The War on Drugs creates public distrust, racial profiling, lies, and pretextual detentions

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Sources:

United States v. Robinson- https://bit.ly/38DJAau

Whren v. United States- https://bit.ly/3gX0kyJ

Yick Wo v. Hopkins- https://bit.ly/38NBVXY

Personnel Administrator of Massachusetts v. Feeney- https://bit.ly/3kwePdc

Illinois v. Caballes- https://bit.ly/3aYrksV

Rodriguez v. United States- https://bit.ly/2LS1sqc

Michigan v. Defillippo- https://bit.ly/3ycKfNU

Kolender v. Lawson- https://bit.ly/3F5ep7j

Florida v. Harris- https://bit.ly/3y315Pk

Efficacy of drug detection by fully-trained police dogs- https://bit.ly/39yEFez

Court Records (2018-TR-123713-A-O)- https://bit.ly/3FfATm3

 

Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByoL5

Real World Police’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChaE

Comments:

Look at the zeal with which he seeks to find suspicion in an ordinary person’s response to being approached with his level of aggression. Look at how thoroughly his desire to enforce drug busts—which are both profitable and valuable to him as a career move—corrupts his ability to to do his job properly. This entire situation is a ruse to bust someone for drugs. It has no legitimate traffic-enforcement purpose.

 

On top of that, there’s no actual complaint or meaningful indication of drug activity. This cop just pulled over some guy for a common, minor traffic thing and decided to turn his day into a nightmare, on the excuse that he reacted in a totally reasonable way (nervousness, invoking his rights) to a trap the cops manufactured to go fishing. The truth is that it wouldn’t matter how he reacted. They’d find an excuse to run the dog either way. This young man did exactly the right thing by invoking his rights.

 

On the cop’s own word, he doesn’t care about the traffic offenses in the least—even though he should, as traffic control is an important function that protects the public. He also doesn’t care about the rights of private citizens—arguably the most important function of his job—as evidenced by his willingness to play out this pretext to bully people into vehicle searches that contravene the spirit of the Fourth Amendment.

 

  • From :46 seconds to 1:36 the officers give 16 conflicting commands and ask 4 questions without waiting for an answer. This is very reminiscent of the Daniel Shaver murder. Luckily it didn’t play out that way this time.
  • Not only multiple commands, but contradictory commands as well. The cop told him to roll the window UP, then down. The guy literally did exactly what they told him to do, and somehow that is “suspicious”…
  • these tactics are taught. look up “verbal judo” on YouTube. you will find the guy who taught police how to do this, around the country, for decades. this ish is taught!
  • Don’t forget using the threat of issuing a ticket for the original pull over as leverage to progress their agenda.
  • It’s infuriating to watch how these cops use their authority to manipulate every act of compliance by this gentleman into a “suspicious” activity weaponized against him

 

  • “It’s not a big deal”, says the cop, while he’s making it a big deal. “Get your license and registration for me” says the cop who then wonders why the suspect is “reaching around “ for his license and registration.
  • Do you have license and registration, why are you reaching around so crazy?” That reminds me a lot of that video of the guy who was shot dead by the officer that was giving him multiple conflicting orders. “Get on the ground, don’t move, crawl towards me”. Forgot his name but this made me really upset that this officer did almost the same thing, like he was looking for an excuse to paint him as being aggressive to escalate the situation. Such scumbag cops
    • Once the officer accused him of reaching around when he was following the officers request I lost all trust in the officer.
  • As soon as I heard the cops say they were bringing in a drug dog, I knew that the dog would “find” something. Isn’t it amazing how that happens! You can tell that these cops have had practice shaking down people. People like these cops should not be in that job. They are not there to protect and serve, they are only there to serve themselves by playing these games as a way to gain favor from their bosses to advance their career.

I know it sounds extreme, but if the justice system itself won’t fix problems like this, our only peaceful option as individual citizens is to document the abuses and then avoid cities with police like this at all costs. It’s a slow bleed, but it will work. Starve them of taxes, tourism, and fines. Pressure the local government to fix the problem or watch itself gradually turn into a ghost town.

 

  • If any “thin blue line” fanboys are reading this….and still wonder why some of us don’t blindly admire cops…this video is one of the reasons why.

 

  • As a law abiding citizen, I’ve always resented that fact that I feel intimidated every time I see the police, LEO’s need to learn that their job is to protect and serve, it seems these days they’re more concerned with being sneaky and trying to shaft anyone they can because they noticed your brake light burned out before u could.
  • It’s unbelievable how there continues to be all these cops that don’t realize how much they terrify people with their very presence alone.
    • People are terrified for good reason!!! These agents of the state are dangerous!!

 

    • They absolutely realize that they intimidate community members that’s why they do it! They got off on this power trip.
    • I think they know exactly the effect they have on people, they just play dumb and abuse the fact that their victims are nervous and jittery

 

    • There is literally CASE law (I do not know it off hand) that says a little nervousness DURING a traffic stop is PERFECTLY NORMAL.

 

  • Typical copspeak/reaction. I got pulled over on the BW parkway once. As the cop was walking back to his car to run my ID, I yelled to him some pertinent info he needed. He ran back to my car and tried to say I was being aggressive for yelling. Sir, we’re next to a busy roadway, you wouldn’t hear a whisper.

 

  • He complies carefully with all their orders, they guilt-trip him for doing so, then they pull him out of the car without his consent, take away his cell phone after they said he could record, then keep telling him “You’re not in any kind of trouble”, as they handcuff him. Well that’s reassuring, and a great way to treat someone who’s “not in trouble”.

 

  • I can’t put into words how much this makes my blood boil. This could have been anyone here in the comments that it happens to. I do give the victim here an “A” for refusing to answer questions, and sticking to his right to not answer questions. If he follows up with an 18 USC 242 and 18 USC 241 federal lawsuit, I would promote that to an A+ Being nervous or sweating or fidgeting is no grounds for reasonable suspicion during a traffic stop: US V CHAVEZ VALENZUELA.

 

  • Ha, I got stopped a few weeks back, riding on my road bike for not yielding to a cop on a bike stop, coming down a bike trail! Yes, a bike stop, where there are Yield to pedestrians/cyclists signs everywhere. The guy got off his suv pretty aggressive & demanded for an I.D, like I had just ran a red light on a car. He kept demanding for my name or else he was going to write me a ticket, take me to jail & impound my $4,000 road bike. And I had read somewhere that cops can auction off your bike after 24 hours. Next thing I know, I had three cops pull up out of nowhere, one of them wanted to search me, but I did not consent & he backed off. I gave the aggressive cop my name. He goes back to his suv, 5 minutes later, he returned huffing & puffing & told me to, “Get the fu– out of here!”, in a scolding manner. I live like a block away from the local bike trail. I was shook. I’m 6’4 & built like a football player, but this skinny prick had the baseballs to speak to me like a school bully. The badge seems to give these cops a sense of “power” & entitlement. I did talk to a friend who is a lawyer, but since I did not get their name & badge numbers, I had nothing to persue. A month later & i’m still pissed about it. I worked my butt off to buy that bike. I was more scared of these pricks messing with my bike, than I had of going to jail.

 

  •  @Kermit Of War  Start wearing a GoPro when you’re on your bike for multiple reasons. It’s funny how different these clowns act when they know you’re recording them. Record every interaction you have with the Police for your safety and TRUTH, not their version of the event as they lie in their reports.
  • Officer: “I’m not forcing you to answer my questions” also Officer: “Answer my questions or I put you under arrest.”
  • “You got license and registration” “Why are you reaching” Garbage cop should lose his qualified immunity.
  • “I don’t consent to searches” “I dont wanna answer any questions” He’s exercising his rights and then they try to guilt him as if he’s “making them nervous” (the ones with the guns ), gaslight him and act like they arent pushing him on these things, this guys are on a power trip and crazy
  • “Get me your license and registration sir.” reaches for documents “What are you reaching around for? You got guns? Turn off your vehicle!” reaches for key “Why are you reaching around? Undo your seatbelt!” reaches for seatbelt “Stop reaching around!”
  • When I went through the police academy, the instructors always told us, “Laws are made to protect police officers.” It was detestable then and just as detestable now. I thank God I was smart enough to throw that career in the trash.

 

  • They asked him for his license, registration, proof of registration. Then accused him of reaching for something! If they are that terrified of a guy in that situation they should find another line of work!

 

  • I hate seeing this happen to people. I have been pulled over a few times in my life and each time I get extremely nervous and get a bad adrenaline rush. So much so that isn’t visible to the officers and I have been asked “why are you so nervous” it’s one of the most terrifying questions I have ever been asked by a police officer and even though I didn’t have anything to hide I still couldn’t explain to an officer why I was freaking out so bad, and IM WHITE, and I grew up with a father for a cop. If this is how I feel during a traffic stop then I can’t even begin to image how people of minorities, or other races feel during police interactions. My heart goes out to you and I truly hope that the police in this country get a serious reconstruction because this system is messed up.
  • “We’re looking for guns and narcotics” “you pulled me over for guns and narcotics?” “No” lol these corrupt cops are something else
  • “Roll your window updown.” “You got your license and registration? Why you reaching around all crazy?” Can’t even go 15 seconds into the encounter without cops doing things to intentionally confuse the citizen so they can make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

  • “Your not in any kind of trouble”
  • immediately cuff’s him, searches him, calls the drug dog, rips apart the car searching everything Yup, no trouble at all.
  • “You’re making me nervous” -the fully armed and armored person with another identically outfitted guy on his side talking to the unarmed guy he just detained for “reaching around” after being asked for his registration.
  • “You’re making me nervous” -the fully armed and armored person with another identically outfitted guy on his side talking to the unarmed guy he just detained for “reaching around” after being asked for his registration.
  • “he was acting weird” “I smelled drugs” Got to love the many completely unprovable claims cops can make to just trample over your rights.
    • It’s much easier to jump to conclusions when one already has a preconceived notion, as these LEOs have demonstrated It is the basis of prejudice.
    • Statements made with probable deniability gives them an out.
    • exactly and these ridiculous laws that give them discretion that clearly violates citizens rights
  • You know what also separates the community from law enforcement? Standing around while an active shooter runs through an elementary school, attack parents who want to get their kids, and then troopers get on the news and try to justify those actions.
  • this encounter hasn’t “tainted his view towards police officers”. It has set it straight, once and for all.
This guy is a lawyer’s dream client. Asserts his rights, remains calm and refuses to answer questions. Well done sir.
They badgered him from the start, he didn’t know which way was up or down but managed to keep calm.
 @kareem Spaulding  I’m so sorry you went through this, but I know I not alone in my admiration of you; the way you handled these fucks – and especially the way you handled yourself – would take some serious strength, self-control, and a calm and knowledgeable mind.
 @Calamity  it come from experience and knowledge
 @kareem Spaulding  It’s sad that you’ve had to build these abilities. I hope at least this turns out for you

 

 

The cop literally told him to roll his window up, then down, then all the windows down, and he complied with every demand. Then asked for license and registration and he went to get them and they say “he was reaching around and acting nervous”… Then the cop admitted to what there real intent was for the stop. This is a slam dunk violation of this man’s constitutional rights. The worst part is the cops legitimately believe they were in the right, even with it all ve recorded. Not even unbelievable anymore either, and that’s just f’ing sad.
  • Actually it’s not technically. The police are allowed to lie it’s some stupid Supreme Court case (yes unconstitutional but in America gov can do whatever they wat )
  • Don’t forget that the cop (I’ll edit the timestamp in) admitted that Spalding’s refusal to answer questions played a part in his decision to search the car. That’s a violation of his fifth amendment rights.
  • Edit: it’s at 6:55
  • Police officers are not allowed to tell any lie they want! They are limited by situation, purpose, and even permission.
  •  @Matt Boyd  First, Fourth and Fifth Amendment Rights were Violated.
  • When i was homeless i was sleeping outside in the cold winter. A cop wake me up with a kick in the ribs, told me gtfo or he would break my legs, then i get up to leave and the other cop threw me on the groud because i was “fleeing the scene”.
  • I don’t get pulled over often. But when I do I clearly explain that I’m carrying a firearm on my body and that I have another in my center console immediately. Sometimes the officer is cool with it. I have had a couple that were extremely nervous that made me nervous. Also had a cop draw down on me when I told them I was armed.
  • I don’t always agree with your conclusions, but yeah, you are spot on with this one. Those are bad cops, through and through, and they bring a dark stain upon the badge.
  • “I’m being straight-up with you” says cop, in the middle of lying, while under the protection of being able to lie as a legal tactic.
  • I’m starting to see the pattern now. Approach vehicle….start throwing out multiple commands as fast as possible. This throws the subject off balance. The suspect starts to get more and more nervous. They get more apprehensive. This reinforces the cops justification to yank them out of the car because the suspect can’t rationally follow the string of commands being spat at them. This is by design. THIS is what needs to change. The police know how to illicit the responses they need to invade however they want. Tag team commands also over complicate. One issues a command, suspect starts to obey, second cop issues conflicting order right after. This gives the illusion of failing to comply. “License and registration”…suspect begins to reach….second cop “What are you reaching around for?” BANG! suspicion achievement unlocked. This is a routine that these two cops have rehearsed and executed for a LONG time.
  • I’ve always found it interesting how using a K9 to get probable cause to search a car is admissible even if the average in-field performance drops to 57% accuracy.
  • If he gets scared when people reach for the documents he asked for, he is a danger to people and unfit for the job.
    • It’s a game. He is reading a script to the microphone. He can say later he was worried, and his proof is his own recorded comments.
    • They all say that in almost every single interaction police have they say, “Im scared, for my saftey,” etc, its a part of the game they play.
  • Except it is video recorded. If I filmed an empty parking lot and said see that red car drive by? And there is no red car a judge or anyone would see my words do not match the action I am describing. If the officer is nervous about a man complying and doing nothing weird or wrong then he does not need to be a cop. That is like a firefighter afraid to go in the fire…uncalled for and until everyone presses charges/files complaints it will continue. We know there are good policemen but the that doesn’t mean we can ignore the bad ones.

 

  •  @Shelley Mackey Spence  I think we all know the cop was never once nervous during the whole encounter. There’s no need to explain the irony of a nervous cop. It’s clearly all word games for the camera to justify his dirty actions.

 

  • God I’m so disgusted by this. At what point do we fight back against these unlawful detentions? I want so badly to start seeing people defend themselves from being accosted like this. These cops deserve to lose their jobs, or allowed to continue them long enough for someone to humiliate, assault, terrify, and harass them.
  • When law enforcement says that you are not in trouble while continuing to find a reason to escalate it you know you’re in trouble, handled perfectly by this gentleman IMHO and the ticket was likely retaliatory when he could have just as easily have issued a couple of warnings and as for the court system it’s been corrupted beyond belief from the founders intentions by tyrannical leadership currently in full force in our nation.
  • I’m extremely happy that you went over the problems of using a dog to escalate the stop! As a dog Trainer myself I’ve been saying this for years
  • as a supporter of good LEOS, there just continues to be a failure of common sense of how much better these situations could go without them instantly escalating every single situation.
  • Drug dogs are just a way to bypass reasonable suspicion and perform illegal searches.
  • I was harassed by deputies at my home when someone called police on me for no reason. I believe they had body cams. When I talked to lawyers , they refused to take my case saying they don’t want to get in fight with local sheriff office even they acknowledged that they don’t wrong to me. My question is how I can start process for those cops to get justice and bring them in courts ?
  • The man was caught very off guard, as a motor vehicle driver every time you plan to go out, you must rehearse your lines, lol… / like yeah judge Jonathan Kurlnad told me to carry my docs in my visor, LMAO their faces priceless…
  •  @Tom Orr  Dude do you fucking live in the same world we do? As soon as those cops got out and approached from both sides at once I was terrified for this man. They behaved like predators from zero, escalating at every opportunity until they had him out of the car and on the sidewalk.
  • “Is there anything illegal in the car?” This is a trap because there’s no correct answer. Remaining silent causes the police to become concerned. If the man answered “Yes” that would obviously cause the police to be concerned also. And answering “No” would clearly be cause for concern that he may be lying.
  • I’ve been in this situation before. Multiple cops start asking you questions so fast you can’t answer and give you conflicting orders. The goal is to keep you off balance and make sure that no matter what you do, you’re refusing to answer questions or comply with their orders so they can escalate the situation.
If “acting funny” is probable cause, then every cop in America should be under suspicion of committing a crime
  • The very escalation into a search for two minor traffic infractions is one of the many reasons he was nervous and distrustful. It amazes me how a person, who is already fearful and suspicious of cops’ motives, is told to relax, don’t be afraid. B.S.! This whole interaction emphasizes why we don’t trust you.
  • We’re just gonna ignore he fact that the one officer said he was gonna arrest him for merely having “sovereign citizen” literature in his car? This officer is a dangerous tyrant.
  • The cops had to show him who has the most power. They always got to show their strength.
  • It’s absolutely amazing that cops routinely say things that amount to “you have rights, but if you use them then we will do X.” If you can’t freely use your rights they are not rights…Sadly this conservative Supreme Court has mangled the case law so much that a cop really has to say and do something dumb to not have legal grounds to do almost anything. Fortunately, there are some very stupid cops who can’t even stay within the bounds of a standard that already grants them such wide latitude.
  1. It’s absolutely insane to me how the Police are the ones acting scared, lying to incriminate a innocent man, and immediately come to the car and claim HE is the one acting strange.
  • Being “nervous” is completely up to their discretion. I can’t understand how they think that’s legal. They live talking about their safety, but will pull you over on a 70mph roadway with speeding traffic, 2 in away for a minor headlight or equip violation.
  • Can a citizen who is stopped use the, “I feared for my life,” and the, “I had to make a split-second decision,” defenses?
  • police always say “There is no reason for you to be acting like this” when they are the ones acting all insane “ROLL THE WINDOW UP ROLL IT DOWN”
  • These cops were extremely aggressive right from the start, it was mostly a fishing expedition and a very terrifying one at that.

 

  • “I just want to record this” “That’s fine” immediately takes the phone out of his hand to prevent him from recording. Cops are scum.
  • 1:30: How can a cop approach someone like this cop did and then dare to act like it’s weird that he seems nervous? You have him cornered and surrounded, and in the first minute of the encounter you’ve already given him 6 different orders, some of them conflicting with each other. Several of the orders were barked at him repeatedly before he could even process what you’d said. The way you’re speaking would make anyone nervous even if you weren’t carrying a gun and wearing an “I can get away with anything” costume.
  • Not answering questions gets these freak cops nervous and ready to claim “uncooperative” what a bunch of BS
  • When the first cop said “I’m going to read him”, that means he intended to read Mr Spalding his Miranda Rights and potentially place him under arrest – with no justification or reasonable suspicion whatsoever. We need to eliminate qualified immunity yesterday.
  • This same thing happened to me. I actually refused to reach for anything cause I could see one officer was nervous and twitchy with his hands on his gun. I was pulled over for expired temp tags. Ended up getting the car towed cause I wouldn’t consent to a search of the car.
  • He should said “I want my ticket for speeding and illegal lane change”, and said nothing else. As soon as he gets the tickets the stop is over by law. Anything else after that not be held against him as he was detained after the main reason for the stop.
  • I saw this a while ago on another channel and it made my blood boil. The only person acting funny is the drivers side cop with how jumpy he is and blurting out all kinds of orders and questions. I couldn’t believe how much the drivers side officer was intentionally trying to escalate the situation.
  • I know it was going bad from jump when the cops wanted him to roll down ALL his windows. The guy also needs to bone up on his rights. He has a basic idea; but needs to be educate himself more.
  • “You switched lanes in the intersection & were going 51 in a 35, but I don’t want to give you tickets.” Translates to “I’m copsplaining for the camera because I’m about to violate your constitutional rights and or slap you with some false charges after conducting an illegal search.”
  • “I would just finish the ticket, and call it a day.” In other words he’s saying, “Damn, sucks we couldn’t find anything to stick him with, so let’s just let this one go!
  • 6:50 Just because you don’t exercise your constitutional right not to self incriminate doesn’t mean others can’t. Police officers are so sensitive that anytime someone does not answer questions, they take that as resisting/combative.

 

  • love how cops will pull loop holes with dogs when denied consent. “can I search your car?” no “fuck you I’m gonna get a dog that’s trained to receive treats when it sits next to cars or on command with documented 80% failure rates so I can do it anyway.”

 

  • When the cop says “if someone pulled me over id say no theres nothing illegal” what this cop doesnt understand is he would never be stopped under the same pretenses as he stopped this man for. You can tell this guy being “weird”is him not wanting to give up his rights cause he went from 0 to losing in a matter of seconds with these cops. And they treat citizens like this multiple times on a daily basis across the nation. time4change
  • It blows my mind dogs alert is legal. It is so damn easy to have the dog alert and they keep no stats on how often drugs weren’t found. It is just a super easy loophole for cops to violate your rights.
  • The officer ADMITTED he was looking for guns and drugs and that was the reason for the stop. I’ll bet when his (edit: CIVIL) attorney gets going on this, the city’s own street cameras will show he never did anything wrong to be stopped in the first place.
  • They’d pull the “why are you nervous?!” Shit on me when I was a 16 year old kid and I thought the worst thing was they could give me a ticket. I’d literally be scared of getting a ticket and they’re flipping the fuck out like this. Then I had a Halloween mask in my trunk from Halloween so I’m “robbing houses” like where do they make these leaps. Oh I also forgot I had a fishing tackle box (full of roadside safety things like flares and all the shit they tell you that you need in drivers Ed) and that makes me a drug dealer. Cuz apparently drug dealers keep tackleboxes in their cars? I mean what kind of mental gymnastics do they need to do to make leaps like that? “There’s no reason for you to act like this” well normal people don’t do well with just being yanked out of their car and manhandled. And I don’t wanna say racist but I feel like that would’ve been less likely if he was white. I pass for white but when I was younger you could tell I was Hispanic. And I’d be in the passenger seat with my white friend (who was a total idiot and troublemaker btw) and I’d be polite saying yes sir no sir to them. And he’d be talking to them like they’re the biggest idiots wasting his time. And they’d fuck with ME! Meanwhile he’s the driver and they’re being so nice to him. My other friend she had the exact same experience too. So I also learned just talk to them like they’re idiots. The one time I did that they let me go with a warning. All the other times they’d see how much they could fuck with me.
  • My goodness these cops escalate quickly. Far too quickly for a reasonable person to follow instructions. They to go “you are making me nervous” way too quickly.
  • I think that if a cop conducts a search because he “smelled” contraband, saw shake, a dog alerted or stuff like that and nothing is found there should be consequences, and they should be open up to Constitutional violations. Because if they claim to detect these things and none us found that kinda suggests a lie or manipulation of the situation to get a search, doesn’t it?
  • Officer also stated that as long as he is made waiting for the dog he’s going to be writing tickets. Since it could take awhile for a dog to arrive it is fair that this is a threat of false tickets being written during this scare tactic!!!
  • The fact that you appear to have an unending supply of these types of police encounters makes me think your police in America are corrupt and unworthy of the role of police officer.
  • And of course officers faced no consequences for doing this and went on to continue to do it in the future without being challenged. This is the kind of degrading treatment people face constantly especially minorities by racist cops who interpret anything a minority might do as suspicious.
  • A neighbor of mine is a state trooper. He has his DRE certification – Drug Recognition Expert. Every driver that pisses him off gets his light in their eyes. Then they get arrested for being under the influence of opioids because when you’re under the influence of opioids your pupils constrict. Even though he KNOWS the light constricts their pupils he arrests them anyway and swears in court that their pupils were constricted and that’s a sign of opioid use. Never piss off a cop. They have 1000 ways to violate your rights and they will do it in a second!
  • Based on that guys reaction to all this, I suspect this is not the first time it’s happened.
  • A total fishing expedition. And their actions show just that! Hopefully one day law enforcement will be he’d to the same standards that the citizens are held to.
  • Soon as the officer talked about roll the windows all the way down I already knew what type of situation this was about to be. You don’t legally have to do that. There’s no laws that require you to roll all the windows down without reasonable suspicion
  • Don’t forget about that inhuman tactic of making people sit on the ground.
  • What continues to baffle me is how police can do this sort of thing, then pretend to be surprised that people don’t trust them and believe police are going to harm them or trump up false charges no matter what they say or do. If police really are that unaware of the direct consequences of their own actions, then it’s an active public danger to give them weapons and permission to use them.
  • Sadly, both of these officers were doing precisely what they’ve been trained to do in accordance with departmental policy. So much for “justice” in America.
  • In California, you can switch lanes in the middle of an intersection. I found that out when I went to traffic school several decades ago.
  • This is reminds me of the Orlando in the 80s when the cops were out of control and the cops were planting evidence on people and in their property also once they got you charged with something within months they were arrested again and again when most people get pulled over they get nervous and or upset either with the cops or themselves

“Fruits of the Poisonous Tree”

As a retired Police Officer, I can tell you that the speeding citation will be tossed. I don’t care about his “well calibrated” Police cruiser, because you’re still required to pace the speeding vehicle at least one mile without losing or gaining distance. I heard a Judge once ask a state Trooper who tried to pull this stunt,;
“you’re telling the court…. with your calibrated eyeballs you clocked him at this rate of speed?!”

From the aggressive bullying by these officers, I’m fairly sure that the pacing did not happen. Improper Lane change in the intersection? Their PC for stopping this man is suspect at best.

This foolishness of pulling people over just because you can is dangerous! This traffic stop is pregnant for a disaster. He could have shot them or vice-versa.

 

  • Mandatory body cams have proven to be a huge leap in justice. It tends to work against law enforcement
  • I have been saying since forever that it is the GRAY area of the law that allows officers to continue to be corrupt and downright dishonest and abusing rights over and over,he SHOULD be allowed to sue the individual officers and not the system as these officers should be held accountable for their actions and not hide behind their badge.
  • I hope he sues…. They can’t extend the stop to wait for a dog.
  • What happened to traffic stops, that actually have to deal with traffic. You get pulled over, cop tells you why he stopped you, ask you for your information, run a check, give you back you property, and send you on your way. No one gets threatened, injured, or worse, killed, because of over zealous cops. This is so much more than just a traffic stop.
  • I like how saying “I’m not answering questions” is seen as suspicious so they call the K-9 unit even tho the right to remain silent can’t be seen as incriminating
  • “ We want to make sure we go home safely. That’s the key to this whole thing”. Obviously doesn’t matter if the school children don’t go home safely, you bunch of cowards.

 

  • okay so when he says he’s looking for narcotics and fire arms my interpretation was he’s not worried about ticketing minor offenses. obviously you’d judge someone you pull over and if you suspect more you go from there. therefore that’s not pretext
Oh sad to see this so close to home. I live no more than 15 minutes from where this happened
These new cameras that people have in their cars on the rear view mirror will catch a lot of predatory cops. Taking the cell phones away won’t prevent people from recording once these become common.

Wow, they are intentionally escalating everything they possibly can. They are playing, I’m the Good Guy, and I’m Your Friend. Neither is true. This is a guy with power, and he knows how to use it, so he’s going to twist everything he can, to get what he wants. You have no rights while this guy is near you, and I would imagine police hq would agree with that, and with everything he does.

The driver has every reason to be scared of these guys, and yes, they have guns, and it’s takes a second to have that gun out, and killing you. So, the fact that it isn’t in their hand means nothing at all. Just the fact that cops are still acting like this, after everything that has happened in the last few years, is really a problem.

They are actually using the fact, that anyone would be nervous of cops as reason to invade your privacy, and do what they want, in the guise of your being suspicious, because your nervous. Like anyone can really stay completely calm around cops acting like they are. It’s a really shady way to do justice.

The ones actually acting suspicious, are the cops. They are screaming, Don’t Trust Us!!!

This was a fishing expedition, like most police stops like this. They do their best to Escalate anything they can, to give you a ticket, or take you to jail. Either way, they want you feeding money into the system, to fight the system. They want to get you in front of a judge. Nothing else matters, because police do no wrongs, and they never lie.

 

  • Seems you need to learn how to hand your licence and registration to a cop without actually physically handing your licence and registration to them, in case it scares them……
  • So tough these cops are. Now imagine if they can be that tough in an active shooter scenario.
  • If a police dog is brought in and alerts on your vehicle, leading to a search: should the car owner request/demand to told the dogs name, tag number etc to aid in later understanding if that specific dog was trained and certified?
  • A LARGE percentage of officers these days break the very laws they enforce. It’s sickening and “things” have to change !!!

Sadly, talking to lawyers this is EXTREMELY common. Where cops will try to delay something as much as possible to get a drug dog out there to harass someone.
What they told me is if something like that happens. Tell the officer “am I free to go”, and “I do not consent to stay here longer than a reasonable time for you to do your investigation.” Another is if they say you’re not free to go, say “please tell me when I’m free to go so I can leave. Thank you” Basically, it shows you didn’t voluntary stay there longer than needed for a normal traffic stop. It is likely, if he brought it to court with this body cam and a good lawyer. He wouldn’t have to pay a dime, and he could’ve sued for the extended time being stuck there.

From what they told me, if they pull a I smell x. You say, “can you prove in court that you smell x?” They might get PO, but basically it signals that won’t fly in court. They will most likely try to pull a drug dog, and mention “your lawyer will pull up the record of the drug dog training, and all officers involved.” Like they and others will pull BS that saying that forces them to do it. But in reality, by the time they are pulling a stunt with a drug dog or threatening it. They are going to do it no matter what you say, and fear of it not being held up in court is the only way to get them to back down.

#1: I’ll help you- the young Black man (that’s what this is all about) gets an A+++ as he did what a Judge (a relative of mine) told us to do: keep your hands on the wheel or up in plain sight, no movements unless asked to do so, simply ask why you’re being stopped, try to remain calm, let the cops know you’re going to exercise your rights, & that you don’t consent to any searches or seizures. Despite clearly doing this, he is assaulted, handcuffed, harassed, & subject to numerous rights violations during this course of racial profiling.
#2: This is the modus operandi for these cops (seen it & been thru it enough myself) and they clearly stated what their real intentions where while they used the plethora of tricks afforded them by the Courts.
#3: I thought this was going to be another young Black man murdered by cops during a traffic stop for nothing. IF you couldn’t tell, the young man was literally frightened for his life. He was confused by what they really wanted from him/their actions. Their approach, tone, & attitude let him know that “road piracy” wasn’t what this was all about. He did NOT know if he would survive this encounter.
#4: He probably can’t afford a $750/hour attorney (if he could find one) & how many of us can? He paid the ticket as he wanted to be through with this system as much as anything else. Besides, the Courts ain’t gonna listen to him even if these 2 regularly planted drugs on innocent citizens. Period.
#5: He is permanently scarred by this treatment from “those sworn to serve and protect” & will do his best to avoid them forever.

Oh, but the system loses as well. He will return to his community & add his fear and humiliation to that of his community which will continue to not trust law enforcement (exactly why should they?).

So, forget about expecting virtually any cooperation when law enforcement needs help from them.

  • Why anyone would believe that this type of “law enforcement” is either fair, okay, or sustainable is beyond me. People are beyond tired of this crap…..

 

  • I find it disappointing that when a person doesn’t jump through their hoops in assisting the officers in finding evidence to arrest them on, and politely says they won’t answer questions: the officers assume he’s some “extremist sovern citizen”.

 

  • I’ve encountered cops talking to me like that, too, except for the narcotics stuff.

 

  • ”You are not in trouble” but by jove, we are gonna make damn sure you are, if we can get our hands on you. It’s no wonder people get nervous when they get approaches by police, all over the world in these times.
  • “The blame cannot be solely placed on these officers. As the current legal framework surrounding traffic stops allows for, and often legitimizes conduct such as this.” Well stated. And watching these cops come up and immediately start with the “you’re acting strange” nonsense, makes one sick to their stomach.
  • Very common in Florida. These cops drive around looking for “narcotics and firearms” and they have no problem fabricating traffic infractions to initiate a stop. Happened to me many, many times. These particular cops were particularly polite, I’ve had them yelling and spitting in my face, threatening to plant drugs, and taking down my personal info telling me I’d better watch out, etc. The Supreme Court erred when they ruled that a dog’s nose on the exterior of a vehicle granted probable cause to search the interior of a vehicle. Hopefully one day it will be overturned, especially considering the dogs are about as reliable as a coin flip.
  • Of course, the dog had a positive reaction! Dogs always have a positive reaction, that’s how police get around the 4th amendment protections. I am frankly surprised that the cops didn’t plant any drugs so that the dog hit would make sense!

 

  • Unfortunately in my experience in 33 years of driving this is a normal traffic stop in the United States of America and I have driven in 26 of those States
  • Every single time you tell a cop you’re recording their answer is always “okay we’re recording too.” Somehow their footage always goes missing…
  • It still staggers me that officers are surprised that people are nervous around them and don’t trust them. Can it really be a shock when they treat people like this? Don’t they realise that this behaviour makes their job harder in the first place??
I am a man who believes in the law and the reasonability of everybody following the same rules as everyone else. Officers like these ones, who removed a man from his car, searched him, and put him under a threat of arrest because “hes shakey” makes me very sick.
these officers are nuts. i defend officer conduct on a daily basis, and do my best to be fair and honest in each occurance. When i see officers like this, it rips all the good that can come from law enforcement, and i hate the way officers like these treat that lawbook like their own personal strong arm.
  • They openly admitted that they were looking for any excuse to pull him over so they can look for drugs. he came right and said that they arent interested in enforcing traffic laws they just wanna find drugs and guns
  • Wish he didn’t open his car door. I don’t know why they just panicked when he did that. It just all of a sudden caused this whole thing.
Based on how the video plays out, they didnt even use the ticket to extend the stop in any way that would be reasonable.
They didnt even start the process of writing the ticket until AFTER the search was over and the ticket was handed out as punishment for using his 5th ammendment rights.
That’s why it is very important to have a body,dash camera,& gps to record evidence against police making false claims
These “officers” were behaving exactly how they were trained to behave and doing exactly what the department expects them to do. We are living in a police state and “we the People” need to end it. Hold these agencies to account and dismiss the abusive leadership and rank and file. We pay these people to do a difficult job and we should expect them to do it well or don’t do it at all.
  • Officer basically said “ You see how using your rights make us nervous?”
  • my favorite part in this was when mr spalding {sorry if I misspelled it} says im gonna start recording and the cops were like nope in handcuffs u go smh record the police if they start acting shady this is how we make them responsible.
  • A good friend of mine has been training police dogs for 40 years. He said it’s a well known open secret that the dogs are trained to give false alerts with subtle commands.
    • One cop faces away and the other blocks his camera with the door at the point the dog signals. Presumably the dog handler doesn’t have a camera. Whole thing looks like a setup.
    • Anyone who has ever owned a dog knows this. Sure, they can find the baggie in the practice yard. But they get treats and make their masters happy, when they alert. It’s not hard to figure out this is just a game they use to get around the search and seizure laws.
  • DO NOT give law enforcement officers permission to go into your vehicle – to search or to retrieve your driver’s license, registration, or proof of insurance. They can plant things in your vehicle.
  • 7:48 There is no such thing as a “well-trained narcotics-detection dog”. Its as accurate as a coin flip
  • 3:10 – I won’t give you a speeding ticket if we can find some firearms or narcotics. This cop would really suck at Let’s Make A Deal. He’s also an oath breaking punk.
  • There should never be a situation where an American citizen is stopped for a minor traffic violation and the police escalate the stop into multiple made up charges. Our legislators need to stop this highway piracy. American citizens shouldn’t lose all the rights when they drive and have to live in fear.
  • “I’m thinking sovereign citizen.” that tells you exactly what this police department thing of the bill of rights
“The dog alerted because he paused.” Pausing to smell isn’t an alert, but most judges and lawyers don’t know shit about dog training.
  • First off, having to roll all the windows down so the cops can see if there’s anyone else in there and the first question they ask is “do you have any guns in the car?” says a lot about how fucked up the country is. Then the cops says the most important thing is that everyone goes home safely – FROM A STOP FOR CHANGING LANES IN AN INTERSECTION. In no other civilisied country would that even get a mention nor would the driver be handcuffed before being placed under arrest for something they’d done.
  • $197 because they have to write a ticket in order to wait for a drug dog, according to SCOTUS precedent. The officers’ behavior was disgusting, but it’s a combination of policing culture and case law that screwed this guy over. Asking him why he’s so nervous is especially disgusting to me. “Why are you shaking? It’s incredibly suspicious.” “Uhhhhh because I’m thinking that I might die from this.”

 

  • All citizens need to learn how to return the assertions of cops back on them. “You’re acting pretty funny too officer. What are you reaching for officer? I don’t know, are you behaving like a normal person during this encounter or do you not concern yourself with your own behaviors?”

 

  • Notice the cop when he asked him to step out of the car he grabbed his arm, then grabbed his phone to stop him from recording at the 1:451:46 mark. I have a few questions: do they make inside car cameras that record the inside of the car from multiple angles that will capture a cop if they try to plant evidence in your car? Also how can you tell if a cop body camera is on?
  • They had basic understanding of Constitution; instead of abiding the law, they manipulated the situation to violate citizen. So typical.
  • Laws that hold authority accountable are only valid if the citizens have the means to hold authority accountable.
  • That is sad. He seems like a legit nice guy and those cops were “pretending” to be cool but were far from it. I hope he does Sue them if nothing else to bring this to light. Thanks for another well done video❤️
  • How do these cops go back to their family and kids at night knowing that they themselves have committed a crime the same day ( and likely everyday) Horrible ☠️
  • As a police officer of eight years, I always appreciate your videos
  • Key to this video, cops believe the 5th Amendment is an admission of guilt or wrongdoing.
  • Police lie so often that is becomes habitual and feels perfectly natural to them.I cringe whenever I hear Police saying “Stop Resisting” when the video clearly shows that there is no resisting going on.
  • Why would you say his view was tainted? These officers are the product of their system. His view is perfectly aligned now with what the system wants to enforce: never talk to cops, never help, never ask for help, never engage with them outside the presence of your attorney.
  • Are records kept by any given police department that keep track of how many times a K-9 unit alerts, but nothing is found? THAT would be most interesting to research.
  • Cop “Your acting all nervous, reaching around, rolling up your windows..” Later same cop “You’re making me nervous.”
  • I found it rich when at the 2:01 mark the cop says “You’re not in trouble right now, you’re acting funny man. There’s no reason for you to act like this”. I respectfully disagree. If I were a young black man and two armed government sponsored gang members stopped me and immediately ordered me out of the car to prevent me from recording I would be nervous also. I thought that the young man was better than I would have been. He was told to roll down all of his windows and he complied immediately. I would have not complied and keep my doors locked. But, I am white and old. So, they wouldn’t have done the same thing to me I don’t think. In any event, this was racist as sure as I am sitting here. I guarantee if that was a young, pretty white girl with a big smile this wouldn’t have happened like this. Not in a million years. FTP now and forever. They truly earn every bit of the disdain, contempt, and hate that they get from the public.
  • We all know who these officers are serving in these situations, but who exactly do they think they’re “protecting”?
  • The sad part is that this abuse of power is so common, that Black ppl rarely see treatment like this as anything but racism. The laws that protect poor performance from cops is a problem. Mr. Spaulding did an excellent job of legally advocating for himself. Stops like these create resentment towards police.
  • Traffic stops are not used in the interest of safety, they are always a pretext for racist harassment. If the government was interested in the safety of its citizens it would have the roads designed to be safe, not selectively punish people for minor traffic violations.
  • This video just infuriates me….this is THE definition of a pre textual stop…..this driver was absolutely mistreated and the only reason the cop didn’t catch an a$$ whoopin is because he IS a cop…..disgusting law enforcement overreach
  • We are only a little way in and we already know what kind of person this cop is. If you say something about them having guns and the cop replies “do you see a gun in my hand?” You know you are in trouble.
  • Got pulled over by Everett Washington cops for doing 35.2mph in a 35mph zone. They had me in cuffs sitting on the street corner and they searched my truck and found nothing. Took it to court and got the $150 speeding ticket dismissed but I still had to pay $50 for the court fee to fight the ticket. Same cop pulled me over again for my window tint. It’s the factory tint. Gave me a $100 some odd dollar ticket for window tint and took it to court again and won but again, I had to pay another $50 for court fee to fight the ticket.

 

  • Well, this is why the guy was nervous. He had a feeling that the cops were not stopping him because of a traffic violation, they were just seeing a dude and were hoping for finding something in his car. Because of these cases, pretty much everyone becomes nervous when a cop talks to them.
    • And the likelyhood that the cops were going to create some bs and charge him with something no matter what.
    • Or, worse, planting something in the vehicle in a manner that the bodycam cannot view.
  • I’m surprised that I’m not seeing comments about the fact that one of the cops wanted to arrest him for being a “sovereign citizen” despite the fact that he didn’t use any of their talking points! He simply gave minimal comments and invoked his right to remain silent.

 

  • Cops make people nervous regardless if they have done anything or not. That should not be a reason to elevate a routine traffic stop to searching the car. I don’t blame the guy for it answering questions because they try to entrap you with those questions. Why is there more pressure on the person to be perfect at a traffic stop when the officer has the training and should know the law?
  • It saddens me to hear that towns like Uvalde are spending 40% of their budget on policing and the police end up not doing anything to prevent crimes.

 

  • You’re exactly right! This is a good example of why cops are hated. Also, I absolutely HATE that a dog can give cause to have a car searched.
  • The speeding ticket requires that the officer produce the Certifications necessary to get the speed measuring device used as admissible evidence. However, the lane change observation only requires the officer to testify under oath that what he believes he saw was a unauthorized or unnecessary move by the gentleman. In that case there is no requirement that the officer film this encounter to determine whether what he claims he saw was in fact what happened. This thin, non existent thread of evidence gives those in authority a license to ‘steal’. So, back to my first point, just who profits from the $197.00 paid by the gentleman? How is that bounty divided up?Did the dog get anything, maybe a tasty meaty bone to chew on? It seems only fair since the police were allowed to sink their teeth, so to speak, into the gentleman’s wallet. And just what average joe, or in this case a young black man, would be able to spend/afford the money to hire an attorney? Last thought, the speeding ticket would have come with points, did the lane change charge carry any points? If the answer is no, see how nice the two officers were, they did not want to see his insurance rates possibly go up, and in that case the gentleman might have felt it necessary to contest the claim in court!

 

  • Cop straight up turned the exercise of a right into probable cause. Give him a promotion.
  • Cops: immediately act aggressive, as if he’s a criminal with a gun Also cops: “why are you acting funny?” Disgusting
  • I have advice for everyone. Keep your insurance and registration paperwork in an envelope clipped to the sun visor. This way you don’t need to “go reaching around”. And always have a paper copy, as opposed to an app on your phone. If it’s on your phone you’ll be forced to “reach around” in your pocket to get it, and you’ll have to go digging around in phone to find the app which could show the officer shaking fingers or “cognitive impairment” if you can’t find it quickly. And if it’s on your phone you may need to give the officer your unlocked phone, and if you refuse to hand it over, you are now deemed “uncooperative”. Don‘t give the them an opportunity to develop Probable Cause. Lastly, if you have a dashcam or cameras mounted in the interior DO NOT tell them. Even if they find something minor, if there are any shenanigans committed by the police captured on film the court may not allow your dimebag as evidence.
  • Almost the same thing happened to me in 2018 in Lagrange, Ga. It was ridiculous, and I’ll will always have distrust in police from then on.
  • Best visual demonstration of “driving while Black”. Sad. Disappointing. SCARY. Every abusers’ best excuse, “look what you made me do”.

 

  • Best practices When being pulled over.. Especially when Black 1) Go ahead and roll all windows down ahead of time (So officer can see inside clearly) 2) Have your ID out already. You never want to put your live in some cops hands by reaching around 3) put your hands on the wheel or on the door window so they clearly see your hands Those 3 things will drastically up your chances of avoiding bullshit
  • So it wasn’t just me that noticed the driver wasn’t acting erratically. I can’t speak for everyone else but the way the officers came up to the car and were acting would’ve made me nervous as well. Then when the start assuming you’re a criminal when you know your not I wouldn’t stop talking to them as well. Those two officers are part of the problem and not the solution.
  • i like how cops use peoples fear/anxiety about cops as reasonable suspicion
  • “You’re not in any trouble” while proceeds to pat him down and handcuff him. The excuse that every officer gives that its for their safety as well as yours is bs. You can tell from the moment the officers walked to the car he was nervous af and refuse to answer questions because of what could happen. Safer to be taken to prison than interacting in public. I’d give the guy a ‘B’ to an ‘A-‘, he seemed knowledgeable enough to comply, no consenting to searches, and to remain silent.
  • Sometimes I get turned off by first amendment auditors and their sometimes confrontative nature but after watching something like this, I don’t mind them being confrontative at all.
  • Oh wow. You would have thought this guy just robbed a bank and killed someone. This guy are fishing in the wrong type of water. Why do they think people would be nervous based on their history with certain people during traffic stops.
  • Its amazing that US police are micro managed by the supreme court.
  • THey pulled him over for traffic infractions, when he looks for his information they rip him out of the car and handcuff him. They are supposed to be writing him a ticket for the infractions, and letting him go. But they escalate the situation so they can hold him and delay writing him a ticket, so they can call a K9 to smell for another LARGER charge.
  • These punk cops act like this person did something to harm them I just don’t get it. Why any agency would continue to let cops like this to be employed on the force is beyond comprehension the attitude of these so-called protect and serve people is again beyond comprehension they should be fired immediately

 

  • I’ve had this happen to me, just cruising along I40 minding my own business, then two unmarked vehicles come flying up from nowhere and pulled me over because “they didn’t see me wearing my seat belt”. They asked for license, registration, insurance, the whole spiel, and then asked if I minded if they took a look in my car. I’m not an auditor, I just wanted out of there as soon as possible, and damn sure didn’t want dogs jumping all over my car scratching it up, so I let them look. They gave me a quick pat down, took my little pocket knife for their safety of course, and I stood there with one officer while the two others went through my car front to back. When they didn’t find anything they handed me my knife back, and let me leave without a ticket or so much as a warning, totally weird experience.

 

  • Profiling, unreasonable provocation, inventing reasons to escalate, escalating and entrapment. Criminals in a Halloween uniform with weapons, given way too much power. It’s only a matter of time before they needlessly take someone’s life.

 

  • I saw the whole video and the cops were so pissy about the guy not answering questions that they kept him cuffed, implying that they’d remove them if he answered. The guy remained silent. I get why he didn’t pursue it, not wanting the hassle, but watching the whole thing was infuriating!
  • The cops’ attitude is straight from the 1950s. Rapid fire, contradictory, hyper defensive commands. Unbelievable
  • So a question. If a dog handler and a dog have an abysmal record of accuracy on alerting on a traffic stop at what point is the dog and handler put out of commission? Is there any action you can take if a dog alerts falsely in a court of law for a violation of your 4th amendments?
  • 10:43 – The officer is holding his walkie next to the mic on his body cam so it’s hard to hear what he’s saying.
  • Pretext stops are perfectly legal. However, threatening to write tickets unless consent to search is given, that is HIGHLY illegal.
  • What’s sad is those cops left that scene thinking they did everything right. What’s even sadder is their department will likely watch the video and tell them they did everything right
  • are we just not gonna talk about the sign on that CHURCH’S door? “According to our Church policy and the Bible, it is forbidden for women and young girls to wear pants inside the sanctuary.” …EXCUSE ME?! WHAT? someone PLEASE explain this
  • “You’re not in trouble right now” means you’re in deep god damn shit.
  • Pretty damn sad. Soldiers gave their lives for this citizen their sacrifice was made in vain by those officers
  • They’re doing their job. Intimidating and keeping people in their place.
  • They will keep doing it until they’re held accountable. Shit makes me feel hopeless. Can’t believe this is where we are.
  • this wasn’t the first time they did this. i heard that getting more drug bust increases the chances of a promotion. in the future, i bet they will start “finding” more illegal substances.
  • You’re reaching around, making me nervous.” Yeah, after the LEO asked for his license and registration. Quite the lesson in cop induced escalation. Meanwhile, the driver was completely chill.
  • The cop is reading a script. He wants those words to get recorded, even if the video doesn’t match.
  • and the fact they wrote him a ticket after making him sit through ALL THAT because they were still butthurt he didn’t answer their questions smh
  • I mean, once he literally admits that it’s all a pretext, it’s over for him lol. Always remember, There is no law or infraction so minor that police will not kill you or your child over and then claim officer safety. Kind of like the 19 in Texas who allowed children to be shot at and killed for an hour, while they sat outside for “officer safety”. They even admitted in a press conference that they didn’t go in because they might be shot.
  • I’m always nervous when pulled over by police. The social gap between the areas where they are assigned to is usually big! A good police will inform you of what the pull over is for. Quit taking advantage of people who know or don’t know the law. Help us and stop reaching departments quota
  • Back in the 80’s I was pulled over daily because my girlfriend was white. They would make her get out of the car and they would tell her to go home and keep me there until she was out of sight. I wasn’t speeding or breaking any traffic laws.
  • ‘You have guns and im scared’ ‘Are they in my hands?’ Cool; then by that theory.. you shouldn’t have to cuff the driver because his guns aren’t in his hands..
  • When pulled over #1 lock your doors, #2 put your window not more than half way down — far enough to pass paperwork and communicate, #3 have your paperwork ready before the officer gets to the window, #4 do not hand them your paperwork until they articulate a legitimate reason for the stop, #5 do not open your door or put other windows down all the way. If they ask you to exit the vehicle they must be able to articulate a suspected crime “your acting funny” is not a crime anymore than “you seem nervous”.
  • These cops are very good at double talk and baited words very well rehearsed that’s why they have to cops so that the cooperate the stories along with the bated words and double talk. These guys are dangerous. These are the type of cops you got to know everything about them.
  • I fight every ticket. I won 4 in a row. Half the times the cops didn’t show up. These cops are unlikely to show up in court for a traffic ticket, because they are probably on some narcotics detail. He needed to get the video. Plead innocent. Never plead no contest.
  • The footage is from the bodycam footage of the cops, which was continuously edited, as the breaks are clearly noticeableThe footage did not show the driver’s actual violation, as would have been captured on the cop’s car dashcam… There is not any footage showing anything to the claimed traffic violation… Clearly there is a lawsuit in play, being that we are seeing this on Audit the Audit… The cops violated an array of the driver’s rights, creating false narratives and outright lying… The crooked and racist courts of that jurisdiction will drag the lawsuit… This is police gang behavior, at the expense of taxpayers.
  • I think about all the times my rights were violated when I was younger by local police and didn’t know any better.
  • Prosecutor: if you don’t take the plea, I will pursue maximum sentence. Judge: has anyone threatened you or coerced you into take this plea? Me: yes Judge, the man acting as prosecutor threatened me.
  • My god the gaslighting is insane. They fumble their speech and tell him to do a multitude of things and then accuse him of reach around? Like dude you just told him to get his papers. I hope this guy got paid.
  • im going to be honest if i was stopped by a cop who said he feels nervous with his hand on his gun id be shaking too XD

 

  • Dude was handcuffed sitting on curb and the cop with back up and guns was “nervous”. Duche bag cop you make the world less safe

 

  • He never addressed the fact that the cop open the passenger door before he had any kind of excuse or permission to do so.
  • I noticed that too. Who do they think they are?
  • And people are of the belief that this type of policing works, 1 out of every 30 stops might yield some minor crap, so 29 people were just harassed after you got one with some shakes on the mat. Needs more, this is damaging the relationship the police should have with their employer

 

  • Only thing I hate more than tyrants, are tyrants in training. I recommend, as do all police that I’ve ever met, doing some ride-alongs. They are free, they do a brief background check, and you get to ride shotgun. You can literally witness this garbage first hand on every average day. Just goto the station and ask if you can ride along. You could say you’re interested in the industry, etc. This was a high on himself Narcotics tyrant feeding his new little baby tyrants the routine. They literally have task forces operating and training like this daily, in damn near every city in America, EVERY DAY. When are we going to say enough is enough and let these operators be held accountable by the law they swear an oath to uphold? If you’re a rights respecting American then your argument will always hold up in court. They are allowed to, after the stop, use the legal system to unconstitutionally detain you and your life, until you misstep or they dismiss. Dismissals should reflect negatively on officers and all other agents that detained us in a probationary status of the court system. We have a right to a speedy trial and these offenses should be PENALIZED and prosecutable.
  • I have severe ptsd from dirty cops. They beat me badly causing severe brain damage while I was having a gran mal seizure and not under arrest. They paid off “my” lawfirm to never get video footage. At least I don’t have panic attacks when I see them like I did for years.

 

  • The moment that lawsuit money starts coming out of the police’s salary packets, is the moment that this kind of behaviour is stamped out almost overnight. If a dog gives a false alert 3 times in the space of 12 months, the dog is retired and the handler fired. Bang, no more fake alerts.

 

  • I’m calling BS on the officer’s comments about searching the vehicle or him just telling him where the drugs are. As I have stated previously, I have seen nearly a hundred videos in which dogs dutifully “hit” and zero drugs were found. Maybe, the videos recommended for me are skewed somehow, but I think it more likely that the dogs are utilized improperly and/or are not well trained.
  • seems like the supreme courts are leaning more and more toward law enforcement than the victim regardless of the situation
I defend good police officers because not everyone who is a law enforcement officer is a bad guy, but I hate when I see discrimination. They were essentially trying to use the traffic violations as a bargaining tool. They stated that they were not worried about worried about traffic violations but guns and drugs. I also hate the way police officers use manipulation of the law to their advantage and treat this individual like a criminal when he did not do anything to deserve the behavior that was displayed by there officers. This type of behavior is why some people have a negative view of law enforcement. I know it is time for a change in the ways that officers are allowed to behave in these circumstances. Someone very close to me has a security system with lights and cameras at their home. When I asked him why they need so much security for their house he told me that he didn’t want law enforcement officers to knock his door down and try to steal from him. Can you believe a statement like that? He worries more about police than strangers breaking in. He had his home torn a part in a raid by police for buying a quarter ounce of Marijuana from a known drug dealer. They followed him home, knocked down the door and took everything of value from him including a shoe box with 25 thousand dollars that he had been saving for 10 years to put a down payment on a home. He was never arrested for anything and had money , 2 vehicles confiscated, and his home destroyed for nothing. His court appointed lawyer(they took all his money) said to not fight this & try to get stuff back because the police would put his name on the indictment. He got bad credit from the vehicle sezuire because they were financed. So can you blame him for his attitude?

I get a laugh out of the cops that say, “you’re shaking. Why are you nervous?” Idk, maybe because ARMED men are escalating what should be a routine traffic stop for no other reason to try and pin an actual crime on me.

Seriously, cops like this drive me insane. For the record, I’m a law-abiding citizen and even I’ll admit that I get nervous during traffic stops, even though I know I’m not doing anything wrong. Why? Just because you’re innocent doesn’t mean a cop won’t try anything funny, like planting evidence. It does happen and I actually fear the long-term repercussions of such an action more so than the “in the moment.”

There’s also one more factor to consider. It was very obvious from the search that the “suspect” drives for Uber. I can say this as a former Uber driver. I have had clientele accidentally leave and spill drugs in my vehicle that I didn’t see until the end of the day when I was done driving. What would happen if I was pulled over and they ended up calling a K-9 unit? I would get in trouble for my own clientele’s illegal behavior. I did get pulled over once while driving for Uber and it was an absolute baloney stop. Officer claimed I failed to yield at a stop sign at a right turn and I called him out on it because I HAD to stop. There was oncoming traffic coming from the left and I had to wait for that vehicle to pass through the intersection. Cop let me off with a warning but honestly, if he did site me, I would’ve FOIA’d the dash cam footage and taken it to traffic court. The cop had absolutely nothing. I had a passenger at the time too and she actually felt bad for me because she knew I didn’t do anything wrong either.

  • Even better, get your own dashcam. I don’t even want to be in a situation where I have to go to the police to get information for their own infractions.
  • I understand the officers in this situation were the ones in the wrong, but I do wish people would say, “I’d like to invoke my right to remain silent” (or something of the sort) rather than, “I don’t answer questions” in situations like these.
  • My friend is terrified of the police. She got into trouble when she was younger, that over a decade ago. The because of the bad experiences she had with police in the past, she shakes when she sees the police. When she got into an accident early this, she was shaking when the police came to question her. She did nothing wrong and did not get ticket for the crash. She was shaken the whole day.
  • These cops have a script to a tee. To get people out of the car, dude didn’t do anything wrong at all. What bull. Sniff this
  • Police often use nervousness as evidence of guilt but they induce the nervousness and should appreciate that. They clearly wanted to search his car. Imagine being handcuffed for improperly changing lanes. The dogs always hit, just the same way roadside drug tests often produce unreliable results. All of this stuff stems from our country needing to decriminalize several drugs.
  • Had a similar situation in winter springs fl way back about 2004. Florida is also a no tolerance state. But no open container charge.
  • 1:43, The Police just Committed a Crime. Assault. Assault is Defined as ANY UNWANTED PHYSICAL CONTACT. and they placed their hands on the victim and REMOVED HIM by force from his car because he was NOT permitting the officers to do a UNLAWFUL SEARCH of his Vehicle.

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War on Drugs creates public distrust, racial profiling, lies, and pretextual detentions

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Sources:

United States v. Robinson- https://bit.ly/38DJAau

Whren v. United States- https://bit.ly/3gX0kyJ

Yick Wo v. Hopkins- https://bit.ly/38NBVXY

Personnel Administrator of Massachusetts v. Feeney- https://bit.ly/3kwePdc

Illinois v. Caballes- https://bit.ly/3aYrksV

Rodriguez v. United States- https://bit.ly/2LS1sqc

Michigan v. Defillippo- https://bit.ly/3ycKfNU

Kolender v. Lawson- https://bit.ly/3F5ep7j

Florida v. Harris- https://bit.ly/3y315Pk

Efficacy of drug detection by fully-trained police dogs- https://bit.ly/39yEFez

Court Records (2018-TR-123713-A-O)- https://bit.ly/3FfATm3

 

Original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByoL5

Real World Police’s channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChaE

Comments:

Look at the zeal with which he seeks to find suspicion in an ordinary person’s response to being approached with his level of aggression. Look at how thoroughly his desire to enforce drug busts—which are both profitable and valuable to him as a career move—corrupts his ability to to do his job properly. This entire situation is a ruse to bust someone for drugs. It has no legitimate traffic-enforcement purpose.

 

On top of that, there’s no actual complaint or meaningful indication of drug activity. This cop just pulled over some guy for a common, minor traffic thing and decided to turn his day into a nightmare, on the excuse that he reacted in a totally reasonable way (nervousness, invoking his rights) to a trap the cops manufactured to go fishing. The truth is that it wouldn’t matter how he reacted. They’d find an excuse to run the dog either way. This young man did exactly the right thing by invoking his rights.

 

On the cop’s own word, he doesn’t care about the traffic offenses in the least—even though he should, as traffic control is an important function that protects the public. He also doesn’t care about the rights of private citizens—arguably the most important function of his job—as evidenced by his willingness to play out this pretext to bully people into vehicle searches that contravene the spirit of the Fourth Amendment.

 

  • From :46 seconds to 1:36 the officers give 16 conflicting commands and ask 4 questions without waiting for an answer. This is very reminiscent of the Daniel Shaver murder. Luckily it didn’t play out that way this time.
  • Not only multiple commands, but contradictory commands as well. The cop told him to roll the window UP, then down. The guy literally did exactly what they told him to do, and somehow that is “suspicious”…
  • these tactics are taught. look up “verbal judo” on YouTube. you will find the guy who taught police how to do this, around the country, for decades. this ish is taught!
  • Don’t forget using the threat of issuing a ticket for the original pull over as leverage to progress their agenda.
  • It’s infuriating to watch how these cops use their authority to manipulate every act of compliance by this gentleman into a “suspicious” activity weaponized against him

 

  • “It’s not a big deal”, says the cop, while he’s making it a big deal. “Get your license and registration for me” says the cop who then wonders why the suspect is “reaching around “ for his license and registration.
  • Do you have license and registration, why are you reaching around so crazy?” That reminds me a lot of that video of the guy who was shot dead by the officer that was giving him multiple conflicting orders. “Get on the ground, don’t move, crawl towards me”. Forgot his name but this made me really upset that this officer did almost the same thing, like he was looking for an excuse to paint him as being aggressive to escalate the situation. Such scumbag cops
    • Once the officer accused him of reaching around when he was following the officers request I lost all trust in the officer.
  • As soon as I heard the cops say they were bringing in a drug dog, I knew that the dog would “find” something. Isn’t it amazing how that happens! You can tell that these cops have had practice shaking down people. People like these cops should not be in that job. They are not there to protect and serve, they are only there to serve themselves by playing these games as a way to gain favor from their bosses to advance their career.

I know it sounds extreme, but if the justice system itself won’t fix problems like this, our only peaceful option as individual citizens is to document the abuses and then avoid cities with police like this at all costs. It’s a slow bleed, but it will work. Starve them of taxes, tourism, and fines. Pressure the local government to fix the problem or watch itself gradually turn into a ghost town.

 

  • If any “thin blue line” fanboys are reading this….and still wonder why some of us don’t blindly admire cops…this video is one of the reasons why.

 

  • As a law abiding citizen, I’ve always resented that fact that I feel intimidated every time I see the police, LEO’s need to learn that their job is to protect and serve, it seems these days they’re more concerned with being sneaky and trying to shaft anyone they can because they noticed your brake light burned out before u could.
  • It’s unbelievable how there continues to be all these cops that don’t realize how much they terrify people with their very presence alone.
    • People are terrified for good reason!!! These agents of the state are dangerous!!

 

    • They absolutely realize that they intimidate community members that’s why they do it! They got off on this power trip.
    • I think they know exactly the effect they have on people, they just play dumb and abuse the fact that their victims are nervous and jittery

 

    • There is literally CASE law (I do not know it off hand) that says a little nervousness DURING a traffic stop is PERFECTLY NORMAL.

 

  • Typical copspeak/reaction. I got pulled over on the BW parkway once. As the cop was walking back to his car to run my ID, I yelled to him some pertinent info he needed. He ran back to my car and tried to say I was being aggressive for yelling. Sir, we’re next to a busy roadway, you wouldn’t hear a whisper.

 

  • He complies carefully with all their orders, they guilt-trip him for doing so, then they pull him out of the car without his consent, take away his cell phone after they said he could record, then keep telling him “You’re not in any kind of trouble”, as they handcuff him. Well that’s reassuring, and a great way to treat someone who’s “not in trouble”.

 

  • I can’t put into words how much this makes my blood boil. This could have been anyone here in the comments that it happens to. I do give the victim here an “A” for refusing to answer questions, and sticking to his right to not answer questions. If he follows up with an 18 USC 242 and 18 USC 241 federal lawsuit, I would promote that to an A+ Being nervous or sweating or fidgeting is no grounds for reasonable suspicion during a traffic stop: US V CHAVEZ VALENZUELA.

 

  • Ha, I got stopped a few weeks back, riding on my road bike for not yielding to a cop on a bike stop, coming down a bike trail! Yes, a bike stop, where there are Yield to pedestrians/cyclists signs everywhere. The guy got off his suv pretty aggressive & demanded for an I.D, like I had just ran a red light on a car. He kept demanding for my name or else he was going to write me a ticket, take me to jail & impound my $4,000 road bike. And I had read somewhere that cops can auction off your bike after 24 hours. Next thing I know, I had three cops pull up out of nowhere, one of them wanted to search me, but I did not consent & he backed off. I gave the aggressive cop my name. He goes back to his suv, 5 minutes later, he returned huffing & puffing & told me to, “Get the fu– out of here!”, in a scolding manner. I live like a block away from the local bike trail. I was shook. I’m 6’4 & built like a football player, but this skinny prick had the baseballs to speak to me like a school bully. The badge seems to give these cops a sense of “power” & entitlement. I did talk to a friend who is a lawyer, but since I did not get their name & badge numbers, I had nothing to persue. A month later & i’m still pissed about it. I worked my butt off to buy that bike. I was more scared of these pricks messing with my bike, than I had of going to jail.

 

  •  @Kermit Of War  Start wearing a GoPro when you’re on your bike for multiple reasons. It’s funny how different these clowns act when they know you’re recording them. Record every interaction you have with the Police for your safety and TRUTH, not their version of the event as they lie in their reports.
  • Officer: “I’m not forcing you to answer my questions” also Officer: “Answer my questions or I put you under arrest.”
  • “You got license and registration” “Why are you reaching” Garbage cop should lose his qualified immunity.
  • “I don’t consent to searches” “I dont wanna answer any questions” He’s exercising his rights and then they try to guilt him as if he’s “making them nervous” (the ones with the guns ), gaslight him and act like they arent pushing him on these things, this guys are on a power trip and crazy
  • “Get me your license and registration sir.” reaches for documents “What are you reaching around for? You got guns? Turn off your vehicle!” reaches for key “Why are you reaching around? Undo your seatbelt!” reaches for seatbelt “Stop reaching around!”
  • When I went through the police academy, the instructors always told us, “Laws are made to protect police officers.” It was detestable then and just as detestable now. I thank God I was smart enough to throw that career in the trash.

 

  • They asked him for his license, registration, proof of registration. Then accused him of reaching for something! If they are that terrified of a guy in that situation they should find another line of work!

 

  • I hate seeing this happen to people. I have been pulled over a few times in my life and each time I get extremely nervous and get a bad adrenaline rush. So much so that isn’t visible to the officers and I have been asked “why are you so nervous” it’s one of the most terrifying questions I have ever been asked by a police officer and even though I didn’t have anything to hide I still couldn’t explain to an officer why I was freaking out so bad, and IM WHITE, and I grew up with a father for a cop. If this is how I feel during a traffic stop then I can’t even begin to image how people of minorities, or other races feel during police interactions. My heart goes out to you and I truly hope that the police in this country get a serious reconstruction because this system is messed up.
  • “We’re looking for guns and narcotics” “you pulled me over for guns and narcotics?” “No” lol these corrupt cops are something else
  • “Roll your window updown.” “You got your license and registration? Why you reaching around all crazy?” Can’t even go 15 seconds into the encounter without cops doing things to intentionally confuse the citizen so they can make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

  • “Your not in any kind of trouble”
  • immediately cuff’s him, searches him, calls the drug dog, rips apart the car searching everything Yup, no trouble at all.
  • “You’re making me nervous” -the fully armed and armored person with another identically outfitted guy on his side talking to the unarmed guy he just detained for “reaching around” after being asked for his registration.
  • “You’re making me nervous” -the fully armed and armored person with another identically outfitted guy on his side talking to the unarmed guy he just detained for “reaching around” after being asked for his registration.
  • “he was acting weird” “I smelled drugs” Got to love the many completely unprovable claims cops can make to just trample over your rights.
    • It’s much easier to jump to conclusions when one already has a preconceived notion, as these LEOs have demonstrated It is the basis of prejudice.
    • Statements made with probable deniability gives them an out.
    • exactly and these ridiculous laws that give them discretion that clearly violates citizens rights
  • You know what also separates the community from law enforcement? Standing around while an active shooter runs through an elementary school, attack parents who want to get their kids, and then troopers get on the news and try to justify those actions.
  • this encounter hasn’t “tainted his view towards police officers”. It has set it straight, once and for all.
This guy is a lawyer’s dream client. Asserts his rights, remains calm and refuses to answer questions. Well done sir.
They badgered him from the start, he didn’t know which way was up or down but managed to keep calm.
 @kareem Spaulding  I’m so sorry you went through this, but I know I not alone in my admiration of you; the way you handled these fucks – and especially the way you handled yourself – would take some serious strength, self-control, and a calm and knowledgeable mind.
 @Calamity  it come from experience and knowledge
 @kareem Spaulding  It’s sad that you’ve had to build these abilities. I hope at least this turns out for you

 

 

The cop literally told him to roll his window up, then down, then all the windows down, and he complied with every demand. Then asked for license and registration and he went to get them and they say “he was reaching around and acting nervous”… Then the cop admitted to what there real intent was for the stop. This is a slam dunk violation of this man’s constitutional rights. The worst part is the cops legitimately believe they were in the right, even with it all ve recorded. Not even unbelievable anymore either, and that’s just f’ing sad.
  • Actually it’s not technically. The police are allowed to lie it’s some stupid Supreme Court case (yes unconstitutional but in America gov can do whatever they wat )
  • Don’t forget that the cop (I’ll edit the timestamp in) admitted that Spalding’s refusal to answer questions played a part in his decision to search the car. That’s a violation of his fifth amendment rights.
  • Edit: it’s at 6:55
  • Police officers are not allowed to tell any lie they want! They are limited by situation, purpose, and even permission.
  •  @Matt Boyd  First, Fourth and Fifth Amendment Rights were Violated.
  • When i was homeless i was sleeping outside in the cold winter. A cop wake me up with a kick in the ribs, told me gtfo or he would break my legs, then i get up to leave and the other cop threw me on the groud because i was “fleeing the scene”.
  • I don’t get pulled over often. But when I do I clearly explain that I’m carrying a firearm on my body and that I have another in my center console immediately. Sometimes the officer is cool with it. I have had a couple that were extremely nervous that made me nervous. Also had a cop draw down on me when I told them I was armed.
  • I don’t always agree with your conclusions, but yeah, you are spot on with this one. Those are bad cops, through and through, and they bring a dark stain upon the badge.
  • “I’m being straight-up with you” says cop, in the middle of lying, while under the protection of being able to lie as a legal tactic.
  • I’m starting to see the pattern now. Approach vehicle….start throwing out multiple commands as fast as possible. This throws the subject off balance. The suspect starts to get more and more nervous. They get more apprehensive. This reinforces the cops justification to yank them out of the car because the suspect can’t rationally follow the string of commands being spat at them. This is by design. THIS is what needs to change. The police know how to illicit the responses they need to invade however they want. Tag team commands also over complicate. One issues a command, suspect starts to obey, second cop issues conflicting order right after. This gives the illusion of failing to comply. “License and registration”…suspect begins to reach….second cop “What are you reaching around for?” BANG! suspicion achievement unlocked. This is a routine that these two cops have rehearsed and executed for a LONG time.
  • I’ve always found it interesting how using a K9 to get probable cause to search a car is admissible even if the average in-field performance drops to 57% accuracy.
  • If he gets scared when people reach for the documents he asked for, he is a danger to people and unfit for the job.
    • It’s a game. He is reading a script to the microphone. He can say later he was worried, and his proof is his own recorded comments.
    • They all say that in almost every single interaction police have they say, “Im scared, for my saftey,” etc, its a part of the game they play.
  • Except it is video recorded. If I filmed an empty parking lot and said see that red car drive by? And there is no red car a judge or anyone would see my words do not match the action I am describing. If the officer is nervous about a man complying and doing nothing weird or wrong then he does not need to be a cop. That is like a firefighter afraid to go in the fire…uncalled for and until everyone presses charges/files complaints it will continue. We know there are good policemen but the that doesn’t mean we can ignore the bad ones.

 

  •  @Shelley Mackey Spence  I think we all know the cop was never once nervous during the whole encounter. There’s no need to explain the irony of a nervous cop. It’s clearly all word games for the camera to justify his dirty actions.

 

  • God I’m so disgusted by this. At what point do we fight back against these unlawful detentions? I want so badly to start seeing people defend themselves from being accosted like this. These cops deserve to lose their jobs, or allowed to continue them long enough for someone to humiliate, assault, terrify, and harass them.
  • When law enforcement says that you are not in trouble while continuing to find a reason to escalate it you know you’re in trouble, handled perfectly by this gentleman IMHO and the ticket was likely retaliatory when he could have just as easily have issued a couple of warnings and as for the court system it’s been corrupted beyond belief from the founders intentions by tyrannical leadership currently in full force in our nation.
  • I’m extremely happy that you went over the problems of using a dog to escalate the stop! As a dog Trainer myself I’ve been saying this for years
  • as a supporter of good LEOS, there just continues to be a failure of common sense of how much better these situations could go without them instantly escalating every single situation.
  • Drug dogs are just a way to bypass reasonable suspicion and perform illegal searches.
  • I was harassed by deputies at my home when someone called police on me for no reason. I believe they had body cams. When I talked to lawyers , they refused to take my case saying they don’t want to get in fight with local sheriff office even they acknowledged that they don’t wrong to me. My question is how I can start process for those cops to get justice and bring them in courts ?
  • The man was caught very off guard, as a motor vehicle driver every time you plan to go out, you must rehearse your lines, lol… / like yeah judge Jonathan Kurlnad told me to carry my docs in my visor, LMAO their faces priceless…
  •  @Tom Orr  Dude do you fucking live in the same world we do? As soon as those cops got out and approached from both sides at once I was terrified for this man. They behaved like predators from zero, escalating at every opportunity until they had him out of the car and on the sidewalk.
  • “Is there anything illegal in the car?” This is a trap because there’s no correct answer. Remaining silent causes the police to become concerned. If the man answered “Yes” that would obviously cause the police to be concerned also. And answering “No” would clearly be cause for concern that he may be lying.
  • I’ve been in this situation before. Multiple cops start asking you questions so fast you can’t answer and give you conflicting orders. The goal is to keep you off balance and make sure that no matter what you do, you’re refusing to answer questions or comply with their orders so they can escalate the situation.
If “acting funny” is probable cause, then every cop in America should be under suspicion of committing a crime
  • The very escalation into a search for two minor traffic infractions is one of the many reasons he was nervous and distrustful. It amazes me how a person, who is already fearful and suspicious of cops’ motives, is told to relax, don’t be afraid. B.S.! This whole interaction emphasizes why we don’t trust you.
  • We’re just gonna ignore he fact that the one officer said he was gonna arrest him for merely having “sovereign citizen” literature in his car? This officer is a dangerous tyrant.
  • The cops had to show him who has the most power. They always got to show their strength.
  • It’s absolutely amazing that cops routinely say things that amount to “you have rights, but if you use them then we will do X.” If you can’t freely use your rights they are not rights…Sadly this conservative Supreme Court has mangled the case law so much that a cop really has to say and do something dumb to not have legal grounds to do almost anything. Fortunately, there are some very stupid cops who can’t even stay within the bounds of a standard that already grants them such wide latitude.
  1. It’s absolutely insane to me how the Police are the ones acting scared, lying to incriminate a innocent man, and immediately come to the car and claim HE is the one acting strange.
  • Being “nervous” is completely up to their discretion. I can’t understand how they think that’s legal. They live talking about their safety, but will pull you over on a 70mph roadway with speeding traffic, 2 in away for a minor headlight or equip violation.
  • Can a citizen who is stopped use the, “I feared for my life,” and the, “I had to make a split-second decision,” defenses?
  • police always say “There is no reason for you to be acting like this” when they are the ones acting all insane “ROLL THE WINDOW UP ROLL IT DOWN”
  • These cops were extremely aggressive right from the start, it was mostly a fishing expedition and a very terrifying one at that.

 

  • “I just want to record this” “That’s fine” immediately takes the phone out of his hand to prevent him from recording. Cops are scum.
  • 1:30: How can a cop approach someone like this cop did and then dare to act like it’s weird that he seems nervous? You have him cornered and surrounded, and in the first minute of the encounter you’ve already given him 6 different orders, some of them conflicting with each other. Several of the orders were barked at him repeatedly before he could even process what you’d said. The way you’re speaking would make anyone nervous even if you weren’t carrying a gun and wearing an “I can get away with anything” costume.
  • Not answering questions gets these freak cops nervous and ready to claim “uncooperative” what a bunch of BS
  • When the first cop said “I’m going to read him”, that means he intended to read Mr Spalding his Miranda Rights and potentially place him under arrest – with no justification or reasonable suspicion whatsoever. We need to eliminate qualified immunity yesterday.
  • This same thing happened to me. I actually refused to reach for anything cause I could see one officer was nervous and twitchy with his hands on his gun. I was pulled over for expired temp tags. Ended up getting the car towed cause I wouldn’t consent to a search of the car.
  • He should said “I want my ticket for speeding and illegal lane change”, and said nothing else. As soon as he gets the tickets the stop is over by law. Anything else after that not be held against him as he was detained after the main reason for the stop.
  • I saw this a while ago on another channel and it made my blood boil. The only person acting funny is the drivers side cop with how jumpy he is and blurting out all kinds of orders and questions. I couldn’t believe how much the drivers side officer was intentionally trying to escalate the situation.
  • I know it was going bad from jump when the cops wanted him to roll down ALL his windows. The guy also needs to bone up on his rights. He has a basic idea; but needs to be educate himself more.
  • “You switched lanes in the intersection & were going 51 in a 35, but I don’t want to give you tickets.” Translates to “I’m copsplaining for the camera because I’m about to violate your constitutional rights and or slap you with some false charges after conducting an illegal search.”
  • “I would just finish the ticket, and call it a day.” In other words he’s saying, “Damn, sucks we couldn’t find anything to stick him with, so let’s just let this one go!
  • 6:50 Just because you don’t exercise your constitutional right not to self incriminate doesn’t mean others can’t. Police officers are so sensitive that anytime someone does not answer questions, they take that as resisting/combative.

 

  • love how cops will pull loop holes with dogs when denied consent. “can I search your car?” no “fuck you I’m gonna get a dog that’s trained to receive treats when it sits next to cars or on command with documented 80% failure rates so I can do it anyway.”

 

  • When the cop says “if someone pulled me over id say no theres nothing illegal” what this cop doesnt understand is he would never be stopped under the same pretenses as he stopped this man for. You can tell this guy being “weird”is him not wanting to give up his rights cause he went from 0 to losing in a matter of seconds with these cops. And they treat citizens like this multiple times on a daily basis across the nation. time4change
  • It blows my mind dogs alert is legal. It is so damn easy to have the dog alert and they keep no stats on how often drugs weren’t found. It is just a super easy loophole for cops to violate your rights.
  • The officer ADMITTED he was looking for guns and drugs and that was the reason for the stop. I’ll bet when his (edit: CIVIL) attorney gets going on this, the city’s own street cameras will show he never did anything wrong to be stopped in the first place.
  • They’d pull the “why are you nervous?!” Shit on me when I was a 16 year old kid and I thought the worst thing was they could give me a ticket. I’d literally be scared of getting a ticket and they’re flipping the fuck out like this. Then I had a Halloween mask in my trunk from Halloween so I’m “robbing houses” like where do they make these leaps. Oh I also forgot I had a fishing tackle box (full of roadside safety things like flares and all the shit they tell you that you need in drivers Ed) and that makes me a drug dealer. Cuz apparently drug dealers keep tackleboxes in their cars? I mean what kind of mental gymnastics do they need to do to make leaps like that? “There’s no reason for you to act like this” well normal people don’t do well with just being yanked out of their car and manhandled. And I don’t wanna say racist but I feel like that would’ve been less likely if he was white. I pass for white but when I was younger you could tell I was Hispanic. And I’d be in the passenger seat with my white friend (who was a total idiot and troublemaker btw) and I’d be polite saying yes sir no sir to them. And he’d be talking to them like they’re the biggest idiots wasting his time. And they’d fuck with ME! Meanwhile he’s the driver and they’re being so nice to him. My other friend she had the exact same experience too. So I also learned just talk to them like they’re idiots. The one time I did that they let me go with a warning. All the other times they’d see how much they could fuck with me.
  • My goodness these cops escalate quickly. Far too quickly for a reasonable person to follow instructions. They to go “you are making me nervous” way too quickly.
  • I think that if a cop conducts a search because he “smelled” contraband, saw shake, a dog alerted or stuff like that and nothing is found there should be consequences, and they should be open up to Constitutional violations. Because if they claim to detect these things and none us found that kinda suggests a lie or manipulation of the situation to get a search, doesn’t it?
  • Officer also stated that as long as he is made waiting for the dog he’s going to be writing tickets. Since it could take awhile for a dog to arrive it is fair that this is a threat of false tickets being written during this scare tactic!!!
  • The fact that you appear to have an unending supply of these types of police encounters makes me think your police in America are corrupt and unworthy of the role of police officer.
  • And of course officers faced no consequences for doing this and went on to continue to do it in the future without being challenged. This is the kind of degrading treatment people face constantly especially minorities by racist cops who interpret anything a minority might do as suspicious.
  • A neighbor of mine is a state trooper. He has his DRE certification – Drug Recognition Expert. Every driver that pisses him off gets his light in their eyes. Then they get arrested for being under the influence of opioids because when you’re under the influence of opioids your pupils constrict. Even though he KNOWS the light constricts their pupils he arrests them anyway and swears in court that their pupils were constricted and that’s a sign of opioid use. Never piss off a cop. They have 1000 ways to violate your rights and they will do it in a second!
  • Based on that guys reaction to all this, I suspect this is not the first time it’s happened.
  • A total fishing expedition. And their actions show just that! Hopefully one day law enforcement will be he’d to the same standards that the citizens are held to.
  • Soon as the officer talked about roll the windows all the way down I already knew what type of situation this was about to be. You don’t legally have to do that. There’s no laws that require you to roll all the windows down without reasonable suspicion
  • Don’t forget about that inhuman tactic of making people sit on the ground.
  • What continues to baffle me is how police can do this sort of thing, then pretend to be surprised that people don’t trust them and believe police are going to harm them or trump up false charges no matter what they say or do. If police really are that unaware of the direct consequences of their own actions, then it’s an active public danger to give them weapons and permission to use them.
  • Sadly, both of these officers were doing precisely what they’ve been trained to do in accordance with departmental policy. So much for “justice” in America.
  • In California, you can switch lanes in the middle of an intersection. I found that out when I went to traffic school several decades ago.
  • This is reminds me of the Orlando in the 80s when the cops were out of control and the cops were planting evidence on people and in their property also once they got you charged with something within months they were arrested again and again when most people get pulled over they get nervous and or upset either with the cops or themselves

“Fruits of the Poisonous Tree”

As a retired Police Officer, I can tell you that the speeding citation will be tossed. I don’t care about his “well calibrated” Police cruiser, because you’re still required to pace the speeding vehicle at least one mile without losing or gaining distance. I heard a Judge once ask a state Trooper who tried to pull this stunt,;
“you’re telling the court…. with your calibrated eyeballs you clocked him at this rate of speed?!”

From the aggressive bullying by these officers, I’m fairly sure that the pacing did not happen. Improper Lane change in the intersection? Their PC for stopping this man is suspect at best.

This foolishness of pulling people over just because you can is dangerous! This traffic stop is pregnant for a disaster. He could have shot them or vice-versa.

 

  • Mandatory body cams have proven to be a huge leap in justice. It tends to work against law enforcement
  • I have been saying since forever that it is the GRAY area of the law that allows officers to continue to be corrupt and downright dishonest and abusing rights over and over,he SHOULD be allowed to sue the individual officers and not the system as these officers should be held accountable for their actions and not hide behind their badge.
  • I hope he sues…. They can’t extend the stop to wait for a dog.
  • What happened to traffic stops, that actually have to deal with traffic. You get pulled over, cop tells you why he stopped you, ask you for your information, run a check, give you back you property, and send you on your way. No one gets threatened, injured, or worse, killed, because of over zealous cops. This is so much more than just a traffic stop.
  • I like how saying “I’m not answering questions” is seen as suspicious so they call the K-9 unit even tho the right to remain silent can’t be seen as incriminating
  • “ We want to make sure we go home safely. That’s the key to this whole thing”. Obviously doesn’t matter if the school children don’t go home safely, you bunch of cowards.

 

  • okay so when he says he’s looking for narcotics and fire arms my interpretation was he’s not worried about ticketing minor offenses. obviously you’d judge someone you pull over and if you suspect more you go from there. therefore that’s not pretext
Oh sad to see this so close to home. I live no more than 15 minutes from where this happened
These new cameras that people have in their cars on the rear view mirror will catch a lot of predatory cops. Taking the cell phones away won’t prevent people from recording once these become common.

Wow, they are intentionally escalating everything they possibly can. They are playing, I’m the Good Guy, and I’m Your Friend. Neither is true. This is a guy with power, and he knows how to use it, so he’s going to twist everything he can, to get what he wants. You have no rights while this guy is near you, and I would imagine police hq would agree with that, and with everything he does.

The driver has every reason to be scared of these guys, and yes, they have guns, and it’s takes a second to have that gun out, and killing you. So, the fact that it isn’t in their hand means nothing at all. Just the fact that cops are still acting like this, after everything that has happened in the last few years, is really a problem.

They are actually using the fact, that anyone would be nervous of cops as reason to invade your privacy, and do what they want, in the guise of your being suspicious, because your nervous. Like anyone can really stay completely calm around cops acting like they are. It’s a really shady way to do justice.

The ones actually acting suspicious, are the cops. They are screaming, Don’t Trust Us!!!

This was a fishing expedition, like most police stops like this. They do their best to Escalate anything they can, to give you a ticket, or take you to jail. Either way, they want you feeding money into the system, to fight the system. They want to get you in front of a judge. Nothing else matters, because police do no wrongs, and they never lie.

 

  • Seems you need to learn how to hand your licence and registration to a cop without actually physically handing your licence and registration to them, in case it scares them……
  • So tough these cops are. Now imagine if they can be that tough in an active shooter scenario.
  • If a police dog is brought in and alerts on your vehicle, leading to a search: should the car owner request/demand to told the dogs name, tag number etc to aid in later understanding if that specific dog was trained and certified?
  • A LARGE percentage of officers these days break the very laws they enforce. It’s sickening and “things” have to change !!!

Sadly, talking to lawyers this is EXTREMELY common. Where cops will try to delay something as much as possible to get a drug dog out there to harass someone.
What they told me is if something like that happens. Tell the officer “am I free to go”, and “I do not consent to stay here longer than a reasonable time for you to do your investigation.” Another is if they say you’re not free to go, say “please tell me when I’m free to go so I can leave. Thank you” Basically, it shows you didn’t voluntary stay there longer than needed for a normal traffic stop. It is likely, if he brought it to court with this body cam and a good lawyer. He wouldn’t have to pay a dime, and he could’ve sued for the extended time being stuck there.

From what they told me, if they pull a I smell x. You say, “can you prove in court that you smell x?” They might get PO, but basically it signals that won’t fly in court. They will most likely try to pull a drug dog, and mention “your lawyer will pull up the record of the drug dog training, and all officers involved.” Like they and others will pull BS that saying that forces them to do it. But in reality, by the time they are pulling a stunt with a drug dog or threatening it. They are going to do it no matter what you say, and fear of it not being held up in court is the only way to get them to back down.

#1: I’ll help you- the young Black man (that’s what this is all about) gets an A+++ as he did what a Judge (a relative of mine) told us to do: keep your hands on the wheel or up in plain sight, no movements unless asked to do so, simply ask why you’re being stopped, try to remain calm, let the cops know you’re going to exercise your rights, & that you don’t consent to any searches or seizures. Despite clearly doing this, he is assaulted, handcuffed, harassed, & subject to numerous rights violations during this course of racial profiling.
#2: This is the modus operandi for these cops (seen it & been thru it enough myself) and they clearly stated what their real intentions where while they used the plethora of tricks afforded them by the Courts.
#3: I thought this was going to be another young Black man murdered by cops during a traffic stop for nothing. IF you couldn’t tell, the young man was literally frightened for his life. He was confused by what they really wanted from him/their actions. Their approach, tone, & attitude let him know that “road piracy” wasn’t what this was all about. He did NOT know if he would survive this encounter.
#4: He probably can’t afford a $750/hour attorney (if he could find one) & how many of us can? He paid the ticket as he wanted to be through with this system as much as anything else. Besides, the Courts ain’t gonna listen to him even if these 2 regularly planted drugs on innocent citizens. Period.
#5: He is permanently scarred by this treatment from “those sworn to serve and protect” & will do his best to avoid them forever.

Oh, but the system loses as well. He will return to his community & add his fear and humiliation to that of his community which will continue to not trust law enforcement (exactly why should they?).

So, forget about expecting virtually any cooperation when law enforcement needs help from them.

  • Why anyone would believe that this type of “law enforcement” is either fair, okay, or sustainable is beyond me. People are beyond tired of this crap…..

 

  • I find it disappointing that when a person doesn’t jump through their hoops in assisting the officers in finding evidence to arrest them on, and politely says they won’t answer questions: the officers assume he’s some “extremist sovern citizen”.

 

  • I’ve encountered cops talking to me like that, too, except for the narcotics stuff.

 

  • ”You are not in trouble” but by jove, we are gonna make damn sure you are, if we can get our hands on you. It’s no wonder people get nervous when they get approaches by police, all over the world in these times.
  • “The blame cannot be solely placed on these officers. As the current legal framework surrounding traffic stops allows for, and often legitimizes conduct such as this.” Well stated. And watching these cops come up and immediately start with the “you’re acting strange” nonsense, makes one sick to their stomach.
  • Very common in Florida. These cops drive around looking for “narcotics and firearms” and they have no problem fabricating traffic infractions to initiate a stop. Happened to me many, many times. These particular cops were particularly polite, I’ve had them yelling and spitting in my face, threatening to plant drugs, and taking down my personal info telling me I’d better watch out, etc. The Supreme Court erred when they ruled that a dog’s nose on the exterior of a vehicle granted probable cause to search the interior of a vehicle. Hopefully one day it will be overturned, especially considering the dogs are about as reliable as a coin flip.
  • Of course, the dog had a positive reaction! Dogs always have a positive reaction, that’s how police get around the 4th amendment protections. I am frankly surprised that the cops didn’t plant any drugs so that the dog hit would make sense!

 

  • Unfortunately in my experience in 33 years of driving this is a normal traffic stop in the United States of America and I have driven in 26 of those States
  • Every single time you tell a cop you’re recording their answer is always “okay we’re recording too.” Somehow their footage always goes missing…
  • It still staggers me that officers are surprised that people are nervous around them and don’t trust them. Can it really be a shock when they treat people like this? Don’t they realise that this behaviour makes their job harder in the first place??
I am a man who believes in the law and the reasonability of everybody following the same rules as everyone else. Officers like these ones, who removed a man from his car, searched him, and put him under a threat of arrest because “hes shakey” makes me very sick.
these officers are nuts. i defend officer conduct on a daily basis, and do my best to be fair and honest in each occurance. When i see officers like this, it rips all the good that can come from law enforcement, and i hate the way officers like these treat that lawbook like their own personal strong arm.
  • They openly admitted that they were looking for any excuse to pull him over so they can look for drugs. he came right and said that they arent interested in enforcing traffic laws they just wanna find drugs and guns
  • Wish he didn’t open his car door. I don’t know why they just panicked when he did that. It just all of a sudden caused this whole thing.
Based on how the video plays out, they didnt even use the ticket to extend the stop in any way that would be reasonable.
They didnt even start the process of writing the ticket until AFTER the search was over and the ticket was handed out as punishment for using his 5th ammendment rights.
That’s why it is very important to have a body,dash camera,& gps to record evidence against police making false claims
These “officers” were behaving exactly how they were trained to behave and doing exactly what the department expects them to do. We are living in a police state and “we the People” need to end it. Hold these agencies to account and dismiss the abusive leadership and rank and file. We pay these people to do a difficult job and we should expect them to do it well or don’t do it at all.
  • Officer basically said “ You see how using your rights make us nervous?”
  • my favorite part in this was when mr spalding {sorry if I misspelled it} says im gonna start recording and the cops were like nope in handcuffs u go smh record the police if they start acting shady this is how we make them responsible.
  • A good friend of mine has been training police dogs for 40 years. He said it’s a well known open secret that the dogs are trained to give false alerts with subtle commands.
    • One cop faces away and the other blocks his camera with the door at the point the dog signals. Presumably the dog handler doesn’t have a camera. Whole thing looks like a setup.
    • Anyone who has ever owned a dog knows this. Sure, they can find the baggie in the practice yard. But they get treats and make their masters happy, when they alert. It’s not hard to figure out this is just a game they use to get around the search and seizure laws.
  • DO NOT give law enforcement officers permission to go into your vehicle – to search or to retrieve your driver’s license, registration, or proof of insurance. They can plant things in your vehicle.
  • 7:48 There is no such thing as a “well-trained narcotics-detection dog”. Its as accurate as a coin flip
  • 3:10 – I won’t give you a speeding ticket if we can find some firearms or narcotics. This cop would really suck at Let’s Make A Deal. He’s also an oath breaking punk.
  • There should never be a situation where an American citizen is stopped for a minor traffic violation and the police escalate the stop into multiple made up charges. Our legislators need to stop this highway piracy. American citizens shouldn’t lose all the rights when they drive and have to live in fear.
  • “I’m thinking sovereign citizen.” that tells you exactly what this police department thing of the bill of rights
“The dog alerted because he paused.” Pausing to smell isn’t an alert, but most judges and lawyers don’t know shit about dog training.
  • First off, having to roll all the windows down so the cops can see if there’s anyone else in there and the first question they ask is “do you have any guns in the car?” says a lot about how fucked up the country is. Then the cops says the most important thing is that everyone goes home safely – FROM A STOP FOR CHANGING LANES IN AN INTERSECTION. In no other civilisied country would that even get a mention nor would the driver be handcuffed before being placed under arrest for something they’d done.
  • $197 because they have to write a ticket in order to wait for a drug dog, according to SCOTUS precedent. The officers’ behavior was disgusting, but it’s a combination of policing culture and case law that screwed this guy over. Asking him why he’s so nervous is especially disgusting to me. “Why are you shaking? It’s incredibly suspicious.” “Uhhhhh because I’m thinking that I might die from this.”

 

  • All citizens need to learn how to return the assertions of cops back on them. “You’re acting pretty funny too officer. What are you reaching for officer? I don’t know, are you behaving like a normal person during this encounter or do you not concern yourself with your own behaviors?”

 

  • Notice the cop when he asked him to step out of the car he grabbed his arm, then grabbed his phone to stop him from recording at the 1:451:46 mark. I have a few questions: do they make inside car cameras that record the inside of the car from multiple angles that will capture a cop if they try to plant evidence in your car? Also how can you tell if a cop body camera is on?
  • They had basic understanding of Constitution; instead of abiding the law, they manipulated the situation to violate citizen. So typical.
  • Laws that hold authority accountable are only valid if the citizens have the means to hold authority accountable.
  • That is sad. He seems like a legit nice guy and those cops were “pretending” to be cool but were far from it. I hope he does Sue them if nothing else to bring this to light. Thanks for another well done video❤️
  • How do these cops go back to their family and kids at night knowing that they themselves have committed a crime the same day ( and likely everyday) Horrible ☠️
  • As a police officer of eight years, I always appreciate your videos
  • Key to this video, cops believe the 5th Amendment is an admission of guilt or wrongdoing.
  • Police lie so often that is becomes habitual and feels perfectly natural to them.I cringe whenever I hear Police saying “Stop Resisting” when the video clearly shows that there is no resisting going on.
  • Why would you say his view was tainted? These officers are the product of their system. His view is perfectly aligned now with what the system wants to enforce: never talk to cops, never help, never ask for help, never engage with them outside the presence of your attorney.
  • Are records kept by any given police department that keep track of how many times a K-9 unit alerts, but nothing is found? THAT would be most interesting to research.
  • Cop “Your acting all nervous, reaching around, rolling up your windows..” Later same cop “You’re making me nervous.”
  • I found it rich when at the 2:01 mark the cop says “You’re not in trouble right now, you’re acting funny man. There’s no reason for you to act like this”. I respectfully disagree. If I were a young black man and two armed government sponsored gang members stopped me and immediately ordered me out of the car to prevent me from recording I would be nervous also. I thought that the young man was better than I would have been. He was told to roll down all of his windows and he complied immediately. I would have not complied and keep my doors locked. But, I am white and old. So, they wouldn’t have done the same thing to me I don’t think. In any event, this was racist as sure as I am sitting here. I guarantee if that was a young, pretty white girl with a big smile this wouldn’t have happened like this. Not in a million years. FTP now and forever. They truly earn every bit of the disdain, contempt, and hate that they get from the public.
  • We all know who these officers are serving in these situations, but who exactly do they think they’re “protecting”?
  • The sad part is that this abuse of power is so common, that Black ppl rarely see treatment like this as anything but racism. The laws that protect poor performance from cops is a problem. Mr. Spaulding did an excellent job of legally advocating for himself. Stops like these create resentment towards police.
  • Traffic stops are not used in the interest of safety, they are always a pretext for racist harassment. If the government was interested in the safety of its citizens it would have the roads designed to be safe, not selectively punish people for minor traffic violations.
  • This video just infuriates me….this is THE definition of a pre textual stop…..this driver was absolutely mistreated and the only reason the cop didn’t catch an a$$ whoopin is because he IS a cop…..disgusting law enforcement overreach
  • We are only a little way in and we already know what kind of person this cop is. If you say something about them having guns and the cop replies “do you see a gun in my hand?” You know you are in trouble.
  • Got pulled over by Everett Washington cops for doing 35.2mph in a 35mph zone. They had me in cuffs sitting on the street corner and they searched my truck and found nothing. Took it to court and got the $150 speeding ticket dismissed but I still had to pay $50 for the court fee to fight the ticket. Same cop pulled me over again for my window tint. It’s the factory tint. Gave me a $100 some odd dollar ticket for window tint and took it to court again and won but again, I had to pay another $50 for court fee to fight the ticket.

 

  • Well, this is why the guy was nervous. He had a feeling that the cops were not stopping him because of a traffic violation, they were just seeing a dude and were hoping for finding something in his car. Because of these cases, pretty much everyone becomes nervous when a cop talks to them.
    • And the likelyhood that the cops were going to create some bs and charge him with something no matter what.
    • Or, worse, planting something in the vehicle in a manner that the bodycam cannot view.
  • I’m surprised that I’m not seeing comments about the fact that one of the cops wanted to arrest him for being a “sovereign citizen” despite the fact that he didn’t use any of their talking points! He simply gave minimal comments and invoked his right to remain silent.

 

  • Cops make people nervous regardless if they have done anything or not. That should not be a reason to elevate a routine traffic stop to searching the car. I don’t blame the guy for it answering questions because they try to entrap you with those questions. Why is there more pressure on the person to be perfect at a traffic stop when the officer has the training and should know the law?
  • It saddens me to hear that towns like Uvalde are spending 40% of their budget on policing and the police end up not doing anything to prevent crimes.

 

  • You’re exactly right! This is a good example of why cops are hated. Also, I absolutely HATE that a dog can give cause to have a car searched.
  • The speeding ticket requires that the officer produce the Certifications necessary to get the speed measuring device used as admissible evidence. However, the lane change observation only requires the officer to testify under oath that what he believes he saw was a unauthorized or unnecessary move by the gentleman. In that case there is no requirement that the officer film this encounter to determine whether what he claims he saw was in fact what happened. This thin, non existent thread of evidence gives those in authority a license to ‘steal’. So, back to my first point, just who profits from the $197.00 paid by the gentleman? How is that bounty divided up?Did the dog get anything, maybe a tasty meaty bone to chew on? It seems only fair since the police were allowed to sink their teeth, so to speak, into the gentleman’s wallet. And just what average joe, or in this case a young black man, would be able to spend/afford the money to hire an attorney? Last thought, the speeding ticket would have come with points, did the lane change charge carry any points? If the answer is no, see how nice the two officers were, they did not want to see his insurance rates possibly go up, and in that case the gentleman might have felt it necessary to contest the claim in court!

 

  • Cop straight up turned the exercise of a right into probable cause. Give him a promotion.
  • Cops: immediately act aggressive, as if he’s a criminal with a gun Also cops: “why are you acting funny?” Disgusting
  • I have advice for everyone. Keep your insurance and registration paperwork in an envelope clipped to the sun visor. This way you don’t need to “go reaching around”. And always have a paper copy, as opposed to an app on your phone. If it’s on your phone you’ll be forced to “reach around” in your pocket to get it, and you’ll have to go digging around in phone to find the app which could show the officer shaking fingers or “cognitive impairment” if you can’t find it quickly. And if it’s on your phone you may need to give the officer your unlocked phone, and if you refuse to hand it over, you are now deemed “uncooperative”. Don‘t give the them an opportunity to develop Probable Cause. Lastly, if you have a dashcam or cameras mounted in the interior DO NOT tell them. Even if they find something minor, if there are any shenanigans committed by the police captured on film the court may not allow your dimebag as evidence.
  • Almost the same thing happened to me in 2018 in Lagrange, Ga. It was ridiculous, and I’ll will always have distrust in police from then on.
  • Best visual demonstration of “driving while Black”. Sad. Disappointing. SCARY. Every abusers’ best excuse, “look what you made me do”.

 

  • Best practices When being pulled over.. Especially when Black 1) Go ahead and roll all windows down ahead of time (So officer can see inside clearly) 2) Have your ID out already. You never want to put your live in some cops hands by reaching around 3) put your hands on the wheel or on the door window so they clearly see your hands Those 3 things will drastically up your chances of avoiding bullshit
  • So it wasn’t just me that noticed the driver wasn’t acting erratically. I can’t speak for everyone else but the way the officers came up to the car and were acting would’ve made me nervous as well. Then when the start assuming you’re a criminal when you know your not I wouldn’t stop talking to them as well. Those two officers are part of the problem and not the solution.
  • i like how cops use peoples fear/anxiety about cops as reasonable suspicion
  • “You’re not in any trouble” while proceeds to pat him down and handcuff him. The excuse that every officer gives that its for their safety as well as yours is bs. You can tell from the moment the officers walked to the car he was nervous af and refuse to answer questions because of what could happen. Safer to be taken to prison than interacting in public. I’d give the guy a ‘B’ to an ‘A-‘, he seemed knowledgeable enough to comply, no consenting to searches, and to remain silent.
  • Sometimes I get turned off by first amendment auditors and their sometimes confrontative nature but after watching something like this, I don’t mind them being confrontative at all.
  • Oh wow. You would have thought this guy just robbed a bank and killed someone. This guy are fishing in the wrong type of water. Why do they think people would be nervous based on their history with certain people during traffic stops.
  • Its amazing that US police are micro managed by the supreme court.
  • THey pulled him over for traffic infractions, when he looks for his information they rip him out of the car and handcuff him. They are supposed to be writing him a ticket for the infractions, and letting him go. But they escalate the situation so they can hold him and delay writing him a ticket, so they can call a K9 to smell for another LARGER charge.
  • These punk cops act like this person did something to harm them I just don’t get it. Why any agency would continue to let cops like this to be employed on the force is beyond comprehension the attitude of these so-called protect and serve people is again beyond comprehension they should be fired immediately

 

  • I’ve had this happen to me, just cruising along I40 minding my own business, then two unmarked vehicles come flying up from nowhere and pulled me over because “they didn’t see me wearing my seat belt”. They asked for license, registration, insurance, the whole spiel, and then asked if I minded if they took a look in my car. I’m not an auditor, I just wanted out of there as soon as possible, and damn sure didn’t want dogs jumping all over my car scratching it up, so I let them look. They gave me a quick pat down, took my little pocket knife for their safety of course, and I stood there with one officer while the two others went through my car front to back. When they didn’t find anything they handed me my knife back, and let me leave without a ticket or so much as a warning, totally weird experience.

 

  • Profiling, unreasonable provocation, inventing reasons to escalate, escalating and entrapment. Criminals in a Halloween uniform with weapons, given way too much power. It’s only a matter of time before they needlessly take someone’s life.

 

  • I saw the whole video and the cops were so pissy about the guy not answering questions that they kept him cuffed, implying that they’d remove them if he answered. The guy remained silent. I get why he didn’t pursue it, not wanting the hassle, but watching the whole thing was infuriating!
  • The cops’ attitude is straight from the 1950s. Rapid fire, contradictory, hyper defensive commands. Unbelievable
  • So a question. If a dog handler and a dog have an abysmal record of accuracy on alerting on a traffic stop at what point is the dog and handler put out of commission? Is there any action you can take if a dog alerts falsely in a court of law for a violation of your 4th amendments?
  • 10:43 – The officer is holding his walkie next to the mic on his body cam so it’s hard to hear what he’s saying.
  • Pretext stops are perfectly legal. However, threatening to write tickets unless consent to search is given, that is HIGHLY illegal.
  • What’s sad is those cops left that scene thinking they did everything right. What’s even sadder is their department will likely watch the video and tell them they did everything right
  • are we just not gonna talk about the sign on that CHURCH’S door? “According to our Church policy and the Bible, it is forbidden for women and young girls to wear pants inside the sanctuary.” …EXCUSE ME?! WHAT? someone PLEASE explain this
  • “You’re not in trouble right now” means you’re in deep god damn shit.
  • Pretty damn sad. Soldiers gave their lives for this citizen their sacrifice was made in vain by those officers
  • They’re doing their job. Intimidating and keeping people in their place.
  • They will keep doing it until they’re held accountable. Shit makes me feel hopeless. Can’t believe this is where we are.
  • this wasn’t the first time they did this. i heard that getting more drug bust increases the chances of a promotion. in the future, i bet they will start “finding” more illegal substances.
  • You’re reaching around, making me nervous.” Yeah, after the LEO asked for his license and registration. Quite the lesson in cop induced escalation. Meanwhile, the driver was completely chill.
  • The cop is reading a script. He wants those words to get recorded, even if the video doesn’t match.
  • and the fact they wrote him a ticket after making him sit through ALL THAT because they were still butthurt he didn’t answer their questions smh
  • I mean, once he literally admits that it’s all a pretext, it’s over for him lol. Always remember, There is no law or infraction so minor that police will not kill you or your child over and then claim officer safety. Kind of like the 19 in Texas who allowed children to be shot at and killed for an hour, while they sat outside for “officer safety”. They even admitted in a press conference that they didn’t go in because they might be shot.
  • I’m always nervous when pulled over by police. The social gap between the areas where they are assigned to is usually big! A good police will inform you of what the pull over is for. Quit taking advantage of people who know or don’t know the law. Help us and stop reaching departments quota
  • Back in the 80’s I was pulled over daily because my girlfriend was white. They would make her get out of the car and they would tell her to go home and keep me there until she was out of sight. I wasn’t speeding or breaking any traffic laws.
  • ‘You have guns and im scared’ ‘Are they in my hands?’ Cool; then by that theory.. you shouldn’t have to cuff the driver because his guns aren’t in his hands..
  • When pulled over #1 lock your doors, #2 put your window not more than half way down — far enough to pass paperwork and communicate, #3 have your paperwork ready before the officer gets to the window, #4 do not hand them your paperwork until they articulate a legitimate reason for the stop, #5 do not open your door or put other windows down all the way. If they ask you to exit the vehicle they must be able to articulate a suspected crime “your acting funny” is not a crime anymore than “you seem nervous”.
  • These cops are very good at double talk and baited words very well rehearsed that’s why they have to cops so that the cooperate the stories along with the bated words and double talk. These guys are dangerous. These are the type of cops you got to know everything about them.
  • I fight every ticket. I won 4 in a row. Half the times the cops didn’t show up. These cops are unlikely to show up in court for a traffic ticket, because they are probably on some narcotics detail. He needed to get the video. Plead innocent. Never plead no contest.
  • The footage is from the bodycam footage of the cops, which was continuously edited, as the breaks are clearly noticeableThe footage did not show the driver’s actual violation, as would have been captured on the cop’s car dashcam… There is not any footage showing anything to the claimed traffic violation… Clearly there is a lawsuit in play, being that we are seeing this on Audit the Audit… The cops violated an array of the driver’s rights, creating false narratives and outright lying… The crooked and racist courts of that jurisdiction will drag the lawsuit… This is police gang behavior, at the expense of taxpayers.
  • I think about all the times my rights were violated when I was younger by local police and didn’t know any better.
  • Prosecutor: if you don’t take the plea, I will pursue maximum sentence. Judge: has anyone threatened you or coerced you into take this plea? Me: yes Judge, the man acting as prosecutor threatened me.
  • My god the gaslighting is insane. They fumble their speech and tell him to do a multitude of things and then accuse him of reach around? Like dude you just told him to get his papers. I hope this guy got paid.
  • im going to be honest if i was stopped by a cop who said he feels nervous with his hand on his gun id be shaking too XD

 

  • Dude was handcuffed sitting on curb and the cop with back up and guns was “nervous”. Duche bag cop you make the world less safe

 

  • He never addressed the fact that the cop open the passenger door before he had any kind of excuse or permission to do so.
  • I noticed that too. Who do they think they are?
  • And people are of the belief that this type of policing works, 1 out of every 30 stops might yield some minor crap, so 29 people were just harassed after you got one with some shakes on the mat. Needs more, this is damaging the relationship the police should have with their employer

 

  • Only thing I hate more than tyrants, are tyrants in training. I recommend, as do all police that I’ve ever met, doing some ride-alongs. They are free, they do a brief background check, and you get to ride shotgun. You can literally witness this garbage first hand on every average day. Just goto the station and ask if you can ride along. You could say you’re interested in the industry, etc. This was a high on himself Narcotics tyrant feeding his new little baby tyrants the routine. They literally have task forces operating and training like this daily, in damn near every city in America, EVERY DAY. When are we going to say enough is enough and let these operators be held accountable by the law they swear an oath to uphold? If you’re a rights respecting American then your argument will always hold up in court. They are allowed to, after the stop, use the legal system to unconstitutionally detain you and your life, until you misstep or they dismiss. Dismissals should reflect negatively on officers and all other agents that detained us in a probationary status of the court system. We have a right to a speedy trial and these offenses should be PENALIZED and prosecutable.
  • I have severe ptsd from dirty cops. They beat me badly causing severe brain damage while I was having a gran mal seizure and not under arrest. They paid off “my” lawfirm to never get video footage. At least I don’t have panic attacks when I see them like I did for years.

 

  • The moment that lawsuit money starts coming out of the police’s salary packets, is the moment that this kind of behaviour is stamped out almost overnight. If a dog gives a false alert 3 times in the space of 12 months, the dog is retired and the handler fired. Bang, no more fake alerts.

 

  • I’m calling BS on the officer’s comments about searching the vehicle or him just telling him where the drugs are. As I have stated previously, I have seen nearly a hundred videos in which dogs dutifully “hit” and zero drugs were found. Maybe, the videos recommended for me are skewed somehow, but I think it more likely that the dogs are utilized improperly and/or are not well trained.
  • seems like the supreme courts are leaning more and more toward law enforcement than the victim regardless of the situation
I defend good police officers because not everyone who is a law enforcement officer is a bad guy, but I hate when I see discrimination. They were essentially trying to use the traffic violations as a bargaining tool. They stated that they were not worried about worried about traffic violations but guns and drugs. I also hate the way police officers use manipulation of the law to their advantage and treat this individual like a criminal when he did not do anything to deserve the behavior that was displayed by there officers. This type of behavior is why some people have a negative view of law enforcement. I know it is time for a change in the ways that officers are allowed to behave in these circumstances. Someone very close to me has a security system with lights and cameras at their home. When I asked him why they need so much security for their house he told me that he didn’t want law enforcement officers to knock his door down and try to steal from him. Can you believe a statement like that? He worries more about police than strangers breaking in. He had his home torn a part in a raid by police for buying a quarter ounce of Marijuana from a known drug dealer. They followed him home, knocked down the door and took everything of value from him including a shoe box with 25 thousand dollars that he had been saving for 10 years to put a down payment on a home. He was never arrested for anything and had money , 2 vehicles confiscated, and his home destroyed for nothing. His court appointed lawyer(they took all his money) said to not fight this & try to get stuff back because the police would put his name on the indictment. He got bad credit from the vehicle sezuire because they were financed. So can you blame him for his attitude?

I get a laugh out of the cops that say, “you’re shaking. Why are you nervous?” Idk, maybe because ARMED men are escalating what should be a routine traffic stop for no other reason to try and pin an actual crime on me.

Seriously, cops like this drive me insane. For the record, I’m a law-abiding citizen and even I’ll admit that I get nervous during traffic stops, even though I know I’m not doing anything wrong. Why? Just because you’re innocent doesn’t mean a cop won’t try anything funny, like planting evidence. It does happen and I actually fear the long-term repercussions of such an action more so than the “in the moment.”

There’s also one more factor to consider. It was very obvious from the search that the “suspect” drives for Uber. I can say this as a former Uber driver. I have had clientele accidentally leave and spill drugs in my vehicle that I didn’t see until the end of the day when I was done driving. What would happen if I was pulled over and they ended up calling a K-9 unit? I would get in trouble for my own clientele’s illegal behavior. I did get pulled over once while driving for Uber and it was an absolute baloney stop. Officer claimed I failed to yield at a stop sign at a right turn and I called him out on it because I HAD to stop. There was oncoming traffic coming from the left and I had to wait for that vehicle to pass through the intersection. Cop let me off with a warning but honestly, if he did site me, I would’ve FOIA’d the dash cam footage and taken it to traffic court. The cop had absolutely nothing. I had a passenger at the time too and she actually felt bad for me because she knew I didn’t do anything wrong either.

  • Even better, get your own dashcam. I don’t even want to be in a situation where I have to go to the police to get information for their own infractions.
  • I understand the officers in this situation were the ones in the wrong, but I do wish people would say, “I’d like to invoke my right to remain silent” (or something of the sort) rather than, “I don’t answer questions” in situations like these.
  • My friend is terrified of the police. She got into trouble when she was younger, that over a decade ago. The because of the bad experiences she had with police in the past, she shakes when she sees the police. When she got into an accident early this, she was shaking when the police came to question her. She did nothing wrong and did not get ticket for the crash. She was shaken the whole day.
  • These cops have a script to a tee. To get people out of the car, dude didn’t do anything wrong at all. What bull. Sniff this
  • Police often use nervousness as evidence of guilt but they induce the nervousness and should appreciate that. They clearly wanted to search his car. Imagine being handcuffed for improperly changing lanes. The dogs always hit, just the same way roadside drug tests often produce unreliable results. All of this stuff stems from our country needing to decriminalize several drugs.
  • Had a similar situation in winter springs fl way back about 2004. Florida is also a no tolerance state. But no open container charge.
  • 1:43, The Police just Committed a Crime. Assault. Assault is Defined as ANY UNWANTED PHYSICAL CONTACT. and they placed their hands on the victim and REMOVED HIM by force from his car because he was NOT permitting the officers to do a UNLAWFUL SEARCH of his Vehicle.

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Fishing Expedition ends in Retaliation?

“Can I leave?”
“No”
“You’re loitering”
  • This happens a lot especially when it’s a female officer being observed by a male officer. She has to show she can throw her authority around. And make citizens afraid of her.

 

  • This was one of the more infuriating cop videos I’ve seen. The female cop obviously lied about seeing Adam smoking. She holds onto his ID, effectively detaining him, and then issues him a citation for trespassing. Where do you get nerve like this?

 

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>> He never should’ve handed over his ID.

  • Boy, if this isn’t a police state, then what is? Thanks Adam.
  • Stopped for allegedly smoking, detained for several minutes, then ticketed for loitering. Could this cop be any more dishonest and corrupt?
  • They illegally detaine him to issue a loitering citation. What a bunch of crooks.
  • This is one of the most BS tickets I’ve ever seen. I hope to God he fought it. Any reputable DA would toss this ticket after viewing the video. Of course, I’ve seen some pretty outrageous cases brought to court, so I emphasize the term “reputable”.
  • It’s almost to the point where we need to walk around with our own body cameras. I don’t know how cops sleep at night when they treat people like this
  • “the officer made a mistake” is what people will say to defend actions like this as “not a big deal”… bad cop defenders will never find this offensive until THEY are being accused of something they had not done… the cops were SO certain they were going to find something else, they lead with a lie that had to keep evolving from smoking, to loitering… without video evidence how do you beat the testimony of a “decorated officer with extensive training and knowledge”…
  • Viewing from United Kingdom. This is appalling! She was determined to punish him for not bowing down to her. And the other officers were a party to this. I hope this gets enough publicity for her superiors to see and for her to be reprimanded! Disgraceful behaviour exhibited here, adding to the hatred of police
  • I think the lady cop backed herself into a corner once she called for backup. After she called for backup, in order to “save face” with her coworkers looking on, she had to write a ticket for something. It remains to be seen if loitering would have been the citation until it was suggested by her fellow cop. Hope the fellow fought the ticket – especially the trespass one. These cops are wildly out of control and don’t appear to have an adequate working knowledge of the Utah “no smoking” law.
  • “You’re not gonna tell me how to do my job.” Well someone has to because you have no idea what you’re doing.
  • The problem here is the police have developed their policy around the grey areas of the law that give them authority. It is the reason there needs to be a totally separate organization.
    •  IMHO it’s bc people are way to quick to take a settlement. They can go all the way with this, making it it case law or reference to such. Terry v Ohio must be challenged, and have a standard for what is reasonable, bc these cops clearly aren’t reasonable people
    • I hadn’t thought of it that way but seems accurate. I think it’s also a combination of some officers that are just plain bored. She prob saw someone who looked out of place in “her” community and went on a fishing expedition cause he looked like someone who smoked and when that didn’t work she had to find something to justify her stop and jam him up for not being adequately deferential to her perceived authority. She’s prob also trying to climb the ladder and had a supervisor comment on her dearth of citations. It’s a system that rewards finding or even creating criminality rather than keeping peace. Department budgets and funding are based on amount of “crime” rather than creating a culture of mutual respect and lawfulness. They assume low crime rate means they’re not “finding” it. They need to justify their exorbitant budgets and military toys somehow. Yet if there is a spike in actual crime they have a press conference reassuring the public that it’s not really that bad because they keep the peace and exaggerate any small decrease in crime as solely due to their department. It’s a self-reinforcing cycle of judicial theater.
  • when they sited him for trespassing, i would have asked them if uta had asked them to remove me for trespassing. the police don’t have the power to just trespass you, unless the property manager has asked them to remove you, that is not in their power to do.
    • They can and will convince someone at UTA to file a complaint.
    • @Mr. Security  that would be soliciting a trespass, and that is also illegal. I’m not saying they wouldn’t do it, but they’re not supposed to.
    • @Ryan Barry  they’ve done it before and since
    • That does depend on the state. I don’t agree with it, but it’s my understanding.
  • Unscrupulous actions by officers like the ones in this video are an important reason why the public is continuing to lose respect for the police. Supervisors in law enforcement should take these incidents more seriously because of the negative impact they have in their communities.
  • Any judge that allows contempt of cop tickets should be removed from the bench and disbarred. We the people don’t deserve this treatment from government.
  • that was crazy. She lied about seeing him smoking. Then tickets him for loitering for the time he was staying there because she wouldn’t let him leave.
  • How else can police departments get money? They have make up infractions when there aren’t crimes, otherwise there would be no need for them.
  • “OK, so you weren’t committing any crime. No problem. We’ll just make something up.”
  • Funny they told him he was being detained for loitering when they’re the one who’s keeping him here even if they don’t have any right too. It should be every cops knowledge that people have a right to remain silent so let us use it.
  • He’s NOT loitering!!! THEY aren’t letting him leave!!
  • There’s no such thing as a stop and ID law. Any ID law still requires a law to be broken to ID someone….
  • You can’t be detained and loitering at the same time. He needs to fight the charge on principle.
  • This is exactly why “stop and ID” laws are complete bs! Cops can make up any kind of excuse they want in order to get your ID so they can cite you. Because it’s their word against yours in court.
  • Pig: “I saw you smoking. Give me your ID.” Innocent civilian: Hands them his ID, “But I don’t smoke.”
  • Pig: “Now that I have your ID I’m gonna cite you for loitering instead and trespass you too, and it’s a class B misdemeanor if you don’t sign.”
  • WTF OVER!?!? This guy needs to get a hold of the bus stop surveillance videos, haul that bitch into court, and sue the hell out of her and the state.
  • this dudes mistake was ever giving up his ID. He should have demanded to be arrested.
  • I saw this awhile back, and it’s just like all the officers you run into here in Utah especially UTA cops, they use the smoking cigarette thing here like other officers use the I smell weed on other states. Thanks so much for all your hard work and for the share 😊❤👍💯✌
  • 2 minutes? The statue clearly says cannot be standing for more than 2 minutes as to block the pathway of others, after 2 minutes as long as you’re not blocking the pathway you’re not loitering.
  • @5:18 Loitering?! He already said “give me my ID back so i can leave.” She’s keeping him there, how is THAT loitering?
  • How can people unironically say they “back the blue” when crap like this happens EVERY DAMN DAY?!
    • depends where you live i dont support city cops but i suppport sheriff’s and a few police in the country they aren’t like these people plus you have no choice but to back the blue lol
    • We all need to know and remember the definition of loitering and our states laws on ID. This lady should be fired
  • This was a while ago and I think I recall that while she wasn’t fired for this, she was fired for something else later.
  • It’s from 2013.
  • love watching these kind of videos, it just makes me appreciate more that I’m living in New Zealand. The cops are friendly, helpful and don’t even carry guns.
  • Stop and identify laws don’t allow an officer to identify anyone, at any time, for no good reason.” Correct. The corrupt legal system refusing to criminally charge and prosecute cops for doing such things is gives them that power. And it will continue until we the people demand it change.
  • This seems like an easy win. He was cited for loitering, AFTER he was Detained, and not free to leave.
  • So she got caught lying and then played stupid.
  • Just when I thought I’d seen them all, they come up with a new one: Ordering you not to leave, then accusing you of LOITERING! Man are they slick!
  • another clueless cop demanding ID for not answering questions…. it’s all about running this guy for warrants…. first smoking.. oh wait now loitering….. another cop telling lies….
  • I know that in the moment, dealing with these bullies can make it difficult to gather your thoughts, but i would’ve liked to see him have her justify the loitering citation.
  • Just love that these tyrants dont make any attempt to hide the fact that they’re taking action against law abiding citizens who they have personal beef with. I just watched a cop on manuel mata’s channel who said clear as day that yes, they can and do solicit trespasses against people just because they dont like them. Said it without hesitancy, knowing he was being filmed.
  • I remember this one.. Geez man just sad. Entire country is a police state at this point and I don’t think it’ll change. Just get worse as long as there’s qualified immunity. There’s a reason they don’t teach the Bill of rights or constitution in most public school’s anymore.. Kids are taught to not ask questions just obey any and all authority.
  • REMEMBER THE FIRST 2 RULES WHEN DEALING WITH POLICE…(1) ALWAYS RECORD POLICE…(2) ALWAYS KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT…. its your right to remain silent….
  • We need to remove qualified immunity 100% cross the board police should be forced to get private insurance just like doctors have to have for malpracticeI remember watching this video a long time ago and these officers are just losing their minds trying ro find any little thing to charge people with
  • All auditors should start asking these cops if they’re going to go home and show their kid this video or any video they’re in because we all know they don’t want their children to see who they really are
  • It is respectful for a police officer to remove sunglasses when talking to a member of the public in an official capacity, unless you want to try intimidating and hide your sincerity towards them
  • I think if a Cop’s sole reason for demanding someone give them ID is to run their name for warrants it’s Unconstitutional!!!
  • I love the officer who said he was protecting UTA property! Isn’t he sworn to protect and defend the constitution over any private business needs?
  • Sudden realization: I have never had a job where I could interact with anybody inside or outside of the business and say “You’re not gonna tell me how to do my job.” in any official capacity
  • And then they hold your ID hostage as they make up a reason to charge you with something. Public property where they can put a trespass on someone and force them to spend time and money to correct the injustice.
  • Adam needs to send auditors there and do a mass 1st amendment audit. See if those tyrants has the guts to harass those auditors.
  • This happens all the time in utah, all over utah. They just make shit up if they cant catch you or find anything illegal on you. Ive been a victim of this crap all my life. We need more civil rights attorneys here. Ive tried to sue and no attorneys want to take the case
  • There is a simple blood test which can identify if a person has used tobacco in the last 30 days. A test which would prove the officer was lying about having seen him smoking.
  • The key moment: 7:55 Adam says: “See I know this is your job, but you can quit at any moment. You can quit and go find yourselves a real job.” Truth.
  • If you are asked the question, “Were you doing X?”
  • The response is always, “Do you suspect me of doing X?”
  • In situations like this, always ask for name and badge number remember to uphold your 5th and request an incident report number . Don’t forget to ask for supervisor it’ll be extra aid when you file for civil suits.
  • I think they should make a law that any cop found lying is put in prison with hardened criminals.
  • couple years ago my fiance and I watched a police officer pick up my wallet from a Dollar General Store parking lot. I was going to visit my brother who has cerebral palsy so my fiance went to the police station to have the officer dispatched. They threatened to arrest her and basically said even if they did recover it there’d be no money in it which it had 130$ in it. The officers basically intimidated her and threatened to arrest her if she filed a complaint. Realizing the weren’t going to help or be honest about the officer who picked up the wallet she decided to leave and we just took it as a loss several weeks after that every time we were in that part of town we began to be followed by patrolmen and a couple of months after that incident they followed her from one end of town to another stopping her and saying the reason for the stop is that they didn’t believe the color of the car match the color that was listed on the registration and when she proved them all of those things they cited her for having a mask hanging from the rearview mirror saying it obstructed her view. six officers showed up on that incident and I myself refused to identify myself because I had did nothing wrong apparently they didn’t like that because we have had nothing but harassment and intimidation from and on Sept 9th 2021 one of the same officers involved during original incident stopped us after we were parked in the out of our vehicle he even admitted on the report that he was several cars behind us and the reason he stopped us was because we didn’t engage your turn signal 100ft prior to the turn but tomorrow understanding that is only when traveling on the highway not within a municipal Corporation limited long story short we were ripped from our vehicle they threatened her and told her that she could go home if she provided my information which she refused they arrested her did not read her her rights tell her why she was being arrested or any of the above and during the arrest after we had already asked for a supervisor because the officer lied on the report and on the violation they’re trying to say now that the cam footage doesn’t exist and that is a lie it just shows one of the officers dropped their gun clip and bullets fell out everywhere while having my faced slammed to the ground. We tried to file a complaint with the chief of police for that incident and was threatened with arrest for making false accusations not a reporter knees has he been listen to our side of the story and trying to get us both to court to charges that we did not commit but are only trying to cover up their misconduct where do we go for help
  • Even if he did answer her question and said he wasn’t smoking, she wouldn’t believe him, so it wouldn’t matter what he said.
  • “You can’t leave. You’re being detained.”
  • “For what crime?”
  • “Loitering.”
  • I’m pretty sure that’s called illegal detainment ..not loitering.
  • She’s also purposely breaking his ID if you watch her hands. Cops do this all the time, I’ve gotten my ID back damaged and once my friend got his back completely broken.
  • She was damaging property ( his ID card) by bending it in the whole interaction
  • UPDATE: Although this video is nearly 9 years old (2013) the viral content didn.t hinder Aymee Race’s career. Over the years she has received several commendations , currently (2021) she has risen to the rank of Detective and serves at the Unified Police Department based in Salt Lake City, Utah.
  • I’m from Salt Lake and I can say from personal experience those Transit cops are worse than the regular cops
  • Cop: I saw you smoking! Issues a ticket for loitering with no mention of smoking. It’s like her whole argument had nothing to stand on in the first place.
  • These people aren’t cops! They don’t know what it is to serve a community. She is bearing false witness. For shame. Take that badge off. She is a horrible cop
  • I checked out Adam’s page. He specifically asked to be left alone. This video is several years old and was his only video. He has received death threats over it. He believes the cops have too. The reaction was way more than he expected; and way over the top! He was not a part of the audit community; this was just a “one-off.” He had somebody else edit and post it for him — and then forgot about it until the hate started. Why did you think it was a good idea to bring new trouble to this guy? Oh, there’s money in it!
  • .. It’s this immature, bully attitude from law enforcement that frustrates and angers me. Their actions are not supported by the constitution or law. This was completely unnecessary and sickening.
  • That guys biggest mistake was giving her his identification, he got it partially right by asking if he committed a crime and the burden of proof is on her which she couldn’t produce so she slaps a loitering charge on him instead, how can you be loitering if your there waiting for someone? He let this cop manipulate him!
  • .. I hate those laws that require you to sign or it’s automatically a higher offence and/or jail time.
  • .. We need to speak up about this problem we need to flood their phones and peacefully protest our grievances
  • .. Should have asked for a supervisor as soon as she forced the ID issue. She’s a perfect example of the types of crooks creating the divide between the communities and the police.
  • .. This is exactly why we need a law on the books to protect citizens. In order to protect your rights and fight back against these kinds of acts, you have to go to court, but for many people representation is costly and difficult to obtain. 50 dollars is nothing. It’s extortion by a thousand cuts, making sure that the price of paying for the unlawful ticket is cheaper than fighting the charge. Pass a law that allows citizens to recover their costs against violations like these and watch this behavior dry up.
  • .. Pure harassment. Those cops need to be fired!
  • She asked if he was smoking and he said no. Then she said I saw you smoking. Then he asked then why’d you ask me? Then she said , “Because I wanted to see if you would be truthful.” Then when she couldn’t prove it they accuse him of loitering. Then a bus pulls up? It’s a bus stop! He’s supposedly loitering at a bus stop which people wait at for busses for hours!
  • kinda makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside the way cops have our backs don’t it?
  • .. “What are you serving and protecting?” “I’m protecting UTA property.” And that ladies, gentlemen, and NBs is EXACTLY what American police do in this country. They protect CAPITAL, not PEOPLE.
  • .. It’s like the cops want to give the public a reason to despise them! Peace!
  • .. “Show me your ID” is the drug of choice for cops.
  • It’s so interesting the the lying cop wants to see if the person she’s lying to will be honest! With regard to judges taking the word of a cop over that of a citizen, any judge should know that the burden of proof is on the government. So the benefit of the doubt should always be to the citizen.
  • 6:00 as she flicks the I.D. she is deciding what she can do to him. If he had a vehicle they would have given him an even more difficult time in retaliation.
  • In the other 2 officers defense, sitting idle while this happens is part of the problem. 8:45 she wants his vehicle too. 9:15 she tickets him. He asks “I got a ticket for loitering?!?!” She demands his quiet, so instead of saying “Yes,” she can make him appear rude and interruptive so she can hear her own voice repeat her/his offense: “I am giving you a ticket for loitering…” he repeats it. “LET ME SPEAK! I am giving you a ticket for loitering.” Lying and belittling is part of this witch’s job
  • .. It should be illegal for the officer to wear a sunglasses while handling “suspects”
  • Other than the police, what other profession do their employees regularly lie ?
  • .. His first mistake was talking to her. His second mistake was giving up his ID.
  • This is exactly why body cams are essential
  • .. A signature on a ticket is a contract (to show up in court and plead ones innocence in this case), no one person nor entity may be compelled to enter into a contract with or without due representation. This is a common misconception, upon full information to fill out a ticket and an officer signature there is no need for the issuant to also sign. This is classic bully tactics and retaliation because the initial ‘infraction’ was never cited nor spoken of again.
  • .. If refusing to sign a citation is a class b misdemeanor then what she did was fraud for trying to stitch him up
  • .. So, she lied about him smoking, detains him then does him for loitering. I think she missed the charge of walking on the cracks in the pavement.
  • .. The 2 male cops are just as guilty for just standing by while they watched an illegal retaliation citation.
  • What happened to protect and serve? Treat people how you want to be treated. That goes for cops too….once you have determined a no threat situation, act accordingly. Women cops are the worst power trippers. Very sad
  • .. Cops can’t trespass you unless the property owner or agent requests it.
  • .. You can’t be trespassed unless you were asked by UIT to leave first, only then can she give a trespass warning.
  • .. Another example of why Qualified Immunity needs to be abolished for LEOs. Qualified Immunity is for government officials so they can keep it, but not ANY type of LEO. Back the Blue Until it Happens to YOU.
  • .. I looked it up; UTA Utah Transportation Authority is a public funded operation. In order to be trespassed from any public property, you have to be committing a crime on that property. That trespass order was illegal.
  • Her question about if he parked his vehicle over here is illogical. If, as she claimed, that she had witnessed him smoking; which was a total lie, then she would have observed where he came from. All three of these cops should be charged in federal court with a CRIMINAL civil rights violation. It’s the law that brought down the klan.
  • I remember this video. She was constantly making things up in order to justify her stop. Its her EGO thats hurt cause he wouldnt answer her He’s not obligated to answer her questions. 1rst she asks “if he was smoking”, than says ” he was smoking” then asks again. Than hes “LOITERING” Than “tresspassing” Funny how she wont answer what hes detained for She starts her corporate City Masters well. Revenue collecting
  • She kept him from leaving by holding his documents, then cites for loitering? Really? What arrogance.
  • .. They detained him and required him to stay. In other words they created the offense that they cited him for.
  • I got hassled in the UK by a community police officer (something below a full police officer) for pulling over on double yellow lines (no parking) to let a passenger out. He told me I couldn’t park there and I said I wasn’t parking, I was just letting someone out and then moving on. He said that’s the same thing. I asked why double red lines exist (meaning no stopping) and rather than answer, he just started walking around my vehicle looking for a different reason to give me a hard time. That’s what they do. If you bruise their egos, they will find a petty reason to punish you. Since he was not a full cop I just drove off in the middle of him doing his checks.
  • This is retaliation for exercising 5th amendment rights.
  • The dumb logic of the officers that some auditors should be aware of. How does asking for I.D. gonna help investigate a crime? How his ID gonna prove if he was smoking or not?
  • Wow that was clearly a set up, if I a: in that situation after seeing this, I would walk away and say I am not going to be entrapped, I don’t smoke, not going to loiter. I would like to see if this female and the other two cops are writing these tickets all day long. The money must be outstanding, think about it, $50.00 a person x3 cops writing let’s say 5 people a day, that’s $750.00 a day, $5,250.00 week, $21,000. A month, $252,000. A year….that’s just 5 people each. That is a ridiculous amount of money. They entrapped him, they purposely stopped him to keep him there over 2 minutes to write that ticket. I think it is unlawful and disgraceful.This is so sad, that we deal with this in a so called free country!
  • Would that not be like stopping you at a red light then giving you a ticket after the light turned green because you didn’t go. I called my buddies over, it’s a power thing.
  • This one would be an easy inexpensive to beat. Simply ask the officer why she initiated contact. Either the truthful answer (she believed she observed him smoking) or the false answer (she observed him loitering) would be difficult for her to prove. Smoking: beyond her belief, there was no evidence; when she arrived at his location,, no cigarettes were found on his person, no extinguished cigarettes were found nearby. Loitering: he had a legitimate and lawful reason to be at the station, so no loitering.
  • ..  The cop says that she wanted to see if he would be truthful or not. That’s fresh coming from cops who lie all the time
  • This is downtown near Gateway Mall and Plaza. There’s cameras probably about every twenty or so feet. The cops had evidence this guy was smoking then they should have issued a citation ;But this is unclear if he was smoking or if there’s a violation of any kind. If you presents this in court the charges will be dismissed. Then again Sue UTA for quite a bit. UTA is partially public owed.
  • UTA is 84% funded through taxes and federal grants, that makes it public property, not private property.
  • Utah is the most inhospitable state I have ever been to
  • Being a cop is a hard job but this was a cash grab from the cops proof in point he was not charged with smoking but a bogus charge that would be hard to prove differently
  • They can not legally trespass someone from publicly accessible areas. Police can not legally trespass. Only the owner of the property can trespass.
  • How she casually lies on someone….that is the most alarming thing about this video.
  • In the U.K. where I live, the cops don’t act like tyrants. If you commit a minor traffic offence, or accidentally drop a piece of litter for example, the cops would probably just give you some advice, “Be careful, don’t do it again” Part of the reason for this is that if you get charged with a minor non – criminal offence in the U.K. then the cop will have a lot of paper work to write up, which they would rather not have to do.
  • Instead of suggesting that auditors stay quiet (a virtual impossibility for many of them), you should suggest that they either stay silent, or answer every question with a question (which is both NOT answering a question, and not staying silent). I think that you will find that many of them are capable of this far easier than just remaining silent.
  • Just so everyone knows, the videos of the light rail train is NOT from Utah. That is the Hoboken, NJ light rail station. It is connected to the Hoboken NJ Transit train terminal. I know because I lived in Jersey City most of my life and have been an EMT with the Hoboken Volunteer Ambulance Corps for 22 years.
  • I would have never tolerated that bullshit and would have contacted a attorney, fought the charges until they were dismissed and then I would have gone to a town meeting and served them with a civil complaint, I also would have contacted the news media as well , the city council or commissioners should be out rage as to how the police are treating out of town visitors !
  • All you have to do is get a foot from him and smell. Then all of that extra bunk is void.
  • People has said it many times and I’m sure its just annoying to hear. But this is why no one has any compassion for the police when stuff happens for them. The few people that do care for the cops are either bootlickers that worship them or people that are ignorant to what the police has been doing to our community. There is no in between at this point, you either worship them or you’re ignorant to what they’ve been doing to law abiding citizens. I used to love the police until the day they allowed my mother to die and until I saw all that shit they’ve been doing to people that dared to question them.
  • Police & sheriffs do this constantly. They need mental health training so desperately because they are causing trauma & in severe cases PTSD symptoms.
  • Federal prosecutor, “Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.”

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The Absurd Case against the Coronavirus Lockdown

An irony of the coronavirus debate is that the more successful lockdowns are in squelching the disease, the more vulnerable they will be to attack as unnecessary in the first place.

A growing chorus on the right is slamming the shutdowns as an overreaction and agitating to end them. A good example of the genre is an op-ed co-authored by former Education Secretary William Bennett and talk-radio host Seth Leibsohn. It is titled, tendentiously and not very accurately, “Coronavirus Lessons: Fact and Reason vs. Paranoia and Fear.”

They cite an estimate that the current outbreak will kill 68,000 Americans. Then, they note that about 60,000 people died of the flu in 2017-18. For this, they thunder, we’ve imposed huge economic and social costs on the country?

This is obviously a deeply flawed way of looking at it.

If we are going to have 60,000 deaths with people not leaving their homes for more than a month, the number of deaths obviously would have been higher — much higher — if everyone had gone about business as usual. We didn’t lock down the country to try to prevent 60,000 deaths; we locked down the country to limit deaths to 60,000 (or whatever the ultimate toll is).

By Bennett and Leibsohn’s logic, we could just as easily ask: Why did we adopt tough-on-crime policies when crime rates are at historic lows? Why did we work to find a treatment for HIV/AIDs when so many of the people with the disease now have normal life expectancies?

Of course, it was precisely the actions we took that caused those welcome outcomes.

Consider the perversity of their reasoning a different way. If we had shut down the country a month sooner and there had been, say, only 2,000 deaths, then on their terms they’d have an even stronger argument, i.e., “We did all this, and there were only a couple of thousand fatalities?”

In other words, the more effective a lockdown would have been, the more opposed Bennett and Leibsohn would be to it.

As for the flu comparison, it isn’t as telling as Bennett and Leibsohn believe. The 2017-18 season, with 60,000 flu-related deaths, was particularly bad. But the coronavirus might kill a similar number — with the country on lockdown.

In the 2011-12 season, 12,000 people died of the flu in the entire country. New York alone has eclipsed that in a little more than a month (again, while on lockdown). In 2018-19, there were 34,000 flu-related deaths in the U.S. We’ve already surpassed that number nationally (yet again, while on lockdown).

Why have people reacted so dramatically to this virus? Bennett and Leibsohn have a theory: “New York City is where the epidemic has struck the hardest. The media is centered in New York City.”

New York certainly gets disproportionate media attention, but it is also, as all of us had no hesitation recognizing on Sept. 11, 2001, part of America.

If the disease struck smaller heartland cities such as Omaha and Wichita, would Bennett and Leibsohn hope that the story got ignored?

Bennett and Leibsohn neglect the key fact that the economy began to shut down before there were widespread official orders. People voted with their feet because they were fearful of a highly transmissible, virulent disease. And they acted rationally. If everything had gone on as normal, the outbreak would have been worse, and we would have eventually had shutdowns anyway.

The most objectionable part of the Bennett and Leibsohn posture is its sneering attitude toward “frenzied, panicked” ordinary Americans who have sacrificed so much to protect their families and co-workers (and complete strangers).

By all means, let’s open up the economy as soon as we can, but it will require more careful thought than the most fervent critics of the shutdowns have demonstrated during the peak of this pandemic.