Joe Rogan & Michael Malice on Trump’s Trolling

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that’ss eyes that are for people who are
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actually suffering minorities be like no
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no this is not cool so she’s not saying
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this from small blogs I’m not seeing
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this from anything main strike yep
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correct because mainstream they’re
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always gonna cover for this that right
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100% of the time yeah they’re gonna
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cover their the thing about those blogs
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is like a lot of them are basically like
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Ari Shaffir refers to them as like
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college papers yeah it’s like a lot of
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these blogs so a college student written
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yeah but they’re often speaking truth oh
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yeah well I would hope I would hope more
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would come out and say hey you can’t say
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you’re Native American just like like
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you imagine the outrage if I just
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started call myself African American
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well do you know what did you see what
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Trump said he said well I can’t call her
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Pocahontas anymore because she’s not an
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Indian and I’m just like oh my god we’re
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not worthy he says some hilarious shit
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oh yeah he really does he really does
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he’s fucking funny off-the-cuff oh yeah
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really is you know and the way he goes
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after people like even though he’s the
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president like he still calls people
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fucking losers I mean he’s still he
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still caused him losers on Twitter and
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goes after them horse face horse face he
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called star McDaniels horse face just
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think of how repulsive he is physically
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he’s fat his faces all fuckin hanging
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off of his bones he’s got white raccoon
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eyes and orange skin and yet he still
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will mock stormy Daniels and call her
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horse face someone tweeted out I forget
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who and I apologized the thing he said
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they go imagine what happens that he
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Trump’s the first person who fucked a
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porn star and she had to brag about it
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and then she paid him yeah yeah well he
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did pay her right but what he paid her
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what she’s gonna have to pay him is
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probably like a factor of three or fours
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I mean how much more she’s gonna wanna
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pain yes for 350k that’s all he asked
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for you uh that’s proved very reasonable
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yeah that doesn’t even cover her book
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yes that’s probably like he just wants
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just be done like that yet it just yet
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give me that paper yeah just give me a
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little something I need a little
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something from you
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with this let this slide I want 300,000
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yeah yeah it’s probably her book that’s
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really all the money no she got more
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than 350 I’m positive
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how much you think she got for that book
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750 I’d guess yeah but she’s got to pay
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taxes sure
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and her agents getting 15 yeah she’s
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probably not even bringing three home so
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it’s all that’s money’s gone oh yeah
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that’s all gone all gone 100% gone and
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no one’s buying that book it stiffed
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yeah yeah nobody gives a shit
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she said it already like I fucked the
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president that’s your book your book as
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I fucked the president well you know
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here’s the funny part with her remember
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this people she was making fun of his
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dick like she’d hit a mushroom deck
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whatever and people are like that’s what
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she said
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and then people were like that you know
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as fucked up as he is that’s body
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shaming he really shouldn’t make fun of
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someone and she’s like you know what
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you’re right I’m sorry
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and then he goes hey horse face she lost
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his fucking mushroom dick at like the
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next day she’s back on it it was amazing
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[Laughter]
The fact that he can call her horse face
and he’s the president on twitter..
But she doesn’t even have a horse face.
It doesn’t matter. I know but it’s just
so weak I mean Ted Cruz really isn’t the
Unabomber or whatever
the fuck you said
he was say that that’s the name they
cease is that Jeff gay fucking it’s also
crazy that was the best part so ted
cruz’s was known as like the best
debater in the senate he had this
Harvard or Yale whatever debating team
great debater everyone we recognized him
for this how did the fuck do you prep
for a debate be like oh yeah well your
dad shot JFK
it’s like what the fuck
wait what well It didn’t have to make
sense right people the people that hurt
Trump supporters don’t want to make
sense they just want him to win right

right exactly and it works yes yeah well
he’s just had to get zingers in oh yeah
yeah I mean it’s like roast battle more
than right and they don’t get that there
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was this my favorite tweet of his my
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favorite where he goes whenever I speak
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of the losers and the haters I do so
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with great affection it’s not their
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fault they were born fucked up at
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exclamation point that’s a real tweet
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tweet it’s the best one
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and it’s true yeah you know one of my
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favorite things was him at a speech
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where he was talking it was 2015 before
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he even talked about running for
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president or it was even I don’t think
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he was a hundred percent open about
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running for president and he said
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there’s two ways to talk to China you
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could you know could prose things you
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could propose things and he says it like
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you know normally and then he says or
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you could say listen motherfucker yeah
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you heard that no oh my god it’s great
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fucking pull it it’s it’s fucking great
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because everybody starts cheering yeah
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because it’s so forbidden in this
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environment wearing an expensive suit
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standing in front of a podium he says or
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you could say listen motherfuckers like
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this is what we’re gonna do and
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everybody started yeah it’s so exciting
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it’s so much more exciting then Marco
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Rubio or you know someone boom Jeb is a
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waste jam is a big fat mistake I watched
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those videos which speech he wasted June
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of 25th now when he said mother when
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he’s just just not speech when he’s
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talking about China and he said listen I
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the fuckers China China China yeah that
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was a thing Puerto Rican when he ordered
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I’m announcing a ban on all Muslim
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immigration Muslim here this is a great
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one do this because it’s leadership this
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time instead of with his name in gold
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it’s with his words this is discussing
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Iraq we build a school we build a road
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they blow up the road they blow up the
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school we build another school we build
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another road they blow them up we build
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again in the meantime we can’t get a
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school built in Brooklyn do the
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audience’s approval talking oil we have
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nobody in Washington that sits back and
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said you’re not going to raise that
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price you understand me
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this is a long time ago sing Chinese
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goods here’s your mother we’re gonna tax
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you 25% while poles 2011 is that what it
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says over there yeah but here’s what’s
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interesting notice the person who posted
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their name is say no to racists yeah
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they probably put it up as a negative
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thing
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well no 2011 he would have been
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considered a Democrat right oh no he’s
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endorsed Romney he endorsed Romney
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Republican race he was a Democrat until
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what 2010 probably around then because
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he was gonna run independent at some
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point Trump 2012 look at that this is
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the guy we’ve been looking for ha ha ha
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seven years ago but it’s just deplorable
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what changed it they probably damaged it
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in the future because it says seven
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years yeah fuck that’s the time travel
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that hack join read uh yeah someone did
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it someone definitely hacked it yeah
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just hilarious they didn’t give the good
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version of that either because they
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believed in it well not just that
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because you also see if you can find the
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better version because he basically
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practices it like you know people been
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saying it like this right you can say it
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like this or you can say listen you
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motherfuckers and that’s when everybody
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starts cheering he actually gave an
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example yeah he actually guys what can
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you do yeah so easy I drop a twenty five
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percent tax on China
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and you know I said to somebody that is
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really the messenger the messenger is
important I could have one man saying
way to tax you 25% and I could say
another listen you motherfuckers brooder
Here’s how the Press lies on the campaign
trail he set a point I remember it was
the sense of it goes you better shut
your mouth so he didn’t say the word
mm-hmm they bleeped it and they bleeped
it to make it look like he was cursing
and he’s like you guys are fucking shady
as hell
that’s very Shady yeah that’s Shady you
can’t just bleep a pause and pretend
that there’s some sort of an offensive
word in there right so that’s really
that’s just deceptive right and it’s
pervasive they do it all the fucking
time
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well who’s good out there to challenge
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him they’re fucked all right fuck you
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know why they’re fucked why because
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we’ve never had this happen before the
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whole time all those Democrats are
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fighting each other for the primary for
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the nomination he’s gonna be tweeting
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the shit out of those debates he’s gonna
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be live tweeting the debates right and
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they’re not gonna they have to worry
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about the tax from their colleagues but
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also from the sitting president I was
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like look at this dope and he’s gonna
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come up with nicknames right now this
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stick Danang dick he already did I’m
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like it’s amazing to demand dick
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Blumenthal senator from Connecticut lied
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about his Vietnam service oh no I
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started calling him Danang dick he lied
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about his Vietnam service so got elected
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yeah Wow
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shameless yeah how did he lie what did
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he say he said he served and he didn’t
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look it up yeah I mean it’s it’s it is
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brazen it wasn’t some ambiguous area I
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think he’s like he never left America is
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my understanding oh yeah

Trump’s reliance on pressure tactics is showing diminishing returns

President Trump’s brinkmanship with Mexico over immigration has opened a new and risky front in his global campaign to pressure other nations to capitulate to his demands, a strategy that has paid few dividends over 2½ years and left his major foreign policy initiatives in doubt.

From his “fire and fury” rhetoric against a nuclear-armed North Korea to an escalating trade war with China to new ultimatums aimed at Mexico, Trump has wielded threats, insults and punishments against his foreign counterparts with diminishing returns.

Though he lured Kim Jong Un to the negotiating table through a “maximum pressure” campaign of economic sanctions, Trump’s historic summits with the young dictator ended in failure after talks collapsed in February.

President Trump’s brinkmanship with Mexico over immigration has opened a new and risky front in his global campaign to pressure other nations to capitulate to his demands, a strategy that has paid few dividends over 2½ years and left his major foreign policy initiatives in doubt.

From his “fire and fury” rhetoric against a nuclear-armed North Korea to an escalating trade war with China to new ultimatums aimed at Mexico, Trump has wielded threats, insults and punishments against his foreign counterparts with diminishing returns.

Though he lured Kim Jong Un to the negotiating table through a “maximum pressure” campaign of economic sanctions, Trump’s historic summits with the young dictator ended in failure after talks collapsed in February.

And although Mexico took steps to comply with Trump’s hard-line immigration policies — allowing Central American asylum seekers to the United States a temporary haven — Trump’s vow this week to impose sweeping tariffs unless that nation curbs unauthorized immigration into the United States stirred a public backlash.

For Trump, who campaigned on achieving “peace through strength,” the consistent application of a tool kit of toughness has limited his options and left him in a precarious position as he accelerates his campaign for a second term.

Despite his pressure tactics, unauthorized immigration at the U.S.-Mexican border is at a 12-year peak, the tariff wars have sent jitters through Wall Street, and Pyongyang has resumed testing of short-range missiles, a sign that Kim is growing impatient.

“It strikes me that we are in the middle of an unprecedented and multifaceted experiment in the application of brute force,” said Daniel Russel, who served as an assistant secretary of state on Asian affairs in the Obama administration. “President Trump has been extraordinarily effective at generating leverage . . . but it has yet to be shown that he has the ability to translate that leverage into results that are advantageous to the United States or are durable.”

Trump campaigned on the theme that the rest of the world was taking advantage of the United States because of weak political leaders who valued multilateral partnerships over the unapologetic pursuit of national self-interest. He pledged that, as president, he would not hesitate to pressure rivals and allies alike to win a better deal for Americans.

“Mexico must take back their country from the drug lords and cartels,” Trump tweeted Friday. “The Tariff is about stopping drugs as well as illegals!”

Foreign leaders initially sought to placate him by offering modest concessions, hopeful that it would satisfy Trump’s domestic political imperatives by allowing him to trumpet small victories.

The Trump administration renegotiated a bilateral trade deal with South Korea and, after ripping up the 25-year old North American Free Trade Agreement, crafted a new accord with Mexico and Canada that experts said included valuable modernizations of some trade rules.

In Europe, some NATO members moved to accelerate previous pledges to increase their own national defense budgets amid Trump’s complaints that they were freeloading off the United States’ security umbrella — and his vague threats, first issued during his 2016 campaign, that he would pull out the United States of the alliance.

But on his signature initiatives, Trump’s go-to tactics have faltered and the president has grown increasingly frustrated, prompting him in recent weeks to escalate his threats and punitive actions.

In early May, for example, after U.S. negotiators accused Beijing of attempting to backtrack on agreements after months of trade talks, Trump responded by raising tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods that he enacted last year from 10 percent to 25 percent.

That prompted Beijing to announce it would “fight to the end” and raise duties on $60 billion of American goods on June 1.

Trump administration officials have said the president feels emboldened by the strength of the U.S. economy and believes he can outlast his rivals in a showdown that could harm both economies. But some analysts said that the president could be dangerously miscalculating his position given the uncertainty of his own political prospects.

“I know that Trump considers the 2020 campaign as a triumphant march to the inevitable [reelection], but that’s not the way the rest of the world is looking at it,” said Christopher R. Hill, who served as a U.S. ambassador under the four presidents who preceded Trump. “You’re already seeing the Chinese holding back and saying, ‘We’ll see what will happen over the next 18 months to see if he’s still around and then maybe we’ll do something.’ To some extent, Trump does not have the self-awareness to understand that people are looking at the window closing on him.”

For Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador, a liberal who took office in December, Trump’s threats are a serious concern, given that 80 percent of Mexico’s exports enter the U.S. market. But López Obrador, who dispatched diplomats to visit Washington on Friday, is facing increasing calls from the public and political columnists to take a tougher line with the White House.

Trump, frustrated by Mexico’s refusal to pay for a border wall, flirted with a plan to seal the southern border to trade and tourism in April before backing off over concerns from advisers about the effect on the American economy. This week, however, amid reports that U.S. authorities apprehended nearly 120,000 unauthorized immigrants at the border last month, Trump overrode similar warnings from aides.

What’s so striking with him is his willingness to pick multiple fights without thinking through the consequences,” said Eliot Cohen, a former State Department adviser in the George W. Bush administration who organized a “Never Trump” coalition of foreign policy experts during the 2016 campaign. “The Mexico thing is a great example. It could really hurt him domestically.”

Other analysts noted that Trump’s trade war with China could harm his efforts to negotiate a nuclear weapons disarmament pact with North Korea, given that the president has counted on Beijing maintaining tough economic sanctions on Pyongyang.

But Trump has shown few signs of second-guessing himself. He has threatened new auto tariffs on Japan to win leverage in ongoing trade talks, although he announced during a state visit to Tokyo last week that he would delay any action for six months.

And Trump’s reputation for hostility has preceded him. In London, where Trump will arrive next week on a state visit to meet Queen Elizabeth, Sky News broadcast a promotional video featuring a Trump baby balloon, flown by protesters during Trump’s visit last summer, darkening the skies with the ominous tag­line, “He’s back.”

“One of Trump’s major failings is that he only has a hammer,” said Andrea Schneider, a professor of law at Marquette University who focuses on negotiations and has studied Trump’s tactics. “He has no capacity of looking at the long term and recognizing that the vast majority of our interactions in life are repeat interactions. I joke with my students that if you treat negotiations as a one-shot deal, it will be. No one will ever want to deal with you again.”