Did Trump threaten Liz Cheney with Firing Squad?

Transcript: “She’s a radical war hawk let’s put her with a rifle”

Summary:

Trump did not threaten Liz Cheney with a firing squad, although he did use violent rhetoric when portraying Cheney as a “Chicken/Warhawk” who is quick to send others into war, but avoids putting themselves at risk. 1

  • Trump’s narrative: She doesn’t like me because she is a warhawk, and being a warhawk is stupid.  It costs a lot and we don’t get to keep the oil.
  • Trump refuses to acknowledge that there are legitimate critics of J6 of whom Liz Cheney may be one.
  • Trump attacks her for her “stupid warhawk positions,” and there are legitimate arguments against warhawks like John McCain & Lindsay Graham, but the reason why Trump doesn’t like her is because she was on the J6 committee and even more importantly, as Tucker Points out at the beginning of this topic, Liz Cheney is campaigning with Kamala Harris, costing him real votes.
  • I would expect Trump to verbally oppose any former allies who visibly attack him, as Liz Cheney has done, using whatever criticisms that are readily available, whether or not he actually believes in the narrative.

Breakdown:

  • It starts with Tucker Carlson bringing up the Bush/Cheney families and the fact that Liz Cheney is campaigning with Kamala Harris
  • Trump immediately goes after Liz Cheney’s advocacy of staying in Iraq & Syria
  • Trump implies the fact that Cheney badly lost re-election shows she was wrong or at least a “loser”, which is the worst thing you can be for Trump.
  • Trump: fighting wars isn’t profitable.  You don’t get to keep the oil, and it kills large numbers of people
    • Trump might be a warhawk too if he thought it had a good payoff and the US was winning the wars:  (We don’t win anymore)
  • Trump: The Iraq War was bad for many reasons.  It helped Iran because it neutralized Iraq, which was there big rival.
  • Dick Cheney convinced Bush to go into Iraq, which was a horrible mistake:
  • It cost $9 Trillion and we got nothing but dead people
    • Notice he doesn’t go after Dick Cheney or John Bolton, but they didn’t attack him or campaign with his opponent.
    • I expect Trump would go after Dick Cheney and John Bolton personally if they was a more vocal public critics.
  • Scooter Libby had dirt on Bush and was prosecuted as an almost sacrificial lamb
  • Trump had the “courage” to grant Scooter a pardon, which shows how great Trump is and how Dick Cheney is in Trump’s debt
  • Trump gives Dick Cheney points for being “loyal” to Scooter Libby.  (The Mafia have a “code” of loyalty too)
  • Dick Cheney showed appreciation to Trump for the pardon and Trump respected Scooter for not “squealing” (my choice of words)
  • Trump returns to the subject of Liz Cheney being a radical warhawk/chicken hawk, which is an established line of attack
  • They’re all warhawks when they’re sitting in Washington
  • I had meetings with Liz Cheney and she always wanted to go to war with people.
  • Trump argues that the J6 committee put out false narratives about Trump using a choke hold against the Secret Service.  (But Trump mentions the thought that it might not be so objectionable to be portrayed as so tough and powerful to mix it up with the Secret Service)
  • One of Trump’s “tells” is that whenever the people in his story address him as “Sir”, he is lying.  (although he is lying other times too, but: “Sir” suggests that he is narrating a story for dramatic effect)
  • Trump makes the accusation that the Secret Service agents contradicted the story about him grabbing one of them by the neck (which he exaggerates by terming it a “choke hold”), so he’s not really disputing the actual allegation, but rather his own exaggeration.
  • Trump also alleges that J6 evidence was destroyed this is something that could be verified or falsified, or at least we could learn what sort of grievance he is referring to.
  • Trump argues that The Democrats used lawfare against their political opponent (Trump), which is Banana Republic stuff.  I think Trump has a point about some of the cases, but the solution is not to engage in counter-lawfare — that’s really Banana Republic stuff.2
Of the two lines of attack, I think Trump cares much more about Cheney being on the J6 committee and campaigning against him than about her being a “war/chicken hawk”.
Notice the theme that both Trump and the Democrats refuse to acknowledge is that they might have legitimate critics.  I suppose that Trump thinks it is “disloyal” for Liz Cheney to have participated in the J6 committee and really disloyal to campaign with his opponent.

SELECTED TRANSCRIPT:

The Beginning of the Liz Cheney theme is several minutes before the “Let’s put her with a rifle” line.

[Read more…]


  1. Yes Trump avoided fighting in the Vietnam war. He claims he is less quick to initiate new military action. (more below)

  2. Crazy idea: If Trump were to issue pardons for those that engaged in lawfare, he could portray himself as “the better man.”

Protecting Democracy from Corporate Money While Allowing Transparent Corporate Speech

A Proposal That Honors Justice Anthony Kennedy’s Vision of Corporate “Information”

Throughout American history, rights have typically expanded rather than contracted. However, the unique challenges facing American democracy today may warrant rethinking certain rights afforded to large corporations. Mitt Romney famously remarked that Corporations are people, and while that concept has become embedded in U.S. law, it has arguably gone too far. Expansions in corporate “personhood” and “speech” (i.e., political spending) have disproportionately elevated corporate influence in politics, often at the expense of the American electorate.

The rise in corporate political spending has suppressed the voice of average voters and contributed to their sense of disillusionment. In 2014, Studies by political scientists Martin Gilens1 and Benjamin I. Page 2 revealed the preferences of the average American appear to have only a minuscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy. This imbalance distorts democratic governance, where elected officials increasingly prioritize the interests of the wealthy and corporations over those of the median voter.

Anthony Kennedy, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States (Wikipedia)

The U.S. Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United ruling defended corporate political expenditures as “speech,” with Justice Anthony Kennedy opposing restrictions on corporate “speech,” saying Corporations have lots of knowledge about environment, transportation issues, and you are silencing them during the election. But is there a way to balance this principle of free speech with the need to protect the electoral system from undue corporate financial dominance?

Idealized Corporate Speech vs Reality

Justice Kennedy’s vision of corporate speech reflects an idealized view that resembles classical economic theories, where all actors possess “perfect information” and make rational choices. Kennedy assumes that corporations share useful, specialized knowledge with the public in good faith. However, corporate behavior in politics often prioritizes profit over good information and transparency.

Take Exxon for example:

Exxon was aware of climate change, as early as 1977, 11 years before it became a public issue, according to a recent investigation from InsideClimate News. This knowledge did not prevent the company (now ExxonMobil and the world’s largest oil and gas company) from spending decades refusing to publicly acknowledge climate change and even promoting climate misinformation—an approach many have likened to the lies spread by the tobacco industry regarding the health risks of smoking.

Just as light can be treated as both a wave and a particle, under current law, speech can be treated as both “communication” and “money.”   (fact check). Corporations prefer to use the “money” aspect to “donate to”/bribe elected officials rather than engage in accountable public speech. Instead of educating voters through public ads or informative campaigns, large corporations contribute millions to misinformation campaigns and practice divide and rule tactics by hiring consultants to amplify unrelated wedge-issue campaigns on issues like Critical Race Theory or earlier Anti-Gay Marriage campaigns that distract the electorate from the real corporate interests. (fact check)

Proposal: Permit Corporate “Communication”, Forbid “Money” Speech

To reconcile the value of corporate knowledge with the need to limit financial influence, I propose a strict reform: allow large corporations to engage in public communication directly relevant to their area of expertise, but forbid all forms of “money speech”—i.e., significant financial contributions aimed at political influence.

Rex Tillerson
Rex Tillerson, former Exxon mobile CEO,  official Secretary of State portrait (Wikipedia)

Under this model, large corporations would still be allowed to share information directly relevant to their industry or expertise but would be required to do so transparently. For instance, if ExxonMobil wanted to discuss climate policy publicly, its CEO would need to explicitly approve the message—for example, by stating, “I’m Rex Tillerson, CEO of ExxonMobil, and I approved this message.” This ensures voters know who is behind the message and why, preserving transparency and accountability.

Barring “Money” Speech Entirely

Large corporations, however, would be strictly prohibited from making any direct or indirect financial contributions to candidates, political action committees, or third-party groups. The ban on financial influence would prevent corporations from swaying elections through money while still allowing them a voice in public discourse—albeit one fully transparent and accountable to voters. Small and medium-sized businesses such as Scalia’s local hairdresser the local auto repair shop the the local uh new car dealer may retain flexibility to combine their efforts in small alliances whose individual disclosure may involve less up-front visibility due to the large number of participants, but large corporations that possess the power to substantially alter political outcomes would have disclosure requirements similar to political candidates.

The “Speaking” Filibuster: Make them Speak

The “speaking filibuster” reform idea offers a useful analogy. In the 1950s, when Senator Strom Thurman wanted to filibuster the 1957 civil rights act, he had to actually take the floor of the Senate and speak continuously in opposition to the bill.  Today, however, senators can simply declare a filibuster without speaking or making their filibuster public, which often obstructs legislation in a way that is hidden from public scrutiny.

Segregationist Strom Truman filibustered for a record 24 hours against the 1957 Civil Rights legislation, but was not able to stop its passage. Today you can filibuster by merely saying you want to “filibuster”, without actually having to hold the floor. There are proposals to revert to a ‘“spoken filibuster.” (Wikipedia)

Similarly, my proposal would end the practice of large corporations’ bad faith claims to want to educate the public (share information) when in fact they prefer to employ money and front groups to sabotage accountable governance. Just as the speaking filibuster holds senators accountable for obstruction, this reform would ensure that corporate influence in politics remains visible, transparent, and limited to public-facing speech.

Restoring Balance in Democracy

In summary, this proposal advocates a two-tiered model of corporate engagement in politics. Large corporations would be permitted to share public information on issues relevant to their expertise, but they would be barred from using financial influence to fund non-transparent speech or donate money to candidates. This approach respects corporate rights to share knowledge while safeguarding the electoral system from the disproportionate influence of money.

Corporate Media has Incentive to Suppress the Issue

One thing not addressed by this proposal, but standing in the way of its passage, is the conflict of interest held by Corporate media.  Media companies, especially in swing states like Pennsylvania, where I live, receive substantial revenue from political advertising. This financial incentive may discourage them from covering campaign finance reform, even though polling data shows broad public support for such measures.  (fact check)

Though campaign finance reform remains an uphill battle,  we cannot resign ourselves to the unchecked corporate influence enabled by errant Supreme Court precedent. Though corporate lawyers and political operatives may fight back initial challenges, we must channel our inevitable short-term defeats into progressive building blocks of change.  Only by ensuring that corporations engage transparently in speech while limiting their financial influence, can we restore the power of the electorate and faith in government as a representative of the people.


  1. formerly a professor at Princeton, now UCLA

  2. Professor at Northwestern

US General Says the Quiet Part Out Loud – Why the US Cares about South America?

General Laura Richardson
Jan 19, 2023: General Laura Richardson speaks to The Atlantic Council (Think Tank)

Why Should you Care? Oil, Gold, Copper, Lithium, Water

Listening to an old keynote speech by Southern Command General Laura Richardson to The Atlantic Council, I got  the sense that she was unintentionally letting the viewer in on how America elites think about extracting resources from “partners” operating under the purview of the Southern Command region (our “back yard”).

US Military: 6 World Regions
Map: US Military: Unified combatant command

Why South America matters:

  • oil
  • gold
  • copper
  • lithium triangle
  • rare earth elements
  • fresh water
  • fresh air (Amazon)

Regions:

  • Northern Command
  • Southern Command
  • Africa Command
  • European Command
  • Central Comman
  • Indo-Pacific Command

 

(click on the quotes below to view video and its context)

1) Drop the pretense: Why South American matters?

Why this region matters: with all of it’s rich resources and rare earth elements you’ve got the lithium triangle, which is needed for technology today. 60 percent of the world’s lithium is in the lithium triangle — Argentina, Bolivia, Chile. You just have the largest oil reserves , light sweet crew discovered off of Guyana over a year ago. You have Venezuela’s resources, as well with with oil, uh copper, gold. China gets 30, 36 percent of its food source from this region. We have the Amazon lungs of the world. We have the 31 of the world’s fresh water in this region too. I mean it’s just off the charts!

2) US should build more infrastructure in Southern Command:

American critics of the MICIMATT often comment about inadequate US infrastructure.  Richardson talked about investing in infrastructure in the Southern Command Region to counter China (the PRC ).

You’re actually talking about the U.S investing more in in critical infrastructure talking about making economic Investments right in the region.  Absolutely, absolutely, so if I’m the uh as the the uh, not a lot of visitors  maybe or folks that are going into the country or the opportunity that I have while I’m there that I get to see this meet with leaders talk to them about their challenges

3) The Military acts as “Muscle” for US Corporations. It should act as Lobbyist too.

I go back to the equipment we see now all of a sudden you know looking elsewhere other than U.S equipment who has a better finance package oh but minister you’ve got to look get the equipment you’ve got to look at what you get. You can’t compare well. I need to know, you know, what about the financing that’s more important to me right now. But Russia can’t be provide. I can’t have the ability to provide many of these countries with with resupply or new weapons. I mean they’re struggling to supply themselves in many cases for Ukraine so is that presenting an opportunity for maybe the U.S to slide in? Absolutely and we’re taking advantage of that I’d like to say so we are working with those countries that have the Russian equipment to either donated or or switch it out for United States

More Information:

There were other topics covered in the speech, such as suppression of narcotics, but I thought coverage of the above three topics was illuminating.

You can view the whole speech on YouTube.

 

More by Me:

  1. CiteIt App: expands Contextual Citations – aims to build reader trust in writers which show the context of their quotations.
  2. Monster Mash: Military Industrial Complex Song, set to the classic Monster Mash tune.

 

EU Confesses ‘our prosperity was based on China and Russia’

which means that all other members of NATO are basically forced to buy U.S military technology from the military-industrial complex which which enriches U.S corporations in the military-industrial complex private military contractors that are making trillions and trillions of dollars and right now are making tens of billions of dollars off of the proxy war in Ukraine because the 60 billion dollars of the U.S has sent to Ukraine a huge percentage of that goes directly into the pockets of for-profit private weapons contractors in Washington the DMV area the DC Maryland Virginia area in the United States and Europe is aware of that