Joe Rogan & Michael Malice on Trump’s Trolling

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that’ss eyes that are for people who are
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actually suffering minorities be like no
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no this is not cool so she’s not saying
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this from small blogs I’m not seeing
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this from anything main strike yep
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correct because mainstream they’re
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always gonna cover for this that right
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100% of the time yeah they’re gonna
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cover their the thing about those blogs
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is like a lot of them are basically like
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Ari Shaffir refers to them as like
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college papers yeah it’s like a lot of
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these blogs so a college student written
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yeah but they’re often speaking truth oh
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yeah well I would hope I would hope more
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would come out and say hey you can’t say
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you’re Native American just like like
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you imagine the outrage if I just
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started call myself African American
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well do you know what did you see what
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Trump said he said well I can’t call her
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Pocahontas anymore because she’s not an
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Indian and I’m just like oh my god we’re
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not worthy he says some hilarious shit
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oh yeah he really does he really does
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he’s fucking funny off-the-cuff oh yeah
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really is you know and the way he goes
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after people like even though he’s the
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president like he still calls people
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fucking losers I mean he’s still he
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still caused him losers on Twitter and
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goes after them horse face horse face he
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called star McDaniels horse face just
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think of how repulsive he is physically
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he’s fat his faces all fuckin hanging
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off of his bones he’s got white raccoon
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eyes and orange skin and yet he still
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will mock stormy Daniels and call her
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horse face someone tweeted out I forget
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who and I apologized the thing he said
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they go imagine what happens that he
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Trump’s the first person who fucked a
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porn star and she had to brag about it
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and then she paid him yeah yeah well he
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did pay her right but what he paid her
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what she’s gonna have to pay him is
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probably like a factor of three or fours
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I mean how much more she’s gonna wanna
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pain yes for 350k that’s all he asked
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for you uh that’s proved very reasonable
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yeah that doesn’t even cover her book
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yes that’s probably like he just wants
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just be done like that yet it just yet
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give me that paper yeah just give me a
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little something I need a little
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something from you
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with this let this slide I want 300,000
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yeah yeah it’s probably her book that’s
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really all the money no she got more
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than 350 I’m positive
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how much you think she got for that book
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750 I’d guess yeah but she’s got to pay
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taxes sure
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and her agents getting 15 yeah she’s
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probably not even bringing three home so
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it’s all that’s money’s gone oh yeah
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that’s all gone all gone 100% gone and
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no one’s buying that book it stiffed
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yeah yeah nobody gives a shit
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she said it already like I fucked the
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president that’s your book your book as
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I fucked the president well you know
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here’s the funny part with her remember
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this people she was making fun of his
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dick like she’d hit a mushroom deck
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whatever and people are like that’s what
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she said
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and then people were like that you know
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as fucked up as he is that’s body
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shaming he really shouldn’t make fun of
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someone and she’s like you know what
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you’re right I’m sorry
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and then he goes hey horse face she lost
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his fucking mushroom dick at like the
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next day she’s back on it it was amazing
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[Laughter]
The fact that he can call her horse face
and he’s the president on twitter..
But she doesn’t even have a horse face.
It doesn’t matter. I know but it’s just
so weak I mean Ted Cruz really isn’t the
Unabomber or whatever
the fuck you said
he was say that that’s the name they
cease is that Jeff gay fucking it’s also
crazy that was the best part so ted
cruz’s was known as like the best
debater in the senate he had this
Harvard or Yale whatever debating team
great debater everyone we recognized him
for this how did the fuck do you prep
for a debate be like oh yeah well your
dad shot JFK
it’s like what the fuck
wait what well It didn’t have to make
sense right people the people that hurt
Trump supporters don’t want to make
sense they just want him to win right

right exactly and it works yes yeah well
he’s just had to get zingers in oh yeah
yeah I mean it’s like roast battle more
than right and they don’t get that there
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was this my favorite tweet of his my
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favorite where he goes whenever I speak
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of the losers and the haters I do so
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with great affection it’s not their
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fault they were born fucked up at
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exclamation point that’s a real tweet
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tweet it’s the best one
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and it’s true yeah you know one of my
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favorite things was him at a speech
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where he was talking it was 2015 before
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he even talked about running for
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president or it was even I don’t think
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he was a hundred percent open about
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running for president and he said
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there’s two ways to talk to China you
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could you know could prose things you
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could propose things and he says it like
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you know normally and then he says or
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you could say listen motherfucker yeah
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you heard that no oh my god it’s great
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fucking pull it it’s it’s fucking great
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because everybody starts cheering yeah
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because it’s so forbidden in this
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environment wearing an expensive suit
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standing in front of a podium he says or
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you could say listen motherfuckers like
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this is what we’re gonna do and
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everybody started yeah it’s so exciting
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it’s so much more exciting then Marco
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Rubio or you know someone boom Jeb is a
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waste jam is a big fat mistake I watched
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those videos which speech he wasted June
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of 25th now when he said mother when
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he’s just just not speech when he’s
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talking about China and he said listen I
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the fuckers China China China yeah that
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was a thing Puerto Rican when he ordered
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I’m announcing a ban on all Muslim
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immigration Muslim here this is a great
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one do this because it’s leadership this
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time instead of with his name in gold
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it’s with his words this is discussing
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Iraq we build a school we build a road
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they blow up the road they blow up the
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school we build another school we build
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another road they blow them up we build
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again in the meantime we can’t get a
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school built in Brooklyn do the
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audience’s approval talking oil we have
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nobody in Washington that sits back and
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said you’re not going to raise that
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price you understand me
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this is a long time ago sing Chinese
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goods here’s your mother we’re gonna tax
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you 25% while poles 2011 is that what it
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says over there yeah but here’s what’s
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interesting notice the person who posted
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their name is say no to racists yeah
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they probably put it up as a negative
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thing
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well no 2011 he would have been
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considered a Democrat right oh no he’s
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endorsed Romney he endorsed Romney
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Republican race he was a Democrat until
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what 2010 probably around then because
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he was gonna run independent at some
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point Trump 2012 look at that this is
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the guy we’ve been looking for ha ha ha
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seven years ago but it’s just deplorable
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what changed it they probably damaged it
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in the future because it says seven
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years yeah fuck that’s the time travel
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that hack join read uh yeah someone did
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it someone definitely hacked it yeah
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just hilarious they didn’t give the good
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version of that either because they
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believed in it well not just that
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because you also see if you can find the
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better version because he basically
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practices it like you know people been
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saying it like this right you can say it
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like this or you can say listen you
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motherfuckers and that’s when everybody
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starts cheering he actually gave an
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example yeah he actually guys what can
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you do yeah so easy I drop a twenty five
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percent tax on China
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and you know I said to somebody that is
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really the messenger the messenger is
important I could have one man saying
way to tax you 25% and I could say
another listen you motherfuckers brooder
Here’s how the Press lies on the campaign
trail he set a point I remember it was
the sense of it goes you better shut
your mouth so he didn’t say the word
mm-hmm they bleeped it and they bleeped
it to make it look like he was cursing
and he’s like you guys are fucking shady
as hell
that’s very Shady yeah that’s Shady you
can’t just bleep a pause and pretend
that there’s some sort of an offensive
word in there right so that’s really
that’s just deceptive right and it’s
pervasive they do it all the fucking
time
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well who’s good out there to challenge
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him they’re fucked all right fuck you
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know why they’re fucked why because
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we’ve never had this happen before the
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whole time all those Democrats are
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fighting each other for the primary for
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the nomination he’s gonna be tweeting
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the shit out of those debates he’s gonna
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be live tweeting the debates right and
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they’re not gonna they have to worry
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about the tax from their colleagues but
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also from the sitting president I was
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like look at this dope and he’s gonna
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come up with nicknames right now this
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stick Danang dick he already did I’m
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like it’s amazing to demand dick
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Blumenthal senator from Connecticut lied
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about his Vietnam service oh no I
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started calling him Danang dick he lied
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about his Vietnam service so got elected
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yeah Wow
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shameless yeah how did he lie what did
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he say he said he served and he didn’t
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look it up yeah I mean it’s it’s it is
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brazen it wasn’t some ambiguous area I
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think he’s like he never left America is
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my understanding oh yeah

James Rickards: “Donald Trump is a Genius”

Preview of Sunday’s episode: James Rickards is a renowned lawyer, economist, and finance expert. Jim is also the author of Currency Wars: The Making of the Next Global Crisis and five other books.

The Only Time Trump Wants International Cooperation

PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS / AP
Love your nation. Celebrate its sovereignty. Never buy into the misguided idea that someone else’s country should tell you how to run yours. President Donald Trump’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly last week was an ode to chest-thumping nationalism. But in one specialized field of human endeavor, Trump seems to believe that America is not nearly great enough: sliming political rivals.

As a presidential candidate, now and in 2016, Trump has tried to outsource opposition research to countries whose legal systems are awash in corruption or tainted by political influence.

Three years ago, he looked into a bank of TV cameras and implored Russia, “if you’re listening,” to find Hillary Clinton’s deleted State Department emails. (Russia was listening and, we’ve since learned, hopped right to it, as Robert Mueller’s investigation showed.) Trump now faces an impeachment investigation in the House for pressuring Ukraine to dig up damaging information about the 2020 Democratic front-runner, former Vice President Joe Biden. Heedless of the impeachment machinery whirring on Capitol Hill, he stood outside the White House on Thursday and told reporters that he’d like to see the Chinese investigate the business dealings of Biden’s son Hunter in their country.

In so many other arenas, Trump has denounced and ditched international cooperation. He pulled out of the Iran nuclear agreement and the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership, both of which Barack Obama had negotiated. He’s questioned whether the NATO military alliance is worth the price. “America first” was the slogan that helped Trump win the presidency. But he doesn’t seem to believe it’s the tactic that will help him keep it.

Trump sees foreign-policy priorities as bargaining chips, advancing or discarding them as his needs change. In an example from 2017, he dialed back public criticism of China because he wanted the country’s help ending North Korea’s nuclear program. That summer, his aides had drafted a speech aimed at intellectual-property theft, which they viewed as a bedrock Chinese trade practice. At Trump’s insistence, they eliminated virtually all references to China in hopes of not offending its leadership at a time when he was coaxing them to lean on North Korea.

These sorts of calculations fall within the bounds of traditional statecraft. What happens, though, when Trump tosses domestic politics into the mix? What if China agreed to plow forward with an investigation into the Bidens at Trump’s behest? Could that induce Trump to go softer in U.S.-China trade talks—negotiations that influence the price of consumer goods, the livelihood of American farmers, and employment levels? When a president conflates personal politics with the national interest, we’re left to wonder.

If Trump was worried about possible corruption involving Americans overseas, he could turn to his own country’s investigators for help examining their dealings. There is, of course, a law-enforcement agency with a long tradition of investigatory work here in the sovereign United States: the FBI. It would be an abuse of power for Trump to order the FBI or the Justice Department to fast-track an investigation into any political opponent, but he would be within his rights to pass along what information he may have, Richard Painter, who was the chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, told me.

But Trump doesn’t want the bureau on the case. He’s spent much of his presidency savaging the FBI and the broader U.S. intelligence community, airing baseless accusations that they spied on him during the 2016 election. In an interview with ABC News in June, Trump was dismissive of the notion that it’s wrong for foreign governments to provide dirt on political opponents, and that the right thing for campaigns to do when they’re contacted is to involve the FBI.

“But when somebody comes up with oppo research, right, they come up with oppo research, ‘Oh, let’s call the FBI.’ The FBI doesn’t have enough agents to take care of it,” Trump told the network’s George Stephanopoulos.

Trump conveyed his disdain for the bureau’s leadership—officials he appointed—when Stephanopoulos reminded him that FBI Director Christopher Wray had recently testified to Congress that campaigns should report instances of foreign interference in U.S. elections. “The FBI director is wrong, because frankly it doesn’t happen like that in life,” Trump said. What’s wrong is not only saying, as Trump once did, that you’d accept help from foreign countries in an election, but strong-arming them into tarring a political opponent. After he said he’d like China to probe the Bidens, the Federal Election Commission chairwoman, Ellen Weintraub, retweeted a message she’d sent over the summer that it’s illegal to solicit something of value from a foreign national as part of a U.S. election.

“Is this thing on?” Weintraub wrote, cheekily, using a microphone emoji.

Between the entreaties made to China and Ukraine, it’s clear the blowback from 2016 has not made the president any more cautious, and he continues to blur the lines between his own interests and his duties as head of state. Take the batch of text messages released by House Democrats late Thursday night. Right before a July phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Kurt Volker, a former U.S. special envoy to Ukraine, sent a message to a Zelensky aide. The note suggests that a summit meeting between the two leaders was conditioned on Ukraine’s willingness to investigate a discredited theory that Russia might not have been the ones that pilfered Democratic emails in the 2016 race.

Writing that he had “heard from the White House,” Volker told the aide that if Zelensky would agree in the call to “get to the bottom of what happened in 2016,” the administration would “nail down” a meeting between the presidents.

The texts show Ukraine was reluctant to go along with the scheme, which smacks of a quid pro quo. In one note in July, William Taylor, the top U.S. diplomat there, wrote that Zelensky was “sensitive about Ukraine being taken seriously, not merely as an instrument in Washington domestic, reelection politics.” Yet Ukraine may have decided that defying Trump is too risky. New reports show that Ukraine’s prosecutor general is reviewing how the country handled an investigation into the energy company Burisma Group, on whose board Hunter Biden sat. That inquiry could ostensibly lead to the sort of renewed investigation into the Bidens that Trump wants done.

There’s no obvious parallel to a president so brazenly enlisting foreign countries in schemes to discredit political rivals. As a Republican candidate in the 1968 presidential race, Richard Nixon took steps to sabotage then-President Lyndon Johnson’s efforts to reach a Vietnamese peace deal. Using private surrogates, Nixon delivered a message to South Vietnamese President Nguyen Van Thieu that if he delayed, he might get better terms in a Nixon presidency. Nixon’s aim was to deprive the Democrats of a breakthrough in the war that might tip the election in Vice President Hubert Humphrey’s favor. Johnson would later complain that the ploy amounted to “treason,” as the author John Farrell described in his biography of Nixon.

But Nixon was only a candidate at the time, a private citizen. Trump is a sitting president.

“If you want democracy, hold onto your sovereignty,” he said in his U.N. speech. In the months leading up to that address, we now know, he was compromising U.S. sovereignty and weakening its democracy, all to extinguish the chances of a campaign opponent. In the week after the speech, nothing’s changed.

China Hardens Trade Stance as Talks Enter New Phase

Chinese negotiators emboldened by perception U.S. was willing to compromise

The hardened battle lines were prompted by Beijing’s decision to take a more aggressive stance in negotiations, according to the people following the talks. They said Beijing was emboldened by the perception that the U.S. was ready to compromise.

  1. In particular, these people said, Mr. Trump’s hectoring of Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell to cut interest rates was seen in Beijing as evidence that the president thought the U.S. economy was more fragile than he claimed.
  2. Beijing was further encouraged by Mr. Trump’s frequent claim of friendship with Chinese President Xi Jinping and by Mr. Trump’s praise for Chinese Vice Premier Liu He for pledging to buy more U.S. soybeans.

An April 30 tweet, in which Mr. Trump coupled criticism of Mr. Powell with praise of Chinese economic policy, especially caught the eye of senior officials. “China is adding great stimulus to its economy while at the same time keeping interest rates low,” Mr. Trump tweeted. “Our Federal Reserve has incessantly lifted interest rates.”

Why would you be constantly asking the Fed to lower rates if your economy is not turning weak,” said Mei Xinyu, an analyst at a think tank affiliated with China’s Commerce Ministry. If the U.S.’s resolve was weakening, the thinking in Beijing went, the U.S. would be more willing to cut a deal, even if Beijing hardened its positions.

That assessment, however, flies in the face of a strong U.S. economy. Gross domestic product in the first quarter rebounded from the end of 2018, with growth clocking in at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 3.2%, up from 2.2% the prior quarter. The jobs report for April, released on Friday, showed the unemployment rate falling to 3.6%, the lowest in nearly 50 years.

But at the same time, China’s economy has stabilized this year following months of weakness. Although China’s exports dropped unexpectedly in April, its first-quarter growth came in at 6.4%, beating market expectations. The generally improving economic picture gave Beijing more confidence in trade talks, as did a recent conference on the country’s vast infrastructure-spending program, called the Belt and Road Initiative, which was attended by about 40 heads of government and state.

Chinese leaders saw the conference turnout “as China has more leverage to improve relations with other countries and with the U.S. business community,” said Brookings Institution China specialist Cheng Li. “It made them play hardball.”

If China misread the signals—and vice versa—it wouldn’t be the first time.

The history of U.S.-China trade negotiations is filled with misunderstandings, as the two nations, with very different political systems, struggle to figure out each other’s intentions.

.. In another apparent sign of mixed signals, Trump administration officials had thought they had made it clear that they were weary of negotiations and that it was time for Beijing to make specific commitments to change laws, including adding protections for intellectual property and barring the forced transfer of U.S. technology.

As talks resume Thursday, one big question mark is whether China will agree to U.S. demands for changes in Chinese law to implement the trade deal. Beijing maintains this would impinge on Chinese sovereignty and take too long to implement, but Beijing had made similar commitments in prior trade deals, including those it signed to join the WTO in 2001.

U.S. officials say Beijing has failed to make good on those commitments, while China has promised to further liberalize its economy.

“The U.S. is correct to seek a multiprong approach of not relying solely on commitments but also actually changes to the laws, so as to ensure Chinese leadership intentions are fully conveyed down to all local levels of government,” said Harvard Law Professor Mark Wu.