Media Deception: Covid-19 Clickbait: Read the Whole Thing (Joe Rogan)

that have like their here’s a deceptive
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one that i’ve read it was really fucked
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up they were talking about this kid who
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was I think he was 17 who died from
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kovat and they said he was and they were
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said he was healthy no under no other
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health issues they said but then we read
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the article deeper it turns out he had
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diabetes he had
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type one diabetes and he was 400 pounds
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and it’s like wait a minute
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the that’s not no issues these articles
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are full of shit and they write those
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articles just so that you click on them
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because they get the the fucking ad
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revenue from clicks and so they’re
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incentivized to trick you into being
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scared they’re like oh my god a 17 year
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old died what happened my 17 year old
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can die
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holy fuck and then you click on it and
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if you don’t read you know six seven
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paragraphs into the article you don’t
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find out that this was a 400-pound
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diabetic kid that you know that’s what
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have died from the flu three months
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earlier it would have been the same shit
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yeah yeah you know so the numbers are
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fudged so I don’t want to believe your
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numbers don’t come to me with more scare
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tactics about like the numbers are
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spiking well you already said that 50%
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of the positives are false positives
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well at least finally they’re saying
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when they’re said the numbers are
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spiking I haven’t heard the 50% fault
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video there was the the chick that is
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ill with Falchi the other one she was
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saying 50% yeah I don’t know how old the
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video was with it our testing is we’re
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coming up and if you have one percent of
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whatever and we test it and 50 you know
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about half of the positives or false
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positive Jesus and then I don’t wear a
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mask
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and you have to wear masks they said the
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whole reason we have to flatten the
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curve is because you can live on
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anything for up to like nine days and
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even an asymptomatic person can still
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transmit it then it comes out they say
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the exact opposite yeah now they’re
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saying asymptomatic people very very
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rarely twelve-minute I don’t choose to
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believe that Joe I’m gonna relieve what
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they told me the first time not gonna do
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it not the new facts that they have now
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so we’re still gonna wear masks all the
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time yeah people get mad at you if you
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suggest differently there’s a lot of
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people that like being scared too and
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you’re like fuck you love it we’re your
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goddamn masks we need to protect people
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love it but meanwhile snow policed who’s
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gonna protect you and you who’s gonna
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protect your family me meanwhile there
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was no be these people weren’t freaking
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out when you’ve seen these mass protests
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and the spikes guess what happened right
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after the protest and at least they’re
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saying that now at least they’re saying
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they’re being forced into saying is
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probably connected
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the protests well of course it’s just
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one way to get attacked to get people to
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skate let’s scare them to stop revolting
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let’s give them let’s get them chill out
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you got you know now the numbers are
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spiking guys do you think it’s that
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calculated that that’s what they’re
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doing I think there’s a lot of
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calculated shit going on
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there’s too many weird things going on
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I’m like who’s calculating I’m though I
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think that it’s dr. evil I think it is I
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think that they’re in like their thing
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and next we’re gonna launch the sharks
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with laser beams on their head what
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happened to murder Hornets they came and
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went real quick I was really worried
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about them aliens bro fuck I put it out
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there and you come well ends are coming
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before before the election Dave’s like
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listen man I got to do something I got
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to figure this out it’s all been
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approved by the governor everybody’s you
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know distanced six feet apart they all
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maintain social distancing during the
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show they wear masks during the show how
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long what’s this how long are we to keep
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doing this Texas governor is people to
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stay home states report surges of nuke
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ovid 19 cases yeah you want to see the
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photo of the Austin protests you’ve seen
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it it’s crazy
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you know Austin which is the most
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progressive city in Texas had this
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insane protest which listen I think is
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great I do I think it’s great that
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people want to show solidarity that
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people want to to get out there and and
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let everybody know that they’re they’re
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not down with police brutality and that
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they’re there they’re down with racial
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equality and that you got all these
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thousands and thousands of people
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together to have the same positive
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message I love it however that Co vid
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doesn’t give a fuck about racial
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equality or social justice if you’re if
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you’re not healthy it’s gonna get you I
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don’t know and the case is spike but the
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other thing about Texas is a giant
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percentage of it I think somewhere in
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the neighborhood at 50% is actually in
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prisons so when they’re talking about
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statewide issues did you have an image
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so I can get an image for you I got a
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good one for you oh that’s a good one
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yeah that’ll cause problem
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look at his fucking people but one thing
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they have found out if you guys if you
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guys are gonna protest protest during
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the day and this is why there’s been a
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new study that came out that said that
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kovat 19 dies almost instantly in
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contact with sunlight
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no Trump’s say that like two months ago
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and everyone said he was crazy no he was
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saying like put lights to the body no he
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said when the summer comes that he knows
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it but it’s not but it’s not the heat
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it’s actually light so the nighttime is
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just as dangerous in the summer it is as
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it is during the day it’s not heat it’s
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not a temperature issue I’m sure some
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temperature kills it Joe this thing is
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not real bro this is not real it’s not
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really a joint it is the fucking flu
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yeah let’s do it dude it’s not real you
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don’t think it’s real I think that the
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flu is real I think that people get sick
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from the flu every year and die I think
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that it’s a it’s a bad thing I don’t
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think that all of this nonsense is going
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on and they keep keep perpetuating it
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and keep perpetuating keep perpetuating
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it come on I just not buying anything I
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just you guys you change your views and
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change your opinions it’s like it’s like
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if you were the writer of a TV show say
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friends your job would be to write a 30
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minute episode that was funny and
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intriguing and dramatic and fucking
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scary or whatever the fuck
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and like the the media just writes an
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episode and then the next day they like
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write a new episode and write a new
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episode and like change their shit I
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understand
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such bullshit I understand what you
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saying I’m gonna give you a different
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perspective okay this is the different
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perspective the different perspective is
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legit biologists have analyzed the
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actual virus itself and they find all
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sorts of problems with this virus I had
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Brett Weinstein on the podcast the other
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day he’s a professor a legit biologist
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and he was discussing all of the
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indicators in the virus that seemed to
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point to the fact that this has probably
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been leaked from a lab and explained it
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in terms of the way viruses evolve I’m
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gonna do a terrible job of paraphrasing
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it because I’m a moron and he’s
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brilliant but when he said in the long
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run what he’s basically saying is this
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is a very legit virus
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it’s very complicated because of the
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fact that it’s been fucked with because
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this is not a virus like you know like a
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regular cold or like anything else that
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we’ve encountered before this is
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something that’s really complicated and
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may have evolved because it came from a
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lab his perspective is it may have
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evolved to transmit better indoors and
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it’s very vulnerable to UV light which
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also might be part of you know it being
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from a lab and not something that
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existed in the wild that actually just
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jumped from a bat to a Pangolin to a
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person or what have you so legit
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scientists and biologists who are not a
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part of the narrative they’re not
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working for any government agency
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they’re not a part of the news media
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that’s trying to transmit propaganda
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they are concerned with it and they’re
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concerned with it for very specific
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scientific reasons now me as a person
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who doesn’t know what the fuck any of
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that stuff I just said means really I
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just repeat it
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it sounds like I’m smart but they the
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the smart people actually are worried
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about it for very specific reasons that
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he could explain to you now it’s not
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vulnerable for a lot of people they’re
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not gonna be vulnerable like pro
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athletes we were talking about those NBA
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players to get it listen those are top
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of the food chain stud athletes they
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shake it off they’re not experiencing
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any symptoms you know over and over and
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over again there’s a lot of people that
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get injured selber shook it off there’s
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a lot of people that get it shake it off
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they barely get it they barely even know
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they have it
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but they’re really robust healthy people
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the concern is people that aren’t old
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people
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people that are vulnerable when they get
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it man they get it bad and I was reading
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an article today about a woman who’s
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been sick with kovat for a hundred days
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now and she still has days she has like
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these horrible flu-like symptoms and she
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gets real wheezy but I think she has
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multiple sclerosis and she’s got some
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other underlying health conditions so
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those people have to really be worried
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about this because it’s not predictable
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and they don’t know how to treat it
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totally especially in the beginning
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turned out when they put people on
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ventilators my buddy Michael yo got it
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and he got it early on and his doctor
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told him if I put you on a ventilator
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you’re probably gonna die because your
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body’s gonna stop breathing for itself
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it’s good to let
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but the ventilator do all the work the
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ventilator like 90% of people put on
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ventilators I think or 80 80 per side
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for anything ever died is that true I
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don’t know that’s what I said
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80 to 80 percent so when the question is
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almost like we need 40,000 ventilators
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because we’re who are you saving when
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80% of those people are gonna die
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the thing is though like I think the
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ventilator one way you could look at it
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the ventilator is such a last-ditch
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effort that by the time you get that
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what is that was it
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ice-cold why is it school delicious what
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happy for you much what a good man he
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brings his own beer you fucking study
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with all kinds of um I brought you some
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ignite stuff too Oh Danson found out the
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Dan Bilzerian tell me he’s writing a
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book yeah I think he did write his book
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yeah that one’s for Marshall my dog’s
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been using it too it’s really good stuff
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you know Dan everything’s the best he’s
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he’s jumped balls deep into weed and CBD
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yeah right look at that dog CBD it even
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says it on there I fucked up with CBD MD
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and I took some of their dogs CBD was
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delicious peanut butter flavor
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I think it’s final I’m sure why not CBD
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but they make it flavors for dogs what’s
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up cool ass more shit what is the RAM
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said I think it’s a goat head I asked
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him once about and I care member what
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the answer was I think it’s always been
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like his thing that’s that’s like Satan
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right what is the one the the devil that
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has the goat head is it Beelzebub sounds
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good it sounds like they’ll be correct
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Thank You Satan no what is it
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which one
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you gotta be careful you know you get
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people so high that they get super
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paranoid and they look down that goat
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head Baphomet
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Oh Baphomet that’s right I’ve seen him
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on things before that’s like something
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Duncan would know a lot about come on
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man hey Dan why is that guy on the cover
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your fucking partner where’s that goat
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dude with with eagle-wing go dude oh
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look guys creepies fuck with his
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pentagram on his head houston I see you
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capacity could soon be exceeded as kovat
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19 hospital agents worsen command and
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all the videos come out and it’s like
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people and going to the hospitals and
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there’s no lines that they’re trying to
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make it out to be you know there’s a lot
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of there’s a lot of fuckery going on
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with this misinformation and that’s
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there’s a little bit of the newest of
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the newer but there’s also real shit
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going on okay dr. Peter Hotez he’s been
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on the podcast before National School of
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Tropical Medicine diseases Tropical
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Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine
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he’s a brilliant guy yeah it says the
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city of Houston which is known for its
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medical schools has a large
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concentration of beds and research
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hospitals and whatnot and they’re very
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close to running out of all of their ICU
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beds he said he called on the state to
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reimpose more aggressive social
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distancing restrictions so he’s not a
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he’s not a foolish person if he’s saying
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this he’s a legit scientist and a doctor
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and he knows a tremendous amount about
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diseases I met him many many years ago
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[Applause]

How Trolls Overran the Public Square

Since the invention of writing, human innovation has transformed how we formulate new ideas, organize our societies, and communicate with one another. But in an age of rapid-fire social media and nonstop algorithm-generated outrage, technology is no longer helping to expand or enrich the public sphere.

BERKELEY – Since 1900, human technology and organization have been evolving at a blistering pace. The degree of change that occurs in just one year would have taken 50 years or more before 1500. War and politics used to be the meat of human history, with advances in technology and organization unfolding very slowly – if at all – in the background. Now, the inverse is true.

The impact of technological innovation on the marketplace of ideas has brought about some of the most consequential changes. The shift from the age of handwritten and hand-copied manuscripts to that of the Gutenberg press ushered in the Copernican Revolution (along with almost two centuries of genocidal religious war). Pamphlets and coffee houses broadened the public sphere and positioned public opinion as a powerful constraint on political rulers’ behavior.

As John Adams, the second president of the United States, later pointed out, the “[American] Revolution was effected before the war commenced … in the minds and hearts of the people.” The decisive intellectual battle, we now know, was won by the English-born printer Thomas Paine’s pamphlet Common Sense. Still, even during the revolutionary period, the pace of change was far slower than it is today. In the space of just two human lifetimes, we have gone from mass-market newspapers and press lords to radio and network television, and then on to the Internet and today’s social media-driven public sphere. And most of us will live long enough to witness whatever comes next.

There is now a near-consensus – at least among those who are not completely steeped in social-media propaganda – that the current public sphere does not serve us well. “Social media is broken,” the American author Annalee Newitz wrote in a recent commentary for the New York Times. “It has poisoned the way we communicate with each other and undermined the democratic process. Many of us just want to get away from it, but we can’t imagine a world without it.”

Western societies have experienced a similar sentiment before. In the 1930s, my great-uncles listened to their elders complain about how radio had allowed demagogues like Adolf Hitler, Charles Coughlin, and Franklin D. Roosevelt (that “communist”) to short-circuit the normal processes of public discourse. No longer were public debates kept sober and rational by traditional gatekeepers. In the new age of broadcast, unapproved memes could spread far and wide without interference. Politicians and ideologues who may not have had the public interest in mind could get right into people’s ears and hijack their brains.

Nowadays, the problem is not a single demagogue, but a public sphere beset by swarms of “influencers,” propagandists, and bots, all semi-coordinated by the dynamics of the medium itself. Once again, ideas of dubious quality and provenance are shaping people’s thoughts without having been subjected to adequate evaluation and analysis.

We should have seen this coming. A generation ago, when the “net” was limited to universities and research institutes, there was an annual “September” phenomenon. Each year, new arrivals to the institution would be given an email account and/or user profile, whereupon they would rapidly find their online communities. They would begin to talk, and someone, inevitably, would get annoyed. For the next month, whatever informational or discursive use the net might have had would be sidelined by continuous vitriolic exchanges.

Then things would calm down. People would remember to put on their asbestos underwear before logging on; they learned not to take the newbies so seriously. Trolls would find themselves banned from the forums they loved to disrupt. And, in any case, most who experimented with the troll lifestyle realized that it has little to recommend it. For the next 11 months, the net would serve its purpose, significantly extending each user’s cultural, conversational, and intellectual range, and adding to the collective stock of human intelligence.

But as the Internet began to spread to each household and then to each smartphone, fears about the danger of an “eternal September” have been confirmed. There is more money to be made by stoking outrage than by providing sound information and encouraging the social-learning process that once taught net newbies to calm down. And yet, today’s Internet does offer valuable information, so much so that few of us could imagine doing without it. To access that information, we have tacitly agreed to allow the architects at Facebook, Twitter, Google (especially YouTube), and elsewhere to shape the public sphere with their outrage- and clickbait-generating algorithms.

Meanwhile, others have found that there is a great deal of money and power to be gained by shaping public opinion online. If you want to get your views out there, it is easier to piggyback on the outrage machine than to develop a comprehensive rational argument – especially when those views are self-serving and deleterious to the public good.

For her part, Newitz ends her recent commentary on a hopeful note. “Public life has been irrevocably changed by social media; now it’s time for something else,” she writes. “We need to stop handing off responsibility for maintaining public space to corporations and algorithms – and give it back to human beings. We may need to slow down, but we’ve created democracies out of chaos before. We can do it again.”

Such hope may be necessary for journalists these days. Unfortunately, a rational evaluation of our situation suggests that it is unjustified. The eternal September of our discontent has arrived.