War on Drugs creates public distrust, racial profiling, lies, and pretextual detentions

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Sources:

United States v. Robinson- https://bit.ly/38DJAau

Whren v. United States- https://bit.ly/3gX0kyJ

Yick Wo v. Hopkins- https://bit.ly/38NBVXY

Personnel Administrator of Massachusetts v. Feeney- https://bit.ly/3kwePdc

Illinois v. Caballes- https://bit.ly/3aYrksV

Rodriguez v. United States- https://bit.ly/2LS1sqc

Michigan v. Defillippo- https://bit.ly/3ycKfNU

Kolender v. Lawson- https://bit.ly/3F5ep7j

Florida v. Harris- https://bit.ly/3y315Pk

Efficacy of drug detection by fully-trained police dogs- https://bit.ly/39yEFez

Court Records (2018-TR-123713-A-O)- https://bit.ly/3FfATm3

 

Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByoL5

Real World Police’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChaE

Comments:

Look at the zeal with which he seeks to find suspicion in an ordinary person’s response to being approached with his level of aggression. Look at how thoroughly his desire to enforce drug busts—which are both profitable and valuable to him as a career move—corrupts his ability to to do his job properly. This entire situation is a ruse to bust someone for drugs. It has no legitimate traffic-enforcement purpose.

 

On top of that, there’s no actual complaint or meaningful indication of drug activity. This cop just pulled over some guy for a common, minor traffic thing and decided to turn his day into a nightmare, on the excuse that he reacted in a totally reasonable way (nervousness, invoking his rights) to a trap the cops manufactured to go fishing. The truth is that it wouldn’t matter how he reacted. They’d find an excuse to run the dog either way. This young man did exactly the right thing by invoking his rights.

 

On the cop’s own word, he doesn’t care about the traffic offenses in the least—even though he should, as traffic control is an important function that protects the public. He also doesn’t care about the rights of private citizens—arguably the most important function of his job—as evidenced by his willingness to play out this pretext to bully people into vehicle searches that contravene the spirit of the Fourth Amendment.

 

  • From :46 seconds to 1:36 the officers give 16 conflicting commands and ask 4 questions without waiting for an answer. This is very reminiscent of the Daniel Shaver murder. Luckily it didn’t play out that way this time.
  • Not only multiple commands, but contradictory commands as well. The cop told him to roll the window UP, then down. The guy literally did exactly what they told him to do, and somehow that is “suspicious”…
  • these tactics are taught. look up “verbal judo” on YouTube. you will find the guy who taught police how to do this, around the country, for decades. this ish is taught!
  • Don’t forget using the threat of issuing a ticket for the original pull over as leverage to progress their agenda.
  • It’s infuriating to watch how these cops use their authority to manipulate every act of compliance by this gentleman into a “suspicious” activity weaponized against him

 

  • “It’s not a big deal”, says the cop, while he’s making it a big deal. “Get your license and registration for me” says the cop who then wonders why the suspect is “reaching around “ for his license and registration.
  • Do you have license and registration, why are you reaching around so crazy?” That reminds me a lot of that video of the guy who was shot dead by the officer that was giving him multiple conflicting orders. “Get on the ground, don’t move, crawl towards me”. Forgot his name but this made me really upset that this officer did almost the same thing, like he was looking for an excuse to paint him as being aggressive to escalate the situation. Such scumbag cops
    • Once the officer accused him of reaching around when he was following the officers request I lost all trust in the officer.
  • As soon as I heard the cops say they were bringing in a drug dog, I knew that the dog would “find” something. Isn’t it amazing how that happens! You can tell that these cops have had practice shaking down people. People like these cops should not be in that job. They are not there to protect and serve, they are only there to serve themselves by playing these games as a way to gain favor from their bosses to advance their career.

I know it sounds extreme, but if the justice system itself won’t fix problems like this, our only peaceful option as individual citizens is to document the abuses and then avoid cities with police like this at all costs. It’s a slow bleed, but it will work. Starve them of taxes, tourism, and fines. Pressure the local government to fix the problem or watch itself gradually turn into a ghost town.

 

  • If any “thin blue line” fanboys are reading this….and still wonder why some of us don’t blindly admire cops…this video is one of the reasons why.

 

  • As a law abiding citizen, I’ve always resented that fact that I feel intimidated every time I see the police, LEO’s need to learn that their job is to protect and serve, it seems these days they’re more concerned with being sneaky and trying to shaft anyone they can because they noticed your brake light burned out before u could.
  • It’s unbelievable how there continues to be all these cops that don’t realize how much they terrify people with their very presence alone.
    • People are terrified for good reason!!! These agents of the state are dangerous!!

 

    • They absolutely realize that they intimidate community members that’s why they do it! They got off on this power trip.
    • I think they know exactly the effect they have on people, they just play dumb and abuse the fact that their victims are nervous and jittery

 

    • There is literally CASE law (I do not know it off hand) that says a little nervousness DURING a traffic stop is PERFECTLY NORMAL.

 

  • Typical copspeak/reaction. I got pulled over on the BW parkway once. As the cop was walking back to his car to run my ID, I yelled to him some pertinent info he needed. He ran back to my car and tried to say I was being aggressive for yelling. Sir, we’re next to a busy roadway, you wouldn’t hear a whisper.

 

  • He complies carefully with all their orders, they guilt-trip him for doing so, then they pull him out of the car without his consent, take away his cell phone after they said he could record, then keep telling him “You’re not in any kind of trouble”, as they handcuff him. Well that’s reassuring, and a great way to treat someone who’s “not in trouble”.

 

  • I can’t put into words how much this makes my blood boil. This could have been anyone here in the comments that it happens to. I do give the victim here an “A” for refusing to answer questions, and sticking to his right to not answer questions. If he follows up with an 18 USC 242 and 18 USC 241 federal lawsuit, I would promote that to an A+ Being nervous or sweating or fidgeting is no grounds for reasonable suspicion during a traffic stop: US V CHAVEZ VALENZUELA.

 

  • Ha, I got stopped a few weeks back, riding on my road bike for not yielding to a cop on a bike stop, coming down a bike trail! Yes, a bike stop, where there are Yield to pedestrians/cyclists signs everywhere. The guy got off his suv pretty aggressive & demanded for an I.D, like I had just ran a red light on a car. He kept demanding for my name or else he was going to write me a ticket, take me to jail & impound my $4,000 road bike. And I had read somewhere that cops can auction off your bike after 24 hours. Next thing I know, I had three cops pull up out of nowhere, one of them wanted to search me, but I did not consent & he backed off. I gave the aggressive cop my name. He goes back to his suv, 5 minutes later, he returned huffing & puffing & told me to, “Get the fu– out of here!”, in a scolding manner. I live like a block away from the local bike trail. I was shook. I’m 6’4 & built like a football player, but this skinny prick had the baseballs to speak to me like a school bully. The badge seems to give these cops a sense of “power” & entitlement. I did talk to a friend who is a lawyer, but since I did not get their name & badge numbers, I had nothing to persue. A month later & i’m still pissed about it. I worked my butt off to buy that bike. I was more scared of these pricks messing with my bike, than I had of going to jail. 🤣

 

  •  @Kermit Of War  Start wearing a GoPro when you’re on your bike for multiple reasons. It’s funny how different these clowns act when they know you’re recording them. Record every interaction you have with the Police for your safety and TRUTH, not their version of the event as they lie in their reports.
  • Officer: “I’m not forcing you to answer my questions” also Officer: “Answer my questions or I put you under arrest.”
  • “You got license and registration” “Why are you reaching” Garbage cop should lose his qualified immunity.
  • “I don’t consent to searches” “I dont wanna answer any questions” He’s exercising his rights and then they try to guilt him as if he’s “making them nervous” (the ones with the guns 💀), gaslight him and act like they arent pushing him on these things, this guys are on a power trip and crazy
  • “Get me your license and registration sir.” reaches for documents “What are you reaching around for? You got guns? Turn off your vehicle!” reaches for key “Why are you reaching around? Undo your seatbelt!” reaches for seatbelt “Stop reaching around!”
  • When I went through the police academy, the instructors always told us, “Laws are made to protect police officers.” It was detestable then and just as detestable now. I thank God I was smart enough to throw that career in the trash.

 

  • They asked him for his license, registration, proof of registration. Then accused him of reaching for something! If they are that terrified of a guy in that situation they should find another line of work!

 

  • I hate seeing this happen to people. I have been pulled over a few times in my life and each time I get extremely nervous and get a bad adrenaline rush. So much so that isn’t visible to the officers and I have been asked “why are you so nervous” it’s one of the most terrifying questions I have ever been asked by a police officer and even though I didn’t have anything to hide I still couldn’t explain to an officer why I was freaking out so bad, and IM WHITE, and I grew up with a father for a cop. If this is how I feel during a traffic stop then I can’t even begin to image how people of minorities, or other races feel during police interactions. My heart goes out to you and I truly hope that the police in this country get a serious reconstruction because this system is messed up.
  • “We’re looking for guns and narcotics” “you pulled me over for guns and narcotics?” “No” lol these corrupt cops are something else
  • “Roll your window updown.” “You got your license and registration? Why you reaching around all crazy?” Can’t even go 15 seconds into the encounter without cops doing things to intentionally confuse the citizen so they can make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

  • “Your not in any kind of trouble”
  • immediately cuff’s him, searches him, calls the drug dog, rips apart the car searching everything Yup, no trouble at all.
  • “You’re making me nervous” -the fully armed and armored person with another identically outfitted guy on his side talking to the unarmed guy he just detained for “reaching around” after being asked for his registration.
  • “You’re making me nervous” -the fully armed and armored person with another identically outfitted guy on his side talking to the unarmed guy he just detained for “reaching around” after being asked for his registration.
  • “he was acting weird” “I smelled drugs” Got to love the many completely unprovable claims cops can make to just trample over your rights.
    • It’s much easier to jump to conclusions when one already has a preconceived notion, as these LEOs have demonstrated It is the basis of prejudice.
    • Statements made with probable deniability gives them an out.
    • exactly and these ridiculous laws that give them discretion that clearly violates citizens rights
  • You know what also separates the community from law enforcement? Standing around while an active shooter runs through an elementary school, attack parents who want to get their kids, and then troopers get on the news and try to justify those actions.
  • this encounter hasn’t “tainted his view towards police officers”. It has set it straight, once and for all.
This guy is a lawyer’s dream client. Asserts his rights, remains calm and refuses to answer questions. Well done sir.
They badgered him from the start, he didn’t know which way was up or down but managed to keep calm.
 @kareem Spaulding  I’m so sorry you went through this, but I know I not alone in my admiration of you; the way you handled these fucks – and especially the way you handled yourself – would take some serious strength, self-control, and a calm and knowledgeable mind.
 @Calamity  it come from experience and knowledge
 @kareem Spaulding  It’s sad that you’ve had to build these abilities. I hope at least this turns out for you

 

 

The cop literally told him to roll his window up, then down, then all the windows down, and he complied with every demand. Then asked for license and registration and he went to get them and they say “he was reaching around and acting nervous”… Then the cop admitted to what there real intent was for the stop. This is a slam dunk violation of this man’s constitutional rights. The worst part is the cops legitimately believe they were in the right, even with it all ve recorded. Not even unbelievable anymore either, and that’s just f’ing sad.
  • Actually it’s not technically. The police are allowed to lie it’s some stupid Supreme Court case (yes unconstitutional but in America gov can do whatever they wat )
  • Don’t forget that the cop (I’ll edit the timestamp in) admitted that Spalding’s refusal to answer questions played a part in his decision to search the car. That’s a violation of his fifth amendment rights.
  • Edit: it’s at 6:55
  • Police officers are not allowed to tell any lie they want! They are limited by situation, purpose, and even permission.
  •  @Matt Boyd  First, Fourth and Fifth Amendment Rights were Violated.
  • When i was homeless i was sleeping outside in the cold winter. A cop wake me up with a kick in the ribs, told me gtfo or he would break my legs, then i get up to leave and the other cop threw me on the groud because i was “fleeing the scene”.
  • I don’t get pulled over often. But when I do I clearly explain that I’m carrying a firearm on my body and that I have another in my center console immediately. Sometimes the officer is cool with it. I have had a couple that were extremely nervous that made me nervous. Also had a cop draw down on me when I told them I was armed.
  • I don’t always agree with your conclusions, but yeah, you are spot on with this one. Those are bad cops, through and through, and they bring a dark stain upon the badge.
  • “I’m being straight-up with you” says cop, in the middle of lying, while under the protection of being able to lie as a legal tactic.
  • I’m starting to see the pattern now. Approach vehicle….start throwing out multiple commands as fast as possible. This throws the subject off balance. The suspect starts to get more and more nervous. They get more apprehensive. This reinforces the cops justification to yank them out of the car because the suspect can’t rationally follow the string of commands being spat at them. This is by design. THIS is what needs to change. The police know how to illicit the responses they need to invade however they want. Tag team commands also over complicate. One issues a command, suspect starts to obey, second cop issues conflicting order right after. This gives the illusion of failing to comply. “License and registration”…suspect begins to reach….second cop “What are you reaching around for?” BANG! suspicion achievement unlocked. This is a routine that these two cops have rehearsed and executed for a LONG time.
  • I’ve always found it interesting how using a K9 to get probable cause to search a car is admissible even if the average in-field performance drops to 57% accuracy.
  • If he gets scared when people reach for the documents he asked for, he is a danger to people and unfit for the job.
    • It’s a game. He is reading a script to the microphone. He can say later he was worried, and his proof is his own recorded comments.
    • They all say that in almost every single interaction police have they say, “Im scared, for my saftey,” etc, its a part of the game they play.
  • Except it is video recorded. If I filmed an empty parking lot and said see that red car drive by? And there is no red car a judge or anyone would see my words do not match the action I am describing. If the officer is nervous about a man complying and doing nothing weird or wrong then he does not need to be a cop. That is like a firefighter afraid to go in the fire…uncalled for and until everyone presses charges/files complaints it will continue. We know there are good policemen but the that doesn’t mean we can ignore the bad ones.

 

  •  @Shelley Mackey Spence  I think we all know the cop was never once nervous during the whole encounter. There’s no need to explain the irony of a nervous cop. It’s clearly all word games for the camera to justify his dirty actions.

 

  • God I’m so disgusted by this. At what point do we fight back against these unlawful detentions? I want so badly to start seeing people defend themselves from being accosted like this. These cops deserve to lose their jobs, or allowed to continue them long enough for someone to humiliate, assault, terrify, and harass them.
  • When law enforcement says that you are not in trouble while continuing to find a reason to escalate it you know you’re in trouble, handled perfectly by this gentleman IMHO and the ticket was likely retaliatory when he could have just as easily have issued a couple of warnings and as for the court system it’s been corrupted beyond belief from the founders intentions by tyrannical leadership currently in full force in our nation.
  • I’m extremely happy that you went over the problems of using a dog to escalate the stop! As a dog Trainer myself I’ve been saying this for years
  • as a supporter of good LEOS, there just continues to be a failure of common sense of how much better these situations could go without them instantly escalating every single situation.
  • Drug dogs are just a way to bypass reasonable suspicion and perform illegal searches.
  • I was harassed by deputies at my home when someone called police on me for no reason. I believe they had body cams. When I talked to lawyers , they refused to take my case saying they don’t want to get in fight with local sheriff office even they acknowledged that they don’t wrong to me. My question is how I can start process for those cops to get justice and bring them in courts ?
  • The man was caught very off guard, as a motor vehicle driver every time you plan to go out, you must rehearse your lines, lol… / like yeah judge Jonathan Kurlnad told me to carry my docs in my visor, LMAO their faces priceless…
  •  @Tom Orr  Dude do you fucking live in the same world we do? As soon as those cops got out and approached from both sides at once I was terrified for this man. They behaved like predators from zero, escalating at every opportunity until they had him out of the car and on the sidewalk.
  • “Is there anything illegal in the car?” This is a trap because there’s no correct answer. Remaining silent causes the police to become concerned. If the man answered “Yes” that would obviously cause the police to be concerned also. And answering “No” would clearly be cause for concern that he may be lying.
  • I’ve been in this situation before. Multiple cops start asking you questions so fast you can’t answer and give you conflicting orders. The goal is to keep you off balance and make sure that no matter what you do, you’re refusing to answer questions or comply with their orders so they can escalate the situation.
If “acting funny” is probable cause, then every cop in America should be under suspicion of committing a crime
  • The very escalation into a search for two minor traffic infractions is one of the many reasons he was nervous and distrustful. It amazes me how a person, who is already fearful and suspicious of cops’ motives, is told to relax, don’t be afraid. B.S.! This whole interaction emphasizes why we don’t trust you.
  • We’re just gonna ignore he fact that the one officer said he was gonna arrest him for merely having “sovereign citizen” literature in his car? This officer is a dangerous tyrant.
  • The cops had to show him who has the most power. They always got to show their strength.
  • It’s absolutely amazing that cops routinely say things that amount to “you have rights, but if you use them then we will do X.” If you can’t freely use your rights they are not rights…Sadly this conservative Supreme Court has mangled the case law so much that a cop really has to say and do something dumb to not have legal grounds to do almost anything. Fortunately, there are some very stupid cops who can’t even stay within the bounds of a standard that already grants them such wide latitude.
  1. It’s absolutely insane to me how the Police are the ones acting scared, lying to incriminate a innocent man, and immediately come to the car and claim HE is the one acting strange.
  • Being “nervous” is completely up to their discretion. I can’t understand how they think that’s legal. They live talking about their safety, but will pull you over on a 70mph roadway with speeding traffic, 2 in away for a minor headlight or equip violation.
  • Can a citizen who is stopped use the, “I feared for my life,” and the, “I had to make a split-second decision,” defenses?
  • police always say “There is no reason for you to be acting like this” when they are the ones acting all insane “ROLL THE WINDOW UP ROLL IT DOWN”
  • These cops were extremely aggressive right from the start, it was mostly a fishing expedition and a very terrifying one at that.

 

  • “I just want to record this” “That’s fine” immediately takes the phone out of his hand to prevent him from recording. Cops are scum.
  • 1:30: How can a cop approach someone like this cop did and then dare to act like it’s weird that he seems nervous? You have him cornered and surrounded, and in the first minute of the encounter you’ve already given him 6 different orders, some of them conflicting with each other. Several of the orders were barked at him repeatedly before he could even process what you’d said. The way you’re speaking would make anyone nervous even if you weren’t carrying a gun and wearing an “I can get away with anything” costume.
  • Not answering questions gets these freak cops nervous and ready to claim “uncooperative” what a bunch of BS
  • When the first cop said “I’m going to read him”, that means he intended to read Mr Spalding his Miranda Rights and potentially place him under arrest – with no justification or reasonable suspicion whatsoever. We need to eliminate qualified immunity yesterday.
  • This same thing happened to me. I actually refused to reach for anything cause I could see one officer was nervous and twitchy with his hands on his gun. I was pulled over for expired temp tags. Ended up getting the car towed cause I wouldn’t consent to a search of the car.
  • He should said “I want my ticket for speeding and illegal lane change”, and said nothing else. As soon as he gets the tickets the stop is over by law. Anything else after that not be held against him as he was detained after the main reason for the stop.
  • I saw this a while ago on another channel and it made my blood boil. The only person acting funny is the drivers side cop with how jumpy he is and blurting out all kinds of orders and questions. I couldn’t believe how much the drivers side officer was intentionally trying to escalate the situation.
  • I know it was going bad from jump when the cops wanted him to roll down ALL his windows. The guy also needs to bone up on his rights. He has a basic idea; but needs to be educate himself more.
  • “You switched lanes in the intersection & were going 51 in a 35, but I don’t want to give you tickets.” Translates to “I’m copsplaining for the camera because I’m about to violate your constitutional rights and or slap you with some false charges after conducting an illegal search.”
  • “I would just finish the ticket, and call it a day.” In other words he’s saying, “Damn, sucks we couldn’t find anything to stick him with, so let’s just let this one go! 🙄
  • 6:50 Just because you don’t exercise your constitutional right not to self incriminate doesn’t mean others can’t. Police officers are so sensitive that anytime someone does not answer questions, they take that as resisting/combative.

 

  • love how cops will pull loop holes with dogs when denied consent. “can I search your car?” no “fuck you I’m gonna get a dog that’s trained to receive treats when it sits next to cars or on command with documented 80% failure rates so I can do it anyway.”

 

  • When the cop says “if someone pulled me over id say no theres nothing illegal” what this cop doesnt understand is he would never be stopped under the same pretenses as he stopped this man for. You can tell this guy being “weird”is him not wanting to give up his rights cause he went from 0 to losing in a matter of seconds with these cops. And they treat citizens like this multiple times on a daily basis across the nation. time4change
  • It blows my mind dogs alert is legal. It is so damn easy to have the dog alert and they keep no stats on how often drugs weren’t found. It is just a super easy loophole for cops to violate your rights.
  • The officer ADMITTED he was looking for guns and drugs and that was the reason for the stop. I’ll bet when his (edit: CIVIL) attorney gets going on this, the city’s own street cameras will show he never did anything wrong to be stopped in the first place.
  • They’d pull the “why are you nervous?!” Shit on me when I was a 16 year old kid and I thought the worst thing was they could give me a ticket. I’d literally be scared of getting a ticket and they’re flipping the fuck out like this. Then I had a Halloween mask in my trunk from Halloween so I’m “robbing houses” like where do they make these leaps. Oh I also forgot I had a fishing tackle box (full of roadside safety things like flares and all the shit they tell you that you need in drivers Ed) and that makes me a drug dealer. Cuz apparently drug dealers keep tackleboxes in their cars? I mean what kind of mental gymnastics do they need to do to make leaps like that? “There’s no reason for you to act like this” well normal people don’t do well with just being yanked out of their car and manhandled. And I don’t wanna say racist but I feel like that would’ve been less likely if he was white. I pass for white but when I was younger you could tell I was Hispanic. And I’d be in the passenger seat with my white friend (who was a total idiot and troublemaker btw) and I’d be polite saying yes sir no sir to them. And he’d be talking to them like they’re the biggest idiots wasting his time. And they’d fuck with ME! Meanwhile he’s the driver and they’re being so nice to him. My other friend she had the exact same experience too. So I also learned just talk to them like they’re idiots. The one time I did that they let me go with a warning. All the other times they’d see how much they could fuck with me.
  • My goodness these cops escalate quickly. Far too quickly for a reasonable person to follow instructions. They to go “you are making me nervous” way too quickly.
  • I think that if a cop conducts a search because he “smelled” contraband, saw shake, a dog alerted or stuff like that and nothing is found there should be consequences, and they should be open up to Constitutional violations. Because if they claim to detect these things and none us found that kinda suggests a lie or manipulation of the situation to get a search, doesn’t it?
  • Officer also stated that as long as he is made waiting for the dog he’s going to be writing tickets. Since it could take awhile for a dog to arrive it is fair that this is a threat of false tickets being written during this scare tactic!!!
  • The fact that you appear to have an unending supply of these types of police encounters makes me think your police in America are corrupt and unworthy of the role of police officer.
  • And of course officers faced no consequences for doing this and went on to continue to do it in the future without being challenged. This is the kind of degrading treatment people face constantly especially minorities by racist cops who interpret anything a minority might do as suspicious.
  • A neighbor of mine is a state trooper. He has his DRE certification – Drug Recognition Expert. Every driver that pisses him off gets his light in their eyes. Then they get arrested for being under the influence of opioids because when you’re under the influence of opioids your pupils constrict. Even though he KNOWS the light constricts their pupils he arrests them anyway and swears in court that their pupils were constricted and that’s a sign of opioid use. Never piss off a cop. They have 1000 ways to violate your rights and they will do it in a second!
  • Based on that guys reaction to all this, I suspect this is not the first time it’s happened.
  • A total fishing expedition. And their actions show just that! Hopefully one day law enforcement will be he’d to the same standards that the citizens are held to.
  • Soon as the officer talked about roll the windows all the way down I already knew what type of situation this was about to be. You don’t legally have to do that. There’s no laws that require you to roll all the windows down without reasonable suspicion
  • Don’t forget about that inhuman tactic of making people sit on the ground.
  • What continues to baffle me is how police can do this sort of thing, then pretend to be surprised that people don’t trust them and believe police are going to harm them or trump up false charges no matter what they say or do. If police really are that unaware of the direct consequences of their own actions, then it’s an active public danger to give them weapons and permission to use them.
  • Sadly, both of these officers were doing precisely what they’ve been trained to do in accordance with departmental policy. So much for “justice” in America.
  • In California, you can switch lanes in the middle of an intersection. I found that out when I went to traffic school several decades ago.
  • This is reminds me of the Orlando in the 80s when the cops were out of control and the cops were planting evidence on people and in their property also once they got you charged with something within months they were arrested again and again when most people get pulled over they get nervous and or upset either with the cops or themselves

“Fruits of the Poisonous Tree”

As a retired Police Officer, I can tell you that the speeding citation will be tossed. I don’t care about his “well calibrated” Police cruiser, because you’re still required to pace the speeding vehicle at least one mile without losing or gaining distance. I heard a Judge once ask a state Trooper who tried to pull this stunt,;
“you’re telling the court…. with your calibrated eyeballs you clocked him at this rate of speed?!”

From the aggressive bullying by these officers, I’m fairly sure that the pacing did not happen. Improper Lane change in the intersection? Their PC for stopping this man is suspect at best.

This foolishness of pulling people over just because you can is dangerous! This traffic stop is pregnant for a disaster. He could have shot them or vice-versa.

 

  • Mandatory body cams have proven to be a huge leap in justice. It tends to work against law enforcement
  • I have been saying since forever that it is the GRAY area of the law that allows officers to continue to be corrupt and downright dishonest and abusing rights over and over,he SHOULD be allowed to sue the individual officers and not the system as these officers should be held accountable for their actions and not hide behind their badge.
  • I hope he sues…. They can’t extend the stop to wait for a dog.
  • What happened to traffic stops, that actually have to deal with traffic. You get pulled over, cop tells you why he stopped you, ask you for your information, run a check, give you back you property, and send you on your way. No one gets threatened, injured, or worse, killed, because of over zealous cops. This is so much more than just a traffic stop.
  • I like how saying “I’m not answering questions” is seen as suspicious so they call the K-9 unit even tho the right to remain silent can’t be seen as incriminating
  • “ We want to make sure we go home safely. That’s the key to this whole thing”. Obviously doesn’t matter if the school children don’t go home safely, you bunch of cowards.

 

  • okay so when he says he’s looking for narcotics and fire arms my interpretation was he’s not worried about ticketing minor offenses. obviously you’d judge someone you pull over and if you suspect more you go from there. therefore that’s not pretext
Oh sad to see this so close to home. I live no more than 15 minutes from where this happened
🌼These new cameras that people have in their cars on the rear view mirror will catch a lot of predatory cops. Taking the cell phones away won’t prevent people from recording once these become common.

Wow, they are intentionally escalating everything they possibly can. They are playing, I’m the Good Guy, and I’m Your Friend. Neither is true. This is a guy with power, and he knows how to use it, so he’s going to twist everything he can, to get what he wants. You have no rights while this guy is near you, and I would imagine police hq would agree with that, and with everything he does.

The driver has every reason to be scared of these guys, and yes, they have guns, and it’s takes a second to have that gun out, and killing you. So, the fact that it isn’t in their hand means nothing at all. Just the fact that cops are still acting like this, after everything that has happened in the last few years, is really a problem.

They are actually using the fact, that anyone would be nervous of cops as reason to invade your privacy, and do what they want, in the guise of your being suspicious, because your nervous. Like anyone can really stay completely calm around cops acting like they are. It’s a really shady way to do justice.

The ones actually acting suspicious, are the cops. They are screaming, Don’t Trust Us!!!

This was a fishing expedition, like most police stops like this. They do their best to Escalate anything they can, to give you a ticket, or take you to jail. Either way, they want you feeding money into the system, to fight the system. They want to get you in front of a judge. Nothing else matters, because police do no wrongs, and they never lie.

 

  • Seems you need to learn how to hand your licence and registration to a cop without actually physically handing your licence and registration to them, in case it scares them……
  • So tough these cops are. Now imagine if they can be that tough in an active shooter scenario.
  • If a police dog is brought in and alerts on your vehicle, leading to a search: should the car owner request/demand to told the dogs name, tag number etc to aid in later understanding if that specific dog was trained and certified?
  • A LARGE percentage of officers these days break the very laws they enforce. It’s sickening and “things” have to change !!!

Sadly, talking to lawyers this is EXTREMELY common. Where cops will try to delay something as much as possible to get a drug dog out there to harass someone.
What they told me is if something like that happens. Tell the officer “am I free to go”, and “I do not consent to stay here longer than a reasonable time for you to do your investigation.” Another is if they say you’re not free to go, say “please tell me when I’m free to go so I can leave. Thank you” Basically, it shows you didn’t voluntary stay there longer than needed for a normal traffic stop. It is likely, if he brought it to court with this body cam and a good lawyer. He wouldn’t have to pay a dime, and he could’ve sued for the extended time being stuck there.

From what they told me, if they pull a I smell x. You say, “can you prove in court that you smell x?” They might get PO, but basically it signals that won’t fly in court. They will most likely try to pull a drug dog, and mention “your lawyer will pull up the record of the drug dog training, and all officers involved.” Like they and others will pull BS that saying that forces them to do it. But in reality, by the time they are pulling a stunt with a drug dog or threatening it. They are going to do it no matter what you say, and fear of it not being held up in court is the only way to get them to back down.

#1: I’ll help you- the young Black man (that’s what this is all about) gets an A+++ as he did what a Judge (a relative of mine) told us to do: keep your hands on the wheel or up in plain sight, no movements unless asked to do so, simply ask why you’re being stopped, try to remain calm, let the cops know you’re going to exercise your rights, & that you don’t consent to any searches or seizures. Despite clearly doing this, he is assaulted, handcuffed, harassed, & subject to numerous rights violations during this course of racial profiling.
#2: This is the modus operandi for these cops (seen it & been thru it enough myself) and they clearly stated what their real intentions where while they used the plethora of tricks afforded them by the Courts.
#3: I thought this was going to be another young Black man murdered by cops during a traffic stop for nothing. IF you couldn’t tell, the young man was literally frightened for his life. He was confused by what they really wanted from him/their actions. Their approach, tone, & attitude let him know that “road piracy” wasn’t what this was all about. He did NOT know if he would survive this encounter.
#4: He probably can’t afford a $750/hour attorney (if he could find one) & how many of us can? He paid the ticket as he wanted to be through with this system as much as anything else. Besides, the Courts ain’t gonna listen to him even if these 2 regularly planted drugs on innocent citizens. Period.
#5: He is permanently scarred by this treatment from “those sworn to serve and protect” & will do his best to avoid them forever.

Oh, but the system loses as well. He will return to his community & add his fear and humiliation to that of his community which will continue to not trust law enforcement (exactly why should they?).

So, forget about expecting virtually any cooperation when law enforcement needs help from them.

  • Why anyone would believe that this type of “law enforcement” is either fair, okay, or sustainable is beyond me. People are beyond tired of this crap…..

 

  • I find it disappointing that when a person doesn’t jump through their hoops in assisting the officers in finding evidence to arrest them on, and politely says they won’t answer questions: the officers assume he’s some “extremist sovern citizen”.

 

  • I’ve encountered cops talking to me like that, too, except for the narcotics stuff.

 

  • ”You are not in trouble” but by jove, we are gonna make damn sure you are, if we can get our hands on you. It’s no wonder people get nervous when they get approaches by police, all over the world in these times.
  • “The blame cannot be solely placed on these officers. As the current legal framework surrounding traffic stops allows for, and often legitimizes conduct such as this.” Well stated. And watching these cops come up and immediately start with the “you’re acting strange” nonsense, makes one sick to their stomach.
  • Very common in Florida. These cops drive around looking for “narcotics and firearms” and they have no problem fabricating traffic infractions to initiate a stop. Happened to me many, many times. These particular cops were particularly polite, I’ve had them yelling and spitting in my face, threatening to plant drugs, and taking down my personal info telling me I’d better watch out, etc. The Supreme Court erred when they ruled that a dog’s nose on the exterior of a vehicle granted probable cause to search the interior of a vehicle. Hopefully one day it will be overturned, especially considering the dogs are about as reliable as a coin flip.
  • Of course, the dog had a positive reaction! Dogs always have a positive reaction, that’s how police get around the 4th amendment protections. I am frankly surprised that the cops didn’t plant any drugs so that the dog hit would make sense!

 

  • Unfortunately in my experience in 33 years of driving this is a normal traffic stop in the United States of America and I have driven in 26 of those States
  • Every single time you tell a cop you’re recording their answer is always “okay we’re recording too.” Somehow their footage always goes missing…
  • It still staggers me that officers are surprised that people are nervous around them and don’t trust them. Can it really be a shock when they treat people like this? Don’t they realise that this behaviour makes their job harder in the first place??
I am a man who believes in the law and the reasonability of everybody following the same rules as everyone else. Officers like these ones, who removed a man from his car, searched him, and put him under a threat of arrest because “hes shakey” makes me very sick.
these officers are nuts. i defend officer conduct on a daily basis, and do my best to be fair and honest in each occurance. When i see officers like this, it rips all the good that can come from law enforcement, and i hate the way officers like these treat that lawbook like their own personal strong arm.
  • They openly admitted that they were looking for any excuse to pull him over so they can look for drugs. he came right and said that they arent interested in enforcing traffic laws they just wanna find drugs and guns
  • Wish he didn’t open his car door. I don’t know why they just panicked when he did that. It just all of a sudden caused this whole thing.
Based on how the video plays out, they didnt even use the ticket to extend the stop in any way that would be reasonable.
They didnt even start the process of writing the ticket until AFTER the search was over and the ticket was handed out as punishment for using his 5th ammendment rights.
That’s why it is very important to have a body,dash camera,& gps to record evidence against police making false claims
These “officers” were behaving exactly how they were trained to behave and doing exactly what the department expects them to do. We are living in a police state and “we the People” need to end it. Hold these agencies to account and dismiss the abusive leadership and rank and file. We pay these people to do a difficult job and we should expect them to do it well or don’t do it at all.
  • Officer basically said “ You see how using your rights make us nervous?” 😂
  • my favorite part in this was when mr spalding {sorry if I misspelled it} says im gonna start recording and the cops were like nope in handcuffs u go smh record the police if they start acting shady this is how we make them responsible.
  • A good friend of mine has been training police dogs for 40 years. He said it’s a well known open secret that the dogs are trained to give false alerts with subtle commands.
    • One cop faces away and the other blocks his camera with the door at the point the dog signals. Presumably the dog handler doesn’t have a camera. Whole thing looks like a setup.
    • Anyone who has ever owned a dog knows this. Sure, they can find the baggie in the practice yard. But they get treats and make their masters happy, when they alert. It’s not hard to figure out this is just a game they use to get around the search and seizure laws.
  • DO NOT give law enforcement officers permission to go into your vehicle – to search or to retrieve your driver’s license, registration, or proof of insurance. They can plant things in your vehicle.
  • 7:48 There is no such thing as a “well-trained narcotics-detection dog”. Its as accurate as a coin flip
  • 3:10 – I won’t give you a speeding ticket if we can find some firearms or narcotics. This cop would really suck at Let’s Make A Deal. He’s also an oath breaking punk.
  • There should never be a situation where an American citizen is stopped for a minor traffic violation and the police escalate the stop into multiple made up charges. Our legislators need to stop this highway piracy. American citizens shouldn’t lose all the rights when they drive and have to live in fear.
  • “I’m thinking sovereign citizen.” that tells you exactly what this police department thing of the bill of rights
“The dog alerted because he paused.” Pausing to smell isn’t an alert, but most judges and lawyers don’t know shit about dog training.
  • First off, having to roll all the windows down so the cops can see if there’s anyone else in there and the first question they ask is “do you have any guns in the car?” says a lot about how fucked up the country is. Then the cops says the most important thing is that everyone goes home safely – FROM A STOP FOR CHANGING LANES IN AN INTERSECTION. In no other civilisied country would that even get a mention nor would the driver be handcuffed before being placed under arrest for something they’d done.
  • $197 because they have to write a ticket in order to wait for a drug dog, according to SCOTUS precedent. The officers’ behavior was disgusting, but it’s a combination of policing culture and case law that screwed this guy over. Asking him why he’s so nervous is especially disgusting to me. “Why are you shaking? It’s incredibly suspicious.” “Uhhhhh because I’m thinking that I might die from this.”

 

  • All citizens need to learn how to return the assertions of cops back on them. “You’re acting pretty funny too officer. What are you reaching for officer? I don’t know, are you behaving like a normal person during this encounter or do you not concern yourself with your own behaviors?”

 

  • Notice the cop when he asked him to step out of the car he grabbed his arm, then grabbed his phone to stop him from recording at the 1:451:46 mark. I have a few questions: do they make inside car cameras that record the inside of the car from multiple angles that will capture a cop if they try to plant evidence in your car? Also how can you tell if a cop body camera is on?
  • They had basic understanding of Constitution; instead of abiding the law, they manipulated the situation to violate citizen. So typical.
  • Laws that hold authority accountable are only valid if the citizens have the means to hold authority accountable.
  • That is sad. He seems like a legit nice guy and those cops were “pretending” to be cool but were far from it. I hope he does Sue them if nothing else to bring this to light. Thanks for another well done video🤘🏻❤️
  • How do these cops go back to their family and kids at night knowing that they themselves have committed a crime the same day ( and likely everyday) Horrible ☠️
  • As a police officer of eight years, I always appreciate your videos
  • Key to this video, cops believe the 5th Amendment is an admission of guilt or wrongdoing.
  • Police lie so often that is becomes habitual and feels perfectly natural to them.I cringe whenever I hear Police saying “Stop Resisting” when the video clearly shows that there is no resisting going on.
  • Why would you say his view was tainted? These officers are the product of their system. His view is perfectly aligned now with what the system wants to enforce: never talk to cops, never help, never ask for help, never engage with them outside the presence of your attorney.
  • Are records kept by any given police department that keep track of how many times a K-9 unit alerts, but nothing is found? THAT would be most interesting to research.
  • Cop “Your acting all nervous, reaching around, rolling up your windows..” Later same cop “You’re making me nervous.”
  • I found it rich when at the 2:01 mark the cop says “You’re not in trouble right now, you’re acting funny man. There’s no reason for you to act like this”. I respectfully disagree. If I were a young black man and two armed government sponsored gang members stopped me and immediately ordered me out of the car to prevent me from recording I would be nervous also. I thought that the young man was better than I would have been. He was told to roll down all of his windows and he complied immediately. I would have not complied and keep my doors locked. But, I am white and old. So, they wouldn’t have done the same thing to me I don’t think. In any event, this was racist as sure as I am sitting here. I guarantee if that was a young, pretty white girl with a big smile this wouldn’t have happened like this. Not in a million years. FTP now and forever. They truly earn every bit of the disdain, contempt, and hate that they get from the public.
  • We all know who these officers are serving in these situations, but who exactly do they think they’re “protecting”?
  • The sad part is that this abuse of power is so common, that Black ppl rarely see treatment like this as anything but racism. The laws that protect poor performance from cops is a problem. Mr. Spaulding did an excellent job of legally advocating for himself. Stops like these create resentment towards police.
  • Traffic stops are not used in the interest of safety, they are always a pretext for racist harassment. If the government was interested in the safety of its citizens it would have the roads designed to be safe, not selectively punish people for minor traffic violations.
  • This video just infuriates me….this is THE definition of a pre textual stop…..this driver was absolutely mistreated and the only reason the cop didn’t catch an a$$ whoopin is because he IS a cop…..disgusting law enforcement overreach
  • We are only a little way in and we already know what kind of person this cop is. If you say something about them having guns and the cop replies “do you see a gun in my hand?” You know you are in trouble.
  • Got pulled over by Everett Washington cops for doing 35.2mph in a 35mph zone. They had me in cuffs sitting on the street corner and they searched my truck and found nothing. Took it to court and got the $150 speeding ticket dismissed but I still had to pay $50 for the court fee to fight the ticket. Same cop pulled me over again for my window tint. It’s the factory tint. Gave me a $100 some odd dollar ticket for window tint and took it to court again and won but again, I had to pay another $50 for court fee to fight the ticket.

 

  • Well, this is why the guy was nervous. He had a feeling that the cops were not stopping him because of a traffic violation, they were just seeing a dude and were hoping for finding something in his car. Because of these cases, pretty much everyone becomes nervous when a cop talks to them.
    • And the likelyhood that the cops were going to create some bs and charge him with something no matter what.
    • Or, worse, planting something in the vehicle in a manner that the bodycam cannot view.
  • I’m surprised that I’m not seeing comments about the fact that one of the cops wanted to arrest him for being a “sovereign citizen” despite the fact that he didn’t use any of their talking points! He simply gave minimal comments and invoked his right to remain silent.

 

  • Cops make people nervous regardless if they have done anything or not. That should not be a reason to elevate a routine traffic stop to searching the car. I don’t blame the guy for it answering questions because they try to entrap you with those questions. Why is there more pressure on the person to be perfect at a traffic stop when the officer has the training and should know the law?
  • It saddens me to hear that towns like Uvalde are spending 40% of their budget on policing and the police end up not doing anything to prevent crimes.

 

  • You’re exactly right! This is a good example of why cops are hated. Also, I absolutely HATE that a dog can give cause to have a car searched.
  • The speeding ticket requires that the officer produce the Certifications necessary to get the speed measuring device used as admissible evidence. However, the lane change observation only requires the officer to testify under oath that what he believes he saw was a unauthorized or unnecessary move by the gentleman. In that case there is no requirement that the officer film this encounter to determine whether what he claims he saw was in fact what happened. This thin, non existent thread of evidence gives those in authority a license to ‘steal’. So, back to my first point, just who profits from the $197.00 paid by the gentleman? How is that bounty divided up?Did the dog get anything, maybe a tasty meaty bone to chew on? It seems only fair since the police were allowed to sink their teeth, so to speak, into the gentleman’s wallet. And just what average joe, or in this case a young black man, would be able to spend/afford the money to hire an attorney? Last thought, the speeding ticket would have come with points, did the lane change charge carry any points? If the answer is no, see how nice the two officers were, they did not want to see his insurance rates possibly go up, and in that case the gentleman might have felt it necessary to contest the claim in court!

 

  • Cop straight up turned the exercise of a right into probable cause. Give him a promotion.
  • Cops: immediately act aggressive, as if he’s a criminal with a gun Also cops: “why are you acting funny?” Disgusting
  • I have advice for everyone. Keep your insurance and registration paperwork in an envelope clipped to the sun visor. This way you don’t need to “go reaching around”. And always have a paper copy, as opposed to an app on your phone. If it’s on your phone you’ll be forced to “reach around” in your pocket to get it, and you’ll have to go digging around in phone to find the app which could show the officer shaking fingers or “cognitive impairment” if you can’t find it quickly. And if it’s on your phone you may need to give the officer your unlocked phone, and if you refuse to hand it over, you are now deemed “uncooperative”. Don‘t give the them an opportunity to develop Probable Cause. Lastly, if you have a dashcam or cameras mounted in the interior DO NOT tell them. Even if they find something minor, if there are any shenanigans committed by the police captured on film the court may not allow your dimebag as evidence.
  • Almost the same thing happened to me in 2018 in Lagrange, Ga. It was ridiculous, and I’ll will always have distrust in police from then on.
  • Best visual demonstration of “driving while Black”. Sad. Disappointing. SCARY. Every abusers’ best excuse, “look what you made me do”.

 

  • Best practices When being pulled over.. Especially when Black 1) Go ahead and roll all windows down ahead of time (So officer can see inside clearly) 2) Have your ID out already. You never want to put your live in some cops hands by reaching around 3) put your hands on the wheel or on the door window so they clearly see your hands Those 3 things will drastically up your chances of avoiding bullshit
  • So it wasn’t just me that noticed the driver wasn’t acting erratically. I can’t speak for everyone else but the way the officers came up to the car and were acting would’ve made me nervous as well. Then when the start assuming you’re a criminal when you know your not I wouldn’t stop talking to them as well. Those two officers are part of the problem and not the solution.
  • i like how cops use peoples fear/anxiety about cops as reasonable suspicion
  • “You’re not in any trouble” while proceeds to pat him down and handcuff him. The excuse that every officer gives that its for their safety as well as yours is bs. You can tell from the moment the officers walked to the car he was nervous af and refuse to answer questions because of what could happen. Safer to be taken to prison than interacting in public. I’d give the guy a ‘B’ to an ‘A-‘, he seemed knowledgeable enough to comply, no consenting to searches, and to remain silent.
  • Sometimes I get turned off by first amendment auditors and their sometimes confrontative nature but after watching something like this, I don’t mind them being confrontative at all.
  • Oh wow. You would have thought this guy just robbed a bank and killed someone. This guy are fishing in the wrong type of water. Why do they think people would be nervous based on their history with certain people during traffic stops.
  • Its amazing that US police are micro managed by the supreme court.
  • THey pulled him over for traffic infractions, when he looks for his information they rip him out of the car and handcuff him. They are supposed to be writing him a ticket for the infractions, and letting him go. But they escalate the situation so they can hold him and delay writing him a ticket, so they can call a K9 to smell for another LARGER charge.
  • These punk cops act like this person did something to harm them I just don’t get it. Why any agency would continue to let cops like this to be employed on the force is beyond comprehension the attitude of these so-called protect and serve people is again beyond comprehension they should be fired immediately

 

  • I’ve had this happen to me, just cruising along I40 minding my own business, then two unmarked vehicles come flying up from nowhere and pulled me over because “they didn’t see me wearing my seat belt”. They asked for license, registration, insurance, the whole spiel, and then asked if I minded if they took a look in my car. I’m not an auditor, I just wanted out of there as soon as possible, and damn sure didn’t want dogs jumping all over my car scratching it up, so I let them look. They gave me a quick pat down, took my little pocket knife for their safety of course, and I stood there with one officer while the two others went through my car front to back. When they didn’t find anything they handed me my knife back, and let me leave without a ticket or so much as a warning, totally weird experience.

 

  • Profiling, unreasonable provocation, inventing reasons to escalate, escalating and entrapment. Criminals in a Halloween uniform with weapons, given way too much power. It’s only a matter of time before they needlessly take someone’s life.

 

  • I saw the whole video and the cops were so pissy about the guy not answering questions that they kept him cuffed, implying that they’d remove them if he answered. The guy remained silent. I get why he didn’t pursue it, not wanting the hassle, but watching the whole thing was infuriating!
  • The cops’ attitude is straight from the 1950s. Rapid fire, contradictory, hyper defensive commands. Unbelievable
  • So a question. If a dog handler and a dog have an abysmal record of accuracy on alerting on a traffic stop at what point is the dog and handler put out of commission? Is there any action you can take if a dog alerts falsely in a court of law for a violation of your 4th amendments?
  • 10:43 – The officer is holding his walkie next to the mic on his body cam so it’s hard to hear what he’s saying.
  • Pretext stops are perfectly legal. However, threatening to write tickets unless consent to search is given, that is HIGHLY illegal.
  • What’s sad is those cops left that scene thinking they did everything right. What’s even sadder is their department will likely watch the video and tell them they did everything right
  • are we just not gonna talk about the sign on that CHURCH’S door? “According to our Church policy and the Bible, it is forbidden for women and young girls to wear pants inside the sanctuary.” …EXCUSE ME?! WHAT? someone PLEASE explain this
  • “You’re not in trouble right now” means you’re in deep god damn shit.
  • Pretty damn sad. Soldiers gave their lives for this citizen their sacrifice was made in vain by those officers
  • They’re doing their job. Intimidating and keeping people in their place.
  • They will keep doing it until they’re held accountable. Shit makes me feel hopeless. Can’t believe this is where we are.
  • this wasn’t the first time they did this. i heard that getting more drug bust increases the chances of a promotion. in the future, i bet they will start “finding” more illegal substances.
  • You’re reaching around, making me nervous.” Yeah, after the LEO asked for his license and registration. Quite the lesson in cop induced escalation. Meanwhile, the driver was completely chill.
  • The cop is reading a script. He wants those words to get recorded, even if the video doesn’t match.
  • and the fact they wrote him a ticket after making him sit through ALL THAT because they were still butthurt he didn’t answer their questions smh
  • I mean, once he literally admits that it’s all a pretext, it’s over for him lol. Always remember, There is no law or infraction so minor that police will not kill you or your child over and then claim officer safety. Kind of like the 19 in Texas who allowed children to be shot at and killed for an hour, while they sat outside for “officer safety”. They even admitted in a press conference that they didn’t go in because they might be shot.
  • I’m always nervous when pulled over by police. The social gap between the areas where they are assigned to is usually big! A good police will inform you of what the pull over is for. Quit taking advantage of people who know or don’t know the law. Help us and stop reaching departments quota
  • Back in the 80’s I was pulled over daily because my girlfriend was white. They would make her get out of the car and they would tell her to go home and keep me there until she was out of sight. I wasn’t speeding or breaking any traffic laws.
  • ‘You have guns and im scared’ ‘Are they in my hands?’ Cool; then by that theory.. you shouldn’t have to cuff the driver because his guns aren’t in his hands..
  • When pulled over #1 lock your doors, #2 put your window not more than half way down — far enough to pass paperwork and communicate, #3 have your paperwork ready before the officer gets to the window, #4 do not hand them your paperwork until they articulate a legitimate reason for the stop, #5 do not open your door or put other windows down all the way. If they ask you to exit the vehicle they must be able to articulate a suspected crime “your acting funny” is not a crime anymore than “you seem nervous”.
  • These cops are very good at double talk and baited words very well rehearsed that’s why they have to cops so that the cooperate the stories along with the bated words and double talk. These guys are dangerous. These are the type of cops you got to know everything about them.
  • I fight every ticket. I won 4 in a row. Half the times the cops didn’t show up. These cops are unlikely to show up in court for a traffic ticket, because they are probably on some narcotics detail. He needed to get the video. Plead innocent. Never plead no contest.
  • The footage is from the bodycam footage of the cops, which was continuously edited, as the breaks are clearly noticeableThe footage did not show the driver’s actual violation, as would have been captured on the cop’s car dashcam… There is not any footage showing anything to the claimed traffic violation… Clearly there is a lawsuit in play, being that we are seeing this on Audit the Audit… The cops violated an array of the driver’s rights, creating false narratives and outright lying… The crooked and racist courts of that jurisdiction will drag the lawsuit… This is police gang behavior, at the expense of taxpayers.
  • I think about all the times my rights were violated when I was younger by local police and didn’t know any better.
  • Prosecutor: if you don’t take the plea, I will pursue maximum sentence. Judge: has anyone threatened you or coerced you into take this plea? Me: yes Judge, the man acting as prosecutor threatened me.
  • My god the gaslighting is insane. They fumble their speech and tell him to do a multitude of things and then accuse him of reach around? Like dude you just told him to get his papers. I hope this guy got paid.
  • im going to be honest if i was stopped by a cop who said he feels nervous with his hand on his gun id be shaking too XD

 

  • Dude was handcuffed sitting on curb and the cop with back up and guns was “nervous”. Duche bag cop you make the world less safe

 

  • He never addressed the fact that the cop open the passenger door before he had any kind of excuse or permission to do so.
  • I noticed that too. Who do they think they are?
  • And people are of the belief that this type of policing works, 1 out of every 30 stops might yield some minor crap, so 29 people were just harassed after you got one with some shakes on the mat. Needs more, this is damaging the relationship the police should have with their employer

 

  • Only thing I hate more than tyrants, are tyrants in training. I recommend, as do all police that I’ve ever met, doing some ride-alongs. They are free, they do a brief background check, and you get to ride shotgun. You can literally witness this garbage first hand on every average day. Just goto the station and ask if you can ride along. You could say you’re interested in the industry, etc. This was a high on himself Narcotics tyrant feeding his new little baby tyrants the routine. They literally have task forces operating and training like this daily, in damn near every city in America, EVERY DAY. When are we going to say enough is enough and let these operators be held accountable by the law they swear an oath to uphold? If you’re a rights respecting American then your argument will always hold up in court. They are allowed to, after the stop, use the legal system to unconstitutionally detain you and your life, until you misstep or they dismiss. Dismissals should reflect negatively on officers and all other agents that detained us in a probationary status of the court system. We have a right to a speedy trial and these offenses should be PENALIZED and prosecutable.
  • I have severe ptsd from dirty cops. They beat me badly causing severe brain damage while I was having a gran mal seizure and not under arrest. They paid off “my” lawfirm to never get video footage. At least I don’t have panic attacks when I see them like I did for years.

 

  • The moment that lawsuit money starts coming out of the police’s salary packets, is the moment that this kind of behaviour is stamped out almost overnight. If a dog gives a false alert 3 times in the space of 12 months, the dog is retired and the handler fired. Bang, no more fake alerts.

 

  • I’m calling BS on the officer’s comments about searching the vehicle or him just telling him where the drugs are. As I have stated previously, I have seen nearly a hundred videos in which dogs dutifully “hit” and zero drugs were found. Maybe, the videos recommended for me are skewed somehow, but I think it more likely that the dogs are utilized improperly and/or are not well trained.
  • seems like the supreme courts are leaning more and more toward law enforcement than the victim regardless of the situation
I defend good police officers because not everyone who is a law enforcement officer is a bad guy, but I hate when I see discrimination. They were essentially trying to use the traffic violations as a bargaining tool. They stated that they were not worried about worried about traffic violations but guns and drugs. I also hate the way police officers use manipulation of the law to their advantage and treat this individual like a criminal when he did not do anything to deserve the behavior that was displayed by there officers. This type of behavior is why some people have a negative view of law enforcement. I know it is time for a change in the ways that officers are allowed to behave in these circumstances. Someone very close to me has a security system with lights and cameras at their home. When I asked him why they need so much security for their house he told me that he didn’t want law enforcement officers to knock his door down and try to steal from him. Can you believe a statement like that? He worries more about police than strangers breaking in. He had his home torn a part in a raid by police for buying a quarter ounce of Marijuana from a known drug dealer. They followed him home, knocked down the door and took everything of value from him including a shoe box with 25 thousand dollars that he had been saving for 10 years to put a down payment on a home. He was never arrested for anything and had money , 2 vehicles confiscated, and his home destroyed for nothing. His court appointed lawyer(they took all his money) said to not fight this & try to get stuff back because the police would put his name on the indictment. He got bad credit from the vehicle sezuire because they were financed. So can you blame him for his attitude?

I get a laugh out of the cops that say, “you’re shaking. Why are you nervous?” Idk, maybe because ARMED men are escalating what should be a routine traffic stop for no other reason to try and pin an actual crime on me.

Seriously, cops like this drive me insane. For the record, I’m a law-abiding citizen and even I’ll admit that I get nervous during traffic stops, even though I know I’m not doing anything wrong. Why? Just because you’re innocent doesn’t mean a cop won’t try anything funny, like planting evidence. It does happen and I actually fear the long-term repercussions of such an action more so than the “in the moment.”

There’s also one more factor to consider. It was very obvious from the search that the “suspect” drives for Uber. I can say this as a former Uber driver. I have had clientele accidentally leave and spill drugs in my vehicle that I didn’t see until the end of the day when I was done driving. What would happen if I was pulled over and they ended up calling a K-9 unit? I would get in trouble for my own clientele’s illegal behavior. I did get pulled over once while driving for Uber and it was an absolute baloney stop. Officer claimed I failed to yield at a stop sign at a right turn and I called him out on it because I HAD to stop. There was oncoming traffic coming from the left and I had to wait for that vehicle to pass through the intersection. Cop let me off with a warning but honestly, if he did site me, I would’ve FOIA’d the dash cam footage and taken it to traffic court. The cop had absolutely nothing. I had a passenger at the time too and she actually felt bad for me because she knew I didn’t do anything wrong either.

  • Even better, get your own dashcam. I don’t even want to be in a situation where I have to go to the police to get information for their own infractions.
  • I understand the officers in this situation were the ones in the wrong, but I do wish people would say, “I’d like to invoke my right to remain silent” (or something of the sort) rather than, “I don’t answer questions” in situations like these.
  • My friend is terrified of the police. She got into trouble when she was younger, that over a decade ago. The because of the bad experiences she had with police in the past, she shakes when she sees the police. When she got into an accident early this, she was shaking when the police came to question her. She did nothing wrong and did not get ticket for the crash. She was shaken the whole day.
  • These cops have a script to a tee. To get people out of the car, dude didn’t do anything wrong at all. What bull. Sniff this 🍑
  • Police often use nervousness as evidence of guilt but they induce the nervousness and should appreciate that. They clearly wanted to search his car. Imagine being handcuffed for improperly changing lanes. The dogs always hit, just the same way roadside drug tests often produce unreliable results. All of this stuff stems from our country needing to decriminalize several drugs.
  • Had a similar situation in winter springs fl way back about 2004. Florida is also a no tolerance state. But no open container charge.
  • 1:43, The Police just Committed a Crime. Assault. Assault is Defined as ANY UNWANTED PHYSICAL CONTACT. and they placed their hands on the victim and REMOVED HIM by force from his car because he was NOT permitting the officers to do a UNLAWFUL SEARCH of his Vehicle.

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Cops Get Fired, Arrested, and Sued After Unlawful Arrest

 

 

I find it despicable that Wal-Mart refused to allow her to pay for the items. If one of those employees stepped in and noticed her diminished mental condition, and then allowed her to pay, then this confrontation would not have happened.
“I was going to pay for it” “but you didn’t” BECAUSE THE EMPLOYEES REFUSED TO LET HER! My god this officer is not only a monster thinking he’s some big shot for taking down a mentally unwell, little old lady and thinking he freaking knows what happened when clearly he didn’t. I’m glad she filed a lawsuit against them and both no longer work for the police dept as well as charges against them. I hope they get found GUILTY for this behavior because they KNEW they were in the wrong, and proceeded to try to cover their tracks. I feel so bad for Karen, she didn’t deserve that.

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As a caregiver in a memory care facility, this brought me to tears. Absolutely sickening
This victim reminds me of my Mom who died just over a year ago from dementia. It’s hard to believe anyone (especially law enforcement officers) being so cruel to her and lacking basic humanity. Kudos to those who came to her aid in her time of need.
“She started running”
Liar.
Absolutely disgusting.
I started tearing up seeing him dislocate her shoulder.
Wow what a hero for hurting an 80lb elderly woman with dementia.
It’s ironic the cop tells a stranger to get all the facts before rushing to judgment.
Officer: “this is what you get when you mess with the police” Also Officer: goes to jail, gets public outrage, humiliation, and makes taxpayers pay 3 million dollars
I’m crying for this poor woman. I’ve a hidden disability that causes me to behave this way from time to time. It’s TERRIFYING.
He seriously celebrated that arrest? What’s to be proud of,the way he just had to prove what a “boss” he was, right! By throwing a tiny, little, old woman to the ground because she “resisted arrest”! Bollox! She made you feel small when she didn’t stop and you had to show her the full power of your authority!! Pathetic!! Now the guy in the white car, the one who stood up to the officer and told him he saw the whole arrest and she didn’t try to run away once.. he’s a boss! Edit note – actually he’s a dam hero!! He risked getting wrongfully arrested to help her! We need more people like him in our world!
This’s so heartbreaking. As a nurse, I worked with dementia patients for over a decade and the thought of any of them being treated this way makes me sick. When the officer first approached her, she was pleasantly confused and smiled at him. I’m sure she had no idea why this “nice young man” was talking to her. You can see it in her expression. With that in mind and understanding that a police officer’s roll in society is “to protect and serve”, it makes this one of the worst videos to watch. In that way, it reminds me of the video showing a man sweetly call a kitten over to him in a park, and when the kitten came running over to him calling, he kicked it through the air. The innocence in the world is too often crushed by the evil people in society. We have to stand up to those who crush that innocence. Can you imagine the pain and confusion Ms Garner was experiencing?… and then shackled to a bench with lacerations and fractures for hours without medical treatment. 😢 Anyone trying to say “He didn’t know”, watch his reaction to her after she’s in his vehicle and back at the station! He talked to her like a child because he knew her mental state was that of a child.

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You forgot the young man who confronted the police officers when he saw conduct that clearly disturbed him and struck him as wrong…. I’d give that young man an A.
I like how the dude stands his ground when the cop lies and says she was running “I seen her the whole time, she wasn’t running”.
Whats really horrifying is that the sergeant, and pretty sure everyone else in the dept, approved of the behavior and didnt reprimand the officers until they were sued
“No action was taken against the officers until a lawsuit was filed…” The fact that a lawsuit was required in order to get the bad apples removed, speaks volumes.
A law needs to be passed that prohibits fired cops from being hired by other departments

 

It’s satisfying to finally see officers held accountable for their conduct. This used to be completely acceptable conduct for police, and now they not only get fired for it, but they get charged as well (as they should).

The absolute balls on that guy to confront two random cops in what obviously isn’t his first language or his native country is amazing. What a hero, hats off to him
I wish one of these networks would give you a nationally syndicated show. I thank you for your channel. I really think your videos would help inform the public as to what is wrong with the way police do their job and could help bring police reform. I really appreciate what you do. THANK YOU
The fact he easily and quickly deescalated the bystander situation but couldn’t do the same for an elderly woman with dementia is just sad
Oddly, I’m upset with the Walmart employees for calling the police and escalating the situation. I’m not advocating for stealing, but it was only $13 worth of product. Walmart isn’t going to suffer over such a petty loss. Just let her take it—it was not worth the broken shoulder or trauma she suffered.
As someone who’s grandmother is in a similar state, I have nothing but loathing for the officers involved and the Wal-Mart management that all failed to help this woman. Just a couple of simple questions could have sorted out that she was having trouble, but no, they all had to treat her so terribly.
“You’re resisting, which isn’t going to fly with me” shows what a pathetic man he is when he feels the need to assert his dominance over a little old lady.
Where I came from, people would line up in the store to offer paying for what the old lady took. As we where raised to respect older people No matter what and this is what Im passing through to my kids. Seeing that lady go through pain not knowing what’s going on really hurts me. I hope she’s doing fine now.
“Dont judge the scene before you get all the facts.” Sometimes, irony just writes itself
As a caregiver who have seen many of these patients, this broke my heart.
As a former officer this made me sick to my stomach. I love old people and we much protect them at all costs that’s level of force was completely unnecessary. I was literally pissed watching this video. I’m glad she sued the s*** out of them! And shout out to that citizen who stood up against these wolves dressed as sheepdogs! He need a award as well.
I’m so glad that the police in my country get at least a 2 year training and in those 2 years and constantly after as well are being trained on how to deal with mentally unstable or ill people, development issues, physical ailments, confused people etc and even with aggression and stubbornness. You rarely see stuff like this or anything on this channel for that matter happening here.
I am getting sick and tired of departments allowing officers to resign in order to to not be held accountable for their actions, and not being put on the list.
Isn’t it funny how police can immediately charge a citizen for resisting arrest all while carrying around “qualified immunity” where it takes months to years to prove their unprofessionalism? I’m an advocate for getting rid of qualified immunity and letting officers carry their own insurance similar to malpractice insurance that doctors and nurses carry.
This could have been my mother who suffers from similar conditions. I cried throughout this video – disgraceful conduct..
“I’m going home. I’m going home.” This poor woman. My mom suffered from Alzheimer’s. It’s horrible. I’m shocked these officers didn’t recognize there was a mental issue here. Just horribly sad.
I didn’t even make it 2mins into the video and I’m already furious! The sheer level of ignorance. The amount of fear and confusion that woman must have felt is unimaginable. I lost one of my Grandparents to Alzheimer’s disease and it was heart breaking to watch her mental decline and how it affected her. Some days were almost like she was blissfully unaware but other times it was like she suddenly realised what was happening to her and what she was losing. The dread, fear and confusion in those moments were devastating. So watching this poor woman be mistreated because people don’t have time to consider or due to their ignorance figure out that there is an explanation for her behaviour is so hard to watch.
Edit: 7:56 oh freaking awesome, so it’s even in their own policies which means they WILL have been trained in this stuff?! So it’s not just ignorance. It’s WILLFUL ignorance!
I live in Loveland CO and cant beleive this happened. To think a $13 that she never even took was treated like this is so disrespectful and sickening.
Man, I have never seen anyone so proud of oppressing a weaker person. The cop seems so proud oh his action
A reasonable person knows how fragile elderly people are. Knowing this, this is an assault in my opinion.
It really angers me in the beginning how overly righteous and condescending he sounds when he speaks to this poor woman, who clearly is suffering from some kind of mass confusion/mental health episode. They can’t approach suspects like this like they’re pure evil, it isn’t black and white, you have to at least try to communicate properly before using force and immediate judgement. Edit: The citizen stopping and catching the officer in lies and asking for his Sargent was AMAZING.
It’s clear by the first officer sounding like he’s out of breath, he couldn’t handle anyone other than a child or an elderly female. The female officer is there to do no more than what it was found out later, sleeping with other officers. What a joke.
This one breaks my heart. My mom & aunt are at the age where they are becoming frail like this. If I saw an officer man handle one of them like this I would probably wind up in jail. Pick on someone your own size! He could have literally pinched her sweatshirt sleeve & that would have been enough to overpower this tiny old woman. She is clearly not a threat to society at large. Stealing is wrong regardless, but this is a tricky situation. The officers had no way of initially knowing that she was mentally disabled. I can agree with that. But they could absolutely see that she is a frail old woman & made better decision about use of force. & btw calling them “peace officers” makes me sick.
I wonder these days if there is a truly honest well trained and following the ‘To Protect and Serve’ cop anywhere in this country?? I was in law enforcement in the 70s and was proud to serve, but these days even I have a whole different look when I see an officer, wondering if they are corrupt or not. That is so sad!
Nobody would have ever known about this if it wasn’t filmed. This is what has been going on for years. It’s hard to watch, but there’s unprofessional cops in every state.
It’s absolutely amazing how the cops can all convince themselves and each other that they have done nothing wrong. Doesn’t matter what they’ve done – they all group-think themselves into believing that they acted within the law. It’s laughable. The only hope is that they watch the video in private and see what everyone else sees. Why couldn’t the cop see that something wasn’t right – does he not have a mother? Does he not recognise when someone is behaving oddly? He could have given her a lift home and made sure she was safe – it wasn’t like she was public enemy number 1.
the arrest itself was very difficult for me to watch.. she’s visibly confused and the officer immediately resorts to using physical force.. i hope she’s doing okay this must have been physically and mentally traumatizing for the poor lady
I know exactly when the shoulder injury happened. That was when he was controlling her arm causing her pain on purpose to teach a lesson or for self pleasure because she was not complying with him.
Update to this is that their Sargent Metzler- who participated in dropping her on the ground while loading her into a police car and signed off on this abuse as acceptable was allowed to work until he retired with full pay. The police chief Ticer who hired the miscreants, and also approved the beating they administered to this grandmother, now works in a retirement community in Arizona. Please pray for the unsuspecting seniors he will be “helping”………
She’s 73. He tells her if she kicks him “things will be bad”. Clearly this man was itching to beat up someone in cuffs. He had no intention of using just the amount of force necessary to stop the threat.
always nice to hear a officer say ‘i don’t care’ during an arrest especially when they don’t know all the details.
This video makes me furious every time I watch it And then how they laugh and joke later at the jail is some of the most egregious shit towards an elderly person I’ve ever seen
12:56 I refuse to believe that the cops were celebrating injuring an elderly woman. What is this world coming to
An update: Officer Hopp has been sentenced to 5 years in prison and 3 years probation. Accountability is getting better, next step is to stop the entire concept of internal investigation
You can tell how disconnected this cop is with everything. He treated this whole situation like it was a game.
>> The cop sounded like he was getting happy in the beginning of the stop. Like he was happy about finally being able to use some action.
>> Hey the cop was just playing GTA5 role play as a admin so it perfectly fine

>> Sounds like an 11 year old chattering with his gaming buddies

>>  @sergantawesom  I bet in his childhood he was the kid that would beat up a smaller kid and take his lunch money.

>> Is it just me or are these officers huffing and puffing over a 73 year old lady.

I’m a retail manager. This is appalling. If the “customer” offers to pay for the stuff, that’s acceptable. My first issue is with the employees who should have accepted payment and then simply told her she’s not welcome there anymore. (NOTE: That’s regardless of knowledge of mental capacity). My second issue is then with the police where it became obvious that she does have some mental disadvantages. Either way, the police were wrong in their approach. They didn’t bother to talk amicably with her. It was immediate detention.
This is so sad that this lady went through this. I am thankful she did file the lawsuit and won however, the pain had to be so excruciating. Elderly don’t heal fast. I will be waiting to see or hear their trials. Thank you for sharing these audits.
The fact that concerned man wasn’t even fluent in English and had the bravery to confront that aggressive cop was amazing!!! He must of been prepared to go to jail.
Cops should have NO means to delete footage, EVER. There’s no reason for someone with so much power to have more access than a retail employee has with cctv cameras.
Right from start, in the first 30 seconds, even I could see the lady was not 100% – 5′ tall and 80lb with dementia does not pose a threat. The whole thing could have been avoided if he just stopped for a second and reassessed the situation. He could have explained it to her, given her a ride home, talked to the caregiver who would have probably gone and paid the bill at WalMart. And good on that dude rolling up and challenging the cops treatment of that lady.
You can hear the joy in this man’s voice while he’s man handling this frail old woman
I remember a time we’re old ladies and ladies in general we’re treaded with respect. Today police in America seem to see in humans only criminals and non criminals. No nuance’s whatsoever. Sad.
The fact that there was an “internal review” and they found this use of force “reasonable” shows just how corrupt most internal reviews actually are. “We investigated ourselves and have found nothing wrong”.
Cops so many times just spew out lies without hesitation so often on these videos it’s ridiculous
“Do you feel better knowing all the facts?” How can you ask someone that when you didn’t know all the facts? No effort to de-escalate the situation whatsoever.
What kills me is that she tried to pay and they just confused the crap out of her instead. I don’t think I have ever seen such a aggressive Wal-Mart employee.
Aw what a sweet young lady! I feel so bad for her. I really hope she is getting the care she desperately needs after such a traumatic encounter 🙁
Just once it’d be nice to see the cop say to the concerned onlooker, “Here are the things you need to file a complaint. Thank you for looking out for this community and keeping us honest.”
That pos officer’s tone of voice is infuriating. He was talking to her like a small child but physically manhandled her like she was an NFL linebacker. The fact that their bosses tried to sweep it under the rug until they had no choice but to break the blue wall is why people hate the police.
Friendly reminder that the prosecutor who dropped the charges reviewed the body cam footage and only dropped charges to protect the officers involved in hopes that this body cam wouldn’t be released to the public.
When the lady just kept saying she was going home in a confused tone they should have suspected something wasn’t mentally right with her and they should have been more accommodating.
It’s amazing how this officer just had no clue. It’s obvious this lady had an issue from first contact. You could see how clueless she was when she turned around. She had a confused look on her face and that was very clear.
There is just one major problem here. When the woman was stopped at the store by a store employee she offered the store employee her credit card to pay for the items she was walking out with. She offered to pay and instead the store employee said no and took the items back from her. Thus no crime was committed.
This is why I teach my children to respect the law and authority, but always keep your guard up around the police.
I disagree. They showed just enough force to restrain the perpetrator at the time of confrontation
Thank God we have officers out there protecting Walmart from losing $13 what would our world be like without them complete chaos
The way the cop physically, without speaking, threatened to destroy her shoulder when he was saying don’t kick at her terrifies me. He could have ruined her rotator cuff just with how he was pressing her arm.
The cop’s tone of voice genuinely upsets me. It’s so condescending I’m disgusted and if I met him in a bar or something I don’t think I could hold a conversation longer than 20 seconds with him.
That’s why these cameras are so important. Cops like these need to be held accountable. The fact that they tried covering their tracks makes this far worse. We need to normalize disciplining officers who abuse their power more.
I used to do undercover loss prevention and it was a district supervisor where I live. Why in the hell didn’t the Walmart employees let her to pay for the items and leave. I hope they got fired and get sued as well.
The manner in which she said “I’m going home” should have been an immediate indication that she is confused and not a threat.
>> Exactly. It shows the officers not only lack a brain, they also lack a heart.
>>  @utubepunk  having people skills is frowned upon within most police departments

>> The fact she was 80 pounds should have made it clear she wasn’t a threat.

>> They should know signs of dementia. They know every side effect of drug use, they should know mental health as well. I’m going home is something I heard my grandpa say many many times.

>> Repetitive and disjointed speach, no sense of surroundings , inability to ascertain a situation. Clear signs of mental illness. Maybe drug abuse. But that’s a grandma who lost her marbles and is in need of help, not policing.

>> Attempting to delete body cam footage? That’s corruption at its core. Punching down and chest bumping during and after the incident infuriates me. Glad justice was served on the police for misconduct.

The most disgusting thing is their happy tone the entire time. They became police to harm people without fear of reprisal and accountability. Think how many more of them there are.

I didnt know that trying to pay for items you forgot to pay for and having the items taken back and then leaving counted as stealing, attempting to steal or warranted being tackled.
Scary how much fun he was having and how condescending he was to the citizen that confronted him
This situation boils my blood as former LEO. I was giving the officers the benefit of the doubt at the beginning. No way they could know she had dementia and she wasn’t a habitual shop lifter. But the way treated her without any medical attention and she laid on that bench in pain while they watched the body cam footage and celebrated the arrest of a 5 foot 80 lbs grandma, is disgusting. The reason they watch the footage was because of that concerned person witnessing the excessive force so they could come up with an excuse if he filed a complaint.
Something similar happened in my town. They arrested her and then released her in the middle of the night with no phone or care. She was found wandering the streets by her family a day later

What Rights Do You Have To Stop Cops From Entering Your House – Warrants, Consent, Exigency

What Rights Do You Have To Stop Cops From Entering Your House – Warrants, Consent, Exigency

When can Cops enter your home? What cops use to enter your home. I discuss how Gov or Law Enforcement can gain entry to your home and under what circumstances they can enter your home without your consent or approval.

I have a video about why you should not talk to cops that I encourage all people to watch. Nothing good comes from talking or cooperating with the Gov. Once Gov is involved it can only down hill from there. Once Gov gets an inch of control they will always want more and you will end up playing catch up and wishing Gov was never invovled. Here is the link to that video:
http://www.thinklikeahorse.org/All_Ab…

I have said many times when I was a cop – It is better if you don’t make a statement, don’t talk to me and remain silent. There is an attitude that if you remain silent or refuse to talk, then you must be guilty or have something to hide. In the current adversarial relationship between citizens and the Government, protecting yourself should be your primary concern.

Nothing you say can help you and can only be used against you. Police work for the Government and politicians, they have careers to protect, policy to follow, they make mistakes, they misremember things, some things are accidentally left out of reports, their memory is not perfect and many other factors can come into play and you may become collateral damage during an investigation. The old saying, Truth is what the cop puts in the police report, is true to many.

Any lawyer will tell you DO NOT talk to the cops or give any statements. Anything you say can be misunderstood, taken wrong, repeated wrong, remembered wrong, important parts can be forgotten, confused or intentionally withheld by the Government, especially if it hurts their case.

This video is a Lawyer that explains this very well. Invest 20 minutes and watch this video where this experienced Lawyer gives specific reasons on why you should not talk to the Police.

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As a law abiding citizen I appreciate the information but the behavior you described of cops today is very concerning. What happened to protect and serve. You see more and more police departments looking more and more like military operatives and that is scary even as a law abiding citizen.

 

 

If this is true–that cops can create exigent circumstances on a whim and thus can break in without consequences–the system needs to CHANGE. One of the important critical costs of individual liberty that an individual having a right to be secure in his person is that COPS DO NOT HAVE THE AUTOMATIC RIGHT TO WIN unless they can prove it to a judge who would provide a warrant. A person’s home is his sanctuary. Period. If cops want to snag someone who’s in his house and don’t have a warrant, starve him out. Don’t break in. If someone’s life is in danger, cops don’t have–that is, should not have–the limitless power to resolve the situation, not at the cost of one’s right to be secure. To argue otherwise is to give absolute power to a police state, which I’m beginning to realize we may have already become, rather than a nation governed by individual rights. But the greater crime is in the courts/”justice” system that have successfully absolved such tyrannical violations of the 4th amendment and given what was said in this video the backing of precedent. Checks and balances clearly end at the courts, a tragedy that is ultimately causing the implosion of our nation. Granted, the stories this guy shares are examples of where having a police state worked out nicely.

 

So you can do nothing wrong but be a victim of impatient cops attending a bogus call, not even get charged, and still receive a record? “Land of the free” The more I learn about our legal system the more I despise it, it’s despicable and constantly stacked against the citizens. A cop will give you a record just because he didn’t want to have to justify his unneeded use of force on paper. What the hell…

 

most everything you’ve said is why law enforcement has very low respect. I had a DA tell me Law Enforcement is not an honorable job anymore.

 

“There’s a difference between kicking a door and preventing you from closing the door” that right there tells you everything you need to know about cops.

 

by the way I am law abiding citizen and a veteran … I believe in the constitution to the fullest! officers infringe on that daily! a good friend of mine that I severed with  just became a officer in texas … his class skipped over learning bout the constitution … umm… that’s an issue for me … how many agencies do that !? isn’t the fucking constitution the basis for our laws ,rights, way of life ?
Officer, what you’re saying is that police will, after violently harming an innocent person, will arrest them, book them, and give them a criminal record so they don’t look bad? That’s what I would call a disgusting and evil action.  That, and the victim of those perpetrators would also have a good claim for a 1983 suit.
Wrong house and home owner gets killed or shot and injured? In my opinion the fact that you got the wrong house means you’re wrong and completely liable for anything and everything. Period.
An attorney named Dale Carson wrote a book called “Arrestproof Yourself”. In that book he stresses that when ever you deal with government and law enforcement to ‘Shut the hell up”. To never EVER start talking to them. That they are NOT your friends. That book should be required reading for every citizen of this country. The information contained would help to put the kabash on a lot of governmental and law enforcement abuse. Most police I know are pretty good people just doing a dirty job. But I have met a few who I am amazed ever passed a psych test.
I appreciate your information, except the part where you laugh about busting in the wrong house and you told the lady to have the city pay for the damage. Disgusting! How would you feel if someone busted into your home and just said, “oops, I made a mistake. Sorry“? Yeah, that’s what I thought. This is why a lot of people hate the cops. The “I can do anything I want because I’m a cop and my union and the city will protect me” Is absolutely disgusting.
I must have been 18 yrs old and in my 1st apartment. One morning police knock on my door and I opened it, next the officer asked to come in, I complied. At that point I felt violated because behind that 1st officer was another 6 cops. They each went through all my rooms, drawers, closets, etc… I realized I made a mistake, I was young but I learned that just because I had nothing to hide doesn’t mean I didn’t have rights.
if this does not convince you that you live in a police state I don’t know what will
This man swore an oath to uphold the constitution? Let that sink in a while.
long story short…sounds like they can make up any excuse and enter your house without your consent or warrant
You should have explained how cops trick people into letting them in because the cops don’t specify what kind of warrant, a search warrant and an arrest warrant are two entirely different things. And how an arrest warrant doesn’t give any cop entry into a home unless the cop just saw the person enter the home, or the cop sees the person in the home. Cops will yell, ‘we have a warrant’, but they don’t say it’s an arrest warrant, trying to scare people into opening their door, when they don’t have to open the door. Cops rely on people being ignorant of the law, due process, procedure, etc. If cops say they have a search warrant, they have to show it to you upon request, and it has to have a penned signature by a judge, and it needs to be very specific about where and why. If it has 1 error, then it should be considered null and void.
  • I heard somebody say help so I kicked the door in.
  • I saw somebody moving the house so I kicked the door in. I
  • thought I smelt smoke so I kicked your door in.
  • It was cold outside so I kicked your door in.
Sounds like a warrant is pretty useless to me when all you have to do is make up some bull shit excuse to get in. Never ever talk to the cops they are not your friend…
>> they can lie and they ain’t gonna believe you.
80% of police work is causing people grief over b.s., to collect fines. Policing for profit. 20% is positive and necessary .
Also your “goofy” presentation style and apparently cavalier attitude toward the violation of citizen rights seems to be in line with the way law enforcement treats citizens these days: with disrespect
I love this guy’s stories! Also, thanks for keeping it real with us citizen’s who ate struggling to not offend authorities to the point of incarceration due to wounded ego vs. Expecting privacy of self and property as guaranteed under the 4th amendment.
It’s absolutely a violation of our civil rights to force entry while you wait for a warrant. A homeowner would be perfectly justified to defend themselves against such use of unlawful force. A warrant is the ONLY justification for you to force entry. An officer is sworn to defend our rights as guaranteed by the Constitution. If an officer violates that oath by failing to follow proper due process, he is no longer properly acting as the enforcement arm of the law. At any point that the officer violates his duty to defend and uphold our rights as guaranteed by the Constitution, he ceases to be Constitutionally justified in his actions, and is subject to the same counteracting use of force that any common criminal would be. We have to protect the absolute fail-safe right of We the People to use defensive force against ANY intruder who does not have a proper warrant. Otherwise, you end up with unscrupulous officers using loopholes such as the ones described in the video to enter unlawfully.
Great video and great info. The statements about the officers making decisions to cover their own butts instead of following the law and protecting the rights of the citizens are very sad but true. Also the statements about the cops having a chip on their their shoulder for anyone you does not follow all their “orders” whether those orders are lawfully given or not. People with that sort of ego should not be given a badge and gun. I think we are all going to have to start wearing body cameras to have evidence when these behaviors happen. Unfortunately, it is too easy for an officer to lie about what happened to make it sound like he was right. The DA and the judge will tend to believe him, not the citizen. So the citizen gets screwed.
Well since everyone is sharing, I guess I should too… I lived in Hamilton Ohio with my wife and first child. I was playing on my Xbox 360 and had been for about 2 and a half hrs and suddenly heard someone talking at my window,” are you sure? This guy is sitting here playing a video game.” I instantly tensed up not knowing what was about to happen. I then heard a knock at the door and got up to go answer it. I asked through the door who it was and they said HPD can you open the door so we can speak with you for a moment. So being only 19 at the time I was unaware of my rights regarding entry to my home, I opened the door to have a word and was instantly bulled back by a police officer and pushed on to my ottoman and told not to stand up while being held at gunpoint. 6 other police officers rushed in behind him in swat garb with assault rifles and started searching the house. I asked what was going on and the on who was standing over me with his pistol told me they received a call that a woman was being held hostage by a man with an assault rifles, then he asked me if I had any firearms and if there was anyone else in the house. I told him about my dad’s shotgun in the next room in a locked case and that my wife and daughter were upstairs sleeping. Two officers then went upstairs to wake up my wife and daughter to “make sure they were ok” then promptly left. If that isn’t messed up and illegal idk what is. Note: this was probably around 2-3 am
We’ve investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing.
What about the classic “You open the door and the cop sticks their foot in the door so you can’t close it, tactic.” Why did you leave that part out?
“I smell marijuana.” How does someone overcome this since cops are allowed to lie?
>> Cops are not allowed lie about facts that develop their PC.
>>  @S Campbell  But, they do.
At the beginning you list only 3 ways a cop can enter someone’s house. You left out the one most often used.
COERCION
coercion noun plural noun: coercions
The practice of persuading someone to do something by using force or threats.

>> @Ricky Mellottsr  “either let us in now or we are going to come back with a warrant. if you make us get a warrant you are going to make us mad. when we return with that warrant we will search and destroy your property.” and they will destroy everything.

I appreciate straight-talkers, regardless of what they’re saying or their message. Thank you for your prospective, insight, and this conveyance. It was informative and clear.
So the key is too keep them off the property and keep the door closed. Also by federal law cops cuffing and not arresting you is a battery. Don’t believe me, ask a lawyer. He is also just admitted HE IS A DIRTY COP by saying he books people that he knows haven’t committed a crime and seeing other do so because he and them don’t want to have to justify their use of force. He is exactly what’s wrong with the cops in the US.
Thanks for your information and it’s pretty accurate as far as I can tell. You at least seem like a stand up guy and sincere on your points that are well taken. Nowadays the disconnect comes in when cops over-step their bounds then double down with petty retaliation tactics.THEN the citizens seem to have NO recourse when it’s plain that the cops were wrong and it’s even plain that the “revenge” tactic was done for obvious reasons. Plain and simple fact is ordinary citizens do not like being treated and talked to like they are ALREADY in prison. (Very unprofessional) All due respect to the job, but not to some of these bullies and thugs that we ALL know are out there. Thanks in advance for giving me this platform to air my personal opinion.
In other words, The Fourth Amendment protects nothing.
How is anyone supposed to know that the person banging on your door is an actual cop?
6:59When your working on an exigency situation to get in someones house, Its up to the cop to create that exigency” I have a problem with a lot of this. It is not illegal to not answer the door, even if its a cop. Its not illegal to no not acknowledge the cops even if they see you inside not answering them. I get it, someone called…. Talk to the caller, if they dont say anything that gives exigency to the situation in and of itself then aww well. Do not pass go. Stay the fuck outta my house. I’m in here getting paranoid like a motherfu**er and your killin my buzz from these brownies my aunt made me for Christmas
I found this video to be very disturbing. Something about this video seems to trivializing immorality. First of all, a cop should be intelligent enough and careful enough to NOT go to the WRONG house, especially knowing what the consequences could be. A person could be running in their house for any reason. Perhaps a person is not suitably dressed and runs to put something decent on. Normally people (myself included) don’t expect someone to kick the door of the house so they might hang around the house looking any kind of way. As far as exigency, I need clarification. Is exigency always started for the benefit of the resident or can it be used for other reasons? A neighbor’s call might indicate exigency or not mean anything, especially when people call cops on their neighbors out of spite. The purpose of a welfare check is to benefit the person who’s welfare is at risk. The person who the call was made for or didn’t instantly answer the door should not be abused because “he’s a jerk that pissed off one of our people…” What does that have to do with the welfare of the victim? At this point, the issue is ego and not ‘serving and protecting’. This video was informative but left me feeling very sad and with a little less respect for the police, because as I said it trivialized certain things that don’t need to happen.

The Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
I believe in warrants.Yet when cops use warrants and they find nothing.They should be held to accountability.This does not happen now. This is where law on warrants should be changed. Such as there should be folks there with cops , that are trust worthy to watch every move of the cops. Cops are not trust worthy. This is a added accountability for cops to try to keep them honest. If cops are caught by these mediators planting stuff. Then the cops are automatically given twenty years. with out parole. When warrants are issued for wrong address.Then these cops who bust down the door and terrorize a family.Then these thugs should be charged with terroristic tactics. These terrorist should be charged with a felony with at least a minimum of 25 years to life in prison. Cops by nature are dishonest and natural born liars. The system protects these terrorist. Warrant system and blue privelege is what also protects these criminals. Cops are not human they are animals.

 

You’re laughing about entering the wrong residence. You’re laughing about walking away as the lady is frantic because you broke her window. You’re laughing as you say you tell her the city will pay for it. Then, later in your discussion, you joke about entering someone’s residence after chasing the “large black man”, drawing your weapon and scaring the daylights out of innocent people. I’m sure it DEFINITELY wasn’t funny then. Why do you think it’s funny later? What’s funny about that?
This is the kind of logic that’s what’s wrong with this country. You LEO’s somehow believe you’re justified in your actions – despite you ADMITTING you messed up or, later, aiming your weapon at innocent people. WTF?! There’s never been another time in America where citizens have a strong dislike and distrust for police than there is now. Do you really believe talking about your past transgressions in this manner is going to help? And just because someone is a “jerk” to LEO’s doesn’t excuse illegal action. It’s this mindset that somehow, because you have a badge and you’ve been disrespected, you have the “right” to infringe on the rights of others. I do applaud you for educating the public regarding your train of thought and a glimpse into the mind of a LEO. It IS helpful. I just think you could’ve handled it better.
police don’t get into trouble anyways no matter what they do, they always get a slap on the hand .
>> not true, cops lose their job very easy for misconduct and lying, but they have be caught red handed and with video that is getting easier.
>>  even with clear video of them committing crimes like murder and other major violation of the law, some of them only get a light sentence, that amounts to nothing, and some time no jail time just fired ..

>> It may seem that way but being a cop is not easy and there is just so many laws, policies, court cases, use of force rules it is an enormous amount of information to process in a spit second that can mean you either die or live..  the courts and Gov knows if they do not give a lot of protection for the guys doing the job, then it will harder to find people willing do it.  Unless the Gov crashes the economy so the only jobs are in Gov that way no can say no or go against them or they will be without jobs..  Believe me NO cop goes to work thinking yee haw I can do whatever I want and I don’t have any worries…  it is the opposite.

These are your rights if police knock on your door

Do you need to open the door to police, or even speak to them? And can they come into your home? Here are some things to consider.

What are your rights if the police knock on your door? Here's what you need to know.
What are your rights if the police knock on your door? Here’s what you need to know.Cynthia Greer

If one day the police show up at your door, what do you do? What can you do?

For many people, that can be a pretty stressful situation — especially considering that you may not know why they’re there in the first place.

There are many reasons why the police may be at your door, such as a wellness check, a neighborhood survey for information about a crime in the area, or responding to a 911 call. The reason matters. For example, if the police have a warrant, how you need to respond is very different than if they don’t.

“If they have a warrant, you have to open the door,” says civil rights attorney Riley H. Ross III. “If you don’t open the door, then they can take that door down and come into your home.”

But what if it’s a “knock and talk”? That is an investigative technique in which police knock on your door and request to enter your home or ask you questions in order to gain more information about a case. It is generally used if police believe you are involved in criminal conduct but don’t believe they have enough information to get a warrant, says David Rudovsky, a civil rights attorney and senior fellow at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School.

“Yes, the police have the right — not randomly, but pretty broadly — to do this ‘knock and talk’ if they’ve got some reason to think that the people inside are engaged in criminal conduct,” Rudovsky says. But just as they have that right, you have certain rights in the situation, too.

If you feel comfortable speaking with the police, that is an option. But if you don’t feel comfortable, you may wonder what your rights and obligations are in that situation.

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Do you need to open the door to police, or even speak to them? And can they come into your home? Here are some things to consider:

Do I need to open my door if police knock?

Not always. If police have a warrant, or there are compelling conditions known as “exigent circumstances” (more on that later), you do. But if police are at your door for most other purposes, then police are “like anyone who knocks at your door,” and you’re not legally required to open up, says Jules Epstein, a professor of law and director of advocacy programs at the Temple University Beasley School of Law. That approach, Rudovsky adds, also likely applies to “any government official,” such as immigration officers or the FBI.

Ask why they are there. “Unless you called the police, or you think there’s some good reason why the police are there to help you — and you can certainly inquire — you don’t have to open your door,” Rudovsky says. “You can say, ‘What are you looking for? What do you want?’ and ‘I don’t need your help. Please go away.’”

If you do open the door, it may come with some risks, Rudovsky says. For police can seize illegal items and charge you for having them if they are in “plain view,” such as illegal drugs on a table that can be seen from the door, or if the officers are legally in your space.

You are generally not required to speak with police. But there are things you can do to feel safer speaking with them.
You are generally not required to speak with police. But there are things you can do to feel safer speaking with them.CHARLES FOX / Staff Photographer

If you feel scared in this situation, that is normal

Deciding what to do in the moment can be difficult — particularly for people of color, says Ebony White, an assistant clinical professor in the College of Nursing and Health Professions of Drexel University, whose research focuses on how individual and systemic racism impacts people, family, and communities of color. For many people of color, she says, seeing or dealing with police can create “a physiological response” because of the stress of the situation, as well as prolonged, collective trauma.

“There’s a mistrust of law enforcement by Black people, and within Black communities, because even though the model is often to serve and protect, we’ve witnessed in our communities a disruptive and violent presence,” White says. “For a long time, even though on the books we have rights, those rights haven’t been protected or respected.”

Still, she says, you should “do what you can to lean into your rights,” and stay present in the moment. Ross, meanwhile, says that the importance of asserting your rights — such as by declining to open the door — is “universal, especially in communities of color when there’s concern about your rights being violated.”

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Do I have to speak to the police?

You generally are not required to speak with police. But there are things you can do to feel safer speaking with them, including:

  • Going outside to speak to them.

  • Speaking through the door.

The American Civil Liberties Union, for example, suggests speaking through a door, but only to ask if the officers have a warrant, or to decline speaking with them directly.

“You can tell them, ‘I don’t want to speak with you, and I’d like for you to get off of my property’ — and there’s nothing wrong with you saying that,” Ross says. “You could say whatever you like that conveys the fact that you don’t want to open the door.”

You can also choose to be silent and not interact because, as Ross puts it, “you don’t have to speak to the police,” and you have the right to remain silent. Ultimately, the choice depends on the circumstances of the situation, and how comfortable you feel with speaking to the authorities.

“I don’t see that [being silent] would constitute a crime if they don’t have a warrant to be in your home,” Ross says. “Now, here’s the other thing, though: You’ve got to be careful that you don’t do something that creates exigent circumstances. If all your lights are on, and you were just moving about, and [the police] knocked on the door, it could be something they use to build a case against you as to why they should come into the home.”

In deciding how to respond, White suggests that you “think about what your ultimate goal is,” and do what you think is appropriate to work toward achieving that goal. That is an important distinction for people of color, White says, because “there is a certain way in which we have to interact with the police” to keep situations from escalating.

“Is feeling respected your ultimate goal? Is being alive your ultimate goal? Is it feeling heard?” she asks. “For most of us, we want to be alive, and oftentimes that means doing what we can to comply and be perceived as nonthreatening.”

Do I have to let police in my house?

In many cases, no. The Fourth Amendment gives people the right to be “secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures.” So, generally, in order to come in or search your home without your consent, police need to get a warrant — and if they don’t have one and ask for your consent to search instead, you can say no.

But if they do have a warrant, or exigent circumstances exist, it’s another story.

“When police knock and say they have a warrant, they have the right to come in. And if you don’t open the door, they may have the right to force the door open,” Epstein says. So, in that case, you need to answer in a reasonable amount of time — otherwise, they likely can kick your door in. But, the ACLU notes online, you do have the right to read the warrant.

What are exigent circumstances?

Exigent circumstances give the police the ability to enter your home with neither your consent nor a warrant in situations where getting a warrant would be impractical. While the definition can be complicated, generally, exigent circumstances are when police need to enter your home for a specific reason, including:

  • To prevent physical harm to the officers themselves or others.

  • To keep relevant evidence in a crime from being destroyed.

  • To prevent a suspect from escaping.

  • To continue the “hot pursuit” of a suspect.

This can sometimes be complicated, Rudovsky says, because in some cases police have “created that exigency” to go in. Generally, he adds, the Supreme Court has ruled that sometimes “exigencies are validly created,” and police can come in if your response “creates more suspicion,” he adds. That could mean continuous flushing of toilets (which may mean drug evidence being destroyed) or the sounds of people trying to get out a back window.

What if I feel like my rights have been violated?

If you feel your rights have been violated, or that you have been mistreated in an interaction with police at your home, there are steps you can take.

  • Document what happened. “The best things to do are document it while they are there, or immediately thereafter. Talk to neighbors and get their accounts immediately thereafter while it is fresh in people’s minds,” Epstein says. That can be done by filming with a cell phone, talking through what happened into a recording app, or simply writing the information down. The ACLU suggests taking down the names and badge numbers of any officers involved.

  • If you want to make a complaint. In Philadelphia, you can file a complaint with the Philadelphia Police Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau, or the Police Advisory Commission (though that will soon be replaced by another entity). Epstein also suggests speaking with a city council member, a block captain, or a local religious leader to help organize your complaint and have your voice heard. And in some situations, legal action may also be appropriate.

White also suggests speaking with available community groups about your interaction, or, if there are none in your area, forming one. Counseling, she says, can also be helpful in maintaining “a semblance of sanity while going through this insanity.”

But what is not advisable if you feel your rights are being violated, Ross says, is resisting in the moment by force. If, for example, police are pushing in your door to come in with your consent, a warrant, or exigent circumstances, pushing back or physically resisting can result in a worse situation.

“You can assert your rights and say that an officer doesn’t have the right to come into your home, but just be careful not to do anything that’s going to lead to further problems for you,” Ross says. “Don’t hit the officer, because that’s going to result in assault. If they’re violating your rights, it’s something that is going to have to be worked out in court with a lawyer in order to right that wrong that they’re doing.”

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Expert sources:
  • Riley H. Ross III, JD, civil rights attorney and partner at Philadelphia law firm Mincey Fitzpatrick Ross.

  • Ebony White, Ph.D., licensed professional counselor and assistant clinical professor at the College of Nursing and Health Professions of Drexel University.

  • David Rudovsky, JD, civil rights attorney and senior fellow at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School.

  • ·Jules Epstein, JD, professor of law and director of advocacy programs at the Temple University Beasley School of Law.