that have like their here’s a deceptive
one that i’ve read it was really fucked
up they were talking about this kid who
was I think he was 17 who died from
kovat and they said he was and they were
said he was healthy no under no other
health issues they said but then we read
the article deeper it turns out he had
diabetes he had
type one diabetes and he was 400 pounds
and it’s like wait a minute
the that’s not no issues these articles
are full of shit and they write those
articles just so that you click on them
because they get the the fucking ad
revenue from clicks and so they’re
incentivized to trick you into being
scared they’re like oh my god a 17 year
old died what happened my 17 year old
holy fuck and then you click on it and
if you don’t read you know six seven
paragraphs into the article you don’t
find out that this was a 400-pound
diabetic kid that you know that’s what
have died from the flu three months
earlier it would have been the same shit
yeah yeah you know so the numbers are
fudged so I don’t want to believe your
numbers don’t come to me with more scare
tactics about like the numbers are
spiking well you already said that 50%
of the positives are false positives
well at least finally they’re saying
when they’re said the numbers are
spiking I haven’t heard the 50% fault
video there was the the chick that is
ill with Falchi the other one she was
saying 50% yeah I don’t know how old the
video was with it our testing is we’re
coming up and if you have one percent of
whatever and we test it and 50 you know
about half of the positives or false
positive Jesus and then I don’t wear a
and you have to wear masks they said the
whole reason we have to flatten the
curve is because you can live on
anything for up to like nine days and
even an asymptomatic person can still
transmit it then it comes out they say
the exact opposite yeah now they’re
saying asymptomatic people very very
rarely twelve-minute I don’t choose to
believe that Joe I’m gonna relieve what
they told me the first time not gonna do
it not the new facts that they have now
so we’re still gonna wear masks all the
time yeah people get mad at you if you
suggest differently there’s a lot of
people that like being scared too and
you’re like fuck you love it we’re your
goddamn masks we need to protect people
love it but meanwhile snow policed who’s
gonna protect you and you who’s gonna
protect your family me meanwhile there
was no be these people weren’t freaking
out when you’ve seen these mass protests
and the spikes guess what happened right
after the protest and at least they’re
saying that now at least they’re saying
they’re being forced into saying is
the protests well of course it’s just
one way to get attacked to get people to
skate let’s scare them to stop revolting
let’s give them let’s get them chill out
you got you know now the numbers are
spiking guys do you think it’s that
calculated that that’s what they’re
doing I think there’s a lot of
calculated shit going on
there’s too many weird things going on
I’m like who’s calculating I’m though I
think that it’s dr. evil I think it is I
think that they’re in like their thing
and next we’re gonna launch the sharks
with laser beams on their head what
happened to murder Hornets they came and
went real quick I was really worried
about them aliens bro fuck I put it out
there and you come well ends are coming
before before the election Dave’s like
listen man I got to do something I got
to figure this out it’s all been
approved by the governor everybody’s you
know distanced six feet apart they all
maintain social distancing during the
show they wear masks during the show how
long what’s this how long are we to keep
doing this Texas governor is people to
stay home states report surges of nuke
ovid 19 cases yeah you want to see the
photo of the Austin protests you’ve seen
it it’s crazy
you know Austin which is the most
progressive city in Texas had this
insane protest which listen I think is
great I do I think it’s great that
people want to show solidarity that
people want to to get out there and and
let everybody know that they’re they’re
not down with police brutality and that
they’re there they’re down with racial
equality and that you got all these
thousands and thousands of people
together to have the same positive
message I love it however that Co vid
doesn’t give a fuck about racial
equality or social justice if you’re if
you’re not healthy it’s gonna get you I
don’t know and the case is spike but the
other thing about Texas is a giant
percentage of it I think somewhere in
the neighborhood at 50% is actually in
prisons so when they’re talking about
statewide issues did you have an image
so I can get an image for you I got a
good one for you oh that’s a good one
yeah that’ll cause problem
look at his fucking people but one thing
they have found out if you guys if you
guys are gonna protest protest during
the day and this is why there’s been a
new study that came out that said that
kovat 19 dies almost instantly in
contact with sunlight
no Trump’s say that like two months ago
and everyone said he was crazy no he was
saying like put lights to the body no he
said when the summer comes that he knows
it but it’s not but it’s not the heat
it’s actually light so the nighttime is
just as dangerous in the summer it is as
it is during the day it’s not heat it’s
not a temperature issue I’m sure some
temperature kills it Joe this thing is
not real bro this is not real it’s not
really a joint it is the fucking flu
yeah let’s do it dude it’s not real you
don’t think it’s real I think that the
flu is real I think that people get sick
from the flu every year and die I think
that it’s a it’s a bad thing I don’t
think that all of this nonsense is going
on and they keep keep perpetuating it
and keep perpetuating keep perpetuating
it come on I just not buying anything I
just you guys you change your views and
change your opinions it’s like it’s like
if you were the writer of a TV show say
friends your job would be to write a 30
minute episode that was funny and
intriguing and dramatic and fucking
scary or whatever the fuck
and like the the media just writes an
episode and then the next day they like
write a new episode and write a new
episode and like change their shit I
such bullshit I understand what you
saying I’m gonna give you a different
perspective okay this is the different
perspective the different perspective is
legit biologists have analyzed the
actual virus itself and they find all
sorts of problems with this virus I had
Brett Weinstein on the podcast the other
day he’s a professor a legit biologist
and he was discussing all of the
indicators in the virus that seemed to
point to the fact that this has probably
been leaked from a lab and explained it
in terms of the way viruses evolve I’m
gonna do a terrible job of paraphrasing
it because I’m a moron and he’s
brilliant but when he said in the long
run what he’s basically saying is this
is a very legit virus
it’s very complicated because of the
fact that it’s been fucked with because
this is not a virus like you know like a
regular cold or like anything else that
we’ve encountered before this is
something that’s really complicated and
may have evolved because it came from a
lab his perspective is it may have
evolved to transmit better indoors and
it’s very vulnerable to UV light which
also might be part of you know it being
from a lab and not something that
existed in the wild that actually just
jumped from a bat to a Pangolin to a
person or what have you so legit
scientists and biologists who are not a
part of the narrative they’re not
working for any government agency
they’re not a part of the news media
that’s trying to transmit propaganda
they are concerned with it and they’re
concerned with it for very specific
scientific reasons now me as a person
who doesn’t know what the fuck any of
that stuff I just said means really I
just repeat it
it sounds like I’m smart but they the
the smart people actually are worried
about it for very specific reasons that
he could explain to you now it’s not
vulnerable for a lot of people they’re
not gonna be vulnerable like pro
athletes we were talking about those NBA
players to get it listen those are top
of the food chain stud athletes they
shake it off they’re not experiencing
any symptoms you know over and over and
over again there’s a lot of people that
get injured selber shook it off there’s
a lot of people that get it shake it off
they barely get it they barely even know
they have it
but they’re really robust healthy people
the concern is people that aren’t old
people that are vulnerable when they get
it man they get it bad and I was reading
an article today about a woman who’s
been sick with kovat for a hundred days
now and she still has days she has like
these horrible flu-like symptoms and she
gets real wheezy but I think she has
multiple sclerosis and she’s got some
other underlying health conditions so
those people have to really be worried
about this because it’s not predictable
and they don’t know how to treat it
totally especially in the beginning
turned out when they put people on
ventilators my buddy Michael yo got it
and he got it early on and his doctor
told him if I put you on a ventilator
you’re probably gonna die because your
body’s gonna stop breathing for itself
it’s good to let
but the ventilator do all the work the
ventilator like 90% of people put on
ventilators I think or 80 80 per side
for anything ever died is that true I
don’t know that’s what I said
80 to 80 percent so when the question is
almost like we need 40,000 ventilators
because we’re who are you saving when
80% of those people are gonna die
the thing is though like I think the
ventilator one way you could look at it
the ventilator is such a last-ditch
effort that by the time you get that
what is that was it
ice-cold why is it school delicious what
happy for you much what a good man he
brings his own beer you fucking study
with all kinds of um I brought you some
ignite stuff too Oh Danson found out the
Dan Bilzerian tell me he’s writing a
book yeah I think he did write his book
yeah that one’s for Marshall my dog’s
been using it too it’s really good stuff
you know Dan everything’s the best he’s
he’s jumped balls deep into weed and CBD
yeah right look at that dog CBD it even
says it on there I fucked up with CBD MD
and I took some of their dogs CBD was
delicious peanut butter flavor
I think it’s final I’m sure why not CBD
but they make it flavors for dogs what’s
up cool ass more shit what is the RAM
said I think it’s a goat head I asked
him once about and I care member what
the answer was I think it’s always been
like his thing that’s that’s like Satan
right what is the one the the devil that
has the goat head is it Beelzebub sounds
good it sounds like they’ll be correct
Thank You Satan no what is it
you gotta be careful you know you get
people so high that they get super
paranoid and they look down that goat
Oh Baphomet that’s right I’ve seen him
on things before that’s like something
Duncan would know a lot about come on
man hey Dan why is that guy on the cover
your fucking partner where’s that goat
dude with with eagle-wing go dude oh
look guys creepies fuck with his
pentagram on his head houston I see you
capacity could soon be exceeded as kovat
19 hospital agents worsen command and
all the videos come out and it’s like
people and going to the hospitals and
there’s no lines that they’re trying to
make it out to be you know there’s a lot
of there’s a lot of fuckery going on
with this misinformation and that’s
there’s a little bit of the newest of
the newer but there’s also real shit
going on okay dr. Peter Hotez he’s been
on the podcast before National School of
Tropical Medicine diseases Tropical
Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine
he’s a brilliant guy yeah it says the
city of Houston which is known for its
medical schools has a large
concentration of beds and research
hospitals and whatnot and they’re very
close to running out of all of their ICU
beds he said he called on the state to
reimpose more aggressive social
distancing restrictions so he’s not a
he’s not a foolish person if he’s saying
this he’s a legit scientist and a doctor
and he knows a tremendous amount about
diseases I met him many many years ago
Since the invention of writing, human innovation has transformed how we formulate new ideas, organize our societies, and communicate with one another. But in an age of rapid-fire social media and nonstop algorithm-generated outrage, technology is no longer helping to expand or enrich the public sphere.
BERKELEY – Since 1900, human technology and organization have been evolving at a blistering pace. The degree of change that occurs in just one year would have taken 50 years or more before 1500. War and politics used to be the meat of human history, with advances in technology and organization unfolding very slowly – if at all – in the background. Now, the inverse is true.
The impact of technological innovation on the marketplace of ideas has brought about some of the most consequential changes. The shift from the age of handwritten and hand-copied manuscripts to that of the Gutenberg press ushered in the Copernican Revolution (along with almost two centuries of genocidal religious war). Pamphlets and coffee houses broadened the public sphere and positioned public opinion as a powerful constraint on political rulers’ behavior.
As John Adams, the second president of the United States, later pointed out, the “[American] Revolution was effected before the war commenced … in the minds and hearts of the people.” The decisive intellectual battle, we now know, was won by the English-born printer Thomas Paine’s pamphlet Common Sense. Still, even during the revolutionary period, the pace of change was far slower than it is today. In the space of just two human lifetimes, we have gone from mass-market newspapers and press lords to radio and network television, and then on to the Internet and today’s social media-driven public sphere. And most of us will live long enough to witness whatever comes next.
There is now a near-consensus – at least among those who are not completely steeped in social-media propaganda – that the current public sphere does not serve us well. “Social media is broken,” the American author Annalee Newitz wrote in a recent commentary for the New York Times. “It has poisoned the way we communicate with each other and undermined the democratic process. Many of us just want to get away from it, but we can’t imagine a world without it.”
Western societies have experienced a similar sentiment before. In the 1930s, my great-uncles listened to their elders complain about how radio had allowed demagogues like Adolf Hitler, Charles Coughlin, and Franklin D. Roosevelt (that “communist”) to short-circuit the normal processes of public discourse. No longer were public debates kept sober and rational by traditional gatekeepers. In the new age of broadcast, unapproved memes could spread far and wide without interference. Politicians and ideologues who may not have had the public interest in mind could get right into people’s ears and hijack their brains.
Nowadays, the problem is not a single demagogue, but a public sphere beset by swarms of “influencers,” propagandists, and bots, all semi-coordinated by the dynamics of the medium itself. Once again, ideas of dubious quality and provenance are shaping people’s thoughts without having been subjected to adequate evaluation and analysis.
We should have seen this coming. A generation ago, when the “net” was limited to universities and research institutes, there was an annual “September” phenomenon. Each year, new arrivals to the institution would be given an email account and/or user profile, whereupon they would rapidly find their online communities. They would begin to talk, and someone, inevitably, would get annoyed. For the next month, whatever informational or discursive use the net might have had would be sidelined by continuous vitriolic exchanges.
Then things would calm down. People would remember to put on their asbestos underwear before logging on; they learned not to take the newbies so seriously. Trolls would find themselves banned from the forums they loved to disrupt. And, in any case, most who experimented with the troll lifestyle realized that it has little to recommend it. For the next 11 months, the net would serve its purpose, significantly extending each user’s cultural, conversational, and intellectual range, and adding to the collective stock of human intelligence.
But as the Internet began to spread to each household and then to each smartphone, fears about the danger of an “eternal September” have been confirmed. There is more money to be made by stoking outrage than by providing sound information and encouraging the social-learning process that once taught net newbies to calm down. And yet, today’s Internet does offer valuable information, so much so that few of us could imagine doing without it. To access that information, we have tacitly agreed to allow the architects at Facebook, Twitter, Google (especially YouTube), and elsewhere to shape the public sphere with their outrage- and clickbait-generating algorithms.
Meanwhile, others have found that there is a great deal of money and power to be gained by shaping public opinion online. If you want to get your views out there, it is easier to piggyback on the outrage machine than to develop a comprehensive rational argument – especially when those views are self-serving and deleterious to the public good.
For her part, Newitz ends her recent commentary on a hopeful note. “Public life has been irrevocably changed by social media; now it’s time for something else,” she writes. “We need to stop handing off responsibility for maintaining public space to corporations and algorithms – and give it back to human beings. We may need to slow down, but we’ve created democracies out of chaos before. We can do it again.”
Such hope may be necessary for journalists these days. Unfortunately, a rational evaluation of our situation suggests that it is unjustified. The eternal September of our discontent has arrived.
I can tell the people what it is you’re really trying to say.
Mark Zuckerberg has written an op-ed, and I wish he had not.
It was titled “The Facts About Facebook.” I would give that one tweak. I’d call it “Mark’s Facts About Facebook.”
In a piece for The Wall Street Journal timed to the social networking giant’s 15th anniversary, its once-young, now-not-so-young chief executive and founder tried and tried to persuade readers that they shouldn’t be afraid of what he has wrought.
But the post was essentially the greatest hits that we have heard Mr. Zuckerberg sing for a while now. He focused on the enormous advertising system that powers Facebook, while ignoring almost entirely the news from the last disastrous year, including Russian abuse of the platform, sloppy management of data, recent revelations that the company throws some pretty sharp elbows when it needs to, and more. You kind of get why Mr. Zuckerberg would want to forget it all.
Should I be annoyed by this? One person who favors Mr. Zuckerberg told me no, pointing out that the media is irked when he says nothing and even more bothered when he says something, so he cannot win whatever he does.
.. O.K., so instead of just criticizing, I thought I would help him with his piece, given I do this for a living and he does not, by rewriting his work. Here goes:
MARK WROTE: “Facebook turns 15 next month. When I started Facebook, I wasn’t trying to build a global company. I realized you could find almost anything on the internet — music, books, information — except the thing that matters most: people. So I built a service people could use to connect and learn about each other. Over the years, billions have found this useful, and we’ve built more services that people around the world love and use every day. Recently I’ve heard many questions about our business model, so I want to explain the principles of how we operate.”
KARA TRANSLATES: We old now. We big now. It came from my one really good idea: AOL sucked and I could do better and I did. Now the noise has reached me up on Billionaire Mountain, so I am going to have to pretend that I care.
MARK: “I believe everyone should have a voice and be able to connect. If we’re committed to serving everyone, then we need a service that is affordable to everyone. The best way to do that is to offer services for free, which ads enable us to do.”
KARA: No rich person is going to pay too much for this muffler, um, social media service, and poor people aren’t going to pay us at all because they apparently don’t have money. So everyone will have to endure the ads that we shovel out and stop griping, because free ain’t free, people.
I don’t know about you, but I find American life these days positively exhausting. Everything is always trying to wind you up, from political tweets and cable news to sports debate shows, thrill-ride movies and Internet headlines that will say anything to make you click on a link. Small wonder that many people are looking for things that don’t do that, but that offer what we might call counterprogramming to our whole troll-infested culture.
Audiences have found that in what may be the summer’s most surprising and beloved hits – “Won’t You Be My Neighbor,” Morgan Neville’s moving documentary about Fred Rogers, the creator and star of “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood,” and “Nanette,” starring the Australian comic Hannah Gadsby, which has been called transformative by viewers, critics and her fellow comedians.
.. Born into money, ordained as a Christian minister, registered as a lifelong Republican, Rogers turned out to be a gentle radical whose mission was to embody and promote humane values. As Neville shows, “Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood” was inspired by Rogers’ dismay at the existing television shows for children, which he thought degrading, fatuous, thoughtlessly violent and designed to transform kids into consumers.
.. Then, she shifts gears, and we discover a value she shares with Fred Rogers, a refusal to play along with the rules of the medium of which they are a part. Just as he thought ordinary TV demeaned children, Gadsby explains why she can no longer do stand-up. She argues that stand-up works by ratcheting up tension with psychologically fraught material then releasing it with a punchline. And the demands of this process, tension and release, keep you from saying anything that doesn’t fit into that pattern.
.. neither Gadsby nor Rogers are scolds who hate art, which is, after all, a way of expressing feelings and truths that can’t be fully expressed any other way. In fact, both are consciously artful in what they do. But they also suggest that too much commercial entertainment is dehumanizing because it’s all about prompting an instantly pleasurable reaction. “Won’t You Be My Neighbor” and “Nanette” do precisely the opposite. They’re humanizing.
First of all, people who create mottos about how they don’t care what people think tend to be precisely the sort of people who care what other people think.
Another dead giveaway: When you repeatedly invite reporters from places such as Vanity Fair to follow you around and record your Stakhanovite disregard for the opinions of others.
Similarly, people who famously call back every reporter seeking a quote are the kind of people who love being buttered up by journalists.
.. Likewise, people who hungrily cooperate with authors looking to turn them into political celebrities are really into the idea of being political celebrities.
Staffers who take credit for their bosses’ political victories, on the record, tend not to be aloof islands of self-confidence either. People desperate to let you know that their philosophical lodestars are obscure mystics and cranks — he studied Evola and Guénon! — tend to be compensating for something.
.. If Bannon truly didn’t care about the “Opposition Party,” his term for the mainstream media, he wouldn’t have lost his job in the White House, the favor of the Mercers, and what was left of his reputation. But he just couldn’t resist talking to reporters and claiming credit for the accomplishments of others.
.. Bannon is a common character in Washington: a megalomaniac who made the mistake of believing his own bullshit.
Bannon believed he was the intellectual leader of a real grassroots movement, and all that was needed to midwife it into reality was to Astroturf as much rage and unthinking paranoia as the Mercer family’s money could buy.
.. Bannon’s self-proclaimed Leninism was mostly the kind of b.s. one spouts to rally the twentysomethings in their cubicles to churn out more ethically bankrupt clickbait fodder.
.. Lenin was a real radical who wanted to tear everything down. But his motto wasn’t “Honey badger don’t give a sh*t” — it was “The worse the better.” Both men share a theory that by exacerbating social tensions — heightening the contradictions in Marxobabble — they would emerge victorious. The biggest difference between the two men is that Lenin knew what he was doing.
.. There is a Nietzschean quality to both Bannon and the host organism he fed off. Rhetorically, Trump extols strength and power and denigrates rules and norms. But Trump’s Nietzscheanism is almost entirely in service to his own glory. He simply wants praise for its own sake. Bannon’s fetishization of strength and power and his denigration of rules and norms stems from a potted theory about how to burn it all down so he can rule the ashes.
.. He marveled at the performance art of Milo not because of any intellectual merit, but because it was transgressive, which is its own reward to the radical mind.
.. People spend too much time trying to figure out if Bannon is a bigot. Who cares? Isn’t it even more damning that he was perfectly comfortable to enlist bigots to his cause simply to leach off their passion and intensity?
.. Because Bannon consistently confuses means and ends, he was fine with forming an alliance of convenience with the alt-right when he thought it could help him.
.. Bannon likes to talk a big game about the importance of ideas, but his idea of how politics works is entirely anti-intellectual, and that’s what spelled his doom.
.. He talks a lot about the Trump agenda, and yet he’s made it his project to destroy any politician Trump actually needs if they dare stray from public sycophancy to Trump or fealty to Bannon’s dog’s-breakfast ideology.
.. He goes around the country stumping for crackpots and bigots, claiming to be the Joan of Arc of Trumpism, boasting incessantly of his courage and loyalty to Trump as evidenced by his willingness to stick with Trump during “Billy Bush Weekend.”
.. There’s just one problem: Bannon can’t stick to it. He just can’t help but boast to liberal reporters about how great and brilliant he is. He can’t resist talking smack about his rivals and denigrating the reality-show nationalist that plucked him out of relative obscurity, because despite all the impressive verbiage, Bannon can’t help but make himself the story.
On September 18, the British Channel 4 ran a news segment with the headline, ‘Potentially deadly bomb ingredients are ‘frequently bought together’ on Amazon.’
.. The real story in this mess is not the threat that algorithms pose to Amazon shoppers, but the threat that algorithms pose to journalism. By forcing reporters to optimize every story for clicks, not giving them time to check or contextualize their reporting, and requiring them to race to publish follow-on articles on every topic, the clickbait economics of online media encourage carelessness and drama. This is particularly true for technical topics outside the reporter’s area of expertise.
And reporters have no choice but to chase clicks. Because Google and Facebook have a duopoly on online advertising, the only measure of success in publishing is whether a story goes viral on social media. Authors are evaluated by how individual stories perform online, and face constant pressure to make them more arresting. Highly technical pieces are farmed out to junior freelancers working under strict time limits. Corrections, if they happen at all, are inserted quietly through ‘ninja edits’ after the fact.
There is no real penalty for making mistakes, but there is enormous pressure to frame stories in whatever way maximizes page views. Once those stories get picked up by rival news outlets, they become ineradicable. The sheer weight of copycat coverage creates the impression of legitimacy. As the old adage has it, a lie can get halfway around the world while the truth is pulling its boots on.
Earlier this year, when the Guardian published an equally ignorant (and far more harmful) scare piece about a popular secure messenger app, it took a group of security experts six months of cajoling and pressure to shame the site into amending its coverage. And the Guardian is a prestige publication, with an independent public editor. Not every story can get such editorial scrutiny on appeal, or attract the sympathetic attention of Teen Vogue.
The very machine learning systems that Channel 4’s article purports to expose are eroding online journalism’s ability to do its job.
Moral panics like this one are not just harmful to musket owners and model rocket builders. They distract and discredit journalists, making it harder to perform the essential function of serving as a check on the powerful.
The real story of machine learning is not how it promotes home bomb-making, but that it’s being deployed at scale with minimal ethical oversight, in the service of a business model that relies entirely on psychological manipulation and mass surveillance. The capacity to manipulate people at scale is being sold to the highest bidder, and has infected every aspect of civic life, including democratic elections and journalism.
Together with climate change, this algorithmic takeover of the public sphere is the biggest news story of the early 21st century.
Doug Schoen, Dennis Kucinich and Joe Concha react on ‘Hannity’
This is clickbait.