The Phil Vischer Podcast, Episode 148: Jesus, Bread, and Chocolate with John Thompson!

The church has pursued an industrial strategy.

Small groups is a white person thing

Excellence is for boomers.  Millenials are interested in authenticity.

Microbrewing is a way to promote excellence by keeping things small.

Billy Graham studied the results of their stadium events and found 4% stuck with it (37 min)

Find a guy who is good with tools, make kayaks with city kids, donate to church camps