City Council tried to get Police try to Trespass from Public Property without giving a Reason

 

These Cops are ridiculous. I’m going to trespass you but I don’t know why! 🤦🏿
I feel sorry for the first officer, some higher up has thrown him into that situation. Shame on on the Officer or attorney who did that to him.
You can not come to a person’s home without a warrant and charge someone for a crime that occurred elsewhere without any type of proof or investigation. Especially trespassing someone from a building that they are not currently located.
CANNOT TRESPASS A CITIZEN FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY IF THERE IS NO CRIME.
Throwing the YOU ARE BEING DETAINED should cost the IGNORANT OFFICER’S AGENCY MONEY. THAT IS DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW, A FEDERAL OFFENSE. We need to flood the court system with as many as these rights violations as possible. It’s not until it starts to cost money that things can change. The media should be covering this EXTENSIVELY
“just following orders”. Crazy. Not a care or thought to want to see if the trespass is legal. No investigations. Just doing what their told no matter what. But the problems here obviously extend far beyond the department. I really hope this guy has a good lawyer and considers taking the whole situation to the media.
I would have liked him to say: I want to criminally trespass everyone working at city hall from my property. I’m not telling you why, if they have been here, or when. I just want you go to their houses, knock their doors, and ask them for ID and to sign some paper. It is not harassment.”
Perfect example of cops attitude today, they do whatever their political masters tell them to do. They absolutely earn the reputation they have!
I’m currently a LEO. I can assure everyone, you need a reason to trespass someone from a public area. This individual should’ve and could’ve closed the door on these LEOs. Secondly how are they going to trespass someone they haven’t identified? The LEO should’ve used common sense on this one.
How the hell can an employee at City Hall threaten to arrest you for trespassing simply by going to City Hall? City Hall is a public building, and every citizen has a right to go there. I would only make an exception if this person had gone to City Hall and physically attacked somebody. To call this an overreach of bureaucratic Authority is a gross understatement.
The bits this guy was saying about “Getting Fired for refusing to dump euthanized animals at the city dump”, sounds like something that needs to be investigated. City Hall sending Law Enforcement to this mans house, with no knowledge of why he is being CRIMINALLY TRESPASSED, sure looks like some Illegal Corruption at City Hall. We may have to look into this one.
Sgt said “It’s not our job to decide what you have or have not done” and he couldn’t be more wrong. It is his duty to figure out exactly what went down in order to issue a criminal trespass warning from a public place. Simply because someone at city hall asked him to be trespassed is not enough, there needs have been a crime committed or an ordinance violated. These cops are confusing a trespass from private property as opposed to public property.
Cop #1 shows the caliber of cop that every department seems to staff: follow orders without question and regardless of legality of the order. It is truly sad that pretty much EVERY cop in the country thinks that the laws for trespassing are the same for PUBLIC places as they are for PRIVATE places. (OR they are willing to LIE about what the law says… which amounts to the same thing.)
<<City Hall sending Law Enforcement to this mans house, with no knowledge of why he is being CRIMINALLY TRESPASSED, sure looks like some Illegal Corruption at City Hall.>>
 @Aaron J  I get what you’re saying but I also get what OP was saying, I think. I believe it all hinges on the legality of the trespass being 1) issued at all since it was for a public space & 2) issued as it was long after his appearance at the City Hall. As for the 1st point, it’s my understanding that a citizen may NOT be trespassed from any public space unless the person has committed a crime on said public grounds. As to the 2nd point, meh, seems sorta sketchy to me.
I mean if a person’s behavior was so bad as to be criminal I would’ve thought the police would’ve intervened then & there NOT wait days or weeks. As for the notion of corruption or other unfunny funny business. Animals euthanized at a city or county run facility must be disposed of by that entity. AND that disposal must meet certain Health Dept guidelines. Exactly what those are I do not know, mostly b/c I don’t know the location of the video & of the local govt. AND I have no idea exactly how the dump site was disposing of the bodies. Based on what I heard the guy say the “how” of the disposal was the sticking point for him. Sounds like the “how” might not be meeting Health Dept codes &/or standards. Maybe there was an issue of disrespect. At any rate sounds like he may have brought that up at the meeting & if they’re disposing of dead animals in an unhealthy manner in order to cut costs, well that’s the very last thing they would want spoken aloud in an open meeting. That makes sense about shutting him up but it also unfortunately looks like they’re trying to hide or cover over some shady shizzle. Just my 2 cents. Blessings

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Good on him, You do not have to give your information for a trespass waning, don’t let them pull that nonsense on you. The individual being trespassed has no legal duty to provide the trespassing entity with their personal information, the onus is on them to remember who you are you do not have to assist them with it. There is no “Trespass system”, they just want your info to run you for warrants and start a CAD entry on you, don’t fall for it. Trespass is not a crime, trespass after warning is the crime. When a cop pulls that “We need your information to put you in the trespass system!” they are lying to you, people fall for it all the damn time, it drives me bonkers.
How can cops come to your house, and inform you that you’re trespassed from City Hall, when the cops can’t tell him why he is trespassed. Yet expect him to hand over his identification details and then sign a form without telling what he has done wrong.  This is why I’m an advocate for no local Police Department’s. State Police Force only covering the whole State.  No locally employed police means that no local entity owns or controls you.
Basically the argument of the cops in the video is: “We don’t know if you did anything illegal, and we don’t know why you’re being trespassed, but some unnamed person told us to trespass you, so we are here to do that, even though we don’t have a court order.” Yeah. Their argument will TOTALLY hold up in court. 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
This is a huge violation of his 1A rights. If he is being trespassed to keep him from going to a city council meeting, that is denying him the right to seek redress of grievances. Hope he sues the city.
Common intimidation tactic local governments use against people that oppose their views and show up to public meetings to speak out.
100% of the time citizens tell cops they are harassing them they respond with: ‘I’m not harassing you’. Every. Single. Time.
10:38 “It’s not our job to know why” — Yes it is, because if you don’t know why you can’t determine whether the orders you’re following are lawful or not, and to follow unlawful orders is unlawful. “I was just following orders” is not a valid defence.
What’s appalling is the fact they went to his house, this means they know who he is, why would you ask for DOB? 🤨
Cop “I don’t know what’s this is about.” Then leave. Get the information and warrant. Otherwise, bye.
It’s funny how it seems like every cop says ok 20 times when the auditors break the law down for them but they still don’t understand or won’t understand
Sounds like a city council member didn’t like what this guy said at the last meeting. He should just take the trespass and file a 1st Amendment claim against the city.
When did Serve & Protect turn into Arrest & Collect, Harass & Penalize, Enslave  & Abuse, Punish & Oppress, and Comply or DIE?
The cop keeps saying “that’s not how a trespass warning works” even though the cop has no idea that you cannot trespass someone from public property unless they’ve committed a crime, and he’s not even AT city hall.
I’ve watched many 100’s of 1st, 4th, and 5th amendment audit videos. Every cop, no matter where in the country, says “okay” over and over, as their 1st knee jerk response…and then proceed to trample all over the rights that they are supposed to protect. This tactic and response MUST be part of their training…to say “okay”, maybe in an attempt to SEEM reasonable, as they look for an opportunity to become unreasonable. Disgusting.
“It is not our job to know why we do what we do. It is our job to follow orders blindly, like the good little Jackboots we are…”
“I’m just following orders,” is not an excuse for a government SERVANT to violate the rights of an American. “Citizens are first.” Cop responds with, “That’s your opinion.” What a clown.
Sgt. “It’s not our job to know why” Pretty much explains everything these days lol
A trespass from a city hall, so that means you MUST have broken some law, MUST have done something illegal, otherwise that trespass is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. YOU CANNOT TRESPASS A CITIZEN FROM PUBLIC UNLESS THERE WAS A CRIME COMMITTED !!! And then the supervisor says he didn’t do anything wrong, therefore he cannot be trespassed, this is about as ignorant and stupid as it gets. Everyone involved in trying to get him trespassed should be held personally accountable, because they should know better, they should pay up personally, i do not care if they have to get a loan or their savings are touched or whatever the fuck they need to do to pay up, this is abuse of power and pure ignorance, they should know better, they signed a contract to uphold the law, they were not given that training, nor did they take it upon themselves to obtain that knowledge, this is a failing on their part. They should get knowledgeable or not sign that contract. Their training is laughably sub par. Their training should be counted in years, not weeks, they don’t even touch on the most basic and important laws. In my country we count police training in years, and that is in a country where the police has to do less, they have less functions, they have less crime, they have fewer weapons on the streets, that shows how shit their training is. This and the system in general being crap all over is why i consider the US to be nothing more than a reasonably well put together banana republic.

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