Geithner says dollar to remain reserve currency

NEW YORK (Reuters) – Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said on Wednesday the U.S. dollar will remain the world’s reserve currency for a long time, though he expressed openness to expanded use of an IMF currency basket.

The U.S. dollar tumbled after Geithner told policy-makers and business executives at the Council on Foreign Relations that he was “quite open” to a Chinese suggestion to move toward greater use of an IMF-created global currency basket comprising dollar, euros, sterling and yen.

Prompted by the moderator to clarify his position, Geithner said: “The dollar remains the world’s dominant reserve currency and I think that’s likely to continue for a long period of time.”

“As a country, we will do what’s necessary to make sure we’re sustaining confidence in our financial markets and in this economy’s long-term fundamentals,” he added.

Earlier this week, Chinese central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan, said the world should consider using the IMF’s Special Drawing Rights (SDR) basket as a super-sovereign reserve currency.

Geithner said he hadn’t read Zhou’s proposal, but added, “as I understand it, it’s a proposal designed to increase the use of the IMF’s Special Drawing Rights. I am actually quite open to that suggestion.”

“But you should think of it as rather evolutionary, building on the current architecture, than rather than moving us to global monetary union.”

China’s foreign exchange reserves are the largest in the world at nearly $2 trillion and China is the biggest holder of U.S. Treasury debt.

The dollar initially fell against the euro on reports of Geithner’s remarks, but pared losses he reiterated his faith in the dollar as world reserve currency.

“Geithner admits to not having read China’s proposal, and President Obama’s comments on the dollar yesterday — no need for another reserve currency and that the dollar was fundamentally strong — was more of the underlying signal,” said Marc Chandler, senior currency strategist at Brown Brothers Harriman in New York.

Senior Obama adviser Paul Volcker also said on Wednesday a Chinese suggestion to move toward a world currency system linked to the IMF’s SDRs was not practical.

“I understand restiveness about the lopsided nature of the present international monetary system that’s so dependent on the dollar,” Volcker said at a panel with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown at New York University.

But Volcker said when China questioned the dollar’s role as the world reserve currency, “They ignore the fact that they didn’t have to buy those dollars in the first place so they contributed to the problem.

FOREIGN APPETITE STRONG

Speaking on CNBC television later Wednesday, Geithner underscored his desire to see a strong dollar.

“I want to say this very clearly, a strong dollar is in America’s interest. We are going to make sure to pursue policies that improve the long-term fundamentals of the U.S. economy,” he said. Geithner also said there was “no evidence” foreign investors were losing interest in buy U.S. debt.

He also told CNBC there were signs the government’s efforts to support the economy and stabilize the financial sector were beginning to bear fruit, with the “pace of deterioration” slowing in some areas.

Geithner said in the interview that he was committed to putting the funds remaining in the Treasury $700 billion financial rescue program to work quickly and efficiently, and he held the door open to asking Congress for more.

“We always said this crisis may require more resources to deal with effectively, and we’re going to make sure we work with the Congress over time so that we can do this on a scale that is going to bring recovery back as soon as possible,” he said.

Geithner played down the idea that there was a sharp division between the United States and Europe over the amount of fiscal stimulus need to combat the global downturn.

“I think there is more commitment to a greater level of stimulus across the major economies than we’ve ever seen,” he said.

Scrap dollar as sole reserve currency: U.N. report

UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) – A new United Nations report released on Tuesday calls for abandoning the U.S. dollar as the main global reserve currency, saying it has been unable to safeguard value.

But several European officials attending a high-level meeting of the U.N. Economic and Social Council countered by saying that the market, not politicians, would determine what currencies countries would keep on hand for reserves.

The dollar has proved not to be a stable store of value, which is a requisite for a stable reserve currency,” the U.N. World Economic and Social Survey 2010 said.

The report says that developing countries have been hit by the U.S. dollar’s loss of value in recent years.

“Motivated in part by needs for self-insurance against volatility in commodity markets and capital flows, many developing countries accumulated vast amounts of such (U.S. dollar) reserves during the 2000s,” it said.

The report supports replacing the dollar with the International Monetary Fund’s special drawing rights (SDRs), an international reserve asset that is used as a unit of payment on IMF loans and is made up of a basket of currencies.

“A new global reserve system could be created, one that no longer relies on the United States dollar as the single major reserve currency,” the U.N. report said.

The report said a new reserve system “must not be based on a single currency or even multiple national currencies but instead, should permit the emission of international liquidity — such as SDRs — to create a more stable global financial system.”

“Such emissions of international liquidity could also underpin the financing of investment in long-term sustainable development,” it said.

MARKETS DECIDE

Jomo Kwame Sundaram, a Malaysian economist and the U.N. assistant secretary general for economic development, told a news conference that “there’s going to be resistance” to the idea.

“In the whole post-war period, we’ve essentially had a dollar-based system,” he said, adding that the gradual emission of SDRs could help countries phase out the dollar.

Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, who previously chaired a U.N. expert commission that considered ways of overhauling the global financial system, has advocated the creation of a new reserve currency system, possibly based on SDRs.

Russia and China have also supported the idea.

But Paavo Vayrynen, Finland’s Foreign Trade and Development Minister, told reporters that he doubted it was possible “to make any political or administrative decisions how to formulate the currency system in the world.”

“It is based on the markets,” he said. “I believe that the economic players in the market are going to have the decisive influence on that issue.”

European Union development commissioner Andris Piebalgs said it would be a bad idea to dictate what the reserve currency should be.

“It is markets that decide,” he said. “Any intervention would just create additional challenges and make things even less predictable.”

How would the US react to the collapse of the Petro-dollar system?

If the petrodollar collapsed, the entire world would collapse with it into an economic crisis worse than the Great Depression. For a while.

A little history:

In the Bretton Woods conference of 1944, the US dollar was tied to gold at a fixed rate of 35 dollars per troy ounce of gold. This made the dollar very attractive as a reserve currency for many countries and created an artificial demand for dollars that allowed the US to print out money without it resulting in inflation. At one point the US held about 80% of the world’s gold reserves.

However, the US has a history for being bad at balancing budgets. In 1971, near the end of the Vietnam War, the US had a massive fiscal deficit. In the same way you fear for your money if your bank is making bad investments, countries who had their reserves in dollars started to feel uneasy with the way the US was spending (or printing money). They started buying back gold with the dollars they had, the equivalent of a bank run. The US realized it didn’t have enough gold reserves to cover the massive amounts of money they had printed out (like a fractional reserve bank), and so they unilaterally decided to let the dollar float in what is now called the Nixon Shock. It was a virtual default. Since then, the USD has lost more than 30 times its purchasing power relative to gold.

Without gold backing the dollar, demand for dollars would have collapsed. In fact, for a while, the “oil shocks” that resulted from Nixon’s decision caused considerable economic instability and inflation. The US had to figure out a way to stabilize and solidify the dollar.

So, how did they do it?

First, a deal was struck with Saudi Arabia, by far the biggest producer of crude oil in the 70s, that required them to sell their oil exclusively in US dollars. In exchange, the US offered the Saudis weapons and protection, something they readily accepted given the Middle East’s propencity to military conflict (in part exacerbated by the US itself). And thus the petrodollar was born. The idea was to make the global oil trade depend on the dollar, creating the demand needed to prevent too much inflation.

It was certainly easier for everyone (even if you had your differences with the US) to trade oil in US dollars, because it made markets more accessible, competitive and transparent. Soon after the Saudi deal, the entire world was trading oil in dollars, even the USSR. But it gave the US a massive amount of control, and since then the US has defended this fiercely with military force and political scheming. Recently, Gaddafi and Saddam tried to challenge the petrodollar, and the US immediately gave them a good dose of “democracy”. Saddam was falsely accused of having WMDs. They didn’t even bother to make up a good story for Gaddafi, and simply said he was an evil, corrupt despot (which he incidentally was). They’re both dead now. Al Qaeda and ISIS are both the result of the US funding proxy wars to topple governments they wanted to control. Just a few examples.

The US is the middle-man for the most lucrative trade in the world and much of its prosperity depends on keeping it so. With a high demand for dollars, they keep inflation under control, because all countries subsidize the growing money supply when they buy oil. It has worked brilliantly. The US has issued debt like crazy (and let’s not even mention the fact that the FED is a private institution), and despite this has had super cheap debt, because everyone wants those precious dollars to buy oil.

This has gone on for over 40 years now. 40 years of continuous fiscal deficits, military intervention in the Middle East (Iraq 2x, Libya, Syria, etc), artificially cheap debt, and a manufactured demand for dollars. All financed by the entire world’s consumption of oil.

Meanwhile, globalization has made the dollar the cornerstone of not only the oil industry, but virtually everything else, particularly the financial industry.

But make no mistake: the dollar itself is the biggest economic bubble there’s ever been. There is a massively corrupt and greedy element of geopolitical control in the dollar, rotten to the core. That greed is ultimately, I think, the biggest source of hate, sorrow and war in today’s world.

And yes: were it to suddenly collapse, it would be a disaster. The dollar supply would far and away exceed demand, resulting in high inflation. Everyone all around the world would scramble to get rid of their dollar reserves. And since everything, everywhere is connected to the dollar, it would be a catastrophe. It would all have to start with the US losing control of the oil markets.

It’s already happening now, to some extent. We’ve seen many instances where the US just can’t deal with the economic and political threats through military intervention as it did in the past:

  • China and Russia are pushing towards a non-US dollar oil market. China already has plans for a gold-backed oil futures contract in yuan. Basically, China will do what the US was doing pre-Nixon, and that’s what made everyone want to buy dollars at the time. It’s already being called a “game changer” for the oil industry. It is by far the biggest threat to the petro-dollar right now, and the US is powerless to stop it.
  • The Syria affair, one of the biggest screw ups in foreign policy history. Aside from that one, the US has a massive PR issue in the Middle East in general.
  • Venezuela is collapsing and it seems Russia and China are ready for scavenging.

Times have changed. Today, even piss-poor countries like North Korea can force the US into submission, by threatening to fire a ballistic missile across the world and flatten an entire city. The world has become too unstable to use force as an effective foreign policy instrument.

A complete collapse of the petrodollar can’t happen overnight, though, because the dollar is backed by not just oil, but the world’s biggest economy. It also wouldn’t be a complete collapse, because the US itself is one of the biggest oil producers in the world, so a big chunk of trading will always be done in US dollars.

But a decline will gradually happen. The US government is running the biggest ponzi scheme in history and in doing so is keeping the entire world’s economy hostage to the privately owned FED. Since 2008, the US printed about 3 trillion dollars in their “quantitative easing” program, quadrupling the FED’s reserves. But China, Europe and Russia all want a piece of the pie and are fighting for it. In fact, I think the entire world is a little bit fed up with the whole thing too, especially in Europe, where the monumental cluster f**k that is the Middle East has resulted in serious demographic problems that aren’t on some remote corner of the world anymore… They are at their doorstep.

A Multipolar Reserve Currrency: US Dollar Alternatives

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if you’re looking ahead of the elections
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do you think that the outcome of the
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elections either way
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would influence foreign policy going
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forward and as a result
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foreign countries decisions to hold more
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or less gold
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absolutely i mean we’re working on a
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report right now
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on the implications of the election for
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for gold and precious metals
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uh and you have like four different
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scenarios on how things
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shake out but definitely i mean you know
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this
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administration has um
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excelled in its ability to reduce the us
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stature around the world
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and to create hostile relationships with
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countries around the world
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it’s had a negative effect on cpm group
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because
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there are people who don’t want to deal
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with u.s companies
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and and so i think a change in the
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administration
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while it wouldn’t be a 180 degrees turn
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because
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there are people in the democratic party
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including joe biden
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who will probably retake retain would
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retain
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some sort of hostile posture toward
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china
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it may be less hostile than the current
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one and it may be less hostile toward
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canada
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and and other countries around the world
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so you should see
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if you saw a change in the
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administration and a change in the
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senate
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you should see some improvement in the
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u.s relations with
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the rest of the world but there’s been a
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tremendous amount of damage
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done to the u.s stature globally
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and it’s probably not going to get
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changed by one
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by a change of government for four years
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do you think the us dollar then going
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forward could lose its status as a de
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facto reserve currency of the world
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because you see another currency
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challenging that status
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as i said the part of the problem is
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that the u.s owes the world so much
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it owns it we have 62 percent of
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monetary reserves
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the u.s dollar will lose its stature
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as the reserve currency in the future
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the future may be 50 years from now and
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it is it not it is reversible
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this could not happen if the u.s
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government got its act together but i
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have
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no hopes for that well if the u.s if the
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u.s loses that status
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who’s what’s going to take over who or
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what well i was getting to that
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as i said earlier most central banks in
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the world
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see as an ideal a multi-polar
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international currency regime they
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understand that it will take
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decades to get there because of the
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imbalance and liquidity between the
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dollar and
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all of the other currencies in the world
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yeah
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62 percent of their money of their forex
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is in dollars that means that there’s
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only 38 percent and everything else
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they have to slowly make that transition
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away
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no government wants to see
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its currency replace the dollar as the
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reserve currency
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what they’d like to see is a multi-polar
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international currency regime
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where people are free and companies and
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governments are free
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and there’s sufficient liquidity in
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non-dollar currencies
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that you can own and hold a portion of
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your wealth
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in those other currencies a greater
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proportion of it
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no one like if you talk to the chinese
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central bankers if you talk to
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other central bankers in around the
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world
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no one expects the dollar to disappear
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as a
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quote de facto reserve currency
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but they‘d like to see it disappear as
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the de facto current
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reserve currency but they’re fully aware
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that this is something that’s going to
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take decades to execute
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if it can be done okay you brought up
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china i’m surprised to see that china
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was relatively low on the list
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when you’re talking about their
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percentage of foreign reserves
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in gold holdings it’s only four percent
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of the foreign reserves in gold
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are you surprised at how low that number
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is
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no um i’m not surprised i
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i should ask you why you’re surprised
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that it’s high
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but you know china that should the
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people’s bank of china for
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decades had a view that gold was a small
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and insignificant portion of its
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monetary reserves
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it changed that view in 2015 at a time
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when it rolled out
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a massive acceleration of
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its efforts to make the rmb
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more of an international currency it’s
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still not you know fully convertible
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but they expanded the daily trading
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ranges and they expanded the longer term
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trading ranges that they found
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acceptable on the rmb
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they started encouraging rmb
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bonds offshore being issued offshore
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and they said okay we’re adding some
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gold to our reserves and we’re going to
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continue to buy gold because
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we see gold as a small but significant
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part of our monetary reserve policy
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going forward
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now this was in 2015 and it’s very
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important to understand that that was
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after 2008 and 2009 when the u.s
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treasury
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basically stuffed everybody else and
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protected
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the bankers or the executives at the
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banks uh
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in the us and and so this was a direct
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reaction
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to the inappropriate behavior that the
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us
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treasury had during the financial the
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global financial crisis
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uh and and the chinese central bank
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basically said we have to accelerate our
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effort
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to help move toward that multi-polar
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currency
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regime that we all would like to see in
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the long run
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uh and so they started adding their goal
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if you go back to 2015
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they probably had about 1.1 1.3 percent
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of their reserves in gold so the fact
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that it’s up to four percent
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and the fact that they have like three
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trillion dollars of dollar reserve
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of of foreign exchange reserves means
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that it’s going to be a slow transition
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as they add gold to it and as i said
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they’re very price sensitive
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they pulled out of buying gold for about
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15 months a few years ago
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then they came back and they were buying
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but then they pulled back at the end of
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2019
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and they haven’t reappeared they said
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you know in the past they said
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we’ll buy gold below a thousand when
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gold went over a thousand they
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didn’t buy any gold for several years
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then they increased their threshold
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and they knew they were buying uh and
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then when the price started rising this
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year they said no
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you know we’re going to wait finally
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jeff with everything that’s happened
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this year and in particular with the um
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central bank activity or slowdown of
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central bank buying activity
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do you think the run-up of gold prices
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to two thousand dollars
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all-time highs has made sense to you do
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you think valuations are
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correct as they should be right now yeah
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i think they are
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uh you know obviously the trend of the
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next year or two is going to depend on
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several things the outcome of the us
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elections for the senate as well as the
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presidency
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brexit is coming up the pandemic which
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is getting worse in europe now and is
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expected to get much worse in the united
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states
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there are a lot of negative factors
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there uh that fully support the idea of
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a two thousand dollar
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gold price now i wouldn’t be surprised
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to see the price of gold
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spike up higher on a short-term basis uh
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then maybe plateau depending on what
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happens politically
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uh but we expect higher prices later
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like
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2023 2025 because
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none of these things are being solved
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would you have a long-term price target
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in mind
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we’re looking at a gold price that is
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very significantly higher than it is
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today
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all right perfect jeff jeff i want to
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thank you so much for uh speaking with
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me today that was a fascinating talk
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thank you for your time thank you for
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your time
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