforcement should take these incidents more seriously because of the negative impact they have in their communities.
  • Any judge that allows contempt of cop tickets should be removed from the bench and disbarred. We the people don’t deserve this treatment from government.
  • that was crazy. She lied about seeing him smoking. Then tickets him for loitering for the time he was staying there because she wouldn’t let him leave.
  • How else can police departments get money? They have make up infractions when there aren’t crimes, otherwise there would be no need for them.
  • “OK, so you weren’t committing any crime. No problem. We’ll just make something up.”
  • Funny they told him he was being detained for loitering when they’re the one who’s keeping him here even if they don’t have any right too. It should be every cops knowledge that people have a right to remain silent so let us use it.
  • He’s NOT loitering!!! THEY aren’t letting him leave!!
  • There’s no such thing as a stop and ID law. Any ID law still requires a law to be broken to ID someone….
  • You can’t be detained and loitering at the same time. He needs to fight the charge on principle.
  • This is exactly why “stop and ID” laws are complete bs! Cops can make up any kind of excuse they want in order to get your ID so they can cite you. Because it’s their word against yours in court.
  • Pig: “I saw you smoking. Give me your ID.” Innocent civilian: Hands them his ID, “But I don’t smoke.”
  • Pig: “Now that I have your ID I’m gonna cite you for loitering instead and trespass you too, and it’s a class B misdemeanor if you don’t sign.”
  • WTF OVER!?!? This guy needs to get a hold of the bus stop surveillance videos, haul that bitch into court, and sue the hell out of her and the state.
  • this dudes mistake was ever giving up his ID. He should have demanded to be arrested.
  • I saw this awhile back, and it’s just like all the officers you run into here in Utah especially UTA cops, they use the smoking cigarette thing here like other officers use the I smell weed on other states. Thanks so much for all your hard work and for the share 😊❤👍💯✌
  • 2 minutes? The statue clearly says cannot be standing for more than 2 minutes as to block the pathway of others, after 2 minutes as long as you’re not blocking the pathway you’re not loitering.
  • @5:18 Loitering?! He already said “give me my ID back so i can leave.” She’s keeping him there, how is THAT loitering?
  • How can people unironically say they “back the blue” when crap like this happens EVERY DAMN DAY?!
    • depends where you live i dont support city cops but i suppport sheriff’s and a few police in the country they aren’t like these people plus you have no choice but to back the blue lol
    • We all need to know and remember the definition of loitering and our states laws on ID. This lady should be fired
  • This was a while ago and I think I recall that while she wasn’t fired for this, she was fired for something else later.
  • It’s from 2013.
  • love watching these kind of videos, it just makes me appreciate more that I’m living in New Zealand. The cops are friendly, helpful and don’t even carry guns.
  • Stop and identify laws don’t allow an officer to identify anyone, at any time, for no good reason.” Correct. The corrupt legal system refusing to criminally charge and prosecute cops for doing such things is gives them that power. And it will continue until we the people demand it change.
  • This seems like an easy win. He was cited for loitering, AFTER he was Detained, and not free to leave.
  • So she got caught lying and then played stupid.
  • Just when I thought I’d seen them all, they come up with a new one: Ordering you not to leave, then accusing you of LOITERING! Man are they slick!
  • another clueless cop demanding ID for not answering questions…. it’s all about running this guy for warrants…. first smoking.. oh wait now loitering….. another cop telling lies….
  • I know that in the moment, dealing with these bullies can make it difficult to gather your thoughts, but i would’ve liked to see him have her justify the loitering citation.
  • Just love that these tyrants dont make any attempt to hide the fact that they’re taking action against law abiding citizens who they have personal beef with. I just watched a cop on manuel mata’s channel who said clear as day that yes, they can and do solicit trespasses against people just because they dont like them. Said it without hesitancy, knowing he was being filmed.
  • I remember this one.. Geez man just sad. Entire country is a police state at this point and I don’t think it’ll change. Just get worse as long as there’s qualified immunity. There’s a reason they don’t teach the Bill of rights or constitution in most public school’s anymore.. Kids are taught to not ask questions just obey any and all authority.
  • REMEMBER THE FIRST 2 RULES WHEN DEALING WITH POLICE…(1) ALWAYS RECORD POLICE…(2) ALWAYS KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT…. its your right to remain silent….
  • We need to remove qualified immunity 100% cross the board police should be forced to get private insurance just like doctors have to have for malpracticeI remember watching this video a long time ago and these officers are just losing their minds trying ro find any little thing to charge people with
  • All auditors should start asking these cops if they’re going to go home and show their kid this video or any video they’re in because we all know they don’t want their children to see who they really are
  • It is respectful for a police officer to remove sunglasses when talking to a member of the public in an official capacity, unless you want to try intimidating and hide your sincerity towards them
  • I think if a Cop’s sole reason for demanding someone give them ID is to run their name for warrants it’s Unconstitutional!!!
  • I love the officer who said he was protecting UTA property! Isn’t he sworn to protect and defend the constitution over any private business needs?
  • Sudden realization: I have never had a job where I could interact with anybody inside or outside of the business and say “You’re not gonna tell me how to do my job.” in any official capacity
  • And then they hold your ID hostage as they make up a reason to charge you with something. Public property where they can put a trespass on someone and force them to spend time and money to correct the injustice.
  • Adam needs to send auditors there and do a mass 1st amendment audit. See if those tyrants has the guts to harass those auditors.
  • This happens all the time in utah, all over utah. They just make shit up if they cant catch you or find anything illegal on you. Ive been a victim of this crap all my life. We need more civil rights attorneys here. Ive tried to sue and no attorneys want to take the case
  • There is a simple blood test which can identify if a person has used tobacco in the last 30 days. A test which would prove the officer was lying about having seen him smoking.
  • The key moment: 7:55 Adam says: “See I know this is your job, but you can quit at any moment. You can quit and go find yourselves a real job.” Truth.
  • If you are asked the question, “Were you doing X?”
  • The response is always, “Do you suspect me of doing X?”
  • In situations like this, always ask for name and badge number remember to uphold your 5th and request an incident report number . Don’t forget to ask for supervisor it’ll be extra aid when you file for civil suits.
  • I think they should make a law that any cop found lying is put in prison with hardened criminals.
  • couple years ago my fiance and I watched a police officer pick up my wallet from a Dollar General Store parking lot. I was going to visit my brother who has cerebral palsy so my fiance went to the police station to have the officer dispatched. They threatened to arrest her and basically said even if they did recover it there’d be no money in it which it had 130$ in it. The officers basically intimidated her and threatened to arrest her if she filed a complaint. Realizing the weren’t going to help or be honest about the officer who picked up the wallet she decided to leave and we just took it as a loss several weeks after that every time we were in that part of town we began to be followed by patrolmen and a couple of months after that incident they followed her from one end of town to another stopping her and saying the reason for the stop is that they didn’t believe the color of the car match the color that was listed on the registration and when she proved them all of those things they cited her for having a mask hanging from the rearview mirror saying it obstructed her view. six officers showed up on that incident and I myself refused to identify myself because I had did nothing wrong apparently they didn’t like that because we have had nothing but harassment and intimidation from and on Sept 9th 2021 one of the same officers involved during original incident stopped us after we were parked in the out of our vehicle he even admitted on the report that he was several cars behind us and the reason he stopped us was because we didn’t engage your turn signal 100ft prior to the turn but tomorrow understanding that is only when traveling on the highway not within a municipal Corporation limited long story short we were ripped from our vehicle they threatened her and told her that she could go home if she provided my information which she refused they arrested her did not read her her rights tell her why she was being arrested or any of the above and during the arrest after we had already asked for a supervisor because the officer lied on the report and on the violation they’re trying to say now that the cam footage doesn’t exist and that is a lie it just shows one of the officers dropped their gun clip and bullets fell out everywhere while having my faced slammed to the ground. We tried to file a complaint with the chief of police for that incident and was threatened with arrest for making false accusations not a reporter knees has he been listen to our side of the story and trying to get us both to court to charges that we did not commit but are only trying to cover up their misconduct where do we go for help
  • Even if he did answer her question and said he wasn’t smoking, she wouldn’t believe him, so it wouldn’t matter what he said.
  • “You can’t leave. You’re being detained.”
  • “For what crime?”
  • “Loitering.”
  • I’m pretty sure that’s called illegal detainment ..not loitering.
  • She’s also purposely breaking his ID if you watch her hands. Cops do this all the time, I’ve gotten my ID back damaged and once my friend got his back completely broken.
  • She was damaging property ( his ID card) by bending it in the whole interaction
  • UPDATE: Although this video is nearly 9 years old (2013) the viral content didn.t hinder Aymee Race’s career. Over the years she has received several commendations , currently (2021) she has risen to the rank of Detective and serves at the Unified Police Department based in Salt Lake City, Utah.
  • I’m from Salt Lake and I can say from personal experience those Transit cops are worse than the regular cops
  • Cop: I saw you smoking! Issues a ticket for loitering with no mention of smoking. It’s like her whole argument had nothing to stand on in the first place.
  • These people aren’t cops! They don’t know what it is to serve a community. She is bearing false witness. For shame. Take that badge off. She is a horrible cop
  • I checked out Adam’s page. He specifically asked to be left alone. This video is several years old and was his only video. He has received death threats over it. He believes the cops have too. The reaction was way more than he expected; and way over the top! He was not a part of the audit community; this was just a “one-off.” He had somebody else edit and post it for him — and then forgot about it until the hate started. Why did you think it was a good idea to bring new trouble to this guy? Oh, there’s money in it!
  • .. It’s this immature, bully attitude from law enforcement that frustrates and angers me. Their actions are not supported by the constitution or law. This was completely unnecessary and sickening.
  • That guys biggest mistake was giving her his identification, he got it partially right by asking if he committed a crime and the burden of proof is on her which she couldn’t produce so she slaps a loitering charge on him instead, how can you be loitering if your there waiting for someone? He let this cop manipulate him!
  • .. I hate those laws that require you to sign or it’s automatically a higher offence and/or jail time.
  • .. We need to speak up about this problem we need to flood their phones and peacefully protest our grievances
  • .. Should have asked for a supervisor as soon as she forced the ID issue. She’s a perfect example of the types of crooks creating the divide between the communities and the police.
  • .. This is exactly why we need a law on the books to protect citizens. In order to protect your rights and fight back against these kinds of acts, you have to go to court, but for many people representation is costly and difficult to obtain. 50 dollars is nothing. It’s extortion by a thousand cuts, making sure that the price of paying for the unlawful ticket is cheaper than fighting the charge. Pass a law that allows citizens to recover their costs against violations like these and watch this behavior dry up.
  • .. Pure harassment. Those cops need to be fired!
  • She asked if he was smoking and he said no. Then she said I saw you smoking. Then he asked then why’d you ask me? Then she said , “Because I wanted to see if you would be truthful.” Then when she couldn’t prove it they accuse him of loitering. Then a bus pulls up? It’s a bus stop! He’s supposedly loitering at a bus stop which people wait at for busses for hours!
  • kinda makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside the way cops have our backs don’t it?
  • .. “What are you serving and protecting?” “I’m protecting UTA property.” And that ladies, gentlemen, and NBs is EXACTLY what American police do in this country. They protect CAPITAL, not PEOPLE.
  • .. It’s like the cops want to give the public a reason to despise them! Peace!
  • .. “Show me your ID” is the drug of choice for cops.
  • It’s so interesting the the lying cop wants to see if the person she’s lying to will be honest! With regard to judges taking the word of a cop over that of a citizen, any judge should know that the burden of proof is on the government. So the benefit of the doubt should always be to the citizen.
  • 6:00 as she flicks the I.D. she is deciding what she can do to him. If he had a vehicle they would have given him an even more difficult time in retaliation.
  • In the other 2 officers defense, sitting idle while this happens is part of the problem. 8:45 she wants his vehicle too. 9:15 she tickets him. He asks “I got a ticket for loitering?!?!” She demands his quiet, so instead of saying “Yes,” she can make him appear rude and interruptive so she can hear her own voice repeat her/his offense: “I am giving you a ticket for loitering…” he repeats it. “LET ME SPEAK! I am giving you a ticket for loitering.” Lying and belittling is part of this witch’s job
  • .. It should be illegal for the officer to wear a sunglasses while handling “suspects”
  • Other than the police, what other profession do their employees regularly lie ?
  • .. His first mistake was talking to her. His second mistake was giving up his ID.
  • This is exactly why body cams are essential
  • .. A signature on a ticket is a contract (to show up in court and plead ones innocence in this case), no one person nor entity may be compelled to enter into a contract with or without due representation. This is a common misconception, upon full information to fill out a ticket and an officer signature there is no need for the issuant to also sign. This is classic bully tactics and retaliation because the initial ‘infraction’ was never cited nor spoken of again.
  • .. If refusing to sign a citation is a class b misdemeanor then what she did was fraud for trying to stitch him up
  • .. So, she lied about him smoking, detains him then does him for loitering. I think she missed the charge of walking on the cracks in the pavement.
  • .. The 2 male cops are just as guilty for just standing by while they watched an illegal retaliation citation.
  • What happened to protect and serve? Treat people how you want to be treated. That goes for cops too….once you have determined a no threat situation, act accordingly. Women cops are the worst power trippers. Very sad
  • .. Cops can’t trespass you unless the property owner or agent requests it.
  • .. You can’t be trespassed unless you were asked by UIT to leave first, only then can she give a trespass warning.
  • .. Another example of why Qualified Immunity needs to be abolished for LEOs. Qualified Immunity is for government officials so they can keep it, but not ANY type of LEO. Back the Blue Until it Happens to YOU.
  • .. I looked it up; UTA Utah Transportation Authority is a public funded operation. In order to be trespassed from any public property, you have to be committing a crime on that property. That trespass order was illegal.
  • Her question about if he parked his vehicle over here is illogical. If, as she claimed, that she had witnessed him smoking; which was a total lie, then she would have observed where he came from. All three of these cops should be charged in federal court with a CRIMINAL civil rights violation. It’s the law that brought down the klan.
  • I remember this video. She was constantly making things up in order to justify her stop. Its her EGO thats hurt cause he wouldnt answer her He’s not obligated to answer her questions. 1rst she asks “if he was smoking”, than says ” he was smoking” then asks again. Than hes “LOITERING” Than “tresspassing” Funny how she wont answer what hes detained for She starts her corporate City Masters well. Revenue collecting
  • She kept him from leaving by holding his documents, then cites for loitering? Really? What arrogance.
  • .. They detained him and required him to stay. In other words they created the offense that they cited him for.
  • I got hassled in the UK by a community police officer (something below a full police officer) for pulling over on double yellow lines (no parking) to let a passenger out. He told me I couldn’t park there and I said I wasn’t parking, I was just letting someone out and then moving on. He said that’s the same thing. I asked why double red lines exist (meaning no stopping) and rather than answer, he just started walking around my vehicle looking for a different reason to give me a hard time. That’s what they do. If you bruise their egos, they will find a petty reason to punish you. Since he was not a full cop I just drove off in the middle of him doing his checks.
  • This is retaliation for exercising 5th amendment rights.
  • The dumb logic of the officers that some auditors should be aware of. How does asking for I.D. gonna help investigate a crime? How his ID gonna prove if he was smoking or not?
  • Wow that was clearly a set up, if I a: in that situation after seeing this, I would walk away and say I am not going to be entrapped, I don’t smoke, not going to loiter. I would like to see if this female and the other two cops are writing these tickets all day long. The money must be outstanding, think about it, $50.00 a person x3 cops writing let’s say 5 people a day, that’s $750.00 a day, $5,250.00 week, $21,000. A month, $252,000. A year….that’s just 5 people each. That is a ridiculous amount of money. They entrapped him, they purposely stopped him to keep him there over 2 minutes to write that ticket. I think it is unlawful and disgraceful.This is so sad, that we deal with this in a so called free country!
  • Would that not be like stopping you at a red light then giving you a ticket after the light turned green because you didn’t go. I called my buddies over, it’s a power thing.
  • This one would be an easy inexpensive to beat. Simply ask the officer why she initiated contact. Either the truthful answer (she believed she observed him smoking) or the false answer (she observed him loitering) would be difficult for her to prove. Smoking: beyond her belief, there was no evidence; when she arrived at his location,, no cigarettes were found on his person, no extinguished cigarettes were found nearby. Loitering: he had a legitimate and lawful reason to be at the station, so no loitering.
  • ..  The cop says that she wanted to see if he would be truthful or not. That’s fresh coming from cops who lie all the time
  • This is downtown near Gateway Mall and Plaza. There’s cameras probably about every twenty or so feet. The cops had evidence this guy was smoking then they should have issued a citation ;But this is unclear if he was smoking or if there’s a violation of any kind. If you presents this in court the charges will be dismissed. Then again Sue UTA for quite a bit. UTA is partially public owed.
  • UTA is 84% funded through taxes and federal grants, that makes it public property, not private property.
  • Utah is the most inhospitable state I have ever been to
  • Being a cop is a hard job but this was a cash grab from the cops proof in point he was not charged with smoking but a bogus charge that would be hard to prove differently
  • They can not legally trespass someone from publicly accessible areas. Police can not legally trespass. Only the owner of the property can trespass.
  • How she casually lies on someone….that is the most alarming thing about this video.
  • In the U.K. where I live, the cops don’t act like tyrants. If you commit a minor traffic offence, or accidentally drop a piece of litter for example, the cops would probably just give you some advice, “Be careful, don’t do it again” Part of the reason for this is that if you get charged with a minor non – criminal offence in the U.K. then the cop will have a lot of paper work to write up, which they would rather not have to do.
  • Instead of suggesting that auditors stay quiet (a virtual impossibility for many of them), you should suggest that they either stay silent, or answer every question with a question (which is both NOT answering a question, and not staying silent). I think that you will find that many of them are capable of this far easier than just remaining silent.
  • Just so everyone knows, the videos of the light rail train is NOT from Utah. That is the Hoboken, NJ light rail station. It is connected to the Hoboken NJ Transit train terminal. I know because I lived in Jersey City most of my life and have been an EMT with the Hoboken Volunteer Ambulance Corps for 22 years.
  • I would have never tolerated that bullshit and would have contacted a attorney, fought the charges until they were dismissed and then I would have gone to a town meeting and served them with a civil complaint, I also would have contacted the news media as well , the city council or commissioners should be out rage as to how the police are treating out of town visitors !
  • All you have to do is get a foot from him and smell. Then all of that extra bunk is void.
  • People has said it many times and I’m sure its just annoying to hear. But this is why no one has any compassion for the police when stuff happens for them. The few people that do care for the cops are either bootlickers that worship them or people that are ignorant to what the police has been doing to our community. There is no in between at this point, you either worship them or you’re ignorant to what they’ve been doing to law abiding citizens. I used to love the police until the day they allowed my mother to die and until I saw all that shit they’ve been doing to people that dared to question them.
  • Police & sheriffs do this constantly. They need mental health training so desperately because they are causing trauma & in severe cases PTSD symptoms.
  • Federal prosecutor, “Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.”

 

Cop Retaliates by Asking Veteran to Step out of Vehicle

Mt. juliet police department

  • The reason that police officer asked you to get out of your car was a power trip and it made his ego feel bigger.

 

  • This gentleman just exposed what the public is up against and certainly is NOT the treatment we pay for. The fact that this supervisor can NOT be honest just further highlights the problem with cops.

 

  • As soon as a cop says, this isn’t a courtroom. You’ve proved they have no case.
  • Really good way he went about doing this, instead of arguing with the supervisor he told him to talk to the cop who didn’t explain to him what he did wrong. This is a perfect interrogation question.
  • There was no reason for this man to get out of his car for a simple traffic stop. This supervisor is covering for this cop
  • The cop was angry because you used your rights to not talk and to record. So he had to do a power play and pull you out of the car. The cops can’t explain it any other way. Because we can….FTP
  • You decided to exercise your right and that’s suspicious to us
  • I LOVE how you turned their “officer safety” around on them!!
  • When an officer is vain enough to say I don’t care, they should automatically be liable to pay out of their pay for any lawsuits that come of the situation. They’re use to citizens paying for their mistakes
  • He was pulled out because this vet didn’t lick the cop’s boots. It’s their way of bullying and exerting power over citizens that don’t kiss their asses.
  • Like you said this is why there is a disconnect with the public and the police. Their ego over the law.
  • EXERCISING OUR RIGHTS IS NOT SUSPICIOUS!
  • Why is he so clearly annoyed by a member of the public exercising his 1st amendment right to free press while he interacts with the officer. Honestly it’s infuriating to see a Public Servant annoyed at a citizen using rights. How unprofessional. Clear conduct unbecoming of an officer. Very rude and unprofessional.
  • You’re a very smart individual the way you manipulated that. You wanted to know so you don’t do that again was a genius move.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
  • Absolutely it was harassment there was no reason to pull him out of the car. That cop knows it anyone who watched this video knows it.
  • We can all clearly see he was butt hurt and wanted to some how gain back power.
  • He asked him to get out of the vehicle because he was hoping the man would refuse so then he could tase him, drag him out, and arrest him. All because he didn’t like the man invoking his 5th amendment rights!
  • Nice job with maintaining your composure while our public servants did not! This is a good example of egotistical tyranny in our cities. They earn the respect the get.
  • This gentleman is lucid, coherent, and makes good points. The officers should be embarrassed by their behavior and their ‘copsplaining’…
  • Isn’t it interesting how they always say “I don’t mind you recording its already being recorded by myself, that officer over there and this officer” what they DON’T tell you, is that you will have to PAY for THEIR recordings and that they will redact anything that shows them acting unlawfully.
  • You can do what you want to but you are gonna stand over there if I tell you to stand over there” ahhh, the double think and speak of a tyrant
  • It’s weird how some cops freak the f*** out if you get out of your vehicle on your own during a traffic stop because of “officer safety” … yet when they want to really assert their authority, they will demand you get out of your vehicle. Cops always tell you they are recording via their body cams, yet they get very defensive and confrontational when you (we) record them, because they only want ONE recorded version of the incident. They can mute their body cams on the spot, lose (delete) the footage when it’s requested. Any cop worth his weight would never, ever mind being recorded during any interaction with a member of the public. Ego should never play a part in how a cop performs his duties.

 

  • Cop got butt hurt do he had to show you who’s in charge. By pulling you out of the vehicle. BTW, never let a public servants to speak to you with an attitude. Especially being a veteran. 12:08 cop “you’re going to stand over there if that’s what I tell you to do”. That should’ve set you off. Law enforcement has no authority over you!
  • So I guess exercising your constitutional rights in the presence of a law enforcement officer is now a form of Defiance , or their absolute favorite saying , Uncooperative….
  • We all know that the driver was pulled out of the vehicle in order for the officer to passively control what the driver’s camera was able to witness.
  • LT has zero authority to tell this free citizen where to freaking stand if he’s not being detained. Absolutely ridiculous behavior.
  • What’s amazing to me is the cop showed Zero respect for the Veteran and treated him like an enemy
  • You go boy all I got to say is BOOOOM . He turned it all around when he asked that supervisor what he did wrong to make the officer feel unsafe.
  • you’re gonna stand right there if that’s what I tell you to do” who do these people think they are? Bloody low lives
  • Just imagine if we could treat cops the way they treat us.
  • “If you wanna go to court on it” That’s the truth right there, they KNOW the justice system is broken and KNOW they have zero accountability. “We do what we want, don’t like it, take it to court where the system will chew you up” “You’ve already filed your complaint” lol, yeah sure he was going to file paperwork on that and start an investigation.
  • 15:22 This is where the “supervisor” misquotes and thus misunderstands the SCOTUS ruling. Police have a wide range of description in where they conduct a traffic stop based on “officer and detained individual safety”. The auditor points out the officer has abused his entrusted authority to use this description as a bully tactic which is not related to officer (or detained individual) safety. It’s a far too common practice which needs to be eliminated in order to regain public trust in law enforcement.
  • Pennsylvania v Mimms says an officer can ask u to step out for “officer safety”. Not just because a cop “feels like it” or “wants u to”.
  • And still none of those Sovereign Citizens with Badges and Guns has given a REASON for why a Docile Law Abiding Citizen made that Supposedly trained and qualified Officer “feel unsafe”, and yet STILL failed to ensure his safety with a pat down. Because it obviously WAS a tactic to instill fear and blind obedience to his Tyranny. It’s also extremely disappointing to see the other two completely ignore their own oaths to the Law and Constitution. Bully with a Badge, afraid the camera is going to document his distain for the Citizens who pay his salary.
  • 15:20 the Corporal said is doesnt matter what he calls it! Oh! I very much DOESNT matter because when that deprivation of rights lawsuit comes and the other cops qualified immunity is on the line the jury will have to decide what a OTHER reasonable officers would have done in that same situation!
  • Cause I wanted to” isn’t a lawful reason to require someone to exit their vehicle. That’s something that is lawful for officer safety but “cause I wanted to” isn’t an officer safety thing.
  • The only reason he was asked to get out was to intimidate him for saying he wasn’t going to answer questions, as his right. That was the only reason.
  • Mimms v PA says they can pull you from the car if they fear for their safety. That’s it. Not because they “feel like it”