Lindsey Graham Compared Rudy Giuliani’s Legal Work To That Of A Third Grader

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham wanted Trump to win a second term, but he wasn’t persuaded at all by the so-called “evidence” that Rudy Giuliani presented to him. According to a new book by Bob Woodward, Graham likened the work done by Giuliani to that of a third grader, and those close to Graham who also looked at the material described it as “sloppy” and questioned whether any of it was even real. Farron Cousins explains what happened.


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According to Bob Woodward’s new book peril. Lindsey Graham was one of the individuals brought in to the white house on January 2nd. We’re Rudy Giuliani talked to everybody there about how the election was allegedly stolen. And Lindsey Graham, according to the book was pressing Rudy Giuliani. Give me names, right? Give us the evidence you say you’ve got all this evidence. Give it to us. I’m the chair of the Senate judiciary committee, at least for a couple more days, Rudy. So let’s get on this buddy. Give me what you got. Well, a couple days later, Rudy Giuliani came through and he gave Lindsey Graham a packet, a packet that Lindsey Graham passed over to Lee Holmes, who was then the, uh, lead attorney for the Senate judiciary committee. And homes described the work as shoddy homes. When, as far as to question whether or not the sources that Giuliana used were even real, if they even existed. And once Lindsay Graham got his hands on the packet and he looks through it, he likened the work to that of a third grader, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham basically said that Rudy Giuliani’s legal work here because this is what it was. He was setting up the legal challenges, uh, could have been done by a third grader because it was so, so bad. This is Rudy Giuliani folks. And again, all of this is according to Woodward’s new book, but this is Rudy Giuliani, right? This was a man on the cover of time magazine, following nine 11. This was America’s mayor, right? The guy who came close, I guess you would say to, you know, possibly being a president of the United States. This is the guy who just in 2006, went to bat for, uh, you know, the, the big opioid companies and won in court for them. And he had been reduced to basically, you know what? We can surmise from this information, making stuff up to make Donald Trump happy and let’s not get this wrong. Lindsay Graham wanted Donald Trump to win Lindsey. Graham was at the white house that day because he thought there was a chance they could overturn the election. Lindsey Graham didn’t just happen to stumble into the oval office and say, oh shoot, is there a meeting here? Oh, okay. Yeah, I’ll sit and listen. Why not? Right? No. He was invited there and he accepted the invitation because he thought there was a chance, but Giuliani was so fricking terrible at what he does. And he had no evidence at all that Lindsay Graham was like, wow, this could have been put together by an elementary school student. Rudy Giuliani has ruined his reputation. Rudy Giuliani ruined any chance of having a decent legacy all because he decided to throw his lot in with Donald Trump. That was a choice he made because at one point he believed he was going to be rewarded. And now Trump won’t even return his phone calls. Trump won’t help him pay his massive legal bills that continue to Mount Giuliani has been left out in the cold. Donald Trump could not care less about what happens to Rudy Giuliani and Lindsey Graham. Even though you didn’t go along with Giuliani’s plan here, you need to take note of that because you’ve also been a, a loyal lapdog to Donald Trump. And you need to realize that that loyalty is not a two way street, buddy. The second you are no longer useful to him or the second you are in need, you’re going to be cast out and you’re going to find yourself pretty lonely with the exception of course, of having Rudy Giuliani for company. Because Trump won’t talk to him either.


Trump Campaign Knew Lawyers’ Voting Machine Claims Were Baseless, Memo Shows

Days before lawyers allied with Donald Trump gave a news conference promoting election conspiracy theories, his campaign had determined that many of those claims were false, court filings reveal.

Two weeks after the 2020 election, a team of lawyers closely allied with Donald J. Trump held a widely watched news conference at the Republican Party’s headquarters in Washington. At the event, they laid out a bizarre conspiracy theory claiming that a voting machine company had worked with an election software firm, the financier George Soros and Venezuela to steal the presidential contest from Mr. Trump.

But there was a problem for the Trump team, according to court documents released on Monday evening.

By the time the news conference occurred on Nov. 19, Mr. Trump’s campaign had already prepared an internal memo on many of the outlandish claims about the company, Dominion Voting Systems, and the separate software company, Smartmatic. The memo had determined that those allegations were untrue.

The court papers, which were initially filed late last week as a motion in a defamation lawsuit brought against the campaign and others by a former Dominion employee, Eric Coomer, contain evidence that officials in the Trump campaign were aware early on that many of the claims against the companies were baseless.

The documents also suggest that the campaign sat on its findings about Dominion even as Sidney Powell and other lawyers attacked the company in the conservative media and ultimately filed four federal lawsuits accusing it of a vast conspiracy to rig the election against Mr. Trump.

According to emails contained in the documents, Zach Parkinson, then the campaign’s deputy director of communications, reached out to subordinates on Nov. 13 asking them to “substantiate or debunk” several matters concerning Dominion. The next day, the emails show, Mr. Parkinson received a copy of a memo cobbled together by his staff from what largely appear to be news articles and public fact-checking services.

Even though the memo was hastily assembled, it rebutted a series of allegations that Ms. Powell and others were making in public. It found:

  • That Dominion did not use voting technology from the software company, Smartmatic, in the 2020 election.

  • That Dominion had no direct ties to Venezuela or to Mr. Soros.

  • And that there was no evidence that Dominion’s leadership had connections to left-wing “antifa” activists, as Ms. Powell and others had claimed.

As Mr. Coomer’s lawyers wrote in their motion in the defamation suit, “The memo produced by the Trump campaign shows that, at least internally, the Trump campaign found there was no evidence to support the conspiracy theories regarding Dominion” and Mr. Coomer.

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Read the Trump campaign’s internal memo

Last November, communications staff members on the Trump campaign hastily assembled a memo examining outlandish election claims. The memo found that many of the allegations were baseless.


Even at the time, many political observers and voters, Democratic and Republican alike, dismissed the efforts by Ms. Powell and other pro-Trump lawyers like Rudolph W. Giuliani as a wild, last-ditch attempt to appease a defeated president in denial of his loss. But the false theories they spread quickly gained currency in the conservative media and endure nearly a year later.

It is unclear if Mr. Trump knew about or saw the memo; still, the documents suggest that his campaign’s communications staff remained silent about what it knew of the claims against Dominion at a moment when the allegations were circulating freely.

“The Trump campaign continued to allow its agents,” the motion says, “to advance debunked conspiracy theories and defame” Mr. Coomer, “apparently without providing them with their own research debunking those theories.”

Credit…Bob Andres/Atlanta Journal-Constitution via Associated Press

Mr. Coomer, Dominion’s onetime director of product strategy and security, sued Ms. Powell, Mr. Giuliani, the Trump campaign and others last year in state district court in Denver. He has said that after the election, he was wrongly accused by a right-wing podcast host of hacking his company’s systems to ensure Mr. Trump’s defeat and of then telling left-wing activists that he had done so.

Soon after the host, Joe Oltmann, made these accusations, they were seized upon and amplified by Ms. Powell and Mr. Giuliani, who were part of a self-described “elite strike force” of lawyers leading the charge in challenging Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s victory.

On Nov. 19, for example, Ms. Powell and Mr. Giuliani appeared together at the news conference at the Republican National Committee’s headquarters and placed Mr. Coomer at the center of a plot to hijack the election by hacking Dominion’s voting machines. By Ms. Powell’s account that day, the conspiracy included Smartmatic, Venezuelan officials, people connected to Mr. Soros and a “massive influence of communist money.”

Ms. Powell and Mr. Giuliani did not respond to messages seeking comment on the documents. Representatives for Mr. Trump also did not respond to emails seeking comment.

Mr. Trump continues to falsely argue that the election was stolen from him, and in recent months Ms. Powell and Mr. Giuliani have stuck by their claims that the election was rife with fraud. A lawyer for Mr. Giuliani said in a court filing last month that at least some of his claims of election fraud were “substantially true.”

And as recently as three weeks ago, Ms. Powell told a reporter for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation that the 2020 election was “essentially a bloodless coup where they took over the presidency of the United States without a single shot being fired.”

It remains unclear how widely the memo was circulated among Trump campaign staff members. According to the court documents, Mr. Giuliani said in a deposition that he had not seen the memo before he gave his presentation in Washington, and he questioned the motives of those who had prepared it.

They wanted Trump to lose because they could raise more money,” Mr. Giuliani was quoted as saying in the deposition.

But at the time that the internal report was prepared, Mr. Giuliani and Ms. Powell were both “active supervisors,” as he put it in his deposition, in the Trump campaign’s broader plan to challenge the election results — an effort that eventually included more than 60 failed lawsuits filed across the country. While Ms. Powell soon went her own way in claiming that Dominion had conspired to steal the election, Mr. Giuliani continued working closely with Mr. Trump and his campaign, ultimately changing strategies and seeking to persuade state legislatures to overturn the popular vote.

The motion notes that “the lines were blurred” as to whom Ms. Powell was working for at the time: herself, her nonprofit organization or the Trump campaign. Almost immediately after she promoted the conspiracy theory about Dominion at the news conference in November, Mr. Trump sought to distance himself from her. But by December, as Mr. Trump’s legal options narrowed, the former president considered bringing her back into the fold and discussed whether to appoint her as a special counsel overseeing an investigation of voter fraud.

The release of the documents was only the latest legal trouble for Mr. Giuliani and Ms. Powell, both of whom have been sued directly by Dominion for defamation. Dominion has also brought a defamation suit against Mike Lindell, the chief executive of MyPillow, for amplifying false election claims. Last month, a federal judge in Washington ruled that the cases could continue moving toward trial.

About the same time, a federal judge in Detroit ordered penalties to be levied against Ms. Powell and eight other pro-Trump lawyers — Mr. Giuliani was not among them — who filed a lawsuit that sought to overturn the election results in Michigan using the false claims about Dominion.

This case was never about fraud,” the judge, Linda V. Parker, wrote in her decision. “It was about undermining the people’s faith in our democracy and debasing the judicial process to do so.”

In June, a New York court suspended Mr. Giuliani’s law license, ruling that he had made “demonstrably false and misleading statements” while fighting the results of last year’s election for Mr. Trump.

Even recently, the new court documents say, former Trump campaign officials have continued to cling to the baseless notion that the election was marred by fraud.

When lawyers for Mr. Coomer asked Sean Dollman, a representative of the Trump campaign, in a deposition if the campaign still believed that the election was fraudulent, he answered, “Yes, sir.”

The lawyers then asked, “What is that opinion based on?

According to the court documents, Mr. Dollman gave a less than certain answer.

We have no underlying definite facts that it wasn’t,” he said.

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Your own attorney general who defended you and you praised lavishly says he couldn’t find evidence of election fraud.

Who does he think he is to call the Supreme Court incompetent and weak?  Especially given that 6 of the 9 were appointed by Republicans and 3 appointed by Trump himself.

In Wisconsin, a Trump appointee demolished Trump’s claims, upholding another Trump appointee’s claims.

No one has lost more, so quickly, than Trump.

Sidney Powell’s claims to have a secret “intelligence source” whose affidavit exactly mathes a Trump podcaster, who served less than a year in the Navy two decadess agaon and claims to have 8 degrees, including a Ph.D and a MBA, and M.D.   The North Dakota attorney general is accusing her of running a fake charity and spending the money on McDonalds and QVC.

Jenna Ellis gives an update on Team Trump’s legal fight against election corruption

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Jenna Ellis gives an update on Team Trump’s legal fight against election corruption (OANN)

for more we go go live to a key member of the president’s legal team jenna ellis thank you for joining us what’s the latest with the trump campaign and thank you so much and the trump campaign and in particular in pennsylvania where more than 20 pennsylvania state representatives recently backed calls disputing the state’s election results can you give us the latest here yeah so we’re very excited that the pennsylvania legislature led by doug mostriano and others there are almost 30 legislators now that are co-signers of this resolution that will use their article 2 section 1.2 authority to make sure that they don’t go along with an irredeemably corrupted election and so this is exactly why our founders put that provision in article 2 and to follow up on what jack was just reporting it’s really important to note that there are multiple vehicles to make sure that either the supreme court directs the state legislature to fulfill their duty or the or the state legislatures can do that themselves and that’s why it’s so incredibly important that the pennsylvania legislature allowed us that hearing last week and now they are moving forward with this resolution that they are going to not certify those election results and they are going to make sure to name their delegates uh according to the constitutional process to make sure that none of their constituents in pennsylvania are disenfranchised through a corrupt election we’re hopeful that as pennsylvania leads the way then other states including arizona michigan nevada others in georgia will also recognize how corrupt this election was and also take back their delegates to make sure that we the people genuinely get to select and prefer our president and we’re confident that when every legal vote is counted of course donald trump won and this is the constitutional process to remedy that corrupted election right certainly right certainly and earlier this week that it’s on to the supreme court would you still say you’re working toward a path to victory absolutely and again there are multiple vehicles and ways to get to the supreme court that may be through the third circuit that may be through other means and certainly the the emphasis on the state legislatures is incredibly important because they are the entity that is vested with constitutional authority to make sure that the delegates who actually go to the electoral college and that’s the method by which we choose our american president that they do that by a means that is not corrupted and they make sure as the direct representatives for their state and for their people that they do that in a method that’s according to the constitution and don’t just certify a corrupt election result right and speaking of integrity switching to arizona i understand your team has set up a public hearing on election integrity in phoenix for monday can you tell us a little bit more about that and what you were seeking to accomplish yes so this is a few days behind pennsylvania but basically we expect to mirror very similarly what we accomplished in pennsylvania last week by putting forth witnesses and testimony and expert testimony in arizona about what happened to their election and why this is irredeemably compromised in arizona as well and we’re hopeful that after that hearing arizona will also mirror pennsylvania by taking back their delegates and making sure that they don’t certify a corrupt process so it’s really encouraging i think that as president trump has continued to back the election integrity process to make sure that as the president of the united states he protects and preserves our constitutional republic that state legislators are taking notice and they’re uh they’re looking at all of the evidence and the witnesses that we’re bringing forth we’ve really been denied an evidence you’re hearing anywhere in the court process that’s really unfortunate that should never happen in the judicial branch and so we’re taking this directly to legislators who want to hear this who want to hear from witnesses see our evidence and so we’re very excited to put that forward on monday in arizona and the president has been speaking out about this he tweeted just this morning thinking quotes all the brave men and women in state houses who are defending our great constitution could you tell us how the president is holding up throughout this process yeah so i speak with him along with the mayor multiple times a day and you know he is really invested in making sure that not just the outcome of this election is safe and secure and is not corrupted but he understands that this is about the future of america and protecting and preserving our constitutional republic and our process to make sure that we don’t have corrupt elections and so he is committed to doing that on behalf of the american people he’s always been the president of america first to make sure that the constitution is protected and preserved and so he is 100 behind this and i am so proud of this president that president trump is completely behind protecting election integrity and making sure that the people and these corrupt election officials from governors to secretaries of state all the way down to these local election officials that they don’t get away with this and that they are uh that they are put under the spotlight to to be on notice that uh the republicans and president trump led by president trump are not going to allow this because this will impact the future of our country and we have to preserve and protect free and fair elections yeah the president the president has certainly made it clear he is behind a free and fair election now before i let you go is there anything else that you would like to add yeah thank you so much for that that question and i think that there’s just so much misinformation between all of the mainstream media outlets i’m really grateful to oan for actually giving me the opportunity to come on and explain what’s going on explain the constitutional process explain why these state legislators are actually fulfilling their constitutional duty so i would just tell the american people don’t listen uh to the mainstream media don’t listen to these pundits don’t listen to the twitterratty who are out there trying to just pretend that uh you know this is all over they’re giving misinformation or they’re giving you bad advice on the constitution make sure that you pay attention to what team trump is putting out to what the president is saying and make sure that you’re following up on that because there’s so much misinformation out there we have a really great opportunity right now to protect and preserve our u.s constitution and again we’re so grateful to these state legislators for stepping up and understanding their constitutional responsibility all right jenna ellis is a key member of the president’s legal team thank you so much for your time