Wasn’t the demonstration at the Capitol “mostly peaceful”?

The demonstration at the Capitol on January 6 was mostly peaceful, in the same sense that a spear is mostly not pointy. But the point of the spear is its salient feature. If you look at a long wooden pole without a point on either end, you call it a staff. With a point, you call it a spear.

Similarly, there may well have been 10,000 peaceful demonstrators, who were just out for a stroll on a brisk January afternoon. But that does not lessen in any way the guilt of the 500 or so highly motivated and highly organized insurrectionists, nor the guilt of those who wound them up and organized them.

Q: Wasn’t the demonstration at the Capitol “mostly peaceful”?

These are mess cooks, clerks, some (but not all) medical personnel and engineers, people who run the comms, people who provide the electric power and fresh water, people who handle the logistics, transportation and supply, even people who do the laundry. These people are frequently referred to as “fobbits” (they are put up and work in a well-protected Forward Operating Base, and rarely venture outside the wire), or “pogues” (POGs, persons other than grunts). They are deployed with the forces, are away from family and friends back home; they are in a risky location not completely out of harm’s way, and they share many if not all of the same hardships, and provide essential functions to the front line units, so they rate at least that much respect. But even over there, while there’s shooting going on, they have a relatively “peaceful” existence and are just doing their job of supporting the fighting troops or Marines.

By your “mostly peaceful” standard . . . any WAR that we get into is “mostly peaceful”!

“Mostly peaceful” doesn’t get it when ten percent of a group is getting destructive and violent (and only ten percent actually killing people and breaking things, with the other participants serving in support roles, is all that even the Army and Marines seem to think it takes to fight a war), and if that’s what you’re there to support, then you’re just as foul as the people there who are actually getting destructive and violent.

Certainly, like the rest of us, you learned back in high school and college, that when you’re at a party and things are starting to get a little too wild, it’s time to go home — stick around and you’re going to end up getting into trouble, right along with a lot of people there who you just know, from the way things are going, are going to get into trouble later in the evening. If you were in that crowd in Washington on January 6th, why didn’t you think of it on that day?

And if you were too much a part of that crowd . . . Donald Trump is not going to help you out of this one. Quite the contrary, he’s going down with you.

And that’s just the way it should be.

The Constitution of the United States is the fundamental law that makes our country what it is. It embodies the design that makes the nation we know and love to function in ways we count on it to work. It is the basic agreement that we all agree, whatever our other differences, to go by. If you take up arms against the constitutional order of the United States as those people did on January 6, if you attempt the use of force to prevent its functioning as provided in the document, or if you adhere to and support and give aid and comfort to those who do, you become an enemy of my country.

And we have a problem.

 

I have written on this subject several times, not just about the Capitol “event” but also about BLM supported protests.

In each demonstration there is a range of people. Many demonstrations are peaceful throughout because the participants have peaceful intentions. I know people disagree, but the actual data on BLM protests show that the protests were largely peaceful. There were protests that were marred by violence, and after investigation the facts often showed that the violence was the result of a small group of anarchists and of white supremacists who wanted to counter the protests. Thus, although BLM gets the blame in certain quarters, it often is not at fault.

Similarly ,in the Capitol demonstration there was a range of participants. A significant number of the participants were not involved in violent behavior. It is true that the reason for the demonstration was a false premise, that the election was stolen, but that does not alter the fact that many people did not want to, nor did they, participate in the trespass and violence. There was, however, a gathering of participants, generally white supremacists, Qanon, and similar groups, who actively planned and contemplated a violent trespass and takeover of the Capitol. How many has not yet been completely determined, but the nature of the planned activity, the setting, and the results set this event apart, for obvious reasons. (This is why the DOJ both during the Trump administration and now in the Biden administration believe that the white supremacist and related movements pose the greatest threat of domestic violence. So in this instance the entire demonstration catches the blame. One should note, however, that this analysis does not necessarily absolve those who stoked the passions of the demonstrators, both before and the day of the demonstration. That remains to be analyzed when the investigations are concluded. That is why a thorough investigation needs to be conducted.

 

Sure, except for the pipe bombs and the bear spray and the hanging gallows and the destroyed property and the rioting and the assault on police officers and the feces smeared on walls and the zip ties and the white supremacists wearing the Camp Auschwitz stuff and the confederate flag and the calls to execute Pence and members of Congress , it was totally peaceful.

I’m sure I’m missing some details here but seriously, in what universe was that “mostly peaceful?”

 

 

 

How would each MBTI type handle being a mother? What would be your specific advice for each time at being a better mother?

ESTJ

– Highly capable and responsible, will organise and align their children to a set standard they expect that was established from their own experiences growing up.

– Will struggle extremely with applying a necessary sensitive approach to avoid greater parental problems, choosing instead to maintain a solid logic driven answer to all problems.

ISTJ

– With little support, they will still hold their offspring up and would equally baby them as much as they are hard on them to make them the best they can be based off of their own standards.

-Will struggle with understanding the need to allow some freedom out of the norm they know and consider acceptable.

ESFJ

– Reluctant mothers unless social expectations force them into it, at their best, will be highly understanding and accepting and seemingly will have a relaxed but firm way of keeping things in order.

– Will struggle with acknowledging critical flaws in their approaches to parenting that may lead to fatal consequences for their children if they don’t have a point of support with someone with better judgement in that area. Will fall into neglecting their parental duties if their personal needs are not met.

ISFJ

– Highly capable mothers, knowing how to calmly but effectively nurture and demand respect and order when necessary, will do their best to keep their children on the path to what they have come to know as a good life.

-Will struggle extremely if they have no support to relieve them of the responsibility of keeping everything in relentless strict order, having a partner is for them a necessity that is hard for to ignore when they have offspring.

ESFP

– Highly caring will always make it clear they would die for their children and carry the world if necessary, usually very lenient choosing to listen and find a compromise with their children as a friend.

-Will struggle with individually keeping order of even the most basic things, will not sacrifice being adored and socially accepted for enforcement of necessary order and rules. Left alone in the venture, they might fall into creating a household that is too volatile and lenient to be safe and effective for good development .

ISFP

– Seemingly stable, with a reliable partner, will make sure to shower their offspring with love inspired gifts and try to give them the best life possible in accordance to their current social norm.

-Will crumble when left to the responsibility individually, will be easily taken advantage of when they want to avoid conflict and choose to be lenient.

ESTP

– Easily exemplified by the female lion raising its cubs, the basic understanding of what being a mother is stays firmly edged in them and they will use a constant and singular logical judgement to deal with everything that is required in the process.

-Will struggle with taking responsibility and when they don’t have their feelings acknowledged, will temporarily turn violent.

ISTP

– Generally unfit and or unwilling mothers, have solid expectations that they will not shift on no matter what, will approach the task as a forced responsibility that they will let go off when they are logically or legally allowed to do so.

-Will struggle with being emotionally supportive and available, won’t try to build a bond with their offspring unless it is socially required or relevant.

ENFJ

– Highly caring and available mothers, always there when their children cry out and will not let much go unresolved, usually knows when to stop the fun and demand order and functionality, always thinking about their children’s future, they will do whatever it takes to build a great future for them.

-Will be an easy victim of emotional manipulation leading to many critically damaging leniencies, will not care about much else when their basic needs are not met, will need support from a partner holding a stricter approach to parenting.

INFJ

– Extremely affectionate and available for their offspring, will gladly take on the world to protect them, they study them to the point of knowing how to effectively and calmly demand order when it is needed, will be open to their offspring being whatever they desire, simply choosing to support them and be a source of inspiration for them.

-Will close off and handle constant and persistent undermining or their feelings with brief and sharp displays of power.

ENTP

– Highly responsible with a brilliant ability to be both an understanding and lenient parent their offspring can joke with and also a strict and extremely logic driven parent with little tolerance for reckless or harmful behaviours, they naturally know how to keep order and push their offspring toward a future with great potential and variety while still being emotionally available for them whenever they are needed in that way.

-Will not enjoy having to individually take on the responsibility majority of the time if it suffocates their need for free thinking and exploration.

INTP

– Takes their responsibilities with a firm yet lenient approach, highly value quality time and creating memories with their offspring, will do what they can to set them up for the best life they can have.

-Will struggle with upholding necessary rules and lines that should not be crossed in trying to avoid future problems, has a low tolerance for lacks in adherence to their own social expectations and will gladly impose their will onto their offspring if given the chance( usually in the early years of development), can be accused of being open minded in ways they do not need to be and should not be.

ENFP

– An exemplary level of caring and supportive parenting, they do whatever they can to keep their offspring happy and out of danger, in many ways they try and establish themselves as the first person their children think of when they need support or a shoulder to cry on, they will quickly adapt and act when they need to take full and sole responsibility for them.

-Will struggle with creating and effectively upholding rules of engagement, will need to be dragged to their limits to snap and enforce a strict and unwavering order

INFP

– Have an extreme love for their offspring and will gladly do anything for them, tries to free up their offspring to making their own life and focuses on giving them the options they should need in accordance to what they see fit and what they have experienced growing up.

-Will not be good at carrying on an intended strict order, has a small battery for managing the many requirements of maintaining functionality and and stability, will crumble without support unless favourable circumstances are present.

ENTJ

– Hard set objectivity with an unwavering need to build a bright future for their offspring, little time spent attending to sensitivities, all is dealt with a consideration of the big picture or long term goal hence many things will only appear in their true caring intention in the actual future, all things done are with a sharp eye set constantly on the future, allows their children to make their own decisions.

-Will have a hard time adjusting to sensitivities that may make or break bonds with their offspring, low tolerance for slacking from their children that takes them off path.

INTJ

– Highly balanced and capable, above loving their children to extreme and unwavering lengths they will take the responsibility as another thing to perfect and do as rightly and appropriately as possible, will seemingly be a rock for their children as a source of solutions and emotional support when desperately needed, strict rules and stability are firmly maintained in all areas necessary, their offspring will be positioned and trained to be able to support themselves and be the best version they can be.

-Will struggle with acknowledging the time for them to stop being responsible and release built up tension in a healthy way, has little room for potentially needed leniency.

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Why do people have such divergent perspectives on the Mueller Report, ranging from Trump being completely exonerated to Trump being guilty of obstruction of justice and impeachable?

Bob Sacamano
Bob Sacamano, studied Useless Information. at School of Hard Knocks
I believe that I have an example that may answer this. After Barr released the redacted Mueller report, I watched the first half of the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC and later the first half of the Hannity show on Fox.

Maddow is biased, I have no disagreement about that but the coverage she gave was completely different from Hannity. Maddow took direct quotes from the report and discussed it with her guests. She easily discussed over ten direct quotes from the report in less than half an hour. She may have taken some quotes out of context, I have not read the report yet. Obviously she also chose quotes that would reinforce her narrative. Just remember, I am not claiming that Maddow is not biased.

Hannity spent the vast majority of the first half of his show ranting about Obama, Mueller, Hillary, Loretta Lynch, the deep state, Democrats in general, etc. After about twenty minutes Hannity finally took a direct quote from the report. A quote from Trump. Hannity then went back to ranting about all the people previously mentioned. Maybe he took more direct quotes later, I can only watch so much Hannity before I vomit.

So, Hannity claims that Trump is exonerated but he cited nothing from the report to back this up. Maddow tried to back up everything she said with a direct quote from the report. The reason why people have different perspectives is because of where they get their news. Liberals may watch biased news but at least they try to back it up with facts. Many conservatives get their news from propagandists. Sadly it appears as if many conservatives don’t know propaganda when they see it.

I should probably add this. In the thirty minutes I watched, Maddow asked her viewers to read the Mueller report for themselves several times. Hannity did not ask his viewers to read the Mueller report once in the thirty minutes I watched.

Why do so many Americans continue to support a president who has been shown to be dishonest and unreliable in every way and at every level?

You might argue that (based on some of his statements) he is racist against Latinos or Arabs. But I have never heard him say or heard of him doing anything racist against black Americans – and yet people on the left act as if he is the most vehemently racist person in the world and every black person should be against him without any evidence to support such a view.

Leftist accuse him of being a “liar” when all I see is a man who speaks (unadvisedly) off-the-cuff without first checking the actual facts. He does not so much knowingly lie as he is just careless with the truth. He is a serial exaggerator, but he believes what he is saying and he has some (flawed) basis for believing what he does. But compare that to Clinton, who knowingly and deliberately lied directly to the voters and under oath in a court of law. I remember leftists defended him at the time because “he didn’t lie about policy, just about a private matter” but they also had no problem with Obama deliberately lying about policy when he told us we could keep our doctors. I do not mean to play a game of “what about,” but every time I hear a leftist talk about how dishonest Trump is, I cannot help but think of these sorts of things.

Continuing with the theme of “dishonest and unreliable,” we need to consider his record on campaign promises in relation to others. I have seen some respond by mocking him and his supporters for making a big deal about him just doing what any politician should do. These people must be too young to know how truly rare this is. Most Republicans have been voting for decades for politicians who say just what we want to hear, but then when they get elected never actually follow through on what they promised – in fact, they don’t even seem to try. How refreshing for us to actually watch a man not only follow through but be so obviously, desperately trying to accomplish everything he told us he would. How is that in any way “unreliable?” I loved GWB, but when he nominated Harriet Miers to the Supreme court that was unreliable.

Taking this one step further, I (as a responsible Republican voter) need to consider what would likely have happened if the Democrat had been elected instead. Would we have so many quality conservative judges and justices nominated and confirmed to the courts? Not a chance. Would we be fighting over a wall, or over amnesty for 12 million illegals? Would we have pulled out of the ridiculous Iran deal or the equally ridiculous Paris Accords, or doubled down on both? Would we have higher or lower taxes? Would we have more regulations or fewer? On issue after issue (that I care about), we are better off today than we would have been.

In no way do I believe that “Trump is the best president ever,” or anything silly like that. The man has many flaws and makes me cringe with many of the things he says. I still wish I had a better choice at the time. But given the options, and given the outcomes so far, I have no regrets about my choice. That and the terrible behavior of the Democrats for the last two years is why I still support the President.