If there were No Camera, How would these Georgia Police treat a black man?

This auditor uncovers a big red flag when he  tests a town’s respect for civil rights by:

  • visiting the town hall and issuing a Freedom of Information Request
  • filming in a parking lot and attempting to file a complaint

Viewer Comments:

  • Remember this is being done to someone that knows his rights on a camera. Imagine the things they do to citizens that don’t know their rights off camera.

 

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  • The way they treat him is gross, but what’s really nauseating is how much they squirm at not being able to treat him worse.
  • Props to WJCL for uploading this video at length. Great news agency.

 

  • The guy that integrated cameras into cellphones has done more for civil rights by accident than any politician has done for civil rights on purpose.
  • This is normal behavior and, what is soooo disturbing is how much they want to lock this guy up. This is what the police departments do all across the US and cell phones have documented their behavior for everyone to see.
  • to the lady in the office, 10/10 you deserve a promotion. FAULTLESS.

How it should have gone down.
Caller: There’s a stranger in the parking lot.
Police: what’s the problem?
Caller: He’s videotaping.
Police: That’s not a crime.
Caller: But it’s creepy.
Police: That’s not a crime either. Call us back when you actually see a crime committed.

 

  • Okay, hear me out. There are so many of these videos here on Youtube. Always the same exact scenario where the cop throws a fit about a guy with a camera doing absolutely nothing illegal. I’m just an old washed up dart player but I even know what you can and cannot do with a camera and I would even know, depending on what state you live in that you can’t demand ID from someone who is doing nothing wrong. So basically WTF is wrong with all these cops? Is it an ego thing? I definitely feel like the Chief is the type who feels he is above the law. “His parking lot” over and over. First of all, it’s not “his” parking lot. He doesn’t own it and works for the people. This shit pisses me off! Cops apparently need MUCH better training than they have now.

 

  • It seems like a common theme with all of these videos, the police demand and overstep and when the auditor shows their knowledge the cop doesn’t usually correct themselves. They usually always try to stick to their wrong argument. It only makes it worse for them, it makes them look like they have massive egos.
  • All across the United States, police departments are getting educated. It is just a shame that the public has to do it.

 

  • like others have said, if they’ll act like this in front of someone who verbally told them he’s a JOURNALIST with a camera in their face, imagine what they do/how they act towards other people off camera
  • The guy that integrated cameras into cellphones has done more for civil rights by accident than any politician has done for civil rights on purpose.
  • When your an officer who is following the law, you have no issue identifying yourself even on camera. An officer who is required to identify to the public and doesn’t knows they have done something wrong. Go above him and have him fired.
  • Wow….I’m in law enforcement and this was hard to watch. Definitely on the side of the cameraman here, who knew his stuff and carried himself with dignity. The police were terrible- ignorant and worse, likely deliberately obstructive. And yes, they absolutely were bullies. If they had just behaved like the city clerk, (professionally) probably none of us would be watching this video. Very sad….
  • This type of behavior from a public employee is terrifying and dangerous, public employees are funded by citizens but yet they try to bully us around and talk to us like that, completely disgusting for a police chief. If corporate showed up at my job and I acted like this in front of them I would no longer have a job… Completely shameful to your own family and to your country.

 

  • “My employees”, “my parking lot”, and “my building”. That’s what the so called Chief said. He needs to understand absolutely none of that belongs to him! The staff are public servants and the property belongs to the people!
  • I’ve lost count how many times I’ve had similar experiences from small town police officers. It’s plainly evident why so much public trust has been eroded in regards to law enforcement.
  • I was in the army and ive seen what bad leadership ruin a platoon of soldiers. Your right about it starting from the top and bleeding down into the rest. I cant stand cops like this and it gets me so angry watching these videos that my hands start to shake. I give you alot of credit for handling this so smoothly and professionally. I hope this is updated with a good happy video. These guys are crazy.

 

  • I’m from Savannah, Ga 20 mins away and we don’t messed with Pooler police they are rude and have nasty behavior. Imagine not knowing the laws and how many ppl they arrested over stupid stuff.

 

  • Thank you for doing this it’s hard here in georgia. People need to see this stuff.Its awful, people can be taken into custody here without warrants or cause and no due process and any atonney you get charges more than you can afford to get the legal help you need and they are on the same payroll if they are pro bono. The DOJ hasn’t the time to deal with individual cases of civil rights violations outside prison walls.So any entity of law enforcement can go unchecked on taking advantage of people or their families here in georgia
  • I live in Pooler and can absolutely confirm these guys are an egotistical bunch
  • This is why I moved out of Georgia. The corruption in the southeast part of Georgia is insane. Long County, Liberty County is worse then this. And for the Pooler Police Chief to act in this manner is grounds for immediate termination with charges of violating civil rights while under oath.
    • Turner County Georgia was a known speed trap for years. I think they finally got caught
  • This is basically most small towns in the US. “My parking lot” “My lobby” “My building” as the Chief of Police says. and they get away with it day in and day out. Its disgraceful
  • It’s unprofessionalism and ignorance from the top down. You can tell there is a lot of unlawful things going around in the city of Pooler. This is disgusting
  • How do cops still not know when they can or can’t request ID. Seems like basics for their job.
    • They know, they just don’t want the public to know… It is best to learn the law’s for your County, City and state. I have I am in Georgia and know this fact! Those clowns need to be investigated!!!!!
  • Accepting his own compliant then decides for himself he can just make it invalid ? That’s tyranny in every sense. Update ?
  • This type of behavior from a public employee is terrifying and dangerous, public employees are funded by citizens but yet they try to bully us around and talk to us like that, completely disgusting for a police chief. If corporate showed up at my job and I acted like this in front of them I would no longer have a job… Completely shameful to your own family and to your country.
  • I was in the army and ive seen what bad leadership ruin a platoon of soldiers. Your right about it starting from the top and bleeding down into the rest. I cant stand cops like this and it gets me so angry watching these videos that my hands start to shake. I give you alot of credit for handling this so smoothly and professionally. I hope this is updated with a good happy video. These guys are crazy.
  • Good thing you’re recording them because they probably would’ve been a lot more aggressive with you thanks for doing this
  • The chief looked like he wanted to beat the crap out of him! Thank the camera. I feel bad for his wife when he gets home 🤕
  • It’s unprofessionalism and ignorance from the top down. You can tell there is a lot of unlawful things going around in the city of Pooler. This is disgusting

 

  • The scary part of all of this is when we realize that these people write reports on people that a judge reads in a court of law.
  • That cop with the glasses knew where this was going and wanted no part of it lol
  • I love how cops try to make people do as they say simply because they have that uniform. Cops like this bring such shame to their title.
  • It sickens me that public servants allow that police are trained to bully and not to obey constitutional law and rights of those they serve
  • I love to watch cops search for a reason to get you to comply… First they say you can’t be here, then they say it’s private property, then they tell you it’s trespassing, then they try to tell you you can’t film into restricted areas from public. Watching you shoot down everyone of their attempts is hilarious. Really makes our cops look inept
    • dont forget this one….’YOUR MAKING PEOPLE UNCOMFORTABLE’
  • I hate how they always demand ID, often for no reason even when they KNOW they are dealing with someone who either knows the law or chooses to enforce their constitutional right.
  • That is pretty crazy. Would not believe law enforcement believes they can legally do that to a law abiding citizen. What a shame.
  • This is why auditors are so important. 💕
  • Watch an actual boatload of these in the UK. Knowing what we do about US pigs, big up to you, man. UK auditors would never have left the building, but I totally understand why you would in America. Before you know it, we’d have a body bag, a lost camera, no body worn camera footage, and an F-ton of lies. Respect. 👊❤
  • The city clerk and both security guards know more about constitutional law and rights, than the ones who swore an oath to protect those very same rights.
  • “This is the public lobby, you’re gonna kick me out of the public lobby too, chief?” That part was so funny to me. 😂
  • Utterly pathetic behavior! They’re supposed to be “law” enforcement, not “feelings” enforcement.
  • As much as I think this guy on camera is being a pain in the ass, at the same time, I appreciate that we have rights in this country and law enforcement officers are public servant who have to obey the laws themselves and follow the protocols.
  • “We need backup immediately, this guy keeps talking about his rights”
  • Without taking this to court. NOTHING will happen or change.
  • Did they get away with bullying you? That’s at least debatable. It depends on, if you let them get away. There should be a follow up. Like you said, go above the Chiefs head. Ok, excellent job on the video, overall. Just one small note, the guards from the court house, didn’t treat you the same as everyone else. They held you up, from your Right, even if it was just for a short moment.
  • Notice his he said “get out of ‘my’ parking lot.” It’s because that’s how he sees it he believes that’s ”his” building “his” employees when really it’s “our” parking lot and “our” building that’s a big part of the problem
  • Don’t assume the mayor doesn’t go along with this. The citizens of Pooler have to push back against the mayor and City Council and anyone else who approves the appointments to City positions.
  • ugh, these cops are so ignorant and power hungry. love to the auditors for taking the time to educate cop gangs. I pray the auditors get law representation to gain awareness and better protection. I blame the us Supreme Court for ruling cops don’t actually have to know the law they enforce at the point of a gun and gang behavior.
  • i love how much they back down and run away when they realise you know your rights
  • Whilst I can understand the frustration of those officers, they really do need to be up to date in what is and is not allowable under the law. They looked chumps as they were in the wrong.
  • Guy says – “I am just an employee here.”, but he is wearing a badge on his belt. They don’t issue badges to “just employees”. Only sworn officers receive badges.
    •  @Kirk Callender  I thought that too but he gave his name and badge number when asked then later took the badge off. I’m pretty sure he lied.
    •  @Fly Over Radio  Exactly what I was gonna say. He gave his name and number and identified as a policeman. If he wasn’t then why was he surrounding him with the other cops? Seems like he knows police intimidation tactics/practices.
  • These are the kind of thuggish cops which you encounter regularly in these types of jurisdictions. The local citizens are typically afraid to stand up to them since this is, quite frankly, all they know.
  • He investigated himself and found he did nothing wrong! Think…if they treated a law abiding citizen like this, how do they treat suspects?
  • These “tough guys” are the same cowards who run AWAY from danger.
  • Would like to see your complaints being addressed by the Mayor!
  • The lady in the office should be the Police Chief.
  • I’ve been robbed, assaulted, publicly harassed, crashed into, threatened with guns, etc. Never once did the police catch any of the people who did these things, unless it required the absolute minimum effort because the person who crashed into me totaled their car. Conversely, I’ve been harassed & intimidated by police semi-regularly throughout my life -just because they were bored & feeling the need to bully. The only time I met a nice officer was when my mom was dating him when I was a kid. Thus to me, the vast majority of cops are lazy/incompetent and the rest are bullies.
  • Im 60 and every interaction I’ve had with Police has been a difficult one throughout my life. Ive always been treated like a criminal every time… Trying to acuse me of things i haven’t done or downright lying to me for no reasons at at. No benefit to anyone, just an excuse to stand over and intimidate me because im an ugly man…if i was a blonde woman with a lovely face it would be completely different.
  • It’s never “one or two bad apples”. Corrupt and outright evil policing either starts at the top, or is stopped from there.
  • Cops never say the full text: A few bad apples “spoil the whole barrel”.
  • The cameras just changes the games. Without a camera this guy will be on jail.
  • 13:21 “How do I file the complaint if I can’t get into the building?” Damn that’s helllla funny
  • “I’m a police officer. I asked you for your ID. I need you to give me your ID.” The correct response is: “I’m a citizen. I haven’t done anything wrong. I need you to kick rocks.”
  • The shame of it is the city attorney said they acted appropriately. The chief and locals also say they acted appropriately. The locals are probably terrified to do anything because they’ll be arrested
    • Pooler is just out side of Savannah where I lived for over 20 years and everyone knows that the Pooler police will write tickets for the most minor and insignificant infractions. For example, there was a women giving a ticket for driving while distracted because while she sat at a red light she took one hand off the steering wheel to take a bite of a sandwich.
    • So the City attorney agreed that it was proper for the Sgt. to demand ID with no RAS, that it was legal to trespass him out of the parking lot, that it was proper to restrict his access to city services because he was recording, that he was required to identify himself in a public complaint, that it was proper for the Sgt. to accept the complaint on his superior officer? Are you sure he was really an attorney or maybe he just plays one on TV? I guess he will have a second crack at these question in court. As Mr. T would say, “I pity the fool.”
  • They have been doing this for so long and getting away with it.
  • I’m Black, so if l went in there, l probably wouldn’t be able to leave for about 15 to years…..
  • Imagine how they treat the prisoners
  • I like how men with guns and tasers always say someone’s making them feel uncomfortable 😂😂
  • Officers took an oath to uphold their State and Federal Constitutions, which means affirming the constitutionally protected rights of US citizens. The law-abiding citizen has no obligation to provide ID under such circumstances, it is the police who have to jump over the legal hurdles such as reasonable suspicion and probable cause to detain, ask for ID, or arrest. I developed training on this for officers as far back as 2014, even then officers did not like the idea of having limited power in such situations. Ego maybe? Unfortunately, more training and regular training are needed nationwide in this area, which would save a lot of grief, embarrassment, and tax dollars. This was an unnecessary power struggle between the officers, the Chief, and the filmer. Regardless of the filmer’s true intentions, his rights should be affirmed. The fact that the police are called, that someone doesn’t like the filmer lawfully being there, doesn’t override the filmer’s constitutional rights. Once the filmer’s lawful status is determined, they should be free to carry on, without interference.
  • I can only imagine what these small town cops do to people . That is a real bad State a Canadian woman was arrested her car towed and she was put in jail. The small town cop who didn’t know that Canadians are allowed to drive in the USA with there Canadian drivers license just like Americans are allowed to drive in Canada with there US license
  • Q: Are your a detective, or a sergeant? A: I’m just an employee, man. An employee who is fronting with a badge on his hip, and previously gave his badge number … “just an employees” don’t have badges. Dude was definitely a detective, and lied … though, ironically, it’s legal for the police to lie.
  • the “employee” with the beard and glasses is just as guilty as the sergeant and the chief by his omission to act. he witnessed the behaviour of the sergeant and the chief and was complicit in their actions. he probably knows that the chief and the sergeant are a pair of idiots and thought no way am i getting involved with this. he`s the type of guy that disappears in a bar room brawl.
  • I understand why and what you are doing and strongly believe doing so is an important audit of public employees. If you want to report on this unconstitutional behavior it is my opinion it would be much better done without the descriptive editorializing (“tyrant, Bully, making fun of someone’s name) which reduces the effectiveness of the reporting and appears childish. This audit work is important yet diminished in it’s reporting by this.
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This Is What Happens When Cops Get Their Feelings Hurt | This Guy Was Ready!

Courts need to start doing something about these dirty cops. He had every right to flip that cop off that goes to show he’s dirty because he was going to ticket him for that it’s not against the law. Are these people trained in law at all ? 😱
It’s like they’re thinking “if the public hates us, well we’ll just go give ’em another reason to hate us then”
I expect a ARMED police officer to be “cool” and “adult” enough to ignore gestures like that.
Freedom of speech is so paramount to the foundation of this nation that our founders wrote it down first. I may not agree with how some choose to express that right, but I support their right to express it!
Police in New York are on notice that flipping the middle finger (“one-finger salute”) at a cop is protected speech and a constitutional right that’s “clearly established” … meaning they get no “qualified immunity” for pulling a car over in response to getting the bird — aka digitus impudicus — from the motorist. See Swartz v. Insogna 704 F. 3d 105 – Court of Appeals, 2nd Circuit, 2013.
The cop needs a reason to get his ID, but the he doesn’t need to articulate that reason to the driver. And I believe that’s a problem. I think police should be required to verbalize the actual statute (section/paragraph/text) that was allegedly broken before he compels identification.
It’s sad how law enforcement has become, even the retired cops frown on these new ones, no integrity, retaliation against the public,
So the officer chose to pull him over illegally and unlawfully detain him for something that was not a crime. Is it being a dick? Yes. But not a crime. Unfortunately if your ego is so easily hurt that you have to violate somebody’s right and break the law yourself to make sure they knew that your ego is hurt, maybe you should not be wearing that badge!
Why do ALL these sovereign citizens dress the same way? “You flipped me off and that’s not normal.” He’s right. We need to normalize it.
There is reasonable suspicion, and then then there is only one other kind in this context. It is quite unlawful to detain anybody for anything less than a reasonable suspicion of a violation of the law. There are circumstances where I’d get verbally offensive with a cop but the only good way to be is to try to not aggravate public servants, cops included. This cop was wrong to detain finger man but he at least didn’t escalate into a deeper abuse of authority. Imagine the police facing a population that knew how to calmly and succinctly stand for their rights at every encounter, and too smartly file complaints at every abuse of authority.
As always, Thank You for a very informative. Serious question, Do you think that the majority of the officers that act this way are in hopes of you not knowing your rights or are they so dumb that they have no idea that we even have rights. I know an officer that made this statement, “ a sovereign citizen has no rights. You can literally treat them anyway that you want to “ this comment was made sitting around a card table with plenty alcohol and some special ingredient peanut butter cookies. All in which this officer was partaking , He said more stupid stuff that night, I just can’t recall anything else right now .
He should have said “so you stopped me for freedom of speech?” I’d also add “I’ll make sure to cite that in the lawsuit and criminal complaint.”
The officer admitted he illegally stopped the citizen– the chief should immediately suspend him and make sure he gets educated on civil rights and Supreme Court rulings. This officer is a clear danger to the citizens of the town or city he works for. Very sad that this is how bad law enforcement has become.
If the driver was not recording these cops would have really messed with this dude. Flipping cops off is not the brightest thing to do. They’ll now be on the lookout for this dude just to screw with him.
You mentioned being “Trained to violate the rights of citizens” nor being trained in the law. This is one of the reasons most police departments will not hire someone with an IQ above 125. If you score too high on certain tests, it shows that you may be too smart to be an officer. No offense intended, but sadly they want to hire drones and robots, not intelligent humans who might question authority and the tactics of modern police departments. It’s just sad.

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Cops arrested him for filming in public, but things took a bizarre turn when the case went to court

 

The arrest of a Texas cop watcher for filming in public is the most recent chilling example of how law enforcement across the country is attempting to roll back auditors’ First Amendment rights. Jack Miller, also known as Texas Sheepdog, was filming outside the Olmos Park, Texas, City Hall when police arrested and charged him with multiple crimes. The ensuing five-day trial and jury verdict reveal that citizens’ ability to film in public is facing new obstacles and concerted pushback from the government.

 

 

He should have immediately filed an appeal and had his sentence stayed a federal judge would have looked at that video and put a halt to the entire sentence
Assault on a Police Officer? He never touched them. Or Is hurting their fragile feelings by cursing at them a Federal Offense?
Maybe if the police stopped making frivolous arrest, they wouldn’t have to worry about charges being dropped. The police need to know and understand the law!
…Let me get this straight. He went out to film a PSA about not threatening cops, only to have the cops brutally assault him trying to help cops. The Irony in this story is off the charts. 📈🤦🏿
It would be interesting to hear the jury instructions. Should be appealed.
I have to believe that that jury had no idea what they were doing I saw nothing of what they charged him with.
This is a prime example of how our justice system is not about right or wrong but about money and power and ego’s
I’m surprised they aren’t drug testing you twice per day! (They charge you $30.00 each time!) Its a money racket… Financial extortion! Probation is far worse than serving the time … (Never accept probation!) – Michael B. Saari for Michigan State Senate 2022
He needs to get himself a lawyer who knows what the law is. Being a retired lawyer I cannot believe that he was convicted
how in the hell did a trial get the majority of the the jurors to have a guilty plea? it is SUPER clear to me that he wasnt resisting, and VERY clear that he did not attack a police officer and the fact that it was a toy gun not an actual fire arm means how did they tack on a fire arm charge with no fire arm? this sounds EXTREMLY fishy to me ( meaning like corruption )
>> Yeah, the gun charges got me as well… isn’t this in an open carry state and that was a toy rifle SLUNG over his back? Not very menacing.
Weaponized law enforcement. Imagine that.
I’m wondering how a jury can find you guilty of resisting arrest when there was no crime committed. Resisting arrest is a secondary charge. I would say I want another jury trial with new jury members, as seeing as those jurors must be incredibly incompetent. There was no crime to begin with, so how was resisting arrest of a crime that was never committed? 2nd Amendment? That’s not a crime. Blocking a pathway? Didnt see him blocking anyone. And assault on a peace officer!?!?!? Where in this video does it show this man lay a single finger on these cops!?!?!?!? Except maybe he pulled away from them when THEY TRIED TO GRAB HIM!!! And they tackled him to the ground, pulled his arm behind his back essentially breaking it to where he needed surgery 2 days later, hes laying there crying in pain, and they charged him with Assault on a peace officer!?!?!? Get the fuck outta here dude!!! So even though he had a fake gun (Even if real, we still have 2nd amendment), was not blocking a single person on the sidewalk, didnt commit a crime at all, and was the one brutally tackled to the ground and had his arm broken, he is still somehow found guilty on all charges? What video did these jurors see, because I see the complete opposite of these charges. Once again, to recap… Fake Gun, blocking no one’s movement, didnt lay a single finger on either of those cops, no crime committed, and being the victim of assault and battery and hes still charged with disorderly (Possibly Brandishing with intent to harm), blocking pathway, assault on peace officer, and resisting arrest!?!?!?!?!? What kind of a system are we in where we find our fellow man guilty at the hands of the corrupts crimes? I’m scared to live in this society. I dont want today’s corruption and abuse to be my future….

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Officer Makes Up Laws To Enforce

 

I would imagine the police underestimated this guy because of the way he talks.

 

Agreed, if auditors are not willing to follow up with legal action then the encounter seems to be nothing more than indulging personal ego.

 

With that voice He could easily play a character in family guy.

 

Sometimes I think “if you just stop challenging these idiots…” But then I remember if someone doesn’t have the balls to challenge them, they’re control could turn bad in the future
Uhm, if our bases/installations have “military secrets” that can clearly be seen from a public sidewalk outside the checkpoint, then I think we have big problems.
The most hilarious part…
Auditor: “You can’t detain someone for over 30 minutes who hasn’t committed a crime “.
Sergeant: “Can you be more specific “?
 @rbeck3200tb40  the difference with the entrance to a military camp is reconnaissance where to mortor a bomb where an advantage point is to shoot to kill… their are tons of reasons why.. Im very security aware after serving in Northern Ireland, operation banner. Maybe read up on that and you might ger my point. 👍🇬🇧
 @Jonathan Galloway  it shows in the Video exactly why that’s irrelevant. People can and do target strikes using publicly available mapping, like Google maps.
I love this guy’s voice. Literally the most unintimidating voice I have EVER heard.
I love how demanding cops are about showing them respect but when a civilian is talking to them they either jump on their radio or talk over them it’s an obvious Fu to the person who is speaking why do cops expect more respect than they give to people
I happen to stumble across your channel n immediately began binge watching you. The way you’re completely unbiased for one side and the other. You break down the videos with accurate information. Also have perfected explaining exactly if either side was right or wrong in a way everyone could understand, even if they no nothing about your rights or laws. Every Citizen and police officer need to watch these videos so they both can either protect themselves, or if they’re a cop, respect and honor people rights and the law.

 

All law enforcement should have a mandatory 2 year course on the Constitution before they can be working the streets.
I’m going to learn how to talk like this auditor because it requires the listener to pay very close attention.
I think if anyone knows they may get hassled for what they are going to do, they should have laws readily at hand, on phone or hard copy. Also, there should never be detainment without absolute knowledge of the exact laws on hand also. I’m sure there could be an app constructed for this. It would save alot of confusion, time, and lawsuit money, to say the least.
Military member here: regs only apply to US military personnel. The rest of it is irrelevant. Public viewing is public viewing. SSgt whatever his name is isn’t military personnel. That’s a contractor. Probably prior service, but outside the gate MPs have limited authority especially in respect to civilians.
I just want the guy to say reasonable, articulable suspicion a few more times.
This was a great one. I, like other viewers assumed this was going to be a failure once the auditor started speaking, but man, he was very impressive! Stayed calm and knew what he was talking about, brilliant stuff from him
As you watch these videos, there is a consistent theme across the U.S. that our law enforcement personnel are often poorly educated about state and federal law and many don’t have the calm demeanor necessary to interact with the public. We do a very bad job in hiring and training our law enforcement personnel at all levels of government. I have seen this first hand as I have worked in public safety for 20 years and as a forensic investigator for many years. There are certainly many good people working as sworn officers, but overall, their knowledge of the law and the constitution is very poor. The training required to become a sworn officer is fairly minimal in most jurisdictions and although there are law/constitutional components, the amount of education in these areas is very minimal. We dictate the training requirements and types of hiring practices when we elect our politicians. We control the entire process, but have not done a very good job at keeping people accountable. There definitely needs to be changes to the training and hiring practices, but I fear this will not happen as everything is so political and there is a great deal of power in the unions. Politicians don’t want to upset the unions and therefore we can’t get real reforms done.
I wish the cops that leave a thumbs down would realize there are more of us, citizens that demand they honor their oaths and protect our constitutional rights, than there are of them. Their arrogance, ignorance and egos are taking them down a very dangerous path. They need to change their behavior because we are watching and the citizens are catching on to their tyrannical behavior.

>> Like many, I demand that cops submit to the authority of The Rule of Law.

>>  @Mr Free1  That is because the job is so terrible that only the idealistic or the desperate will even apply for the job. After a few years, the idealistic become cynical and leave for more attractive opportunities. That leaves the desperate losers behind. They would be failing at any pursuit in life. And, they keep screwing up with policing.
I love when I learn new stuff… you pointing out that police dont actually need to give you the legal reason they have detained you is good to know. This is unbelievable to me and is used as a way to protect police. It allows them to go back to the station, spend a couple hours discussing it, and then come up with a reason AFTER THE FACT on why they detained someone. This should be mandatory, just like Miranda rights being read to someone being arrested.
Being ex military I understand why they’re on edge but I signed up to protect America and the rights afforded to Americans.
Detective Mitchel gets an A+, he was clearly remorseful that an incident like this had happened.
2:02 … “is that the law or just something you’re saying?” hilarious
Question, isn’t calling for back up a form of swarming when an officer feels mentally out numbered?
12:40 this is why people despise law enforcement… you can lie and cheat to “do the right thing” “rid the world of evil” or whatever rational used to justify the immoral actions but the US citizen is right and the fact that law enforcement does not have to state their justification until they can figure it out later is one of the biggest loopholes in the system.
May true justice prevail and may the Lord Jesus Christ bless all those with Knowledge and Understanding of Love and Truth. Thank you Father for guarding and guiding those who put their life on the line to protect others who they do not know. Thank you Father for opening their eyes to the deception of their reality and their unwanted consequences of becoming “the accuser of brethren.” May they respect the rights granted to us and not use the legal system to violate people’s freedom. Thank you for keeping them safe in your hands Father to do thy will. Repent for the kingdom is at hand!
I remember watching this video. Classic policy vs law dispute. Letter is just a piece of paper. The detective is an idiot. He is trying to de escalate to stop the auditor from suing, he knows the guy in back of the car was wronged.
These people are tyrants. That detective released him once he saw he was detained but refused to admit they were at fault. Not surprised.
 @Brett Symons  Well, a guy like that can only sue if the officer(s) violate his constitutional or state rights and actually give him a cause to sue. If our law enforcement officers stay knowledgeable of the particular laws and regulations they’re charged to enforce and operate within the scope of their authority these auditors would have nothing to publish and no grounds to sue. Just as some police officers say “innocent people don’t run“, innocent officers have nothing to fear from a recording device. Always do what’s legal, always do what’s right.
The DHS memo of 2010/2018 refers to federal sites protected by DHS/FPS which are federal buildings with level 1- level 4 with all level 5 sites having their own full federal police agencies as security and the memo does not apply to military sites which the FPS does not protect. Auditors need to do their homework and brush up on the laws governing military bases as these tend to be the types of audits that run into being detained, even when it appears that auditors are not on military property.
The detective knew he could not win the argument so he bolted.
Love how the guy at the end looked like my 15 yo when I confront him when the guy was making sense but the second he made a mistake about the officers having to explain why they detained him the officer regained composure and his cockiness shot way up. His body language, eye contact, tone, everything completely changes when his ego gets a bump from being able to correct someone.
Regardless of who was right or wrong in what ways it amuses me to see the mentality of these people on open display like this.
Boy, this Staff Sargent is misguided. Makes it up as he goes.

>> Beve Smith There is a chance he believed what he is saying. He is probably repeating something he heard or was told and did no further research.

How could/should have I handeled my most recent contact with a cop?
4 to 5 years ago I fell while riding my bicycle back from a MacDonalds. I clipped a curb and fell. A Warren, Michigan cop saw this and pulled up. In fairness, he first asked me if I was ok. I said “yes” not knowing until later that I had actually fractured a rib. It should have ended then but it did not. I was “asked” to get into his patrol car. I did so. Then I was asked to show my Michigan photo ID. I did so. The cop detained me for over half an hour before he finally let me go. I walked my bike back to my house as the pain had grown.
I did not seek treatment for my fractured rib and very glad that the cop did not call for an ambulance which I could not afford for such a minor injury. I had no objection to identifying myself and showing my photo ID. Yet this boy cop in his 20s lorded it over me at my age then of 61 or 62 in spite of my total compliance.
If I had remained silent that cop may have arrested me for suspicious behavior of remaining silent. Years later I saw a video of Philando Castile being shot for obeying a cop’s order to produce his driver’s license.
I used to think the percentage of bad cops were under 5. Now I believe it to be over 50. Petty bureaucrats with badges and guns are not petty. I cooperated fully. I have never owned more than a pellet gun when I was a kid. I did have to shoot a 45 during my 3-year voluntary stint in the Navy.
I don’t want to die for some frivolous cause. And the next time I come in contact with the police holding my hands straight up will not guarantee that some boy with a hero complex won’t shoot me just because he can. That cop never asked me to raise my hands up but if he had I wonder if the pain would have prevented me from hold up my left arm.
So what do I do next time? I live in a safe part of town. I fear the cops more than the criminals so far.
What can I do to prevent my life from being taken by some boy with a badge while not giving in to the intimidation?

 

Hey, does anyone remember the obligation for the general public to adhere to military regulations?
Yeah, me either.

 

I was in Hanoi, Vietnam, taking pictures of an army base, police station, Ho Chi Minh’s tomb, museums, etc. And had no problems at all until I went by the US embassy, when someone immediately came out and said I couldn’t photograph any part of the building. So much for Democratic rights trumping Communism

 

Detective Mitchell did a good job shutting up when he realized his partners didn’t know what the hell they were talking about. Good job protecting your goonies, pal.

 

A military regulation is enforceable on a Civilian? Since when?

 

slacker2310 they’re taught wrong. Unless you’re on their property

 

slacker2310 we can film anything we can see. You can’t trespass the eyes. If they don’t want it filmed. Build a wall around it. You do realize I can get a pic of any installation and entry points on the internet.

 

One of the things that frustrate me about auditors is that they never seem to articulate the change that needs to occur. They simply highlight what was wrong that happened and say things like “you just need to not do that” that’s not how it works. We need change. A prerequisite for change is a specifically defined policy or training program.

For example, these officers need to be specifically trained on the differences between regulation and statute, and need to be made aware that they cannot use things like “Congressional letters” to enforce a law that isn’t written in a piece of legislation.

If these officers knew that, they may not have detained this individual.

 

 

I was a gate guard in El Paso for a few months and if this happened to me, I can assure you that alot of the daily people working at the gates would have Nooooo idea about the laws. This dude was going there for a free check. I hate this kind of video because it just shows that you can pray on ignorant individuals who don’t fully know the law
I think his voice is great. It sounds more to me like maybe someone with hearing issues/cochlear implant rather than a Gump-like issue
I really dont think there was “bad” intentions on the part of the police on this particular incident. I think this is the fault of how insanely freaking confusing the law, legislation, statute, etc. is made for these cops. It’s very hard to comprehend.
When I went through boot camp in 03, I remember them saying something about being able to stop people taking pictures of ships or bases and stuff like that if they were looking suspicious and off base (not that I was in a position where I would have ever been the one detaining anyone here on US soil). I will say however some of the briefings for what to do if you did find someone on base who wasn’t supposed to be there usually included detaining them, calling the MP’s and then they drive him off base and maybe trespass them or something in most cases.
It should be a law that police officers must give you very specific reasons as to why they are detaining you. That could change the outcome of many many police encounters. Many people in many videos end up losing their cool due to cops not answering any of their questions. I would agree that would be incredibly frustrating. Passing a law like that could help defuse some of those situations
10:00 when they realize they might have a lawsuit on their hands…
I follow him. Is one of my favorite auditors. Great audit of the audit
That detective was holding back some anger at the end there.
“As soon as I saw that you were being detained I released you” – Yeah, except he didn’t detain himself. The reason you saw him being detained is because he was being detained.
Lmao when the detective talks about freedom of information act and the dudes like “I’ve done them before” of course he has 😂
“Deleted their photos…” That’s not a problem anymore. Immediately upload any photos and videos to the cloud. Problem solved.
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