Rick Wilson, “Everything Trump Touches Dies”

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there is actually a table in the Truman
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White House where he played poker every
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night and before he went to bed they
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would actually put a cover on the poker
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table to disguise the fact that Truman
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was playing poker because it was bad or
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seeing you know unfortunately I’m I’m
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wondering in in light of this and in
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light of this president um I used to
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sort of respect the office of the
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presidency and in in you know even the
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ones that I disagreed with and that you
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know several um now that we have seen
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this guy you know go crazy on Twitter
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and the potential for having colluded
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with the foreign power which ruins me at
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my core was in potential ruins me
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I Corps do you ever see the sanctity of
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office ever returning in the future yeah
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I’m gonna actually shock you with
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something because either the most
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effective theme that was tested during
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George Bush’s W Bush his run for the
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White House the most successful themed
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after compassionate conservatism which
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actually really people believed it
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bought it was restoring honor and
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dignity to the White House because Bill
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Clinton ran it like a frat house now I
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think it’s gonna take a long time for
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people to get back to a point where
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probity and dignity look George
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Washington he thought the most important
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characteristic of a president was first
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not to become a king but the second was
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dignity and you got a guy upstairs rage
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tweeting in the Oval Office are in the
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executive bedroom every night you know
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surrounded by a bed full of filet-o-fish
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rappers and rage tweeting all night and
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it’s hard to think of him as as you know
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a dignified person you got a guy with a
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gigantic chin waddle who thinks he’s
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like babe meat and and he just the whole
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effect of Trump is clownish and so that
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makes it harder to believe in the in
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that stature of the presidency so but
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look it’ll come back there will be the
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next person who’s president one hopes
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will recognize that there’s a value to
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be had by a president who shows dignity
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and strength and quiet rectitude
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sometimes as opposed to being a giant
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rectum all the time so thank you hi
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there hi I know that you have said that
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you have friends in the administration
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and that they call you to moan from time
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to time from time to time yesterday was
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a bad day I bet it was do they do they
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seriously think because at some point a
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credible conservative administration
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will come back to this government is
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anyone in the Trump administration short
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of maybe Jim mattis should probably seek
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employment at say a gas station
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somewhere in the Midwest after this
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because this is going to scar them and
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mark them forever right I mean it it is
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one of the predicates of the book and
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it’s proving itself out time and time
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they don’t even get credit for being
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competent no and here’s the thing when
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they call you what I tell them every
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time for advice
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quit walk out the door now and tell the
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truth walk out the door now and say
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what’s going on but moon do you shred it
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we make him take you to court make him
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make him go to discovery and and they
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they a lot of these people that Trump
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brought in let’s put it this way when
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Trump sends us people to work in the
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administration he’s not sending his best
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thank you thank you
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question out yes I wrote it down because
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I can’t remember what I did 20 seconds
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ago so I say this is someone a young
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recently recent college graduate who’s
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unemployed who probably makes Bernie
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Sanders look like a centrist I actually
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asked Noah Rothman this last year at an
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event at my college and I was looking at
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a University of Chicago poll that said
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that a majority I think it’s 60% of
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people aged 18 to 35 don’t see
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capitalism the sort of core of
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conservative conservativism as the thing
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that can solve the most pressing issues
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of our time and what I asked no last
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year and I’d love to hear it from a you
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know rock-ribbed conservative like
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yourself what can you do to steer maybe
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not people like me but maybe people
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flirting with the idea or the left back
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to the ideas one of the things is that
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my party has to get its head out of its
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own backside on crony capitalism because
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what we’ve done for a long time and what
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this tax bill did was take care of a
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specific industry in the legislation now
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I was told when Barack Obama was
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president that picking winners and
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losers was a bad thing the tax bill
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picked 150 some winners on in the hedge
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fund and wall street world and about 60
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guys out there in the economy and they
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got 85% of the benefits of a tax bill
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that is that requires five percent
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economic growth
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4.1% economic growth to sustain itself
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it’s ridiculous we’re picking winners
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and losers by protecting the coal
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industry which but should be dead by now
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so Republicans have not been a good
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example of free-market capitalism in
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Congress for a long time this goes back
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before Trump I’ve been a critic of this
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of my own party of this before Trump
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where we have decided that free-market
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capitalism is capitalism is great except
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if a guy gave us a big enough donation
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to the super PAC then we’re gonna make
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sure that his industry including it
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could be you know like a dead industry
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industrial sector completely that
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Congress says ok we’re gonna keep buying
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buggy whips from the sky because you
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know the buggy whip industry is the
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heart of American commerce capitalism
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works when it’s tried and you know
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socialism often leads to people starving
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and freezing in the dark so you know and
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I know everyone’s you say oh then
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Norwegian Nations ended our and and and
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the scanty nations yes they’re lovely
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but there be few examples of this that
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don’t scale necessarily to macro
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economies like ours but anyway it’s a
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hard road and it’s gonna have to be
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something that requires some some reform
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and self correction side the GOP to get
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back to a free market and free trade
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capitalism system so thanks thank you I
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right yeah BRIC big fan a great look
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plus one all those lot yes
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does the Trump administration have any
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policy successes for the remainder of
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the Trump administration except by
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tearing down Obama you’re a regulation
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well Donald Trump proved in the very
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first weeks of his administration that
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he can’t pass the legislation I mean the
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the house and the Senate had Obamacare
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repeal cocked and locked it was going to
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be smooth they were going to jam it
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through they were gonna day we’re gonna
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as a leadership member said to me pull
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up Pelosi and smash Obamacare repeal
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through and then the giant man-baby came
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in and started and started interrupting
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and started saying things on Twitter and
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then describing the billa’s meme and so
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there’s a reason they’re sending Trump
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bills to sign that are like
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naming bridges and the post office
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Reform Act you know it’s small ball
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stuff because they don’t trust him with
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the big important stuff so they’re gonna
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keep doing policy changes they’re gonna
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keep doing the pen and the phone that
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they hated Obama for and they’re gonna
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keep doing executive orders even though
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conservatives used to scream their heads
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off Barack Obama is acting like a
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dictator because he’s passing you know
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he’s signing these executive orders and
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he’s got a limited portfolio of things
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he can do I predict he’s gonna keep
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trying to keep the coal industry thing
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moving and the steel tariffs moving
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because he believes those are the key to
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the two West Virginia Pennsylvania Ohio
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you know the whole pencil tucky region
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there and all that so thanks excellent
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great book thanks a lot thank you so
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much a question I haven’t heard from
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anybody is one about the Russians the
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Russian money and the oligarchs what do
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you have to say about that and where are
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the Republicans on this there’s a sort
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of let me give this sort of technical
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description of that there’s a lot of it
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he’s been taking it for a long time
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well well beyond 2016 he is deeply
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embedded with a whole bunch of Russian
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mobsters and has been since the 80s when
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they peel this back and there I’ll tell
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you the reason Donald Trump lives in
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absolute mortal terror where it’s like
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strap on the extra diaper when he
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mentions when they mentioned getting his
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taxes because this is a man who knows
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once they start peeling apart the
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relationships with the banks and with
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the Russian lending and the glown
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guarantees from Russians from like the
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Bank of Cyprus to Deutsche Bank and all
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these other things and they’re by the
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way they’re people who are experts on
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this bike well beyond my knowledge Craig
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ungar’s book is great about this but
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we’re gonna learn that this whole I have
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no business with the oceans I don’t know
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any Russians we’re gonna discover that
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that is a complete fabrication and and
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and the behavior of their campaign yeah
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look Paul Manafort is not a guy you hire
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because you’re like I need someone who’s
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really dedicated to clean government
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he’s a guy you hired because he brings
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in a bunch of money from his friends in
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Moscow and the oligarchs have gotten
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used to buying elections in a lot of
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countries and they played a big role in
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this one and I think you’re gonna see
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that come out not only in the
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investigations that peel back Trump’s
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business and financial and tax records
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but also in the mobile investigation
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itself thank you
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who are the Democrats strongest in
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weakest candidates in 2020 that is a
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great question and I’m not gonna answer
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it I’m gonna tell you what they need not
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who it is the Democrats in 2020 I’m
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gonna give you a scale like a
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thermometer scale right up here right up
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here I’m gonna stand up low higher right
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up here be great on TV kick ass on TV be
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engaging smart witty funny take it to
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Trump let’s just kick his ass on TV all
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the time now so that disqualifies about
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40% of all Democratic candidates we’re
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thinking about it and of course Hillary
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Clinton with the broken robot Act could
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never be that charismatic person okay
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second part raise a butt ton of money
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cuz you’re gonna need it because Trump
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is gonna get the same media vacuum he
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got last time so you’re gonna have to
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buy that exposure you’re gonna have to
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get in that fight and buy it it sucks
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it’s horrible but there’s a lot of money
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out there opposed to Trump and that’s
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the next part now let me give you the
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important part about policy the policy
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part voters didn’t vote for a policy
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with Trump they voted for an emotion
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that emotion was rage they loved it they
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loved that whole act so the Democrats
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need somebody that can activate their
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people and who has great I fight on the
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battlefield we’re gonna actually fight
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on so I look at an Elizabeth Warren that
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schoolmarm technocrat yeah you may love
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her but make her secretary of the
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Treasury or something you know
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and I know people like Oh what about
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avenatti maybe the guys got smack the
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guys got he can shit talk like nobody’s
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business and he’s under Trump’s skin so
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far and you may find somebody else that
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can do that there may be some otherwise
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you start lookin beta or work wins in
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Texas is a long shot that guy wins in
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Texas he’s gonna be a rocket in the
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Democratic Party he will be a guy who
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can
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he’s a giant killer and he’s good on his
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feet and he’s smart and his answer the
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other day on the on the anthem question
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was as good I mean I sat there watching
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that going I wish I’d written that damn
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so thank you we have time for this one
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last question all right
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hook it up thank you
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so I work in polling and I’m very
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curious tell me who so I’m just curious
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what you think where we’re going with
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political polling for the next
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presidential election and really how you
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know I think from my work I’ve seen that
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the general public’s trust in polling
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has just been demolished based yeah yeah
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I think you and I can both acknowledge
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that that 600 sample national polls are
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no longer effective as a tool you know I
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I have a couple of researchers and firms
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that I’ve used and helped put together
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over the years and everything counts in
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large amounts so we’re doing thousands
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and thousands more interviews than we
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ever have and we’re doing robo’s but you
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know we’re overcoming the the inaccuracy
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of it with just sheer volume sheer
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tonnage I think we’re gonna have to
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continue to merge polling with other
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data a consumer data and behavioral data
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and stuff we’re seeing online we were
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able to get much quicker than we have in
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the past but I think as a tracking
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mechanism its god-awful
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as a quantitative exercise it’s it’s a
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train wreck but fortunately as a media
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prompt there’s almost nothing that that
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drives media faster during a campaign
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season than a poll showing somebody up
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down good bad so it’s a longer
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discussion that we could have here and a
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fairly technical one but I’m a big fan
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of way more interviews and and I don’t
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even care about the the the you know the
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trivialities of the inside campaign
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stuff it’s mostly junk these days so
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thank you all right
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[Applause]
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you

Martha Nussbaum, “The Monarchy of Fear”

Martha Nussbaum discusses her book, “The Monarchy of Fear” at Politics and Prose on 7/9/18.

One of the country’s leading moral philosophers, Nussbaum cuts through the acrimony of today’s political landscape to analyze the Trump era through one simple truth: that the political is always emotional. Starting there, she shows how globalization has produced feelings of powerlessness that have in turn fed resentment and blame. These have erupted into hostility against immigrants, women, Muslims, people of color, and cultural elites. Drawing on examples from ancient Greece to Hamilton, Nussbaum shows how anger and fear inflame people on both the left and right; by illuminating the powerful role these passions play in public life, she points to ways we can avoid getting caught up in the vitriol that sustains and perpetuates divisive politics.

The Who-Can-Beat Trump Test Leads to Kamala Harris

Bringing the energy and hope to stare down Trump and his movement.

Nations, like people, may change somewhat, but not in their essential characteristics. The United States is defined by space and hope. It is an optimistic country of can-do strivers. They took the risk of coming to a new land. They are suspicious of government, inclined to self-reliance. Europeans ask where you came from. Americans ask what you can do.

The Declaration of Independence posited a universal idea, that human beings are created equal, that they are endowed with certain inalienable rights, and that among these are “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Americans, then, embraced an idea, however flawed in execution, when they became a nation. Their government, whatever else it does, exists to safeguard and further that idea, in the United States and beyond.

President Trump, in the name of making American great again, has trampled on America’s essence. He is angry, a stranger to happiness, angrier still for not knowing the source of his rage. He is less interested in liberty than the cash of his autocratic cronies. As for life, he views it as a selective right, to which the white Christian male has priority access, with women, people of color and the rest of humanity trailing along behind for scraps.

Adherents to an agenda of “national conservatism” held a conference last month in Washington dedicated, as my colleague Jennifer Schuessler put it, “to wresting a coherent ideology out of the chaos of the Trumpist moment.”

Good luck with that. One of the meeting’s leading lights was Rich Lowry, the editor of National Review. Lowry’s forthcoming book is called “The Case for Nationalism.” Enough said. The endpoint of that “case” is on display at military cemeteries across Europe.

Nationalism, self-pitying and aggressive, seeks to change the present in the name of an illusory past in order to create a future vague in all respects except its glory. Trump is a self-styled nationalist. The “U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!” chants at his rallies have chilling echoes.

Lowry holds that “America is not an idea” and to call it so is a “lazy cliché.” This argument denies the essence of the country — an essence palpable at every naturalization ceremony across the United States. Becoming American is a process that involves the inner absorption of the nation’s founding idea.

The gravest thing Trump has done is to empty this idea of meaning. His has been an assault on honesty, decency, dignity, tolerance and civility. On this president’s wish list, every right is alienable. He leads a movement more than he does a nation, and so depends on fear to mobilize people. Any victorious Democratic Party candidate in 2020 has to counter that negative energy with a positive energy that lifts Americans from Trump’s web.

I watched the Democratic Party debates among presidential contenders through a single prism: Who can beat Trump? In the end, nothing else matters because another five and a half years of this will drag Americans into an abyss of moral collapse.

Yes, how far left, how moderate that candidate may be is of some significance, but can he or she bring the heat and the hope to stare Trump down and topple him is all I care about. That’s the bouncing ball all eyes should be on, with no illusions as to how vicious and devious Trump will be between now and November 2020.

With reluctance, because he is a good and honorable man of great personal courage, I do not believe that Joe Biden has the needed energy, mental agility and nimbleness. Nor do I believe that the nation of can-do strivers I described above is ready for Bernie Sanders’s “democratic socialism.” Forms of socialism work in Europe, and the word is widely misunderstood in America, but socialism and America’s essence are incompatible.

Elizabeth Warren’s couching of a campaign for radical change as “economic patriotism” is a much smarter way to go, and her energetic advocacy of ideas to redress the growing injustices in American life has been powerful. Still, I am not convinced that enough Americans are ready to move as far left as she proposes or that she passes the critical commander in chief test.

Kamala Harris does that for me. The California senator is a work in progress, with

  • uneven debate performances, and policies, notably health care, that she has zigzagged toward defining. But she’s
  • tough, broadly of the center,
  • has a great American story, is passionate on issues including immigrants, African-Americans and women, and has
  • proved she is not averse to risk. She
  • has a former prosecutor’s toughness and the ability to slice through Trump’s self-important bluster.

Last month Harris said Trump was a “predator.” She continued: “The thing about predators you should know, is that they prey on the vulnerable. They prey on those who they do not believe are strong. And the thing you must importantly know, predators are cowards.”

Those were important words. It’s early days, but Trump’s biggest electoral vulnerability is to women. They have seen through his misogyny at last, and they know just where the testosterone of nationalism leads.

Jonathan Sacks The Dignity of Difference (Krista Tippett)

MS. TIPPETT:You know, I start in this place with everyone I interview, whoever they are. If they’re a quantum physicist or a theologian. And I just wanted to hear something about the particular spiritual background of your childhood. Did you have a devout Jewish upbringing?

RABBI SACKS: I was the oldest of four boys. My father, who had come to Britain as a refugee from Poland at the age of six, had to leave school at the age of 14, so he never had an education — not Jewish or secular. My mother had to leave school at the age of 16. So my parents didn’t know that much. What they did have was a great love for Judaism. And, you know, I tend to think that’s the greatest gift you can give a child. Wordsworth said it beautifully. “What we love, others will love, and we will show them how.”

 

RABBI SACKS:No, actually. In 1990, the BBC asked me to give the Reith Lectures. They’re given once a year. There are six lectures on radio, first given by Bertrand Russell in 1948. I was only the second religious leader to give them, and I called them “The Persistence of Faith.” It was probably the first response to Francis Fukuyama’s vision of the end of history. You know, the Berlin Wall had fallen, Soviet Union had collapsed, end of Cold War. Everyone was seeing what he foresaw as the, you know, seamless spread of liberal democracy over the world.

And I said no, actually. I think you’re going to see faith return and return in a way that will cause some problems because the most powerful faith in the modern world will be the faith most powerfully opposed to the modern world. So that was in 1990, the year before I became Chief Rabbi. Nothing that’s happened since has surprised me, though it has saddened me. Religion is a great power, and anything that powerful can be a force for good or, God forbid, for evil. But it’s certainly fraught and dangerous and needs great wisdom and great — if I can use this word — gentleness.

 

MS. TIPPETT:And so I’d like to draw you out on how Jewish experience and Jewish tradition — you know, what resources and vocabulary that might bring to this global moment, which is not merely uncertain, but certainly marked by change, which is stressful for human beings. One of the ways you’ve talked about that, not uncontroversially, is about the approach you see deep within Jewish tradition to difference.

RABBI SACKS:Yeah. It seems to me that one of the things we most fear is the stranger. And at most times in human history, most people have lived among people who are mostly pretty much the same as themselves. Today — certainly in Europe and perhaps even in America — walk down the average main street and you will encounter in ten minutes more anthropological diversity than an 18th-century traveler would have encountered in a lifetime.

So you really have this huge problem of diversity. And you then go back and read the Bible and something hits you, which is, we’re very familiar with the two great commands of love: Love God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your might; love your neighbor as yourself. But the one command reiterated more than any other in the mosaic box — 36 times, said the rabbis — is love the stranger. For you were once strangers in the land of Egypt. Or, to put it in a contemporary way, love the stranger because, to him, you’re a stranger. This sense that we are enlarged by the people who are different from us — we are not threatened by them — that needs cultivating, can be cultivated, and would lead us to see the 21st century as full of blessing, not full of fear.

 

Oh, sure. I mean, you take — you know, I’m really not very good at sort of operating machines, so I fall back on that old aphorism, “When all else fails, read the instructions.”

MS. TIPPETT:Right. [laughs]

RABBI SACKS:And here we are reading those instructions afresh through the eyes of quantitative and experimental science and discovering what the great traditions of wisdom were saying three or 4,000 years ago. We now know that it is

  1. doing good to others,
  2. a network of strong and supportive relationships, and
  3. a sense that one’s life is worthwhile, are the three greatest determinants of happiness.

And, you know, somehow or other, against our will sometimes, we are being thrust back to these ancient and very noble and beautiful truths. And that we can now do so in a fellowship — awkward, perhaps, and embarrassed — between religious leaders and scientists and social scientists.

 

RABBI SACKS:Yeah. Well, let’s not try to describe this as 21st-century radical theology. It always helps if we can locate it in sacred texts. So for me, here is a moment where the hero of the Book of Exodus is a young man called Moses and the villain of the Book of Exodus is somebody called Pharaoh. But it’s Pharaoh’s daughter who, at great risk to herself, saves the life of this young baby who she knows immediately is a Hebrew baby, that she says so, and she knows her father has decreed that every male Hebrew child shall be killed. So at great risk to herself, she takes this child into her home and brings it up. So now we have the daughter of the biggest villain of the book who is responsible for the saving of the life of the hero. Now if that doesn’t challenge our paradigms, I don’t know what does.

You can find God in the other side, and that is something the Bible is doing quite a lot. After all, there’s only one perfect individual — well, perhaps two, if you like — in the whole Bible and neither of them is Jewish. One is called Noah and one is called Job and neither is Jewish. Noah comes before Judaism. Job is what I call every man. Then you look at all the prophets of ancient Israel, and they spent a lifetime preaching to the Israelites, and nobody listened. God sends one prophet, Jonah, to non-Jews, the people in Nineveh, the capital of Israel’s traditional enemy, the Assyrians. Here, all he does is say five Hebrew words, one English sentence: “In 40 days, Nineveh will be destroyed.” And they all repent. So it turns out that non-Jews are better at listening to Jewish prophets than Jews are.

MS. TIPPETT:[laughs] Right. So there is this paradox, this very interesting recurring threat of otherness and …

RABBI SACKS: The Bible is saying to us the whole time, don’t think that God is as simple as you are. He’s in places you would never expect him to be. And, you know, we lose a bit of that in English translation. Because, when Moses, at the burning bush, says to God, “Who are you?” God says to him three words: “Hayah asher hayah.” And those words are mistranslated in English as “I am that which I am.” But in Hebrew, it means “I will be who or how or where I will be,” meaning, don’t think you can predict me. I am a God who is going to surprise you. And one of the ways God surprises us is by letting a Jew or a Christian discover the trace of God’s presence in a Buddhist monk or a Sikh tradition of hospitality or the graciousness of Hindu life. You know, don’t think we can confine God into our categories. God is bigger than religion.