Joe Rogan: Our Media is in an Adolescent Stage

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that’s why I think it’s good like what
you do in terms of coversation is like you
basically say you know I’m gonna do long
form because that you know feels like at
least from my perspective the healthiest
form
yeah it’s conversation but is even in
that case people will take long-form
edit things out of context and then it
becomes the same problem that we have on
Twitter and with everything else you get
these little sound bites so there’s
little video clips and you don’t
understand the full context of the
conversation or what was actually said
and then people get outraged at that
it’s you know it’s we are living in a
very strange time and I believe it’s an
adolescent stage of communication and I
think it’s going to give our
frustrations for this are going to give
birth to a better full

and I think one of the things that
podcasts what it’s in response to the
popularity of the long-form is in
response to people being upset with like
these traditional late-night talk show
things where there’s a window here with
one guy on the right and a window here
with a guy on the left and there’s a
person in the center and they’re yelling
at each other and then you cut to
commercial and you don’t really feel
like things got resolved so the response
to that where people gravitate it’s
three is theater yeah I think he’s was
it hard for you you know when we came up
his comments it was also at that point
like it was sort of a gladiatorial
environment you know and I remember you
know the Boston scene you know was
always like that’s a tough scene yeah
he’d come up and it was kind of
gladiatorial and but you had that
audience and you develop kind of that
thick skin is it hard to then make that
switch in your mind to this different
form that’s so much more considered so
much less about conquering the stage
yeah it is about being open and is that
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something that for you what was the
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switch for you from those two forms
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because that’s and that’s an interesting
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switch well in the beginning there
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wasn’t very good switch you know it’s
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like one of the reasons why the early
47:29
episode sucked it’s like I didn’t know
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what I was doing and I didn’t think
47:32
anybody was listening it was just for
47:34
fun and there was a lot of just hanging
47:36
out with comics and just doing what
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comics do if we were at a diner
47:39
somewhere just talking shit and making
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each other laugh but we were doing it
47:43
and videotaping it and then along the
47:45
way I started interviewing actual
47:47
interesting people and talking to them
47:49
and having conversations and not you
47:51
know I don’t you know I there’s a place
47:53
for comedy and then I don’t I make a
47:56
really big point in never trying to
47:59
force comedy into places where it
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doesn’t belong that’s I do that also
48:04
with the UFC when I do commentary I’m
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never funny there’s no reason to be it’s
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not what my job is you know and then
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when I’m doing a conversation with
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someone I just try to talk I don’t try
48:14
to be a comic I don’t try I just I’m a
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human I want I want to know what they’re
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talking about and I want to I want to
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get them to expand upon their
48:22
ideas as best they can and I want to be
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engaged that’s what I’m trying to do so
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it wasn’t that it wasn’t that was a big
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Jon Stewart’s Children, and Trolling the Press Corps

In the years after 9/11, Jon Stewart’s “Daily Show” made political satire a central part of the media landscape. This hour, we hear from some of today’s leading practitioners: The New Yorker’s Andy Borowitz; Trevor Noah, of “The Daily Show”; Bassem Youssef; and the founders of Reductress. An alt-right blogger turned White House correspondent explains that journalism is only politics by other means. And the cartoonists Emily Flake and Drew Dernavich attempt to escape from an escape room.

Steve Bannon’s Departure Won’t Change Donald Trump

The president’s prejudices predate his relationship with the former Breitbart News chief.

.. It would be nice to believe that Steve Bannon’s departure from the White House will end, or least diminish, Donald Trump’s flirtations with bigotry. Alas, that’s almost certainly not the case.

As Trump himself likes to note, Bannon joined his campaign late, in August 2016. By that time, Trump had

  • already called Mexican immigrants “rapists,”
  • falsely accused American Muslims in New Jersey of celebrating the 9/11 attacks,
  • said “Islam hates us,” and
  • declared that Judge Gonzalo Curiel could not fairly judge the case against Trump University because was Mexican American.

Bannon’s hiring was not a cause of the Trump campaign’s dalliance with Islamophobia, nativism, and white nationalism. It was a result.

In 1989, when four African American and one Hispanic teenagers (the “Central Park Five”) were arrested for rape, Trump took out newspaper ads declaring that the accused should be executed and “forced to suffer.” When DNA evidence exonerated the young men in 2012, Trump denounced New York City’s decision to compensate them, saying “I think people are tired of politically correct.”

.. Steve Bannon was not advising Donald Trump when Trump demanded to see Barack Obama’s college transcripts and launched a crusade to prove that he was not an American citizen.

.. Bannon was not advising Trump in 2013, when the real estate tycoon tweeted that, “I’m much smarter than Jonathan Leibowitz—I mean Jon Stewart” or told Republican Jews that, “You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money.”

.. his Thursday tweet suggesting the United States should look to a false story of  U.S. Army General John Pershing’s supposed war crimes in the Philippines as the right model for how to treat suspected Muslim terrorists, all occurred while he was reportedly weighing Bannon’s firing.

.. reporting suggests that the thing that really bothered Trump about Bannon was his penchant for stealing the spotlight. Not his religious and racial views.

 

Jon Stewart on Trump & Why he really left the Daily Show (11/22/2016)

Filmed a few weeks after the 2016 election: (2016-11-22)

  • The same country that elected Donald Trump elected Barak Obama.
  • Are we an ideal or some form of ethnostate? (8:08)
  • No one asked Donald Trump what makes America Great? (10:22)
  • Steve Carrell gets to ask a tough question about Pork Barrel spending, but he has to pull his punches because comedy is catch and release  (22:37)
  • Jon on why he left the Daily Show (35:10)
  • Susan B Anthony symbolizes the country.  She didn’t want black men to get the vote before white women. (38:20)
  • America is not natural. Tribal is natural (39:25)