“You we’re hiding in the bushes” at what point was he hiding in the bushes lol!He wanted to arrest him so bad “when you’re going to jail it is gonna be real funny”“What’s crazy is he knows he’s wrong and you know he’s wrong and you’re still going on”. Yep. The thin blue line.I wish we could see them driving away. The UNCG code of conduct is online. It took me 1 minute to search for identification. Nowhere does it say you have to produce ID except in a hearing.
>> I agree when the cop started saying keep your hands out your pockets off camera who knows what would of happened. He was walking backwards to his car..lol ..WTF what a !!COWARDThe crazy thing about some of these cops is they have gotten away with things like this in the past. If it wasnt on camera he would have been arrested and the story would have been different. you see how he stated you were in the bushes, what “THESE” people do at times. Not all, not all, but a lot of them. It’s in them
>> Now that Officer did violate that students 4th Amendment Rights. The Sgt. Knew her Officer was wrong…and she still tried to cover for him. Comply…make it home alive… then contact an attorney. That’s the smartest approach.At the school I attended COC did indeed list showing your student I.D. to security and cops. Nevertheless, there’s a lot of people walking back and forth, so how is he unusual or suspicious? Besides, why sets up a camera on a main road if you intends to commit a crime?
Springdale Arkansas Police Department
If that cop is hard of hearing, how does he pass the physical requirements to be a cop.
I called BS the second he started with his “I’m hard of hearing”
It’s funny how he was able to hear everything else, thereafter.
Never! EVER trust police.
These Cops are ridiculous. I’m going to trespass you but I don’t know why! 🤦🏿I feel sorry for the first officer, some higher up has thrown him into that situation. Shame on on the Officer or attorney who did that to him.You can not come to a person’s home without a warrant and charge someone for a crime that occurred elsewhere without any type of proof or investigation. Especially trespassing someone from a building that they are not currently located.CANNOT TRESPASS A CITIZEN FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY IF THERE IS NO CRIME.Throwing the YOU ARE BEING DETAINED should cost the IGNORANT OFFICER’S AGENCY MONEY. THAT IS DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW, A FEDERAL OFFENSE. We need to flood the court system with as many as these rights violations as possible. It’s not until it starts to cost money that things can change. The media should be covering this EXTENSIVELY“just following orders”. Crazy. Not a care or thought to want to see if the trespass is legal. No investigations. Just doing what their told no matter what. But the problems here obviously extend far beyond the department. I really hope this guy has a good lawyer and considers taking the whole situation to the media.I would have liked him to say: “I want to criminally trespass everyone working at city hall from my property. I’m not telling you why, if they have been here, or when. I just want you go to their houses, knock their doors, and ask them for ID and to sign some paper. It is not harassment.”Perfect example of cops attitude today, they do whatever their political masters tell them to do. They absolutely earn the reputation they have!I’m currently a LEO. I can assure everyone, you need a reason to trespass someone from a public area. This individual should’ve and could’ve closed the door on these LEOs. Secondly how are they going to trespass someone they haven’t identified? The LEO should’ve used common sense on this one.How the hell can an employee at City Hall threaten to arrest you for trespassing simply by going to City Hall? City Hall is a public building, and every citizen has a right to go there. I would only make an exception if this person had gone to City Hall and physically attacked somebody. To call this an overreach of bureaucratic Authority is a gross understatement.The bits this guy was saying about “Getting Fired for refusing to dump euthanized animals at the city dump”, sounds like something that needs to be investigated. City Hall sending Law Enforcement to this mans house, with no knowledge of why he is being CRIMINALLY TRESPASSED, sure looks like some Illegal Corruption at City Hall. We may have to look into this one.Sgt said “It’s not our job to decide what you have or have not done” and he couldn’t be more wrong. It is his duty to figure out exactly what went down in order to issue a criminal trespass warning from a public place. Simply because someone at city hall asked him to be trespassed is not enough, there needs have been a crime committed or an ordinance violated. These cops are confusing a trespass from private property as opposed to public property.Cop #1 shows the caliber of cop that every department seems to staff: follow orders without question and regardless of legality of the order. It is truly sad that pretty much EVERY cop in the country thinks that the laws for trespassing are the same for PUBLIC places as they are for PRIVATE places. (OR they are willing to LIE about what the law says… which amounts to the same thing.)<<City Hall sending Law Enforcement to this mans house, with no knowledge of why he is being CRIMINALLY TRESPASSED, sure looks like some Illegal Corruption at City Hall.>>@Aaron J I get what you’re saying but I also get what OP was saying, I think. I believe it all hinges on the legality of the trespass being 1) issued at all since it was for a public space & 2) issued as it was long after his appearance at the City Hall. As for the 1st point, it’s my understanding that a citizen may NOT be trespassed from any public space unless the person has committed a crime on said public grounds. As to the 2nd point, meh, seems sorta sketchy to me.I mean if a person’s behavior was so bad as to be criminal I would’ve thought the police would’ve intervened then & there NOT wait days or weeks. As for the notion of corruption or other unfunny funny business. Animals euthanized at a city or county run facility must be disposed of by that entity. AND that disposal must meet certain Health Dept guidelines. Exactly what those are I do not know, mostly b/c I don’t know the location of the video & of the local govt. AND I have no idea exactly how the dump site was disposing of the bodies. Based on what I heard the guy say the “how” of the disposal was the sticking point for him. Sounds like the “how” might not be meeting Health Dept codes &/or standards. Maybe there was an issue of disrespect. At any rate sounds like he may have brought that up at the meeting & if they’re disposing of dead animals in an unhealthy manner in order to cut costs, well that’s the very last thing they would want spoken aloud in an open meeting. That makes sense about shutting him up but it also unfortunately looks like they’re trying to hide or cover over some shady shizzle. Just my 2 cents. Blessings
How can cops come to your house, and inform you that you’re trespassed from City Hall, when the cops can’t tell him why he is trespassed. Yet expect him to hand over his identification details and then sign a form without telling what he has done wrong. This is why I’m an advocate for no local Police Department’s. State Police Force only covering the whole State. No locally employed police means that no local entity owns or controls you.This is a huge violation of his 1A rights. If he is being trespassed to keep him from going to a city council meeting, that is denying him the right to seek redress of grievances. Hope he sues the city.Common intimidation tactic local governments use against people that oppose their views and show up to public meetings to speak out.100% of the time citizens tell cops they are harassing them they respond with: ‘I’m not harassing you’. Every. Single. Time.10:38 “It’s not our job to know why” — Yes it is, because if you don’t know why you can’t determine whether the orders you’re following are lawful or not, and to follow unlawful orders is unlawful. “I was just following orders” is not a valid defence.What’s appalling is the fact they went to his house, this means they know who he is, why would you ask for DOB? 🤨Cop “I don’t know what’s this is about.” Then leave. Get the information and warrant. Otherwise, bye.It’s funny how it seems like every cop says ok 20 times when the auditors break the law down for them but they still don’t understand or won’t understandSounds like a city council member didn’t like what this guy said at the last meeting. He should just take the trespass and file a 1st Amendment claim against the city.When did Serve & Protect turn into Arrest & Collect, Harass & Penalize, Enslave & Abuse, Punish & Oppress, and Comply or DIE?The cop keeps saying “that’s not how a trespass warning works” even though the cop has no idea that you cannot trespass someone from public property unless they’ve committed a crime, and he’s not even AT city hall.“It is not our job to know why we do what we do. It is our job to follow orders blindly, like the good little Jackboots we are…”“I’m just following orders,” is not an excuse for a government SERVANT to violate the rights of an American. “Citizens are first.” Cop responds with, “That’s your opinion.” What a clown.Sgt. “It’s not our job to know why” Pretty much explains everything these days lolA trespass from a city hall, so that means you MUST have broken some law, MUST have done something illegal, otherwise that trespass is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. YOU CANNOT TRESPASS A CITIZEN FROM PUBLIC UNLESS THERE WAS A CRIME COMMITTED !!! And then the supervisor says he didn’t do anything wrong, therefore he cannot be trespassed, this is about as ignorant and stupid as it gets. Everyone involved in trying to get him trespassed should be held personally accountable, because they should know better, they should pay up personally, i do not care if they have to get a loan or their savings are touched or whatever the fuck they need to do to pay up, this is abuse of power and pure ignorance, they should know better, they signed a contract to uphold the law, they were not given that training, nor did they take it upon themselves to obtain that knowledge, this is a failing on their part. They should get knowledgeable or not sign that contract. Their training is laughably sub par. Their training should be counted in years, not weeks, they don’t even touch on the most basic and important laws. In my country we count police training in years, and that is in a country where the police has to do less, they have less functions, they have less crime, they have fewer weapons on the streets, that shows how shit their training is. This and the system in general being crap all over is why i consider the US to be nothing more than a reasonably well put together banana republic.
- This cop seems like if he was to go back and actually learn the law, he will be a good officer.
- I actually thought he was a nice guy. I think he will be a good officer.
- I agree. He’s clearly trying. It’s really unfortunate that he hasn’t recieved proper training. I hope he decides on his own to learn and doesn’t wait on his department.
- Even though he doesn’t know the law or his job from his ass or a hole in the ground, he was actually pretty humble, probably the most humble cop I’ve ever seen!
- I agree. This cop wasn’t a bad guy. He was a victim of our utterly incompetent police training system.
- I’m glad he was educated and I hope he follows what he learned on this interaction, as well as stopping any fellow officer from trying to do the same. That being said it’s sad that the people have to teach these officers the law.
- I wouldn’t say he got “owned” in this case. He got “educated”. He was very cordial and even admitted he may not have known but within his knowledge he was doing what was taught. Far better than other engagements I see!
- The cop was honest and admitted he was in the wrong and even apologized. I hope he continues to learn and grow we need more like him
- “I do not think you have committed a crime.” At this point the officer needs to walk away from this citizen.
- I’m glad the officer realized his mistake. He was humble and apologized and learned something for future cases!
- Not a bad cop lol 😂 right he tried to violate him & his children by enforcing a law that doesn’t exist that’s a crime in it’s self ………..
- @asifig2F he didn’t say he wasn’t a bad cop. He’s clearly pretty clueless (as was the suspect tbh), but he seems like a decent guy. He was genuinely ignorant, but he tried to actually explain himself and didn’t seem to be motivated by ego. I think he’d be a good officer with proper training.
- @asifig2F Lets be real, the type of police we see on this channel, he isn’t one of them. this is one of the better police we have seen, polite, trying to be through and courteous with genuine reasons for asking the questions.
- @asifig2F That cop is a great person. He even admitted and apolgized for the inconvience caused by him. He was trying to do his job just like any hard working man.
- @asifig2F its a systematic problem. anyone can be blind to stuff like that when they are not taught by the system you cant always expect people to know better
- “Where did you get your degree? Are you an attorney?” Cops seriously need to stop asking this question, unless they obtained law degrees on the side.
- It’s because its too hard for most police to understand. Every video when someone refers to the constitution they ask if the citizen is a lawyer. This is very revealing. Its says that the bill of rights is so complicated to the average police officer they think you need to go to college for 7 years to understand just 10 simple ideas that are less than 500 words combined.
- Every time a cop asks where you got your law degree, that should be grounds for immediate firing. “Uh oh, another citizen far more versed in the law than me, I better try and make him feel stupid.” This should be every cops ticket to the unemployment line.
- This is probably one of the best cops I’ve seen in one of these videos. I honestly believe he thought he was in the right, and he was man enough to admit it when he found out he was wrong. I’ve seen lots where the supervisor comes to tell the person they are free to go and tries to save face for the cop in the wrong, who doesn’t show his face again.
- “You do not have to be committing a crime to be detained”, that is not what the 4th Amendment says. Not answering questions is the right guaranteed by the the 5th Amendment.
- Keep in mind. This officer has the power to ruin your life. And he has absolutely no idea how to do his job. Give me a break. This guy is a walking liability for the department and the city.
- I feel he was honest and likely appreciative that you were there on this. Don’t know how long he’s been out of the academy, but I’m glad he’s not head strong like many. He was very professional even though uninformed. Hopefully things go well for him in his LE career.
- Honestly, the officer kept his cool and remained fairly respectful throughout, his downfall here is his complete lack of training. I feel like he could still be an effective officer with some better training. Just my 2¢ worth.
- The difference between this cop and others I’ve seen is although this one waa wrong he didn’t become aggressive or start trying to escalate the situation even though he was clearly finding the situation difficult. He also learned during the situation he was wrong and apologised. He seems like a good guy let down by poor training.
- I agree with your statement about him being a good officer. But how does the academy pass these officers thru without them knowing the basics of the law. I believe the academy teaches them to get that ID no matter what
- This guy should turn out to be a good officer once he learns the law. He seems to want to be fair and that is a good start. I believe he is a good man.
- When the cop need to explain what he learned in training about the law, you know he’s done. This is a good one. =)
It’s sad that we as Civilians have to be calm and professional when dealing with so called trained PEACE officers..
Imagine a world where the citizens are the ones who have to deescalate a situation instead of the “trained professionals”.
It looks like Officer Torres has taken WAY too much of his own advice to stop thinking.
Why I think being an Intj in Africa is a lot harder as compared to being an intj in other parts of the world.
As everyone knows, leftists hate America’s military. Recently, a prominent left-wing media figure attacked Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, declaring, “He’s not just a pig, he’s stupid.”
Oh, wait. That was no leftist, that was Fox News’s Tucker Carlson. What set Carlson off was testimony in which Milley told a congressional hearing that he considered it important “for those of us in uniform to be open-minded and widely read.”
The problem is obvious. Closed-mindedness and ignorance have become core conservative values, and those who reject these values are the enemy, no matter what they may have done to serve the country.
The Milley hearing was part of the orchestrated furor over “critical race theory,” which has dominated right-wing media for the past few months, getting close to 2,000 mentions on Fox so far this year. One often sees assertions that those attacking critical race theory have no idea what it’s about, but I disagree; they understand that it has something to do with assertions that America has a history of racism and of policies that explicitly or implicitly widened racial disparities.
And such assertions are unmistakably true. The Tulsa race massacre really happened, and it was only one of many such incidents. The 1938 underwriting manual for the Federal Housing Administration really did declare that “incompatible racial groups should not be permitted to live in the same communities.”
We can argue about the relevance of this history to current policy, but who would argue against acknowledging simple facts?
The modern right, that’s who. The current obsession with critical race theory is a cynical attempt to change the subject away from the Biden administration’s highly popular policy initiatives, while pandering to the white rage that Republicans deny exists. But it’s only one of multiple subjects on which willful ignorance has become a litmus test for anyone hoping to succeed in Republican politics.
Thus, to be a Republican in good standing one must deny the reality of man-made climate change, or at least oppose any meaningful action to limit greenhouse gas emissions. One must reject or at least express skepticism about the theory of evolution. And don’t even get me started on things like the efficacy of tax cuts.
What underlies this cross-disciplinary commitment to ignorance? On each subject, refusing to acknowledge reality serves special interests. Climate denial caters to the fossil fuel industry; evolution denial caters to religious fundamentalists; tax-cut mysticism caters to billionaire donors.
But there’s also, I’d argue, a spillover effect: Accepting evidence and logic is a sort of universal value, and you can’t take it away in one area of inquiry without degrading it across the board. That is, you can’t declare that honesty about America’s racial history is unacceptable and expect to maintain intellectual standards everywhere else. In the modern right-wing universe of ideas, everything is political; there are no safe subjects.
This politicization of everything inevitably creates huge tension between conservatives and institutions that try to respect reality.
There have been many studies documenting the strong Democratic lean of college professors, which is often treated as prima facie evidence of political bias in hiring. A new law in Florida requires that each state university conduct an annual survey “which considers the extent to which competing ideas and perspectives are presented,” which doesn’t specifically mandate the hiring of more Republicans but clearly gestures in that direction.
An obvious counterargument to claims of biased hiring is self-selection: How many conservatives choose to pursue careers in, say, sociology? Is hiring bias the reason police officers seem to have disproportionately supported Donald Trump in the 2016 election, or is this simply a reflection of the kind of people who choose careers in law enforcement?
But beyond that, the modern G.O.P. is no home for people who believe in objectivity. One striking feature of surveys of academic partisanship is the overwhelming Democratic lean in hard sciences like biology and chemistry; but is that really hard to understand when Republicans reject science on so many fronts?
One recent study marvels that even finance departments are mainly Democratic. Indeed, you might expect finance professors, some of whom do lucrative consulting for Wall Street, to be pretty conservative. But even they are repelled by a party committed to zombie economics.
Which brings me back to General Milley. The U.S. military has traditionally leaned Republican, but the modern officer corps is highly educated, open-minded and, dare I say it, even a bit intellectual — because those are attributes that help win wars.
Unfortunately, they are also attributes the modern G.O.P. finds intolerable.
So something like the attack on Milley was inevitable. Right-wingers have gone all in on ignorance, so they were bound to come into conflict with every institution — including the U.S. military — that is trying to cultivate knowledge.