Police Gives Ticket for 10% over Speed Limit without knowing the Speed Limit

Police Refuse to Accept they were Wrong:

Police must get ID, even if stop was unwarranted

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Cop: you’re speeding!
Driver: whats the speed limit here?
Cop: I don’t know.
The cop doesn’t know the speed on the road but he knows he was speeding 🤦🤣
He didn’t know what the speed limit was but he was sure that he was going 10% faster than what he didn’t know. Huh?
Claiming he was going 10% over the posted speed limit is pretty specific when the officer didn’t know what the posted speed limit was.
10% over the speed limit? For 2-2.5 mph over the speed limit? Wow!

Another officer, a Sgt no less, who believes he can stop anyone he wants to anytime he wants to just to check their ID!! This is crazy! Auditors are def making a difference by educating citizens about their rights, but sometimes it seems like the officers are getting WORSE!

 

The driver was not guessing his speed as the cop inferred. He had it in the screen in front of him. They can pace someone for speeding but the driver is right, they cannot gauge it from sitting still. Cop was mad because he was proven wrong and then the guy knew his rights. Egos in policing is dangerous and deadly!
“I’ll LET you go.” Mighty fine of him to let him go esp. since he committed no crime. Tyrants!
I really believe the cops are gaming the public with you must show ID even if there is no violation. That many cops can’t be that misinformed. What I think is happening is its a nation wide campaign to keep saying it until the public believes it and then slide it in there and make it an actual law.
The problem is that cops are never wrong, they don’t know how to acknowledge any mistake, infact the opposite happens when they are wrong and get called on it they usually escalate and start manufacturing a crime to justify their wrong doings… Sick….
😀 Dude told the cop “You need to be recalibrated”.🤣🤣🤣. Love it! Great job.
 @Tempus Fugit  That’s a very idealistic point of view. But I’m sorry to inform you that in the real world, the citizen doesn’t often win an argument he insists in having on the side of the road. No I’m no boot licker and I’m no push over. I assure you I’ve made my displeasure and my resistance known in more than one occasion. In the case of this video, the guy lucked out that the cop was pulling the speeding charge out of his ass because he realized he was wrong about the phone and he happened to have gotten caught on the fact that he didn’t know what the speed limit was. AND the supervisor that responded happened to be a reasonable guy and want looking to just jack with a citizen. He made a half-assed attempt to claim they can just stop random drivers to check their drivers license. When it was obvious he wasn’t getting away with it, the supervisor let him go. But I assure you, had the supervisor had his ego as invested as the officer did, that driver would have either coughed up his DL or he would have been a guest of the county for a while. Right wrong or indifferent, it’s up to the cops how that encounter ends. Luckily, he argued his point and the supervisor decided it wasn’t worth it to take it all the way because his guy was wrong. But make no mistake, had he decided to back his officer, he would have been ordered out of the vehicle. Had he refused, he would have been taken out of the vehicle. Just that noncompliance could lead many judges to decide that he was resisting and obstructing by refusing a lawful order to exit. Who knows what he would decide on the citations. But, I’d be willing to bet a judge would find that it was a lawful stop initially because cops are allowed to make a mistake like thinking he was holding his phone. And from there, the officer doesn’t need any justification to ask the driver to exit the vehicle. His refusal to do so buts himself a ride to county. Is that fair? Nope. But it’s not up to you or the driver to declare it an unlawful stop or to decide when it became decided that he had made an error about the phone. His resistance in such an excessive manner could be seen by the judge as reasonable suspicion to continue investigating. It all depends on how the judge interprets his actions and the actions of the officer. But it seems like you’re if the mindset that any time a citizen believes he hadn’t committed the infraction he was stopped for that he can then lawfully defy lawful orders based on his belief that they’re unlawful due to his belief that he didn’t commit the infraction. Doesn’t work that way. If it did, everybody would just say “no I wasn’t speeding. Wasn’t me. “. And then the cop has to say “ok maybe it wasn’t you. I guess there’s nothing else I can do since you say you didn’t do it. Have a nice day”. As much as that would be awesome, it’s just not realistic and would make it impossible for cops to do anything. Bottom line, the guy rolled the dice and hit so was able to leave. He just as easily could have crapped out and had his day turn south real quick. You’re free to roll those dice too, of course. But if you think you’re going to win every time in a situation like that, you’re crazy. Not saying the cop was in the right or would have been to arrest him. He was just following policy which I guarantee states that he woulda had done explaining to do if he’d made a stop and didn’t even get the guys DL. Don’t like that policy? Fine. Petition your elected officials to try n get it changed. Aside from that, the cop is going to insist on that DL every time
If a officer wants to violate your rights he is forsure going to do so, this is why I’d say allow him to violate your rights and record it so you will have all the evidence you need because if we don’t hold them accountable then it’s only going to get worse.
My opinion is the supervisor knew this stop could go sideways and get crazy. The time and effort in making this man show id will be more problematic then its worth and this driver was committed to standing his ground. Cop was professional and explained his opinion well but needs to stop the crack addiction. ( ID ) that is.
Cops saying “I’m not gonna argue with you,” is cop speak for: I know I’m wrong, but I’m a cop and I’ll do what the fuck I want, and if you want to pursue it, I have qualified immunity so I’ll be just fine.
I would have pointed out that there was no way he would know if you were speeding if he didn’t know what the speed limit was in the first place.
The supervisor didn’t know the law either, as he said that it was legal to ask to see the drivers license, but at least he let the man drive off after having lost a much too long time for nothing due to a lying LEO not knowing the law (as usual)
Looking at this cop should communicate what’s driving him is far more than fabricating a traffic violation to check for warrants.
So the supervisor thinks we live in 1030’s Nazi Germany? That’s basically what he’s saying when he said they can stop anyone to verify driver’s license’s. Sorry buddy but you’re flat out incorrect at the highest level!
This was an honest mistake by the supervisor. He accidentally thought he was in Nazi Germany and could demand papers at any time.

THIS IS THE DEAL .
“I placed him in handcuffs”
“Why?
“Safety”
“What was the safety concern?”
“He was resisting”
“What was he resisting?”
“Being placed in handcuffs” FBLG💩👮‍♂ & F👢L

 

 

At the end of the day ; coppa needs to make a ticket , to reach his quota – IMO . DISGRACEFUL.
The really scary part is the “supervisor” thinks they can pull anybody over for ZERO reasons ! American Police thinking on full display
The officer said I can’t dispute your truth, which means he has nothing and he should just let you go, that’s exactly what that means
perfect handling of a common police harassment

Man Walks Away From Illegal Detainment

You can see the ego tripping clear as day. “I’m a cop whatever I say goes”. Doesn’t matter if it is right or wrong. That is a big issue and is the root of a lot of issues today.

I hate howshe gets more passive aggresive and that she tried to belittle him with that smug tone “do you work”.

Its funny how multiple units show up for someone doing NOTHING wrong but when you need them, they take forever and a day to show up. #FuckedUpPriorities

whenever a cop tells you you have to answer his questions ask him if he ever heard of the 5th amendment.

Wow this was powerful, These officers had no lawful reason to to detain this man and he proved it. These cops were so butt hurt and they just wanted this citizen to identify so bad its not even funny. If he was not recording this encounter would have went totally different i think. Great work

“I don’t understand why you’re filming us”

is that a felony or a misdemeanor?

How long is it going to take for these guys to figure out filming in public IS NOT A CRIME!!!!

3:55
A cop lie.
Being uncooperative is to lie or give false information.
They are being uncooperative with your rights!

When questioned about filming you should ask them if they have something to hide. Why are they upset about being filmed?

He should have done a James Freeman style “flip the script” and told them he got a call about some suspicious activity in the area, possibly gang related, and he was there to investigate. Asked them for ID’s, if they were doing anything they shouldn’t be, if they had any drugs on them, and if they would consent to a pat down and allow him to search their vehicles.


“I don’t know why you are filming us”
There are a lot of things that you don’t know and I am not required to teach you.

She knew she couldn’t detain him.
This is why we have a disconnect between the people and cops

@J&BCFamily they can’t lie about detaining you. They can lie about arresting someone else.

We Got A Call For Service, I Need To See Some ID

 

Cops thinking “this is a quiet neighborhood” gives them any authority shows just how delusional they really are.
It’s a public place. How dare he say he doesn’t belong there.
I would’ve said “so where do I belong then chief? At home? Close to home? How far from home chief?”

Since this was NOT a traffic stop, one should expect such a cop to patiently wait till the “suspect” car begins to move and then make it one. That entitles them to a wider range of harassment tactics.

 

A law enforcement officer has a commission that empowers them to one end and one end alone, and that is to enforce the law. If what you are doing is not against the law, then what you are doing is none of their business.
When the cop said he hadn’t committed a crime- he should have rolled the window back up. The cop went to his car and ran those plates.
Cop: “that’s not how this works” Narrator as the cop walks away: “but that was exactly how it worked”
This Exact scenario happened to me numerous times. While sitting in my car after work catching up on returning emails. Sitting on a quiet street down the road from my daughter’s day care. A Karen, was demanding answers from me, and multiple times called the cops on me because I had parked there the day before and wouldn’t TELL HER if I was stalking someone or a private investigator?…….Like WTF?…private investigator wearing a chef jacket with my name on it.🤣🤣🤣
stepping back and watching is better than many who are dragged out of the car ,cuffed and stuffed in a cop car just to I.D. over some call from a person trying to control public property.
He’s waiting behind you for you to move your car an inch so he can then pull you over on a traffic stop for some BS excuse and then ID you. The blue line of douchebaggery earning the hate everyday.
“ But I got a call”. “ That gives me the right to abuse your freedoms “
The police officer is trying to intimidate him by staying behind him the entire time after the interaction and he’s also waiting to see if he’s going to forget to turn a turn signal already driving talk or stop at stop sign or he’s trying to do a pretextual stop at this point cuz he knows he has nothing on it on you so he’s going to wait till he can find something

 

Amazing ID Refusal – Extreme ego check

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This cop is an huge embarrassment to all law enforcement officers …he yells and screams at the citizen, but when he gets on the radio, or his own supervisor approaches, he completely changes his demeanor .

 

If I was sitting on a police review board I would recommend this officer for a psych test and retraining. I see 2 major issues here. 1) His main job was to back up his partner. Hard to do that when your not backing up your partner. 2) He took a supervisor away from her job. He knew exactly what the law was and tried intimidation to get his way all he ended up doing was failing to do his job.
What’s crazy is cops like this get promotions instead of being fired like they should be
It’s worrying to have anyone walking the street who is unstable, but even more worrying when the unstable person is wearing a police uniform and carrying a gun. The miserable looking sergeant took no control of the situation whatsoever and allowed the unstable cop to keep ranting over her and she even condoned his worrying behaviour by saying that’s what he’s like. An appalling example of policing that gets a zero out of ten.
Funny how he changed his story. Both of these cops are liars.
OK, this cop is certifiably crazy! He has ranted for over a minute straight and says he is not the one creating a scene? Wow, denial ain’t just a River in Egypt.
The cop was so afraid of this guy that he turned his back on him, hilarious
This is a perfect example of what’s wrong with law enforcement today, officers forget who they work for.
Remember it is legal for a cop to lie to you. You can not trust anything they say so don’t you say anything to them.
It’s funny how he talks so normal to his sergeant but he was so loud and aggressive and raspy to the auditor
IF I were this officers Chief, I truly would tell this cop to calm down for his own good.
He comes across as ineffective and hostile.
“Did I ask you for ID?” The level of cowardess once his boss was there is amazing… She says “No, he explained to me pretty well”… What did he explain? Surely not told the truth. I’d pull up the bodycam footage and send it to her… is that what he explained to you pretty well? I guess not.
Maybe that cop met the first citizen who ain’t afraid of his loud and deep voice and attitude at all. He clearly changed his manner during the interaction. That filming guy was so calm and did a great job!
Between cowardly cops and covid I’m really tired of the word safety. It’s just like crying wolf too many times.
And that’s exactly why we need to film The Police because we know exactly what they are capable of doing so for our safety and our fellow civilians safety we need to police you Mr officer
Most people crack under that type of pressure, that’s why even after knowing the law most officers continue to ask for ID.
Camera guy handled that very well. Even made the cop laugh cause he realized how ridiculous his little rant was
Amazing how they ask “what, you have something to hide?” when their aggressive verbage and demands are because they have something to hide!
I love the way they CHOOSE to come up to harass photographers but it’s always the photographers fault that the cop made that decision!! UNBELIEVEABLE!
Yes they can ask for ID, but being told a dozen or so times” no”, is hardly vague. Asked and answered 12+ times. That’s attempted harassment and intimidation,grind you down til you (may) give in.
What a punk. There is no reason for this contact except to attempt to intimidate this photographer. He can ask all day and no one is obligated to give up their rights. These cops know the law and choose to ignore it because they can violate people’s rights with impunity.
I’m a roofer, I’ve fallen from 2 story houses for almost any reason as simple as looking down. My jobs way more dangerous then any cop. They mostly die from pulling people over on the freeway to rob them. Can’t feel bad for a crook!
So by the officer’s logic the photographer is creating a disturbance if he films them without identifying himself. And not creating a disturbance if he does identify. This cop has lost his shit, I really hope he watches this video and sees how stupid he sounds! Photographer your policy is to identify, officer yeah and your policy is, photographer I don’t have a policy, I’m dying over here. This cop is killing me, gunphones oh my God, we need more interaction with this officer.
Shoot.. classic roid-rage! Scary that there are folks like him walking around out there with badges and guns. Sad to see the lady cop put her head in the sand and cover for his obnoxious behavior. No good will come from protecting a guy like him. Next time he will cause bodily hard or perhaps kill someone and then what will she say… “no I don’t see a problem – he explained it to me and makes sense”? This guy is the type to get butt-hurt easily and I can see him planting drugs on people down the line or giving the next guy he comes upon a beating because that guy isn’t holding a camera phone… bummed to see this happen
No one needs to imagine how many law abiding citizen’s this out of control paranoid cop has f’d with over the years and how many he’s falsely arrested for HIS ego and butthurt. That dude has zero business being police, he’s disgrace. And tell the next grandma that shows up who backs up the paranoid losers that she is dismissed and can go have her prune juice. You good cops out there and yes there are some, you don’t have to wonder why so much of the public despises you now. There are hundreds if not thousands of videos like this and far worse of batshit cops trying to intimidate, threaten, falsely arrest, and brutalize law abiding citizens. Your fellow cops have earned the disdain and in many cases hatred.
“I think we are all on the same page” She was deliberately saying “you know we violate rights and intimidate the public, and we know we violate rights and intimidate the public”
Gotta love how these cops dance all around what they really think, and that is they have a badge and they can do whatever they want to you because your nothing.
When a cop says filming is stopping them from doing their job that means they’re unfit/incompetent for the job and they’re suffering from a.d.d. They need to turn in the badge and quit.
This cop is a flagrant intimidator. What you prefer, he will violate. He tries to install a policy on your side, and then tells you he has “a right” to ask you for ID. This is true, but you have a right to decline. Now, back to the Constitution and your oath – what was that about rights? Officer safety is one form of blame shift. But they also use YOUR safety to direct you into what they want. They authorize themselves to have authority over you and “safety” is their way in, but they work each side to qualify your rights. Nothing this cam man is doing gives the cop anything to work with. This cop isn’t just bad. He’s outta date. Sounds like he took his test when the qualifications to be a cop were relaxed or set lower. Actually, he sounds like an a$sh*le. How’d you like having that voice in your ear, being his wife. Ugh…!
Sergeant: “No… he’s just like that.” Me: “Well then maybe he shouldn’t be interacting with the public… find him a nice desk somewhere so he doesn’t make your department look bad.”
This guy HAS to be a former marine drill sgt. Just look at his stance, demeanor, hair and graveley voice. He is NOT used to being told no. Great job by the auditor standing his ground!
I live in Milwaukee and I had my rights violated so many, many times with the Milwaukee police department and surrounding counties we need more auditors HYPOCRISY AT IT’S BEST
For someone concerned about his safety he sure is quick to turn his face away and look away when he talks on the radio.
He’s one of those guys who scored too low on the ASVAB to be allowed in any branch of the military.
I worked with a guy with a voice like that and he was just as aggressive and loud. But as soon as the boss was around, so quiet and calm. Pissed me off so much I quit. Asshole wins again….
Lol, this cop should have just asked one question then left. I’m sure his boss was real happy to be called out to that urgent matter 😂.
It absolutely drives me nuts when law enforcement officers abuse and violate people. I watch to be educated. What these auditors are doing is priceless.
Old video. But, when ever a cop wonders why you won’t provide ID, ask for theirs right back. “Are you trying to hide something?”
I love how he says he’s worried about the drivers safety and his partner but stands in front of you the entire time. Next time ask him why He’s claiming he’s worried for their safety, since the supreme Court said they have no duty to protect civilians. Also the next time one of them says in this day and time and all the things that are happening – ask what things exactly is he talking about because I would be willing to bet he couldn’t name even one. Ask why he’s so worried about his safety when his job doesn’t even rank the top 10 most dangerous jobs you can have. They continually show that the things they say are nothing but propaganda with no basis in reality.
What a big box of rocks that cop is. He’s the one that’s escalating this entire thing. He should be doing his job in shutting his mouth. This shows just how intelligent and professional that he is 😡
12:30 – So because the rare concern comes up, EVERYBODY is a suspect, everybody is potentially a criminal. Right? So this cop admitted they see each person as a threat – “you know how it is out there.” So, what? There is one in 40,000 who would harm a cop, and that increases with population. Now we find justification for how THE PEOPLE are treated, and rights are violated under an assumption that you are already something you aren’t yet. Same thing with this cop. You are exercising your rights, where you should be, and then he conveys what your lawful actions ARE into what he needs to make them, by context. Sorry, dumb cop. You can’t reassign an ‘action’ (toward intent) because laws can’t be installed to contravene the Constitution and our rights. See how “they” corrupt the view, the perspective? It’s less obvious these days but “they” still do it. “They” just don’t insist it the same way. After all, “what ate you gonna do about it?”