When former National Security Advisor John Bolton voted for Donald Trump in 2016 he decided to roll the dice on an unknown instead of backing a Democrat. Amb. Bolton made a similar gamble when he joined the Trump administration thinking he could help guide what he knew was a problematic approach to foreign policy. His new book “The Room Where It Happened” is out now. #StephenAtHome #JohnBolton #BoltonBook
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>> WHAT– WHAT– WHAT I THOUGHT IN 2016 WAS WE AT LEAST HAVE TO
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TRY IT OUT.
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AND SO I VOTE FOR TRUMP.
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HAVING EXPERIENCED 17 MONTHS OF WORKING WITH HIM, I CAN’T IN
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GOOD CONSCIENCE DO THAT AGAIN.
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AND THAT’S WHY I’M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM, AND I’M NOT GOING
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TO VOTE FORED BY GREN.
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>> Stephen: I GUESS WHAT’S EXASPERATING IS THERE IS
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ABSOLUTELY NOTHING DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE THAT IS SURPRISING TO
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ME.
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MY RULE IS EVERYTHING THAT YOU THINK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP IS
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PROBABLY TRUE.
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BECAUSE HE’S NOT DEEP ENOUGH TO GET YOUR SOCKS WET IN.
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HE’S INCREDIBLY READABLE.
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THAT’S WHY WHEN HE RAN CASINOS, THE HOUSE LOST.
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THERE’S NOTHING TO LEARN ABOUT HIM.
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THAT’S WHY HE’S ESSENTIALLY A BORING PERSON.
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HOW DID YOU NOT KNOW BEFOREHAND THAT HE WAS JUST HOLLOW?
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>> BECAUSE I COULDN’T BELIEVE IT WAS THAT BAD.
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AND I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE SAY THEY SAW IT FROM THE BEGINNING —
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>> Stephen: BUT YOU’RE AN INTERNATIONAL NEGOTIATOR.
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HOW COULD YOU BE NAIVE?
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YOU’VE DEALT WITH THE WORST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
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>> YOU’VE REALLY INSULTED ME NOW BY CALLING ME NAIVE.
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LOOK, I THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY.
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I THOUGHT SURELY THEY WOULD WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE COMPLEXITYES
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OF ARMS CONTROL NEGOTIATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
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AND AS I DETAIL IN THE BOOK, THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE TRUE.
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>> Stephen: AMBASSADOR, WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK, BUT