Police Gives Ticket for 10% over Speed Limit without knowing the Speed Limit

Police Refuse to Accept they were Wrong:

Police must get ID, even if stop was unwarranted

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Cop: you’re speeding!
Driver: whats the speed limit here?
Cop: I don’t know.
The cop doesn’t know the speed on the road but he knows he was speeding 🤦🤣
He didn’t know what the speed limit was but he was sure that he was going 10% faster than what he didn’t know. Huh?
Claiming he was going 10% over the posted speed limit is pretty specific when the officer didn’t know what the posted speed limit was.
10% over the speed limit? For 2-2.5 mph over the speed limit? Wow!

Another officer, a Sgt no less, who believes he can stop anyone he wants to anytime he wants to just to check their ID!! This is crazy! Auditors are def making a difference by educating citizens about their rights, but sometimes it seems like the officers are getting WORSE!

 

The driver was not guessing his speed as the cop inferred. He had it in the screen in front of him. They can pace someone for speeding but the driver is right, they cannot gauge it from sitting still. Cop was mad because he was proven wrong and then the guy knew his rights. Egos in policing is dangerous and deadly!
“I’ll LET you go.” Mighty fine of him to let him go esp. since he committed no crime. Tyrants!
I really believe the cops are gaming the public with you must show ID even if there is no violation. That many cops can’t be that misinformed. What I think is happening is its a nation wide campaign to keep saying it until the public believes it and then slide it in there and make it an actual law.
The problem is that cops are never wrong, they don’t know how to acknowledge any mistake, infact the opposite happens when they are wrong and get called on it they usually escalate and start manufacturing a crime to justify their wrong doings… Sick….
😀 Dude told the cop “You need to be recalibrated”.🤣🤣🤣. Love it! Great job.
 @Tempus Fugit  That’s a very idealistic point of view. But I’m sorry to inform you that in the real world, the citizen doesn’t often win an argument he insists in having on the side of the road. No I’m no boot licker and I’m no push over. I assure you I’ve made my displeasure and my resistance known in more than one occasion. In the case of this video, the guy lucked out that the cop was pulling the speeding charge out of his ass because he realized he was wrong about the phone and he happened to have gotten caught on the fact that he didn’t know what the speed limit was. AND the supervisor that responded happened to be a reasonable guy and want looking to just jack with a citizen. He made a half-assed attempt to claim they can just stop random drivers to check their drivers license. When it was obvious he wasn’t getting away with it, the supervisor let him go. But I assure you, had the supervisor had his ego as invested as the officer did, that driver would have either coughed up his DL or he would have been a guest of the county for a while. Right wrong or indifferent, it’s up to the cops how that encounter ends. Luckily, he argued his point and the supervisor decided it wasn’t worth it to take it all the way because his guy was wrong. But make no mistake, had he decided to back his officer, he would have been ordered out of the vehicle. Had he refused, he would have been taken out of the vehicle. Just that noncompliance could lead many judges to decide that he was resisting and obstructing by refusing a lawful order to exit. Who knows what he would decide on the citations. But, I’d be willing to bet a judge would find that it was a lawful stop initially because cops are allowed to make a mistake like thinking he was holding his phone. And from there, the officer doesn’t need any justification to ask the driver to exit the vehicle. His refusal to do so buts himself a ride to county. Is that fair? Nope. But it’s not up to you or the driver to declare it an unlawful stop or to decide when it became decided that he had made an error about the phone. His resistance in such an excessive manner could be seen by the judge as reasonable suspicion to continue investigating. It all depends on how the judge interprets his actions and the actions of the officer. But it seems like you’re if the mindset that any time a citizen believes he hadn’t committed the infraction he was stopped for that he can then lawfully defy lawful orders based on his belief that they’re unlawful due to his belief that he didn’t commit the infraction. Doesn’t work that way. If it did, everybody would just say “no I wasn’t speeding. Wasn’t me. “. And then the cop has to say “ok maybe it wasn’t you. I guess there’s nothing else I can do since you say you didn’t do it. Have a nice day”. As much as that would be awesome, it’s just not realistic and would make it impossible for cops to do anything. Bottom line, the guy rolled the dice and hit so was able to leave. He just as easily could have crapped out and had his day turn south real quick. You’re free to roll those dice too, of course. But if you think you’re going to win every time in a situation like that, you’re crazy. Not saying the cop was in the right or would have been to arrest him. He was just following policy which I guarantee states that he woulda had done explaining to do if he’d made a stop and didn’t even get the guys DL. Don’t like that policy? Fine. Petition your elected officials to try n get it changed. Aside from that, the cop is going to insist on that DL every time
If a officer wants to violate your rights he is forsure going to do so, this is why I’d say allow him to violate your rights and record it so you will have all the evidence you need because if we don’t hold them accountable then it’s only going to get worse.
My opinion is the supervisor knew this stop could go sideways and get crazy. The time and effort in making this man show id will be more problematic then its worth and this driver was committed to standing his ground. Cop was professional and explained his opinion well but needs to stop the crack addiction. ( ID ) that is.
Cops saying “I’m not gonna argue with you,” is cop speak for: I know I’m wrong, but I’m a cop and I’ll do what the fuck I want, and if you want to pursue it, I have qualified immunity so I’ll be just fine.
I would have pointed out that there was no way he would know if you were speeding if he didn’t know what the speed limit was in the first place.
The supervisor didn’t know the law either, as he said that it was legal to ask to see the drivers license, but at least he let the man drive off after having lost a much too long time for nothing due to a lying LEO not knowing the law (as usual)
Looking at this cop should communicate what’s driving him is far more than fabricating a traffic violation to check for warrants.
So the supervisor thinks we live in 1030’s Nazi Germany? That’s basically what he’s saying when he said they can stop anyone to verify driver’s license’s. Sorry buddy but you’re flat out incorrect at the highest level!
This was an honest mistake by the supervisor. He accidentally thought he was in Nazi Germany and could demand papers at any time.

THIS IS THE DEAL .
“I placed him in handcuffs”
“Why?
“Safety”
“What was the safety concern?”
“He was resisting”
“What was he resisting?”
“Being placed in handcuffs” FBLG💩👮‍♂ & F👢L

 

 

At the end of the day ; coppa needs to make a ticket , to reach his quota – IMO . DISGRACEFUL.
The really scary part is the “supervisor” thinks they can pull anybody over for ZERO reasons ! American Police thinking on full display
The officer said I can’t dispute your truth, which means he has nothing and he should just let you go, that’s exactly what that means
perfect handling of a common police harassment

Very Polite Auditor Dismisses Multiple Officers

 

“You know what, I made a mistake and you are right you can be here” said no cop ever. And they wonder why there is a disconnect.

 

She is 100% correct. The actual “checkpoint “ begins where an I.D. must be presented. Everything else is either a queue or an exit aisle-way. Those airport police just walking past without so much as a glance in her direction, let alone an apology, is proof positive of their immature egos.

 

It is so baffling to these types when people don’t comply with whatever they say. They truly think that if they say something, anything, everything, it must be met with compliance or you are just being difficult.
He “literally” was pulling stuff out of his A. “Those are cautionary signs.” WTF is that?
The second cop didn’t even speak to her. He just beckoned her to follow like she was a puppy. Both cops just stalked off without mentioning she was right, it was ok to do what she was doing. I admire her for keeping her cool while standing her ground.
It’s the “bully” playbook 101. They are so used to just telling people what to do and people blindly following their directives….that they blow a fuse when someone stands up to them….they just keep repeating themselves. That’s why people like this woman are often deemed “difficult” or “a problem”….They HATE the fact that some people actually realize most of what comes out of their mouths is fabricated.
Authority when lawfully and effectively challenged will take one of two directions One is very confused and walks away and Two become violent and force their will upon the person questioning their false authority.
“You are arguing semantics.” This is a complete miss use of the word. Semantics is the study of meaning, more specifically it is the study of how LANGUAGE gives proper meaning. So when an officer says, “you are arguing semantics” the reply might be “are you saying, the law doesn’t MEAN what it says.”
This is a perfect example of “Too many people, with nothing to do”!! A woman with a camera should not even be a problem.. They definitely need to cut about half of those jobs!!! I wonder if it’s tax funded!? Anyone know if they are private or publicly funded?
One cop says to the other “what, they’re not coming to back up our copsplainin’ BS?” “No, no one will back us up”. “Well what happened to the thin blue line, I really want to exert my authority on this little woman?” “I’m sorry George but apparently she has Rights” “Gosh Darn it Larry, I may just have to go home and push my wife around then” “Yeah, me too”
“That’s semantics…” How to demonstrate that you’re an idiot. She’s absolutely correct, in that semantics is important, because it deals with what we mean when we say a thing. An enormous amount of any work in philosophy and science is centred on defining terms. The only time it’s proper to dismiss an argument as semantic is when the argument centres around disagreement in what a word means. Once you’ve defined your terms, you get on to the interesting stuff. The proper semantic content of any discussion is to provide clarity.
Where the “checkpoint starts” is very similar to the 100 mile radius Customs has from the US border which basically covers 90% of the entire US population. Its ridiculous.
they never have the curtousy to say ‘sorry, we were wrong’ they just slink away like naughty school boys
I’m a TSA employee and she is correct. The TSA does allow people to take photos of the security checkpoint as long as they don’t interfere with the process. She’s In a publicly accessible area on the public side of the airport. As long as she’s not impeding people from leaving or trying to walk up the exit lane into a secure area without going through screening shes fine. I’ve counseled officers at my airport for confronting people about filming. We have a line marked where people are free to film as long as they dont go past that line and set the alarms off she’s fine. We have people filming quite often. Edit… The airport police officer is wrong. The screening process doesn’t start until you present yourself for screening. Handing your ID to the ticket checker.
I always wonder at what point do they realize “the shit aint happening”. Every officer is different in how they present their failure to perform the discharge of their duties(the majority of LEOs do this on a daily basis), so its interesting to see if they’re actually ignorant of the law, or they just think citizens are and they can get away with bullying people with lies and intimidation. I personally like to take an aggressive approach from the jump, because it tends to let the beta males masquerading as alphas know that their tactics are not going to work with me and their best bet is just to keep it moving. That way we can skip the 10 to 15 minutes of pointless dialogue where they try to convince me of their lies, and we can get right to them moving the fuck on or escalating and attempting to violate my rights.
Overstepping their authority, and they’re so used to nobody ever pushing back. Those days are quickly ending, every day more people are the victims of this type of abuse.
I love how it’s all directives and in her space until they get set straight and they can’t even look at her as they walk past..
There is a sign that indicates where the screening area is and a CLEARLY distinct transition between different types of flooring beginning exactly where the screening area is indicated to begin… Officer, just look down.
It’s funny how they never admit that they were wrong, just leave or walk away and try not to make eye contact or acknowledge the person at all.
How can you simultaneously be in the screening process AND being in the exit aisle? As far as I’m aware, the people exiting are not in the screening process.
Why won’t they just state the law if they thought she was breaking the law ?
It’s obviously apparent that the security checkpoint area would begin where the carpet ends. Airport police are notorious for overstepping their authority in the guise of national security.

 

Passenger ID Refusal, Cop Retaliates And Can’t Stop Lying

Michigan State Police Officer does a stop on a commercial vehicle and trys to identify the passenger. The passenger is NOT a co-driver, and he states that, to which the cop responds that he must identify anyways. When the passenger still refuses the officer puts a 3 hour retaliatory hold on the truck. At some point he decides to stop retaliating and releases the hold before the 3 hours is up. He apologizes for his behavior but still tells a lie while apologizing. Some people just can’t stop lying. We call these people government.