13:31
climate change is an education problem
13:33
mm-hmm okay the numbers tell E Barrett
13:35
out the percentage of people with PhDs
13:37
who don’t believe climate change is real
13:40
is trivial the percent if you have
13:41
master’s degrees is maybe a little
13:43
higher but right if if you double the
13:46
percentage of Americans with a college
13:48
degree there’d be no problem of climate
13:50
change denial in this country and then
13:52
what that would mean is the world would
13:55
not would have a would actually have a
13:57
shot at maybe addressing it in a way
13:59
that right now looks unlikely a lot of
14:02
our problems are education problems in
14:04
disguise
14:05
because the ability to believe in fake
14:08
things is essential to upholding the
14:12
kind of system that we have otherwise
14:14
how do you explain in a democracy a
14:17
system that doesn’t work for most people
14:18
it makes no sense well people have to be
14:22
persuaded to believe in things that are
14:24
not real the democracies become a
14:26
plutonomy where the power of that vote
14:29
is diminished and the more you can
14:31
manipulate people as you just described
14:33
the more power the money has relative to
14:37
the individual and I’ve been trying to
14:38
help people see the connections between
14:40
each of these stories you know I was
14:42
just saying today you know we have a
14:44
story in the news of Michael Bloomberg
14:46
giving 1.8 billion to John Hopkins very
14:48
nice gift but why does he have that
14:50
money why is that happening that way
14:52
then you got a couple days before this
14:55
bombshell story on Facebook and how it
14:59
totally looked the other way as the
15:01
Russians were waging cyber war on this
15:03
country to basically protect itself from
15:05
government scrutiny then you got the
15:07
story of Amazon running a The Bachelor
15:09
contest on American cities getting you
15:12
know a tax break for the world’s richest
15:14
man you know then you go back and we
15:16
just have the 10-year anniversary of the
15:18
financial crisis and basically now 10
15:20
years later it turns out the only people
15:22
who are fully recovered from it other
15:24
people who caused that and on and on and
15:27
on and on these are all connected and I
15:30
think we are not who we think
15:33
we are in this country and we are living
15:36
in an America that is the opposite of
15:38
our self-image if you ask if you stop at
15:41
any red state blue state small town big
15:44
city farmstand and you say what are your
15:48
kind of central ideas of what this
15:49
country is about one of things that come
15:51
up very fast in my experience is
15:53
American dream like whatever effort you
15:55
put in that’s where you end up this is
16:00
actually leat less true in America than
16:03
in any other rich country the thing we
16:05
think is our thing is like the opposite
16:08
of our thing ours is actually the most
16:10
cast we are the kind of most cast
16:13
Society among the rich countries and by
16:18
the way the reduction of funding for our
16:22
public universities like University of
16:25
Michigan where you went to school where
16:27
I grew up around or Cal Berkeley they’ve
16:32
ceased to be vehicles of upward mobility
16:34
and according to Raj Chetty study with a
16:37
number of colleagues the University of
16:41
Michigan now has more people from the
16:42
top one percent then from the bottom
16:45
sixty combined as undergraduates and
16:48
that’s 40,000 students that’s not some
16:50
boutique College picking off trust fund
16:52
kids that’s how they got to sustain
16:54
themselves out of the hole like you said
16:57
the mask is like all occluding our
17:02
vision of what’s really happening you
17:04
know sometimes you can have like a very
17:06
bad disease that remains invisible in
17:11
your body right there’s cancers that you
17:13
people have for years without realizing
17:15
they have cancer and then and then it’s
17:18
too late I think we’ve had a cancer for
17:20
a while in terms of the veneration of
17:23
wealth thinking that people are smart
17:25
just because they’re rich thinking they
17:26
know what our school should be like just
17:27
because they made money in hedge funds
17:29
thinking that they you know have insight
17:31
into how we should fight diseases just
17:33
because you know they made a soft drink
17:34
company and cause diseases and that
17:39
cancer has been in our society for a
17:42
while and it was pretty much undetected
17:44
people weren’t critiquing these things
17:46
Mark Zuckerberg a few years ago
17:48
announced I’m giving 99% of my wealth
17:50
away I mean every newspaper story was
17:52
this like puffy like gauzy philanthropy
17:56
thing I think Trump is the moment where
18:00
we realize we have cancer and I
18:04
appreciate him for that I appreciate the
18:07
way in which he is flamboyantly made
18:10
visible many of the ugliest tendencies
18:14
of our society he is the incarnation of
18:18
so much of what is bad in a culture that
18:22
Revere’s money and he has tased Rama
18:26
ties so many of the things I write about
18:28
in this book the the notion that the
18:31
people who caused our problems are best
18:32
equipped to solve them somehow
18:34
the notion that you can kind of seek to
18:37
enrich yourself and sort of fight for
18:38
the common man at the same time when
18:40
when the notion that you can you know be
18:46
that just because you’re a
18:47
businessperson you have like you know
18:49
these special skills to solve any other
18:51
problem that have nothing to do with
18:53
your lane well I think the the
18:57
sensibility you know we talk about new
18:59
economic thinking like it’s this model
19:02
versus that model or whatever but you’re
19:05
penetrating to a different level which
19:09
is what I would call the emotional
19:11
contours of who you want to be and who
19:14
you allow to be the judging jury of the
19:18
meaning of your existence and by
19:20
understanding the context in which ideas
19:23
are formed and how they William are
19:26
called resonate with value it challenges
19:33
us all to think about governance
19:38
media what matters to us
19:42
you’re really you’re opening up a lot of
19:45
structures that people who just played
19:47
my model versus your model never
19:50
considered and I think that that to me
19:53
that’s a very beautiful contribution
19:56
that you’re making thank you
19:57
and will help us all go deeper Cornell
20:02
west the famous theologian and scholar
20:05
said to me one time we were on stage at
20:07
the Union Theological Seminary she said
20:09
Robert sometimes you know you don’t
20:12
understand what you have to do is get
20:15
quiet and go deeper until you can come
20:18
back yeah and I think the challenge that
20:20
you mission in this book for all of the
20:22
thinkers the intellectuals the scholars
20:25
were the people who think that they have
20:28
some kind of right to know a
20:31
paternalistic design architecture for
20:34
society I think you’re shaking us all up
20:37
and I and I’m grateful to you for you
20:39
thank you so much
Joe Rogan: Our Media is in an Adolescent Stage
45:21
that’s why I think it’s good like what
you do in terms of coversation is like you
basically say you know I’m gonna do long
form because that you know feels like at
least from my perspective the healthiest
form
yeah it’s conversation but is even in
that case people will take long-form
edit things out of context and then it
becomes the same problem that we have on
Twitter and with everything else you get
these little sound bites so there’s
little video clips and you don’t
understand the full context of the
conversation or what was actually said
and then people get outraged at that
it’s you know it’s we are living in a
very strange time and I believe it’s an
adolescent stage of communication and I
think it’s going to give our
frustrations for this are going to give
birth to a better full
and I think one of the things that
podcasts what it’s in response to the
popularity of the long-form is in
response to people being upset with like
these traditional late-night talk show
things where there’s a window here with
one guy on the right and a window here
with a guy on the left and there’s a
person in the center and they’re yelling
at each other and then you cut to
commercial and you don’t really feel
like things got resolved so the response
to that where people gravitate it’s
three is theater yeah I think he’s was
it hard for you you know when we came up
his comments it was also at that point
like it was sort of a gladiatorial
environment you know and I remember you
know the Boston scene you know was
always like that’s a tough scene yeah
he’d come up and it was kind of
gladiatorial and but you had that
audience and you develop kind of that
thick skin is it hard to then make that
switch in your mind to this different
form that’s so much more considered so
much less about conquering the stage
yeah it is about being open and is that
47:15
something that for you what was the
47:19
switch for you from those two forms
47:22
because that’s and that’s an interesting
47:23
switch well in the beginning there
47:26
wasn’t very good switch you know it’s
47:28
like one of the reasons why the early
47:29
episode sucked it’s like I didn’t know
47:31
what I was doing and I didn’t think
47:32
anybody was listening it was just for
47:34
fun and there was a lot of just hanging
47:36
out with comics and just doing what
47:37
comics do if we were at a diner
47:39
somewhere just talking shit and making
47:41
each other laugh but we were doing it
47:43
and videotaping it and then along the
47:45
way I started interviewing actual
47:47
interesting people and talking to them
47:49
and having conversations and not you
47:51
know I don’t you know I there’s a place
47:53
for comedy and then I don’t I make a
47:56
really big point in never trying to
47:59
force comedy into places where it
48:01
doesn’t belong that’s I do that also
48:04
with the UFC when I do commentary I’m
48:05
never funny there’s no reason to be it’s
48:07
not what my job is you know and then
48:09
when I’m doing a conversation with
48:11
someone I just try to talk I don’t try
48:14
to be a comic I don’t try I just I’m a
48:16
human I want I want to know what they’re
48:18
talking about and I want to I want to
48:20
get them to expand upon their
48:22
ideas as best they can and I want to be
48:24
engaged that’s what I’m trying to do so
48:27
it wasn’t that it wasn’t that was a big
48:30
Media Deception: Covid-19 Clickbait: Read the Whole Thing (Joe Rogan)
that have like their here’s a deceptive
01:53
one that i’ve read it was really fucked
01:55
up they were talking about this kid who
01:56
was I think he was 17 who died from
01:59
kovat and they said he was and they were
02:03
said he was healthy no under no other
02:05
health issues they said but then we read
02:09
the article deeper it turns out he had
02:10
diabetes he had
02:13
type one diabetes and he was 400 pounds
02:15
and it’s like wait a minute
02:17
the that’s not no issues these articles
02:21
are full of shit and they write those
02:23
articles just so that you click on them
02:24
because they get the the fucking ad
02:27
revenue from clicks and so they’re
02:29
incentivized to trick you into being
02:31
scared they’re like oh my god a 17 year
02:33
old died what happened my 17 year old
02:35
can die
02:36
holy fuck and then you click on it and
02:38
if you don’t read you know six seven
02:40
paragraphs into the article you don’t
02:42
find out that this was a 400-pound
02:44
diabetic kid that you know that’s what
02:48
have died from the flu three months
02:49
earlier it would have been the same shit
02:51
yeah yeah you know so the numbers are
02:53
fudged so I don’t want to believe your
02:55
numbers don’t come to me with more scare
02:57
tactics about like the numbers are
02:58
spiking well you already said that 50%
03:00
of the positives are false positives
03:02
well at least finally they’re saying
03:04
when they’re said the numbers are
03:06
spiking I haven’t heard the 50% fault
03:08
video there was the the chick that is
03:11
ill with Falchi the other one she was
03:14
saying 50% yeah I don’t know how old the
03:16
video was with it our testing is we’re
03:18
coming up and if you have one percent of
03:21
whatever and we test it and 50 you know
03:23
about half of the positives or false
03:25
positive Jesus and then I don’t wear a
03:28
mask
03:29
and you have to wear masks they said the
03:31
whole reason we have to flatten the
03:32
curve is because you can live on
03:34
anything for up to like nine days and
03:36
even an asymptomatic person can still
03:39
transmit it then it comes out they say
03:41
the exact opposite yeah now they’re
03:43
saying asymptomatic people very very
03:45
rarely twelve-minute I don’t choose to
03:46
believe that Joe I’m gonna relieve what
03:50
they told me the first time not gonna do
03:51
it not the new facts that they have now
03:54
so we’re still gonna wear masks all the
03:55
time yeah people get mad at you if you
03:58
suggest differently there’s a lot of
04:00
people that like being scared too and
04:02
you’re like fuck you love it we’re your
04:03
goddamn masks we need to protect people
04:06
love it but meanwhile snow policed who’s
04:08
gonna protect you and you who’s gonna
04:10
protect your family me meanwhile there
04:13
was no be these people weren’t freaking
04:14
out when you’ve seen these mass protests
04:16
and the spikes guess what happened right
04:19
after the protest and at least they’re
04:21
saying that now at least they’re saying
04:23
they’re being forced into saying is
04:25
probably connected
04:27
the protests well of course it’s just
04:30
one way to get attacked to get people to
04:31
skate let’s scare them to stop revolting
04:34
let’s give them let’s get them chill out
04:36
you got you know now the numbers are
04:38
spiking guys do you think it’s that
04:39
calculated that that’s what they’re
04:41
doing I think there’s a lot of
04:42
calculated shit going on
04:43
there’s too many weird things going on
04:44
I’m like who’s calculating I’m though I
04:46
think that it’s dr. evil I think it is I
04:50
think that they’re in like their thing
04:51
and next we’re gonna launch the sharks
04:54
with laser beams on their head what
04:56
happened to murder Hornets they came and
04:57
went real quick I was really worried
04:59
about them aliens bro fuck I put it out
05:01
there and you come well ends are coming
05:04
before before the election Dave’s like
05:06
listen man I got to do something I got
05:09
to figure this out it’s all been
05:10
approved by the governor everybody’s you
05:12
know distanced six feet apart they all
05:15
maintain social distancing during the
05:17
show they wear masks during the show how
05:19
long what’s this how long are we to keep
05:21
doing this Texas governor is people to
05:24
stay home states report surges of nuke
05:26
ovid 19 cases yeah you want to see the
05:29
photo of the Austin protests you’ve seen
05:32
it it’s crazy
05:33
you know Austin which is the most
05:35
progressive city in Texas had this
05:37
insane protest which listen I think is
05:40
great I do I think it’s great that
05:42
people want to show solidarity that
05:44
people want to to get out there and and
05:47
let everybody know that they’re they’re
05:49
not down with police brutality and that
05:52
they’re there they’re down with racial
05:54
equality and that you got all these
05:56
thousands and thousands of people
05:58
together to have the same positive
06:00
message I love it however that Co vid
06:04
doesn’t give a fuck about racial
06:07
equality or social justice if you’re if
06:10
you’re not healthy it’s gonna get you I
06:12
don’t know and the case is spike but the
06:15
other thing about Texas is a giant
06:17
percentage of it I think somewhere in
06:19
the neighborhood at 50% is actually in
06:20
prisons so when they’re talking about
06:22
statewide issues did you have an image
06:25
so I can get an image for you I got a
06:28
good one for you oh that’s a good one
06:29
yeah that’ll cause problem
06:32
look at his fucking people but one thing
06:36
they have found out if you guys if you
06:38
guys are gonna protest protest during
06:39
the day and this is why there’s been a
06:42
new study that came out that said that
06:43
kovat 19 dies almost instantly in
06:47
contact with sunlight
06:48
no Trump’s say that like two months ago
06:50
and everyone said he was crazy no he was
06:53
saying like put lights to the body no he
06:55
said when the summer comes that he knows
06:58
it but it’s not but it’s not the heat
06:59
it’s actually light so the nighttime is
07:04
just as dangerous in the summer it is as
07:06
it is during the day it’s not heat it’s
07:08
not a temperature issue I’m sure some
07:09
temperature kills it Joe this thing is
07:11
not real bro this is not real it’s not
07:15
really a joint it is the fucking flu
07:17
yeah let’s do it dude it’s not real you
07:21
don’t think it’s real I think that the
07:22
flu is real I think that people get sick
07:25
from the flu every year and die I think
07:26
that it’s a it’s a bad thing I don’t
07:29
think that all of this nonsense is going
07:31
on and they keep keep perpetuating it
07:34
and keep perpetuating keep perpetuating
07:35
it come on I just not buying anything I
07:40
just you guys you change your views and
07:43
change your opinions it’s like it’s like
07:45
if you were the writer of a TV show say
07:47
friends your job would be to write a 30
07:50
minute episode that was funny and
07:53
intriguing and dramatic and fucking
07:56
scary or whatever the fuck
07:58
and like the the media just writes an
08:00
episode and then the next day they like
08:02
write a new episode and write a new
08:03
episode and like change their shit I
08:05
understand
08:06
such bullshit I understand what you
08:08
saying I’m gonna give you a different
08:09
perspective okay this is the different
08:11
perspective the different perspective is
08:13
legit biologists have analyzed the
08:16
actual virus itself and they find all
08:18
sorts of problems with this virus I had
08:20
Brett Weinstein on the podcast the other
08:21
day he’s a professor a legit biologist
08:24
and he was discussing all of the
08:27
indicators in the virus that seemed to
08:30
point to the fact that this has probably
08:31
been leaked from a lab and explained it
08:34
in terms of the way viruses evolve I’m
08:36
gonna do a terrible job of paraphrasing
08:38
it because I’m a moron and he’s
08:39
brilliant but when he said in the long
08:42
run what he’s basically saying is this
08:44
is a very legit virus
08:46
it’s very complicated because of the
08:48
fact that it’s been fucked with because
08:50
this is not a virus like you know like a
08:53
regular cold or like anything else that
08:55
we’ve encountered before this is
08:57
something that’s really complicated and
08:59
may have evolved because it came from a
09:02
lab his perspective is it may have
09:04
evolved to transmit better indoors and
09:08
it’s very vulnerable to UV light which
09:10
also might be part of you know it being
09:14
from a lab and not something that
09:15
existed in the wild that actually just
09:17
jumped from a bat to a Pangolin to a
09:20
person or what have you so legit
09:23
scientists and biologists who are not a
09:25
part of the narrative they’re not
09:27
working for any government agency
09:28
they’re not a part of the news media
09:30
that’s trying to transmit propaganda
09:33
they are concerned with it and they’re
09:35
concerned with it for very specific
09:37
scientific reasons now me as a person
09:40
who doesn’t know what the fuck any of
09:41
that stuff I just said means really I
09:43
just repeat it
09:44
it sounds like I’m smart but they the
09:47
the smart people actually are worried
09:50
about it for very specific reasons that
09:51
he could explain to you now it’s not
09:53
vulnerable for a lot of people they’re
09:56
not gonna be vulnerable like pro
09:57
athletes we were talking about those NBA
09:59
players to get it listen those are top
10:01
of the food chain stud athletes they
10:04
shake it off they’re not experiencing
10:06
any symptoms you know over and over and
10:08
over again there’s a lot of people that
10:10
get injured selber shook it off there’s
10:11
a lot of people that get it shake it off
10:13
they barely get it they barely even know
10:14
they have it
10:15
but they’re really robust healthy people
10:19
the concern is people that aren’t old
10:22
people
10:23
people that are vulnerable when they get
10:24
it man they get it bad and I was reading
10:26
an article today about a woman who’s
10:28
been sick with kovat for a hundred days
10:29
now and she still has days she has like
10:32
these horrible flu-like symptoms and she
10:34
gets real wheezy but I think she has
10:36
multiple sclerosis and she’s got some
10:38
other underlying health conditions so
10:40
those people have to really be worried
10:42
about this because it’s not predictable
10:44
and they don’t know how to treat it
10:45
totally especially in the beginning
10:47
turned out when they put people on
10:50
ventilators my buddy Michael yo got it
10:51
and he got it early on and his doctor
10:54
told him if I put you on a ventilator
10:55
you’re probably gonna die because your
10:57
body’s gonna stop breathing for itself
10:59
it’s good to let
11:00
but the ventilator do all the work the
11:02
ventilator like 90% of people put on
11:05
ventilators I think or 80 80 per side
11:08
for anything ever died is that true I
11:12
don’t know that’s what I said
11:13
80 to 80 percent so when the question is
11:16
almost like we need 40,000 ventilators
11:18
because we’re who are you saving when
11:20
80% of those people are gonna die
11:21
the thing is though like I think the
11:23
ventilator one way you could look at it
11:25
the ventilator is such a last-ditch
11:27
effort that by the time you get that
11:29
what is that was it
11:30
ice-cold why is it school delicious what
11:32
happy for you much what a good man he
11:34
brings his own beer you fucking study
11:36
with all kinds of um I brought you some
11:39
ignite stuff too Oh Danson found out the
11:42
Dan Bilzerian tell me he’s writing a
11:46
book yeah I think he did write his book
11:50
yeah that one’s for Marshall my dog’s
11:54
been using it too it’s really good stuff
11:57
you know Dan everything’s the best he’s
12:03
he’s jumped balls deep into weed and CBD
12:06
yeah right look at that dog CBD it even
12:09
says it on there I fucked up with CBD MD
12:12
and I took some of their dogs CBD was
12:14
delicious peanut butter flavor
12:15
I think it’s final I’m sure why not CBD
12:19
but they make it flavors for dogs what’s
12:23
up cool ass more shit what is the RAM
12:35
said I think it’s a goat head I asked
12:39
him once about and I care member what
12:41
the answer was I think it’s always been
12:42
like his thing that’s that’s like Satan
12:45
right what is the one the the devil that
12:48
has the goat head is it Beelzebub sounds
12:52
good it sounds like they’ll be correct
12:57
Thank You Satan no what is it
13:00
which one
13:03
you gotta be careful you know you get
13:06
people so high that they get super
13:08
paranoid and they look down that goat
13:09
head Baphomet
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Oh Baphomet that’s right I’ve seen him
13:12
on things before that’s like something
13:14
Duncan would know a lot about come on
13:18
man hey Dan why is that guy on the cover
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your fucking partner where’s that goat
13:24
dude with with eagle-wing go dude oh
13:27
look guys creepies fuck with his
13:28
pentagram on his head houston I see you
13:34
capacity could soon be exceeded as kovat
13:37
19 hospital agents worsen command and
13:39
all the videos come out and it’s like
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people and going to the hospitals and
13:44
there’s no lines that they’re trying to
13:46
make it out to be you know there’s a lot
13:47
of there’s a lot of fuckery going on
13:49
with this misinformation and that’s
13:52
there’s a little bit of the newest of
13:54
the newer but there’s also real shit
13:56
going on okay dr. Peter Hotez he’s been
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on the podcast before National School of
14:00
Tropical Medicine diseases Tropical
14:03
Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine
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he’s a brilliant guy yeah it says the
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city of Houston which is known for its
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medical schools has a large
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concentration of beds and research
14:13
hospitals and whatnot and they’re very
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close to running out of all of their ICU
14:16
beds he said he called on the state to
14:18
reimpose more aggressive social
14:20
distancing restrictions so he’s not a
14:22
he’s not a foolish person if he’s saying
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this he’s a legit scientist and a doctor
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and he knows a tremendous amount about
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diseases I met him many many years ago
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