Cop Gets Busted, Then Lashes Out To Get Even

 

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That cop knew he was caught and stupidly thought he could turn it around for a stupid ass ticket. Ridiculous. Hope something is done about those tryants. And that sign goes right back up. Unfrikenbelivable
This video shows how cops lie with no worries about getting in trouble even with the camera recording them lie. That’s why qualified immunity and police unions need to go. Citizens need more accountability for bad cops.

Cop attacks, unlawfully detains, is out of jurisdiction citing people and doing all sorts of shady stuff, but it’s the citizen who’s being “hostile”. Well, everybody needs to be “hostile” towards these pignorant tyrants.

 

I love when they call you “confrontational” for “confronting” them for their bs.

 

“I don’t know what a retaliation ticket is.” Literally every word out of cops is a lie. EVERY. WORD.
Please sue! Totally retaliation and illegal. On a side note; I have never seen a cop so obviously scared. The embarrassment he will recieve from this alone should make him resign. I bet even his boyfriend will dump him over this. But Erie Fam should get PAID!
He needs to press criminal charges on these officers for assault. They attacked him multiple times in the video for no reason. Absolutely disgusting.
Talk about moving the goal post mid-game. 😂
Why, are cops allowed to lie all the time???
Nothing speaks to guilty behavior like destroying evidence —like removing entire city boundary signs.
Obviously it was the police that cut the sign. If it was municipal road maintenance, they would not have left the dangerous and sharp stubs sticking up. Sharp stubs hidden in the vegetation at the end of a sidewalk, perfect for a child to fall on and seriously hurt themselves. Even in construction sites, we put bright orange plastic ‘mushrooms’ over the ends of rebar to prevent injury. This is totally irresponsible and a huge liability issue.
If the cop was so afraid of someone “he doesn’t know” coming up to him, why did he exit his car? This cop is a coward who uses the protection of the state to act tough.
Chestnuts News called and left a message for the Chief of Police of Hamburg. Much to his surprise he actually returned his call. He said that officer Sullivan was completely out of line for
1) sitting outside Hamburg,
2) not de-escalating the situation,
3) writing retaliatory tickets against a journalist who caught him breaking the law.
He said he doesn’t know what happened to the Welcome to Hamburg sign, his investigation will include looking to see if any cameras at area businesses might have caught the sign removal, and in fact he was going there right after his phone call to go out there to see if it got dumped on the side. He said he was going to require officer Sullivan to take remedial training on de-escalation skills as well as making sure other officers are aware of the 100 foot rule (not 100 yards). He said none of his officers should be going outside the city limits unless it’s absolutely necessary. He asked what is going to happen to AEC’s retaliatory ticket and he said he was going to get with the DA to see if they can get it dismissed before court date. He said I have to say I’m really impressed with this Chief. He was open, humble, and he seemed to be honest. He said if he discovered that someone inside the department removed the sign they would be fired and charged with theft.
  • Providing he’s not BSing you
  • Would like a follow-up on this incident and Chief of Police of Hamburg
  • My suggestion is for us not to hold our breaths while we wait for our servant to be true to his word. Just saying…
Cutting down the sign is misprision of evidence. Depose whatever the local equivalent of the public works department is. Someone has committed a felony. They won’t face criminal consequences, but it will cement the city’s civil liability.
A valuable LESSON to ALL AUDITORS in this video is: ALWAYS do a nice, steady, slooow, 360* pan more than once during a video (maybe zoomed in just a little depending on distances involved) of the entire area. WHY? Well in this video, such a careful, clear, slow 360* scan would have clearly cemented WHERE exactly the cop’s car was sitting and which WAY it was facing, WHERE exactly the auditor’s truck was sitting (it could have/should have been parked several feet more away from the road as THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK THERE (who else caught that right away when they headed for his truck?) and it would have clearly shown the CITY LIMIT SIGN existence and location in relation to the cop’s car, the auditor’s truck, etc. Details being recorded OFTEN DO MATTER in these audit videos, and…the camera can only see what it is pointed at and focused on during the recording of the video.
What did you expect for him to do/say, “You’re right, I’m sorry, I’ll move along.?” The police do not have the ability to admit they’re wrong even when they’re on video. It’s Sad, pathetic,
and oh so common! FTP! Keep up the good work my man.
Who’s the “bad cop” here? Answer: It’s the 2 other officers on scene that did nothing to stop and deescalate the unlawful detention. They knew their fellow officer was wrong and they didn’t stop him.
He actually said “sneak up on me”. Broad daylight with a camera… That’s an admission of poor situational awareness. Acting like a tough guy but scared of every citizen interaction. Every department policy claims to be professional and courteous when interacting with the community… I have yet to see this expected behavior from the police.
he is going to leave him in cuffs until he “copsplains and gets him to comply” If the cop thinks everyone he meets is a dangerous person he needs to get a new line of work.
11:00The reason I need your ID is because you were walking in traffic“, he said it – therefore he has to own it. Was he in traffic? I didn’t see it. Hmmm……. yeah, no he’s lying, maybe because it’s starting to dawn on him just how much trouble he’s getting into. Why else would he manufacture BS. IMO there are many cops that still think this is a noble job… yeah, they push that or this line, but they still think it’s respected. What they don’t realize is that the train left the station a few years ago…. that’s over. All you’re doing today is just perpetuating the bad label. Here is another classic case.
I wonder why they removed the sign if they had “clear” jurisdiction? I wonder how the neighboring city feels about the revenue theft on their side? Is this another gang war brewing? So many questions.
How do they even have jurisdiction within 100 feet? This is clearly not “Hot Pursuit”…
This cop knew from the get-go that he was busted. I think that he felt that he could intimidate his way out of the situation, but he failed at that also. He reached into his bag of lies and came up with “Walking in the street, then it was demanding ID for illegally parked. His fellow officers should have put the choke collar on him by then, but that did not happen, so they should be named in the lawsuit as well. This poor excuse for an officer needs to be taken down a few notches and get some mandatory retraining.
He wanted his name to try to get the upper hand. It was like this, “Ok, you know I’m writing tickets outside my jurisdiction, but now you also know that I know who you are”. It was a failed attempt to make AEC think twice about making a big deal about what he found him doing.
That’s such a dangerous hazard they created. I can imagine destroying my legs not seeing the sharp metal sticking up.
Corruption at its finest! 6:40 Assault charges! 2nd assault 8:30 this dude has lost his job and is the reason his town is going to pay out big time. Phone call made…..They hung up on me! Guess they don’t want an explanation on what retaliatory policing is. I didn’t even get to Ask about the Sign 🙁
This dude’s a local hero. Our news media tries to make him look bad. And they just get roasted
what a crooked lil leprechaun. and loved how the auditor stayed on topic. Cop had to push him to make it seem like he was in the road. What a scared little piggy. Had to call for back up to write a ticket? And I might be wrong, but was he illegally park? Looked like an easement to me
I would love to hear a cop tell a judge they have jurisdiction outside their jurisdiction. Maybe it’s time that someone request all car dash cam and look at every ticket they write. Find a bunch of illegal tickets and watch so many others get dismissed, plus being able to ask cops if their fellow officers illegally write ticket and the officers will have to say yes
The most aggressive meter maid I’ve ever seen and he’s a jerk 👎
Something seems illegal when he, the cop, solicited a deal that if the citizen would give up one of his rights then he would take him ‘out of cuffs’.
Just remember, when seconds count, the police are only 77 minutes away.
That is a very good point about them issuing parking tickets all the time and they don’t need anybody’s ID to do it.
The officers that stand by and watch these retaliation actions or join in are every bit as guilty and should be disciplined
Get rid of qualify immunity with solved most of all these incidents. Cops would automatically act better if they had to pay the court fine for breaking the law
Lesson 1
Walking up to a Cop and asking a question is considered “being confrontational” this coming from a man that spends everyday walking up to people and encroaching on them even being grabby at times all i kept hearing from the Cop was I don’t know,,,,this is what someone with a low iq and zero trainning says….Cop clearly needs to go back to trainning,,,,he got lying and thuggery down, now how about juristdictions
If AEC confronted him with lunch and coffee, that wouldn’t be a problem. Instead AEC confronted him with QUESTIONS!! GASP! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Asking questions is anti-police
And this is why I shook the NY dust off my feet and moved to Florida. NY was so corrupt I couldn’t stand living there
Is it possible to call there DOT to see if they cut the sign? If not then report it to the DOT and start an investigation for Vandalism, they should put the sign back up.
1:04 Jumping out of his vehicle in full tactical gear while only on traffic duty tells you everything you need to know about this blue line clown.
“I need your ID to write you a parking ticket,” said no parking enforcement person, ever.
I have no clue why cops thinks moving/removing signs actually changes the official jurisdiction lines. My father was career law enforcement and told me about a particularly dangerous intersection on the very edge of the county. People would often crash into the county line sign. The officers hated having to respond to accidents so far out in the hills, so each time the sign got knocked down they would knowingly reinstall it on the other side of the intersection in an attempt to make the neighboring county have to respond to the next accident. Both counties would move the sign back and forth in an attempt to shirk responding to the accidents. It got to the point neither county knew their actual jurisdiction boundaries.
11:12 their game of demanding id has always been nothing but a power shift. They know full well that they actually have zero lawful authority to go hands on or compel for “violations”….they are hiding behind legislation that they willfully interpret incorrectly because it gives them the backing needed to survive the balance that is their buddy club, the courts. Too bad they didn’t study those oaths before going on their career as a fishing road pirate…
12:06 “Here’s the thing, in the future if you want to come up and talk to me or any other officer, [get ready for a retaliatory ticket and some intimidation tactics because I DO NOT want you to interact with me]”
9:11 “Because of the fact that you’re so hostile with me … [I’m going to ignore all the laws I personally broke and pretend that you’re the problem here].”
Them removing the sign is great for you it proves intent…That’s the hardest element to prove

Man Walks Away From Illegal Detainment

You can see the ego tripping clear as day. “I’m a cop whatever I say goes”. Doesn’t matter if it is right or wrong. That is a big issue and is the root of a lot of issues today.

I hate howshe gets more passive aggresive and that she tried to belittle him with that smug tone “do you work”.

Its funny how multiple units show up for someone doing NOTHING wrong but when you need them, they take forever and a day to show up. #FuckedUpPriorities

whenever a cop tells you you have to answer his questions ask him if he ever heard of the 5th amendment.

Wow this was powerful, These officers had no lawful reason to to detain this man and he proved it. These cops were so butt hurt and they just wanted this citizen to identify so bad its not even funny. If he was not recording this encounter would have went totally different i think. Great work

“I don’t understand why you’re filming us”

is that a felony or a misdemeanor?

How long is it going to take for these guys to figure out filming in public IS NOT A CRIME!!!!

3:55
A cop lie.
Being uncooperative is to lie or give false information.
They are being uncooperative with your rights!

When questioned about filming you should ask them if they have something to hide. Why are they upset about being filmed?

He should have done a James Freeman style “flip the script” and told them he got a call about some suspicious activity in the area, possibly gang related, and he was there to investigate. Asked them for ID’s, if they were doing anything they shouldn’t be, if they had any drugs on them, and if they would consent to a pat down and allow him to search their vehicles.


“I don’t know why you are filming us”
There are a lot of things that you don’t know and I am not required to teach you.

She knew she couldn’t detain him.
This is why we have a disconnect between the people and cops

@J&BCFamily they can’t lie about detaining you. They can lie about arresting someone else.

Ignorant Police don’t know the law: Unlawful Detention

 

  • This cop seems like if he was to go back and actually learn the law, he will be a good officer.
    • I actually thought he was a nice guy. I think he will be a good officer.
    • I agree. He’s clearly trying. It’s really unfortunate that he hasn’t recieved proper training. I hope he decides on his own to learn and doesn’t wait on his department.
  • Even though he doesn’t know the law or his job from his ass or a hole in the ground, he was actually pretty humble, probably the most humble cop I’ve ever seen!

 

  • I agree. This cop wasn’t a bad guy. He was a victim of our utterly incompetent police training system.

 

  • I’m glad he was educated and I hope he follows what he learned on this interaction, as well as stopping any fellow officer from trying to do the same. That being said it’s sad that the people have to teach these officers the law.
  • I wouldn’t say he got “owned” in this case. He got “educated”. He was very cordial and even admitted he may not have known but within his knowledge he was doing what was taught. Far better than other engagements I see!

 

  • The cop was honest and admitted he was in the wrong and even apologized. I hope he continues to learn and grow we need more like him
  • “I do not think you have committed a crime.” At this point the officer needs to walk away from this citizen.
  • I’m glad the officer realized his mistake. He was humble and apologized and learned something for future cases!

 

  • Not a bad cop lol 😂 right he tried to violate him & his children by enforcing a law that doesn’t exist that’s a crime in it’s self ………..
  •  @asifig2F  he didn’t say he wasn’t a bad cop. He’s clearly pretty clueless (as was the suspect tbh), but he seems like a decent guy. He was genuinely ignorant, but he tried to actually explain himself and didn’t seem to be motivated by ego. I think he’d be a good officer with proper training.
  •  @asifig2F  Lets be real, the type of police we see on this channel, he isn’t one of them. this is one of the better police we have seen, polite, trying to be through and courteous with genuine reasons for asking the questions.
  •  @asifig2F  That cop is a great person. He even admitted and apolgized for the inconvience caused by him. He was trying to do his job just like any hard working man.
  •  @asifig2F  its a systematic problem. anyone can be blind to stuff like that when they are not taught by the system you cant always expect people to know better

 

  • Where did you get your degree? Are you an attorney?” Cops seriously need to stop asking this question, unless they obtained law degrees on the side.
    • It’s because its too hard for most police to understand. Every video when someone refers to the constitution they ask if the citizen is a lawyer. This is very revealing. Its says that the bill of rights is so complicated to the average police officer they think you need to go to college for 7 years to understand just 10 simple ideas that are less than 500 words combined.
    • Every time a cop asks where you got your law degree, that should be grounds for immediate firing. “Uh oh, another citizen far more versed in the law than me, I better try and make him feel stupid.” This should be every cops ticket to the unemployment line.
  • This is probably one of the best cops I’ve seen in one of these videos. I honestly believe he thought he was in the right, and he was man enough to admit it when he found out he was wrong. I’ve seen lots where the supervisor comes to tell the person they are free to go and tries to save face for the cop in the wrong, who doesn’t show his face again.
  • “You do not have to be committing a crime to be detained”, that is not what the 4th Amendment says. Not answering questions is the right guaranteed by the the 5th Amendment.
  • Keep in mind. This officer has the power to ruin your life. And he has absolutely no idea how to do his job. Give me a break. This guy is a walking liability for the department and the city.
  • I feel he was honest and likely appreciative that you were there on this. Don’t know how long he’s been out of the academy, but I’m glad he’s not head strong like many. He was very professional even though uninformed. Hopefully things go well for him in his LE career.
  • Honestly, the officer kept his cool and remained fairly respectful throughout, his downfall here is his complete lack of training. I feel like he could still be an effective officer with some better training. Just my 2¢ worth.
  • The difference between this cop and others I’ve seen is although this one waa wrong he didn’t become aggressive or start trying to escalate the situation even though he was clearly finding the situation difficult. He also learned during the situation he was wrong and apologised. He seems like a good guy let down by poor training.
  • I agree with your statement about him being a good officer. But how does the academy pass these officers thru without them knowing the basics of the law. I believe the academy teaches them to get that ID no matter what
  • This guy should turn out to be a good officer once he learns the law. He seems to want to be fair and that is a good start. I believe he is a good man.
  • When the cop need to explain what he learned in training about the law, you know he’s done. This is a good one. =)

How to Refuse an inland Checkpoint

 

All suspicionless checkpoints 100% illegal. We must refuse them.

 

Read details about this stop here: http://callmegav.com/2014/03/congress….

You can also get some tips for filming police and officials on this post: http://callmegav.com/2014/05/tips-fro…

CHECKPOINT TIPS:

– Relax, sometimes we have to stand up to stay free. Now is the time

– You will be nervous. It takes courage to stand up to bully and it’s not without any risk, but it’s worth it.

– Do not answer citizenship questions. It’s all about making you comply.

– If you wish to speak to them make eye contact and ask “Am I being detained – Am I free to go. You can banter if you want but you don’t need to.

DO NOT pull over to secondary. When you are in the road THEY are under pressure. If you pull over they can just ignore you and make you wait. They win.

Talk to the camera. You can also talk to the camera and pretend they are not there. This throws them off and can also help you stay clear headed.

– You have the right to remain silent.

– Lock the doors, put it in park and wait. Keep the camera rolling.

There is a lie being spread that treating disrespectful behavior with open disdain is to disrespect authority — In truth rebelling against the rule of unjust law in order to oppose tyranny and immorality is by action to show utmost respect for law, order and justice. It is and always has been the epitome of human courage.

Question and challenge government all the time — Otherwise they will trample you every time. The idea that we must me patriotic of the State itself rather than the freedom we hold dear is a lie.

Gavin Seim

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DETAILS ON THIS STOP:

We are being stopped at an in inland checkpoint near Alamogordo New Mexico. This is not a border crossing of ANY kind – http://twitter.com/gavinseim – http://seimstudios.com

I also posted the video to FB.. http://on.fb.me/10LJweX and Vimeo… http://vimeo.com/63508451 in case it gets removed from here.

I am traveling the US with my family on a three month road trip (http://bit.ly/Wu2Gq0). I value your freedom and mine and I’ve had enough of the tyranny – Maybe I’ll run for Congress next year. I’m not joking, I am fed up.

We must stand for freedom, else we WILL lose it. More about this stop on our blog as well as alternate video sources… http://bit.ly/122V8O5

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CHECKPOINT LAW:

United States v. Martinez-Fuerte

Government surfs love to cite this one – In reality the 4th amendment of the US Constitution is supposed to protect us from stops like this. Here is what the court said.

“While the need to make routine checkpoint stops is great, the consequent intrusion on Fourth Amendment interests is quite limited. The stop does intrude to a limited extent on motorists’ right to “free passage without interruption,”While the need to make routine checkpoint stops is great, the consequent intrusion on Fourth Amendment interests is quite limited. The stop does intrude to a limited extent on motorists’ right to “free passage without interruption..” – United States v. Martinez-Fuerte, 428 US 543 – Supreme Court 1976

While the Supreme Court ignored the Constitution in regards to these checkpoints that does not mean we have to comply and certainly does not mean they can detain us without cause. In my option is was tant amount to treason as they admitted that this was a violation bit allowed it anyways.

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety” – Benjamin Franklin.

Free nations don’t have arbitrary check points.

 

 

Comments

I cannot believe, that they told you you’re being detained because of the US Constitution. How ridiculous is that!!!!
The way the officials acted PROVES 100% that they KNOW that these checkpoints are unlawful. Period. Because, if the reverse was true, he would have been FORCED to stop, even if guns were needed.
I liked how you were talking to the camera, explaining the situation before ever saying a word to the border agents. Making sure they knew they were being videoed, and that they heard that you knew this checkpoint was constitutionally illegal. 👍🇺🇸 outstanding
Wow. I’m an Arizona resident and have been through many of these. Things have changed a LOT in 8 years and I commend auditors like you who have the guts to exercise your rights. Thank you. I’ll admit that I don’t have the willingness to do what you do, but people like you help the US not slide too fast (it’s inevitable that it is coming) into a police state.
You got lucky man.. I 100% agree what you’re doing and I thank you for standing up. But they are cracking down on stuff like this.. my father and I spent a week in jail and thousands of dollars for doing the same thing (exercising our rights).
Every time law enforcement realize they are not in control… Their heads literally explode.
Thank You! You have no idea how helpful and informative your videos are to ppl who are unaware of our constitutional rights such as myself so i Thank You for broadening my knowledge on these sad but true facts we are currently now living through in this corrupt “justice” system! I wish i would have recorded a few months ago i was tazzed for no reason at all but if i had the knowledge i now have of my rights thanks to your videos i would have been able to take matter into my own hands in a very different way and that officer would have payed for his violent act on me for using exessive force for no reason. Ga police is beyond RASISCT and CORRUPT!
the look on that border agent’s face as soon as the driver started talking haha
As a black man….I’d be scared as hell to try this.
Just to let you know, you do NOT have to tell them you’re even a US citizen. I am not a US Citizen but am legally in the US on a green card, I’d never let them hassle me like that. Not without probable cause, which is not driving on the road.
They ran his license plate to find if he is not on the homeland security list. When you buy or lease a new vehicle the dealerships have to report it to homeland security and check with them to see if you are allowed to purchase the vehicle.
I commend you for doing this. My children are TERRIFIED of law enforcement, and my pregnant girlfriend, was (just this week) arrested on a clerical error, on our sheriff departments’ side.
They ran your plates .. they knew you were an American, I don’t think DHS is as egregious as PD’s .. everyone who is tasked with dealing with ‘criminals’ or ‘illegals’ or whatever, is trained to be ready for action and belligerent attitudes trigger hostile reactions … I completely agree with auditing, and impolite and belligerent police deserve to be punished just like the people they impose their over reaching behavior on would be punished .. cops are not above the law, in fact, they should be held to a higher standard .. the days of cops beating people just because they are a-holes is fast fading … But picking a fight with DHS is dumb, the agent who said you were being detained because of the Constitution was obviously thinking as a DHS (immigration) agent, not a local cop , they aren’t local cops or state troopers, and they’re trying to deal with a problem that is way out of hand .. so I think your video in this case was you being stupid, and I’d rather have that agent have my 6 than some armchair protester who’s just trying to be a sensationalist and make a couple of bucks on YouTube, without any real analysis… or concern for anything except their ‘mantra’… go after the dirty cops and leave DHS and INS alone unless they are dirty too… they are trying to interdict problems, not bully you.. as soon as they ran your plates they let you go, they don’t want to deal with your juvenile attitude..
Btw, I don’t think you were being “pushy” at all in this one. The problem lies in the fact that those ‘enforcers’ are so used to imposing bullying tactics upon people and getting away with it that it has become acceptable in their eyes, as well as the general population who encounter them.
I believe you were subjected to a search that you were unaware of. These days there are technological means of searching your vehicle without the need for you to leave it. So your rights may have been violated unknowingly.
Interesting read from an interior border check point wiki: Constitutionality Internal checkpoints have also been criticized for violating the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution which prohibits “unreasonable searches and seizures”, although The United States v. Martinez-Fuerte has affirmed their constitutionality. The U.S. Border Patrol has stated: “Although motorists are not legally required to answer the questions ‘Are you a U.S. citizen, and where are you headed?’ they will not be allowed to proceed until the inspecting agent is satisfied that the occupants of vehicles traveling through the checkpoint are legally present in the U.S.”[17]
I live in Washington state, it’s shocking to see this (among other things) happening here, thank you for your work and efforts.
Coming back from Nevada I refused to let an idiot and angry border patrol guy board my #VanLife van. He told me they would detain me all day. I told the dude I wasn’t on a schedule, lol, and turned off the ignition. After 15 minutes, they told me they must board to see the contents of my refrigerator. I told them no, again. But I told them I would happily pull out both baskets contained on both sides of my fridge, and put it on the floor so they can see. They told me to do so, and as soon as I opened the top-loading fridge and pulled out the first basket, the guy told me to forget it and slammed my slider shut. Then he yelled through my open driver’s window to hurry up (putting the basket back in the fridge) or he would arrest me for trespassing. When I was done and got back up front and buckled up, he told me they called the State Troopers and I would be pulled over and arrested within the next few minutes. I told him I would just pull up, into the inspection area and wait for them and talk with them when they arrived. Then I told him I knew he did not call the State/Highway Patrol. Then he says “Just get the f*ck out of here, *sshole.” I let him know my DashCam had filmed all of this. I laughed at him, told him to be nicer to everyone, and to have a nice day. I did not get pulled over of course. #ScareTactics PS: You also don’t have to show any employee or security guard your receipt when leaving a store (WalMart, Costco). Just politely say “No, thank you.” and exit the store with your purchases.
So… seeing the kids in the back and not wanting to traumatize them, the BP simply ran your plate, Identified you against the DL photo of the cars registered owner.  Confirmed you were at such and such check point at such and such time with their video camera. Confirmed you’re a citizen, then let you go. Not sure what you think you accomplished, they got everything they were looking for.       Now what I’d like to know is, are you now on a no fly list? BTW Random border check points are allowed 100 miles from the border.   
I’ve never lived in the US, but I can piece together that the border agency has the authority to establish inland check points and detain people until they establish the person’s citizenship. However, the person does not have a duty to answer questions about their citizenship. The irony is not lost on me, that this whole check point process is designed to lead to a Mexican standoff.
In Canada they’re allowed to go against the Charter according to the supreme court as long as they follow a set of rules. So unfortunately on my end I have to comply and show them my information for NO REASON. To actually be allowed to breach the Charter makes no sense to me. I hardly ever see them where I live at least luckily.
I see what your getting at but that going at your own pace at the end just wasn’t necessary man. You had got your point across, got out of there without answering questions and made them look like idiots so to go at a crawl at the end just pisses people off even someone like me who can’t stand authority or police, that last little bit was a dick move. You would get alot more support if you didn’t try make every stop an argument. You start off fine then if your not getting the reaction you want you start acting like a child. I realise views = $ but if you do these things with a bit more tact and class you could actually really achieve something very positive and powerful!
These guys are just following orders, if they where a family of color they would of pulled them over. You’re not supposed to racially profile but they do it. And yes if the tires are flatten, he will pay for them thru taxes he’s putting in anyways. I’ve driven thru this check point 100s of times, These BP agents are actually nice guys. This guy is just an instigator. He proved nothing. Once these guys see you’re a regular , they tend to not bother with the question. I had a friend not answer once, they pulled him over and took plenty of time checking vehicle and back ground just to irritate him at another check point. Im sure they’re trained to look for certain “things” like accents, crappy vehicles, attitude etc.