15:33viewers and listeners you know onelesson I learned when I was the editorof The Jerusalem Post is that the moststereotyped people in the world and I bystereotype people I don’t mean Jews orPalestinians I mean this kind of Jew orthat kind of Palestinian they’re alwaysgoing to font they’re always going tosurprise you if you actually practicejournalism you willgo and meet settlers who are also likehippie stoners and you know you think ohthe settlers they’re all theseright-wing fanatics but there’s always aflip side you will meet Palestiniansincluding Palestinians affiliated withradical organizations that also havetheir surprises and journalism at itsbest always has to make large allowancesfor the capacity to be surprised by thepeople that you are otherwise most eagerto stereotype I think where we go wrongin big ways is when we fall prey tothose stereotypes I mean why was forinstance the the story about UVA therape hoax at UVA why was that so readilybelieved because so many prejudices thatwe had or at least segments of the mediahad about white entitled frat kids atUVA behaving in certain ways all of themseem to be confirmed by that by thatnarrative so people jumped on and saidwell this has got to be right becausethis is the classic the classic UVA fratboy and this is how you might expectthey would behave and of course thisturned out to be one of the big egg onyour faces story that not only neverminddamaged the journalists in question orRolling Stone magazine I think damagedthe profession as a whole and it also bythe way damaged victims of rape becausethey would always have to live under theburden well you never know because therewas that there was that UVA story and Ithink this is this is true not simply asjournalists but as human beings youalways have to look at someone and sayI’m expecting this I have to I have tothere has to be some large allowance inmy mind that they will not be the peoplewho will conform to the stereotype thatI had about them and I might add goingto the times destroyed a great manystereotypes I had harbored when I was atThe Wall Street Journal good about thekind of people are at the times good youknow and to add to what Brett’s saying Imean some of the most stereotyped someof the most stereotyped people inAmerica by journalists are Trump votersandsome of the stereotypes hold true butsome Donen I mean I remember him it’sone of the reasons why it’s important toget out there I remember going to anearly Trump rally in South Carolina justbefore its primary and spending a coupleof hours there interviewing the voterswho’d come and each of those peopletheir take on reality wasn’t the same asmine it wouldn’t have been the same asBrett Caesar but each of them had aspecific and thought out reason why theyfound Donald Trump attractive and noneof those reasons fit neatly into thestereotype of Trump voters and I think Imean I’ve always been under the underthe position if we want to under if wewant to get beyond Donald Trump we haveto understand in a real way and not asuperficial stereotypical way what madehim so appealing to so many votersbecause we’re not going to reach thosevoters with someone else unless weunderstand that well sorry Brett you mayremember that when you were on BillMaher a year ago you responded to thispoint exactly that there is a kind ofliberal blue state prejudice about aTrump voter and that in fact there’sother ways to see them and understandhim and there’s the very point thatFrank is making I’m gonna get back tothat Innes and later hopefully I want totalk about what you think that the causeof Trump how he became our presidentwe’ll get to that in a moment but I wantto first go back since we talked abouttwo of your columns I want to get to oneof yours that just came out today wasn’tactually a column it was a much moreextended essay and and wanted I think hevery frequently read and because this isthe Y M H a people in this room mightcare about this essay in particular andthis is really about progressiveliberalism and the politics that is notunfamiliar to Frank and its obsessionwith Israel the deemed Immunizationdeluded the legitimacy of Israel and howthat oftentimes this kind of woke nestsprogressiveness also slides intoanti-semitism and why is it that thosepeople who are who feel most strongly
The Super Bowl That Trump’s America Deserves
I’m not really sure why they’re bothering with a Super Bowl this year. Sure, a bunch of people will make a boatload of money, tens of millions of us will reflexively tune in and we’ll find rare common ground over how cheesy the halftime show is. But are we believers anymore? Will we really see the winner as the winner — or just as the charmed survivor of a grossly tarnished process? Be it the New England Patriots or the Los Angeles Rams, the team will have an asterisk after its name. And that asterisk is a big fat sign of the times.
I’m referring, of course, to the miserable officiating that’s arguably the reason the Patriots beat the Kansas City Chiefs and the Rams beat the New Orleans Saints, leading to the matchup in this coming Sunday’s season-finale game. The Rams in particular were blessed by the referees, who failed to note and penalize a glaring case of pass interference in the climactic minutes. I needn’t describe what happened. Footage of it has been replayed as extensively and analyzed as exhaustively as the Zapruder film.
And it has prompted an intensity of protest, a magnitude of soul searching and a depth of cynicism that go well beyond the crime in question. That’s where the feelings about the Super Bowl and the mood of America converge.
We’re still reeling from a presidential election that was colored if not corrupted by unfair advantages, undue meddling and disrespected rules, and here we have a Super Bowl that’s colored if not corrupted by unfair advantages, undue meddling and disrespected rules. Many fans are rejecting its legitimacy — sound familiar? There are conspiracy theories afoot.
Americans are so down on, and distrustful of, major institutions and authorities that we’re primed to declare their fraudulence, and the National Football League and the Super Bowl are on the receiving end of that. They’re not fresh targets, not by any stretch. But this time we’ve lost all sense of perspective.
.. The missed pass-interference call in the clash between the Rams and Saints was certainly egregious, but every football game is a compendium of good and bad breaks; luck is always a factor and often the deciding one. The Saints had home-field advantage, and their fans created enough noise to addle and even paralyze the Rams on offense. The Saints also made errors galore, blowing the possibility of a lead too commanding to be erased by poor officiating. On a recent episode of his podcast, the sports commentator Bill Simmons methodically broke down the game en route to this conclusion: “I really thought the Rams were better.” He added that “if that’s a neutral field, I think the Rams win.”
That the Rams did win, with an assist from somnambulistic referees, has not gone over well in New Orleans. The Louisiana governor wrote a letterof condemnation to N.F.L. Commissioner Roger Goodell. The New Orleans City Council is considering a formal resolution declaring the outcome an “injustice” and demanding that the N.F.L. thoroughly review its rules. One of Louisiana’s senators has called for a congressional hearing on the matter.
Several Saints ticket holders have filed lawsuits against the N.F.L., variously claiming that they have endured mental anguish, lost the enjoyment of life and been defrauded by the league. A movement in New Orleans to boycott the Super Bowl involves the staging of competing events, vows by many bars not to show the game and pledges by many other bars to show, instead, the 2010 Super Bowl, in which the Saints beat the Indianapolis Colts.
When Zeigler was asked by The Washington Examiner about an allegation that the Senate candidate Roy Moore initiated sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl when he was 32, Zeigler cited the biblical couple to say, essentially: No biggie! This is as old as Christianity.
“Take Joseph and Mary,” he explained. “Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.” He made it sound as if Moore were some religiously inclined analogue to those military-history enthusiasts who dress in the uniforms of yesteryear to travel back to the Revolutionary War. Moore was merely re-enacting the New Testament in the name of lust.
It’s worth pointing out that there is something illegal here: A 14-year-old girl is below the age of consent in Alabama, and that was true as well four decades ago, when the incident is alleged to have occurred. It’s also worth pointing out that Jesus supposedly arrived via virgin birth, so Joseph’s interactions with Mary up until that point may have been considerably more G-rated and gallant than in Zeigler’s version.
It’s further worth pointing out that millenniums ago, girls were treated as chattel and sold off as child brides, a practice that no one in his or her right mind would regard as inspirational and cite as an exonerating precedent.
.. If I sound bitter, I am, because they have long been among the principal purveyors of hatred for gay people like me. They’re a big reason that so many of us grew up terrified that we’d be ostracized, wondering if there was something twisted in us and confronted with laws that treated us as second-class citizens. We were supposedly in moral error, and thus deserved a lesser lot.
.. In 2002 he called sexual relations between people of the same gender “an act so heinous that it defies one’s ability to describe it.”
.. Although Christianity as I understand it doesn’t smile on the florid lying, womanizing, hypersexual vocabulary and assorted cruelties that have been prominent threads in Donald Trump’s life, Moore and many other evangelical Christians spared Trump their censure. I understand their motivation to vote for him: abortion. But that didn’t compel them to remain so mum about his misdeeds or summon the adoration that some of them did. (I’m looking at you, Jerry Falwell Jr.)
Trump resigned the presidency already — if we regard the job as one of moral stewardship, if we assume that an iota of civic concern must joust with self-regard, if we expect a president’s interest in legislation to rise above vacuous theatrics, if we consider a certain baseline of diplomatic etiquette to be part of the equation.
.. He abdicated his responsibilities so thoroughly and recklessly that it amounted to a letter of resignation. Then he whored for his Virginia winery on the way out the door.
.. Trump knew full well what he should have done, because he’d done it — grudgingly and badly — only a day earlier. But it left him feeling countermanded, corrected, submissive and weak, and those emotions just won’t do for an ego as needy and skin as thin as his.
.. On Tuesday he “relinquished what presidents from Roosevelt to Reagan have regarded as a cardinal duty of their job: set a moral course to unify the nation,” wrote The Times’ Mark Landler
.. Did he place the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, Virginia, on the same “moral plane” as those who showed up to push back at them?
“I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane,” Trump answered.
.. he never in fact wanted or set out to be president, not as the position is conventionally or correctly defined.
.. He revealed that repeatedly as he rejected the traditional rules and usual etiquette, refusing to release his tax returns, bragging about his penis size, feuding with the Muslim father of a fallen American soldier and electing puerility over poetry at nearly every meaningful moment.
.. All that time on Twitter wasn’t principally about a direct connection to voters. It was a way to stare at an odometer of approval and monitor, in real time, how broadly his sentiments were being liked and shared.
.. Applause. Greater brand exposure. A new layer of perks atop an existence already lavish with them. Utter saturation of Americans’ consciousness. These were his foremost goals. Governing wasn’t
.. He made clear that conflicts of interest didn’t trouble him, drawing constant attention to Trump properties
.. members of Congress who met with Trump about the repeal-and-replace of Obamacare were aghast at his ignorance of the legislation and of the legislative process itself.
.. A president is supposed to safeguard the most sacred American institutions, repairing them if need be. Trump doesn’t respect them. He has sought to discredit and disempower the judiciary, the free press, the FBI, the Congressional Budget Office. He even managed to inject politics into, and pollute, the Boy Scouts. This is the course of a tyrant.
.. I kept coming across variations on the verdict that he had “failed to lead,” and that phraseology is off. “Fail” and “failure” imply that there was an effort, albeit unsuccessful.